Gay rabble-rouser Peter Tatchell’s calling for Iris Robinson’s head.
Robinson, a politician from Northern Ireland, gained international notoriety this month when she suggested gay people can be “cured,” called us sinners and then later compared sodomy and child abuse, a charge she denied.
Speaking last night at an Amnesty International event, Tatchell insisted that Robinson must resign – he also pointed out that had she targeted another group, she would be out already:
Tatchell said she would have been forced from office if she made similar comments about other minorities.
“People would have said that such comments are totally unacceptable,” he said. “The fact that many are making excuses for people, saying that her conscience or religion gives her an excuse for making these remarks, I find unconscionable.”
Of course, not everyone’s making excuses for Robinson. Some of her colleagues, in fact, are wondering if she’s gone mental.
How about we take this to the next level?
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Bill Perdue
Sinn Féin, the all Ireland pro-independence socialist leaning party has long led the fight to defend the Irish in the English occupied northern part of Ireland.
They’ve been so successful at that the DUP, Robinson’s pro-Brit colonialist party are losing the battle to continue their apartheid practices against Irish. The DUPs been looking around for someone else to hate and retargeted their compulsive bigotry on the GLBT communities. Sinn Féin has now become the leading party defending GLBT rights and not just in the occupied part of Ireland.
Robinson, Ian Paisley and all the leaders of the DU have deep roots in rightwing, conservative and fascist politics and if caught, they ought to be prosecuted for fomenting hate crimes.
tallskin
You are such a fucking arsehole purdue – the fucking IRA (the violent wing of sin feign) used to take out gays and shoot them in the legs for the sin of homosexuality – blow off their kneecaps. And did so until about 15 years or so ago and they only stopped when they realised that this might alienate the left of the western world and peace talks with the “nefarious” brits might actually lead to peace.
Sin Feign is heavily implicated in drug dealing, gang warfare and other vile and violent activities, which you don’t mention in your rose tinted view of Oirish affairs.
What is your solution for the protestant majority of northern ireland? tell them all to leave and piss off back to scotland? (you are so fucking ignorant you probably didn’t even know that the prods originally came from scotland)
But what can we expect of a wanker like you who promotes that shithole cuba as a glorious example of utopia – an island that used to until very recently, put gays into camps for re-education and lock up HIV sufferers in gulags.
Personally I don’t think you have any right to come onto a gay website and promote anti-gay fascism whether it be in ireland or cuba.
B Nesbitt
Bill Perdue, you appear to be, well…. Wrong
That’s some rather misinformed sectarian views you have there, Sinn Féin as a pro-LGBT party… well I can assure you they aren’t!
I don’t know if due to ignorance you have gotten confused between the DUP and BNP, but I can assure you that the party doesn’t seek out groups of people to hate, why would they, there supporters would abandon them, members of the DUP and Sinn Féin have spoken out against Mr’s Robinson’s Outbursts.
Neither Party are particularly good at defending LGBT rights, the sad truth is it is accepted by society, when other hatred is no longer.
“English occupied northern part of Ireland.” well there is a (semi-correct) blast from the past, I am referring to The ROI’s standpoint on NI from some years ago, hmmm… Maybe you should look at the roots of Sinn Féin, the IRA. They are terrorists, not defending but bombing! Sinn Féin is not what it used to be, it is now a political party, although I’m certain links between many parties and Paramilitaries do exist. Whatever your opinion on Sinn Féin, they are now a political party in direct competition with the DUP for power, obviously they will speak out against homophobia at this time!! Words mean very little!
FYI Ian Paisley is not the leader of the DU, or even the DUP
“Sinn Féin, the all Ireland pro-independence socialist leaning party has long led the fight to defend the Irish in the English occupied northern part of Ireland.” Sorry but that made me laugh, it’s illustrates how terribly ignorant you are, plus NI has had enough Fights! I’m sure we all have!!!
“They’ve been so successful at that the DUP, Robinson’s pro-Brit colonialist party are losing the battle to continue their apartheid practices against Irish” Maybe you should look up ‘big’ words before you use them, apartheid against Irish, ok, that display of total ignorance just makes me wonder how well you know NI, possibly how often you watch the news, and also how you came to hold such misguided views.
I could quote all of what you said, just for sh*ts and giggles, but I wont.
After all this very dramatic talk about Fights of the people, I feel the urge to say make love not war, but I think it will fall on deaf ears.
Not Quite sure what your Agenda is, but it certainly extends far beyond the gay one!
tallskin
Well put Mr Nesbitt.
Bill Perdue
Tallskin, aren’t you the racist vermin who thinks that GLBT Iranians who apply for asylum in England are lying and should be deported. Your kind of racist swine have nothing of value to say. You’re incapable of telling the truth.
You’re lying, Nesbitt. The Paisleys, big Ian, his superstition driven wife and their spawn, little Ian have led the DUP for years until they were recently booted after being exposed as corrupt (read understatement of the century). The English wanted them out because the Paisleys led the depraved push to impose apartheid on the Irish. They lost in spite of the murderous rampage of the English military and unionist (colonialist) goons in events like Bloody Sunday when the Parachute Regiment ambushed and murdered 26 Irish civilians.
Sinn Féin opposes the bigoted DUP swine who promote hate crimes against GLBT folk just as they opposed the bigoted DUP swine who used ethnic cleansing violence to impose apartheid conditions on the Irish. Their politics are consistently anti-bigot, the DUP’s policies are consistently bigoted. That’s the difference.
Now we know what your agenda is, Nesbitt, it’s to be an apologist for the DUP, and for Tory and BNP racism and reaction. If you look up Desmond Tutu’s definition of apartheid against Africans and Palestinians you’ll see it applies to occupied Ireland and has these defining features: state sponsored violence and intimidation of a huge scale utilizing lynch mobs and death squads, exclusion from good paying jobs and forced ghettoization. Even dunces can see that.
The violence is ALL on your side, Nesbitt, historically and currently.
Anyone interested can see for themselves by looking at looking at Sinn Féin’s online newspaper at www anphoblacht com.
B Nesbitt
My side?? hmm… ok
Please don’t call me a liar dear, you don’t know me. 🙂
I do not support the DUP or Sinn Féin, and I have signed petitions calling for Mrs Robinson to resign. I am also strongly opposed to The BNP… why would I support the BNP, I am gay and not racist. Idiot.
I grew up in a affluent “mixed” area of NI (and because of a family work move a poor area of the states), and I have worked with many different sections of society, including churches, as a youth worker and photographer. I was educated in the troubles in an unbiased environment. I am on neither side, so go on call me bias! 😛
I think your knowledge of NI and UK politics is questionable, and you misuse the BNP and apartheid to make up for it…
Bloody sunday? The day that started with IRA’s guerrilla warfare killing 14 British agents? yet the violence was one sided?? If you say so.
An Phoblacht is a biased text, I wouldn’t trust it, the same goes for any party lead, or following, propaganda.
An “apologist for the DUP, and for Tory and BNP racism and reaction.” any more ands?
You know, that’s the first time anyone has ever called me that, I can assure you that there is no truth in it (pretty much the same for the rest of the crap you come out with), I suppose you are going to call me homophobic, sectarian, what about Islamophobic while your at it??
Again, pro gay Sinn Féin?? Haha, I can assure you they are not!
Bill Perdue
It’s awful that you’re offended to find that people want to see Ireland reunified and the Brits gone. You need to get used to it.
The Irish have been offended by the long and bloody history of English depredations of their land. Just as the Chinese were offended by the Opium wars. And just as Africans and Indians were offended by English mass murder, slave traders and economic vampirism. Just like GLBT folks everywhere are offended by English anglocatholic and protestant bigots and the legacy of bigotry that always accompanied the arrival of slave traders, businessmen and the English army and navy.
The simple truth is that no one who’s English or who owes allegiance to England has any right to be in Ireland without a proper visa. That includes those who’ve been there for a few weeks or a few centuries. I’m sure that when the time comes, as it did for French colonists in Algeria and English loyalists in the US, that Sinn Féin will magnanimously allow anyone who wants to be an Irish citizen stay, after all they’re no hardheaded racists like the colonists. However, they can be counted on, when the time comes, to firmly stamp out the Prot/Brit apartheid system. You need to get used to it.
If Irish freedom fighters killed English military spies they had a perfect right and a duty to do so. No part of Ireland is part of England. The English need to withdraw. You need to get used to it.
And if you continue to say that SF are not pro-GLBT then I’ll continue to call you a liar. You need to get used to it.
B Nesbitt
I am in no way offended by that, you do not know my opinion on NI’s current position in the UK, you know why? Because I didn’t tell you!
NI as we know it was only supposed to be temporary, but fact is, like it, or not, NI is in the UK, and you need to get used to that. So you don’t need a visa, we do have the right to hold 2 passports, British and Irish!
Fine, go ahead, if it makes you happy, but they are not pro-LGBT, It is in their best interests to appear pro-LGBT considering recent events. I don’t support either side, but because I am Northern Irish
I will however say that the “Irish freedom fighters” you refer to are known as terrorists the world over, and you need to get used to that. Few who (actually:P) live in NI would deny that!
Seriously you have now said that you approve the terrorism carried out by the IRA, they shot and drilled LGBT’s in the knee’s, but that’s all ok, is it?? Idiot.
Terrorists are terrorists, and the IRA are terrorists.
B Nesbitt
sorry cut that sentence short… “because I am Northern Irish”…. I can’t help but be aware of the issues involved, something that can only be achieved from living in the country.
Bill Perdue
I’ve been reading the Irish press for years and never heard any reference to that a program of kneecapping of gays by the IRA. If you have any proof from GLBT sources feel free to give us some links. If you don’t I’ll just keep calling you a liar. (Religious (superstitious English and colonist straight sources don’t count.)
Terrorists are terrorists, and the English miltary and the DUP death squads are terrorists. The IRA defended the Irish as best they could from foreign agression. Good for them. And the nationalists in Mayala, Kenya and the US Continental Army.
And don’t get to upset. You’re beginning to toss around insults like like tallskin the islamophobe or piggy the skinhead. England seems to have a big problem with racism, which includes islamophobia. It’s no doubt fueled by rage over the loss of empire and being a client state, but you’ll get used to it.
B Nesbitt
Sorry where are you from bill??
I actually know of this sort of violence through word of mouth of family members of those attacked, and a police officer at the time! Both sides were harsh on their young men. I feel no need to give any links, and I suspect that there is little reference to in the Irish or northern Irish press, these sort of things, especially at that time were not published. This sort of knowledge can come only from actually living in the country, and talking top people who lived through it on both sides, and you’re just going to have to get used to that.
I’m not saying it was an IRA policy, just that it happened, The UDA also attacked people for being gay.
I still can’t believe you support a terrorist organization. England does have a problem with racism, and islamophobia, but racism exists everywhere, and it’s always a problem.
Bill Perdue
Nesbitt, we have urban legends here too. Two headed hybrid alien-human babies born out of wedlock. Bigfoot. Some people even think that the film The Exorcist was a documentary. A few people will believe anything but the rest of us want proof. You have no more credibility than the most recent report of abduction by a marauding mother ship, i.e., none at all.
On April 19, 1775, 700 English thugs masquerading as soldiers surrounded 70 American patriots who, reasonably, laid down their arms. The thugs opened fire, killing several. Other Massachusetts militiamen, after seeing some of their number murdered by lobsterbacks chased the Brits, tails between their legs, all the way back to Boston, cheerfully inflicting heavy causalities.
Terrorists? I don’t think so, even though we killed far more English soldiers in the Revolution and at New Orleans than the Irish.
Was Mandela’s African National Congress a terrorist group? The racists in SA said they were, but who believes scum like that? What about the Kenyan Mau Mau? Or the brave soldiers who defended India during the Rebellion of 1857: they happily killed lots of English soldiers and colonists? What about the Sioux at the Little Big Horn, who gave Custer what he had coming? Or the Chinese who resisted the English demand to flood China with opium? Were they terrorists or patriots? What about Tito’s Yugoslav guerilla army, and the other European anti-Nazi fighting groups? Terrorists? And would you say the Vietnamese National Liberation Front, the Algerian Jabhat al-Taḩrīr al-Waţanī, or Front de Libération Nationale or the Cuban Fidelistas are terrorists.
None of them were terrorists and neither was the IRA. The DUP death squads are terrorists and the English armed forces have a tawdry history of mass murder and terrorism in defense of colonialism. As I said before, it’s all one sided.
I won’t get into an argument with you about the levels of racism in the US vs. England because there are large numbers of racist swine in both countries. I will say that modern racism was invented by English slavers and colonists to justify their depredations on half the world, and that it still festers in the US.
The difference is that here open racists are liable to get kicked, punched and beaten for shooting off their mouths so the keep them shut in public. That’s why it would be personally disastrous for Tallskin or piggie to visit the US.
B Nesbitt
Actually as I have lived in the US and NI, I can say racism, in my personal experience, and my personal experience only, is worse in the US, for example noboby stepped up to beat the crap out of a white man who called a black man a “thilthy nigger” in the town I lived in! Not a sigle person. As for racism in NI, well I have two racist friends and, at least in my social spheres they are largely excluded for their views.
Where I lived in the US it was not the the place to be gay, or black, these minorities were truly marginalized, and again personally I feel much safer living in NI. Mrs Robinson’s views very were much more mainstream in the US.
I am not talking about bigfoot (lmao, good on you for throwing that BS in), I’m talking about my experience, talking to many people who lived through the troubles (on both sides), I am not claiming it to be fact… Perhaps if you lived in NI you might understand the true nature of the conflict better.
Your desperate digression into a large number of other unrelated conflicts in order to gain credibilty just doesn’t wash with me, fact is the IRA are a terrorist organisation that caried out many bombings in NI and the UK, they also called in hoaxes, effectively terrorising NI residents with fear. Idiot.
Not entirely sure who you are refering to by the “DUP death squads” perhaps you mean the UDA and other unionist paramilitary organisations. I do not doubt that the polical parties of the time had strong links with these illegal organisations. Sinn Féin IRA (as they were often refered too) is the best documented case of this. It is simply part of the history of the party, the early day involvement can not be doubted, it is history, the modern day connections and motives of Sinn Féin with the IRA are not so clear, however senior members of Sinn Féin have held posts in the IRA Army Council….
Superstition and bigotry on the part of some Unionsts would say the links are still strong. Perhaps it is better to say the superstion of some that are pro-union, because the term “unionist” is used locally to refer to those who are hardline, unwilling to comprimise, and generally working class living in poorer areas.
Again understanding the true nature of the conflict is hard, many in NI grow biased, they too cannot separate themselves, and look at the facts. I will also ask again where are you from?
Bill Perdue
“Mrs Robinson’s views very were much more mainstream in the US.” Not particularly true. Both the DUP-Paisleyite Orange Order presbyterians and the catholic cults, roman and anglican, are virulently antigay. Those European cults are the motherload of homophobia. In Ireland, at least in the Republic, it’s still capable of influencing public policy, i.e., same sex marriage is constitutionally prohibited, but it’s definitely on the wane.
In the English occupied north, and in England, homophobia is just as entrenched and the homophobic theocrats are getting bolder in response to Labour’s pro-GLBT agenda. The DUP, BNP and Conservatives embrace the theocrats because, like John Howards ‘Liberals’ in Australian and the Conservatives in Canada, they’re client parties of the Republicans in the US. Bush told them to and they obeyed.
I don’t have to live in English occupied Ireland to know that you were lying about an IRA military operation agaisnt gays. It didn’t happen and you were stupid to claim it did. And you were not being very bright when you denied Paisley’s role in the DUP.
I ddn’t have to live in South Africa or near a res in South Dakota or in Mississippi or Alabama to know that racist segregation and apartheid have to be eliminated. Is that why you want to know where I’m from? Because you’re a desperately insular English reactionary? That won’t work Nesbitt. The GLBT movements are international at their core. I have more in common with a gay man in France or a Lesbian in SA than I do with a straight man or woman in any country, including my own.
Don’t lie, Nesbitt. You know full well that here will be no violence if the apartheidist/DUP/Orange Order/unionist (read colonialist) political groups give up peacefully. They may have no choice because the English are beginning to get sick and tired of covering the backs of the compulsive haters in the colonialist communities. Large parts of the GLBT communities and others in England regard the occupied north as the English version of Mississippi, only greyer and colder. And the English are certainly tired of the financial drain imposed by competing with the Republic and propping up the huge welfare rolls caused by apartheid policies that impoverish against Irish workers and communities.
I asked you if the American rebels of 1775 were terrorists, or the Algerians, the Cubans, the Vietnamese, the Mau Mau or the SA ANC. They were all labeled terrorists by desperate reactionaries like yourself and I was inviting you to compare their freedom struggles and defense of their nations to the fight of the Irish. Your inept attempt to dismiss the question was the only answer we need.
It’s all one sided. The colonists paramilitary death squads and the English military, ’security’ and police forces are the only terrorists – they have a long and despicable history of terror against the Irish and GLBT folks. The IRA were not terrorists and you lied about a kneecapping operation.
B Nesbitt
Ok An anti gay “military operation” by the IRA?? who said anything about that?? I simply said that kneecappings occurred in NI, carried out by the UDA and IRA (ect), and I have heard accounts of honor style punishments against gay people in the organizations. At no point did I say “kneecapping operation,” check if you don’t believe me. Idiot. Not claiming that to be fact, not claiming that barefoot did it, draped in a tricolor, or anything equally bizarre (I unlike you don’t wish to digress, point made). It’s just something that came up during conversations with people who are more knowledgeable about NI.
Ok I’m not English, nor do I have English heritage! Another mistake by you, Just like saying I’m Pro DUP, Tory, and BNP. Makes total sense, me being gay and all (not racist, xenophobe, ect)! Well done for proving yourself to be a total idiot. I am actually offended by being called pro-BNP knowing a lovely girl who ended up a homeless migrant’s daughter in NI, I would have given my left arm to make her childhood happier. Whereas the BNP would advocate giving houses to any old scum, If they are white. (Watch the clip of “the bnp on sky news!â€)
Still not telling us where you’re from. Surprise.
Yes, I dismissed your irrelevant references to other countries, because I want to understand the extent of your warped view on NI, Sorry “English occupied Ireland,” Funny I have never heard it referred to as that. Hard to keep you on track, I think that you should give up the rants to try to gain credibility. The IRA are terrorists, and I notice you dismissed the IRA Sinn Féin links.
Therefore I did not lie about a “kneecapping operation,” you decided to twist my words and misrepresent them, which really does call into question your credibility. Idiot.
I had no Idea you are a spokesperson LGBT communities and others in England-
“for Large parts of the GLBT communities and others in England regard the occupied north as the English version of Mississippi, only greyer and colder.”
This is pathetic, do you think most people in England, or Ireland really care about NI, seriously I suspect the “LGBT community,” and “others,” (?) have better things to do! But then again you’re Mr Spokesperson!
You’re very silly, and hate filled, I hope you work out whatever has you so riled up. (:
Slà inte! (Irish (hehe, like me it aint English!) for good health :P)