Four reasons you’ve gotten over twincest (and started thinking it’s hot)
By Queerty Staff · 136 comments· Updated on September 1, 2023
Twincest is nothing new, defined as “incest between any set of multiple birth siblings” on good ol’ Urban Dictionary. But while human beings, straight or gay, have always found twins hot, actually seeing two brothers blow loads on each other’s faces, and then kiss, is something else entirely. Speaking of…remember Elijah and Milo Peters: aka the Bel Ami porn twins?
They were the hard-bodied Czechs who didn’t just have oral and bareback anal sex on camera. The brothers claimed to be real-life lovers. Apparently, the brothers started their physical relationship when they were just 15 years old. But a kinky, cuckoo rollercoaster ride of events, like their parents finding out (they weren’t pleased), rising to porn stardom, and their eventual retirement and creation of their own website (NSFW), lead to mainstream outlets like Salon covering the rise of twincest.
So what makes twincest not just increasingly less taboo, but also so hot? Here’s four freaky facts you’ll find fun:
We all know biology’s quirks prevent two human dudes from making a baby. So, when twin brothers decide to become a couple, we can happily toss out any worries about “kissing cousin” complications at birth – no missing fingers here! That age-old reason why brothers, sisters, or even cousins shouldn’t engage in romantic dalliances simply doesn’t apply when it’s two related men or women involved. It’s all a bit unconventional, but also refreshingly free from the “ewwww” factor.
3) The fucked-up love story
This aspect of the Peters’ relationship can either be seen as endearing or, well, a bit out there, depending on your perspective. But if you’ve read this far, chances are you might lean toward the former. Unlike some other twincest pairs, such as Jirka and Karol Bartok, who ventured into on-camera intimacy solely for financial reasons and then made a quick exit, Elijah and Milo, along with Bel Ami, maintain that they’re deeply committed to a loving relationship. They emphasize that when the cameras aren’t rolling, they don’t engage in intimate encounters with anyone else.
The adult entertainment industry has evolved, shifting from highly produced films to more amateur-style content featuring real, college-aged guys, many of them straight. The Peters Twins’ videos offer something different. Not just a simulated fantasy; but a documentary-style glimpse into their intimate moments. This invites viewers to join them in the bedroom, as if it were a natural part of their real lives. You little voyeur!
2) They’re hot
Let’s not kid ourselves here; when it comes to the Bel Ami twins, this isn’t your typical sibling encounter. What we have are two exceptionally well-built men, who are both very well-endowed, engaging in intimate activities. In our looks-focused society, this chat would shift if they were less conventionally attractive twins.
Remember the McPoyle’s from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia? Their bloodline’s been pure for a thousand years – but we don’t find them sexy. Still, remember, being attractive doesn’t erase the complexities in their unique relationship.
1) It’s so wrong, it’s right
Even if you own a collection of Bel Ami DVDs (no judgment here), openly admitting you’d get it on with your identical twin (even if you have one!) probably isn’t in your repertoire. We can chatter endlessly about the erotic allure of twin brothers entwined, but let’s face it, that’s some next-level mind-boggling stuff. And isn’t that what porn often is for many folks? An escape into the wildest fantasies. So wrong, it must be right!
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Lol, I’ll stick with being ok w 2nd cousins, possibly first cousins only b/c of there being no risk of having bio kids w problems but it stops there w my confort level.
Possible #5 – Since they’re the same age (plus or minus a few minutes), there’s not the same power issues inherent in, say, brothers with several years between them. Brothers who started sleeping together when they were both 15 is less squicky than brothers who started sleeping together when they were, say, 13 and 17.
OK I am going to have to hand in my gaycard – I do not find anything remotely ‘hot’ about the idea of twin brothers banging the brains out of each other. The idea that they claim to be lovers since 15 years old leaves me nauseous.
Personally, I find the idea of a ripped and buff father and (legal!) son, pair, getting it on extremely hot! :oP Seeing as how we;re pushing the envelope, and all…
I have a twin. And when potential dates learn about this, they always do the giggling, “So, um, wouldn’t it be hot if we “hung” out with him as well?” And let met tell you, unless you’re super-hot and I’m super into you, that question is annoying even before you open your mouth – and that’s because I know what you’re going to ask. Without exception.
Of course, I have an easy excuse that stops the ickfest cold: My brother’s straight.
That said, these two boys are gorgeous. And I’d totally watch them do it – but I couldn’t look at their faces. It’d just have to be a two headless twinks show.
For me, it’s better than recognizing that they’re actually twins – nevermind twins who are supposedly in love with each other.
I don’t know what’s more disturbing…that these guys are doing each other (their poor parents) or that many guys on this site don’t see a problem with it.
I might not personally think it so hot, but I’m not going to judge the love between two consenting people and their bedroom activities. I think a gay person would be the first to see the problems regarding others’ negative judgments when it comes to a foreign type of love and sex.
What disturbs me most in the comments on this and the salon article is that what disturbs some people is not the sex, but the fact that they truly deeply love each other.
If you can only enjoy your porn if there’s coercion involved, like the kind they make for straight men where, and to name just one example: getting off on the idea of forcing mothers to do it with their daughters, you’re more fucked up than any twincest, which is, as many people have pointed out, a relationship between equals. I prefer this kind over the kind of pseudo-lesbian twincest where a dude comes barging in because it’s not ‘real’ sex until there’s a dick representing.
Not that I’m going to watch these brothers, I don’t doubt that they love each other and that makes it reassuring and ‘better’ (I guess, morally) than a lot of mainstream porn, but it still smells of twinsploitation.
I wonder what the objection is about with these twin “lovers”. They’re hot, they’re consenting adults, they run no risk of creating genetically effed-up off spring, and they obviously have their choice of who they sex with.
No doubt theres a very valid taboo against incesst where theres the possibility of pregnancy or coercion. That doesnt apply here.
If you think it ‘s “disgusting” please explain why.
I personally worry about the guys being exploited by the porn industry or just doing it to play to the twin fetishists, but aside from those things, I can’t think of a reason they’re disgusting or immoral. Rape or forced sex acts aredisgusting & immoral to me. Unsafe sex is bad :& dangerous.
I wouldn’t want, personally to have sex with my twin if I had one because i sexually prefer guys who are opposite or different from me: taller, shorter, /hairier, less hairy/, more or less muscular, more rural or totally citified….. Etc.
So, for the folks who want to scream FOUL & NASTY please say your reasons why. Thanks !
the things about incestuous relationships is that they’re too close… What I mean is that the power and family dynamics that are present in every family will almost certainly screw up any incestuous relationship…
While I don’t think it’s wrong for same sex siblings, I think it’s harder, scarier, and more dangerous, and if I were a parent, I’d be very concerned, particularly for the younger/more naive sibling of the pair…
I have a brother, we aren’t twins. I’d totally bang him. Just to see what it’s like. I’ve always thought so, and it creeps me out a little, but I’d do it. He’s straight, never would, so it wont ever happen, but still, there it is.
Whoo-hoo, don’t know who’d have a bigger field day with this, like every single anti-homo group or Freud (with the biggest arguments on which brother is more oral/anal)
But seriously, why does that fact that the Peters are supposed to be “attractive” even play into the argument? Are “ugly” people immune to incest? Should the ugly twins be lynched if they dare decide mate together? From a psychological stand-point, it would make a bit more sense than this.
@Jeffrey: I wouldn’t say the union is disgusting or gross or nasty or anything like that; I’d say it’s more disturbing. The level of narcissism and crippling dependence it takes to literally fall in love with yourself is rather astonishing (in a “Flowers in the Attic” sort of way). It gives new meaning to the phrase “go f#ck yourself”, since each twin does.
@ 5 and 14 – I’m pretty sure I’d never have sex with any of my brothers, but if someone else wants to do it I don’t think it’s any of my business. I don’t like people judging my sexuality and in turn I give others the same regard.
They have amazing bodies. But their faces are highly questionable. And not in a normal ‘they’re not that hot for a porn star, but in real life it’d be different’-way, but in a I really really don’t think they’re attractive.
Those arguing their inability to do their brothers don’t have brothers who are perfect 10s below the neck! I’ve known these two since their VirtuaGay days and I must say they got the most downloads back then too. Smokin’ pair!!!
I’m a twin, and this makes me nauseated. They’re bothers and they claim to have been exclusive lovers since they were 15? And they don’t grasp why people think this is wrong. I have to “me too” several of the above posts. I’m not sure what’s worse, the fact they think it’s ok, or the fact so many here think incest (a criminal activity throughout the US) is ok.
Who am I, or any of you, to tell 2 consenting adults who they can or can’t have sex with and who they can or can’t love?
Sure its a bit creepy, but most straight people think we gays/lesbians are a bit creepy anyway. And within the gay and lesbian community, quite a few people think that Bisexuals and Transsexuals are creepy.
How about “Live and let live?”
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@No. 12 Cantstandthisbs
Ummm, if you Google sex fetishes, you will find that there are at least 10 times more fucked-up weird shit straight sex sites than gay sites. Those breeders are into some pretty fucked-up shit.
This is just sad beyond belief. Utterly tragic, actually. Please don’t perform your lusts under the gay rights banner. Your lusts have nothing to do with orientation but everything to do with fetish. You have a fetish for your mirror images.
Are they so desperate for money? They could get well-paying jobs as lifesavers.
i dont have a twin & if i did i’m sure i wouldnt want to do him, but i just keep hearing you all say its gross. no one is forcing them to do this. no children will get born. no one is being harmed. nobody is forced to watch them
if you dont like it ok then dont watch their vids.
okay, so we’ll give this about one election cycle before some Family Values candidate brings up “brother-love” in their campaign ads against their opponent for their support of LGBT issues.
all because some old guys in East Europe got two brothers in need of medication and therapy (and fatter bank accounts) to start doing it with each other (and make up their entire back story to boot) so they could buy another house in the Alps.
sometimes just because a few of the guys in the bar are into some pretty sick ideas, doesn’t mean the rest of us in the community have to get punished at the polls because of them.
what happens in the darkroom…sometimes should just stay back there.
I think I have it figured out. Lusting after someone who looks like you is pure narcissism. You are in love with yourself and want someone who looks like you.
On hook-up sites, how many times have have you seen people describe themselves physically, and end the description with the phrase “ub2.”
Twincest or being ok with it seems to be most extreme extension of that narcissism.
I could never watch this. The thought of it is unimaginable to me. BTW, most incestuous relationships are between fathers and daughters, and are emotionally destructive beyond belief. Incest is a taboo that exists for good reason and should be kept firmly in place.
I’m a twin who hasn’t ever had sex with my twin. I don’t want to, but I wouldn’t judge these guys. If they love each other, and I think they do in a way most of you would never get, I think its great. In fact, its awesome.
The reason incest has often been a taboo isn’t because of the possible genetic risks posed to the offspring, it has been instead been nature of the relationship and its effect on the family. If a father is having a sexual relationship with his daughter, then the mother is then put into competition for her husband’s affection with her daughter. It really screws things up. Among siblings it is bit different, but still generally the same, in particular if you have multiple siblings.
Nevertheless, the fact that these two can’t have children does change nature of it, I think we can be honest about that; however, it still is not something I think we should turn a blind eye to. Clearly, there is a well established view of what an appropriate sibling relationship should be like, and I think the fact that if we believe their story and they started this relationship when they were 15 (which maybe this is an assumption of my old-fashion thinking was their first relationship) would probably raise a flag for many psychiatrists.
I guess if Eastern European type is your cup of tea you would think they are hott, but personally they don’t really do much for me.
its funny how only twincest works in porn because you cant prove two actors are biologically related unless theyre twins. Im curious if there’s twincest in straight porn. For some reason Im guessing not.
I just get queasy over the whole thing. The incest taboo isnt just about pregnancy or coercion. Im not sure how anyone with a brother can look at twins having sex and not mentally “go there” and get skeeved out. Just saying.
You all remember when it was a big deal for a double edge blade razor? And you knew it was only a matter of time before they came out with a triple edged blade??……………Well, the porn producing people are no different…..
What I find interesting about this isn’t that there are twins making porn, but how it challenges us to test the strength of our own convictions.
If we honestly believe that adult human beings have a right to engage in whatever consensual sexual relationships and practices they choose, then we should be OK with their choices as well as our own.
Yet many people here seem to be reacting with the exact same arguments homophobes use against us time and again–it’s immoral, it’s wrong, it’s against nature, it’s disgusting–and providing just as little in the way of actual arguments *why* it’s so wrong, immoral, unnatural, or disgusting. Lots of us seem to be willing to jump to the conclusion that it’s pathological, too, and needs to be fixed–again, just like our opponents.
I think it says a lot about how strong these gut reactions are that, even among people who should know better from having been on the receiving end, we are so affected by our own discomfort and distaste that we confuse our opinions for facts and our beliefs for truths. We do so even when it flies in the face of what we believe about sexual freedom.
I’m speechless. I can’t believe most of you guys are defending incest! Shameful, and shame on you!
Spare me the poor analogy,DAVE, our sexual orientation is not the same as the issue of incest. And no, being gay isn’t about everything sexual being ok, it’s about affirming the goodness of male(sexual) love. Not incest, adultery, etc. Pathetic. You guys make me feel betrayed with no moral discernment. Pathetic. Not everything is relative.
@nikko: Am guessing your comment got auto flagged…………Queerty sometimes throws you a curve ball with what they won’t allow to automatically be posted…..
Strangest flag: You are not allowed to post the word “pen*s” however cock, dick, schlong, meat,tool,prick, et all aren’t flagged…………...
Yes, a lot of homophobes would use the same argument against gay people but this is your own BLOOD we’re talking about.
It is not correct for a father to fuck his daughter, for a sister to blow her brother or for two lesbian twins to do each other. It is your own blood.
Just because gay people can’t get pregnant if they fuck their next of kin does not make incest something good. I dissaprove whether you’re straight or gay.
Keep your goddamn hands away from your fucking family! There’s plenty of fish…
I can’t quite see how it is ‘immoral’, there is no such thing as morality anyway, it’s not fixed but relative. Just as how people differ as to whether they think that same sex marriage is immoral. It would be immoral if it was a straight child because of the defects aspect but if it is a gay couple then the stigma needn’t exist. Because we get used to being taught biases that have no logical rationale people hate and fear things that are different, ironically this is the same logic used to condemn gay sex in many countries and control people’s desires.
So the argument is that the world has to make an EXCEPTION for gay people and not frown upon any incestual practices in the community just because queer folks can’t breed with each other and therefore cannot produce children with congenital birth deffects?
How hypocrital. Remember, equality is not about making exceptions for any particular group.
And, as a clinical psychologist, I will say there IS such a thing as being a outside the limits of healthy sexual activities and feelings. Exhibit A: See above.
As opposed to sodomy, there are reasongs why incest is still illegal in modern times.
Pornographers are sleazy. We in the GLBT community should reject porn.
As for those who are saying “oh, it’s harmless”, would they say the same if it was a brother and sister having sex with each other? That’s also “harmless”.
Just because someone says “I’m gay”, it doesn’t give them automatic license to flout the basic conventions of a society. Our GLBT rights are based on orientation, and are thus moral. Incest isn’t based on orientation, it’s based on a fetish.
So if there’s no such thing as morality, how could it possibly be immoral if it was a straight couple? Because in the moral vacuum, anything goes, right?
@DR (the real one): Please clarify your point. Whether you like it or not your stance that this is immoral is a completely relative stance based on your own bias for things unknown. Please prove how it is not.
Oh I see, so we have to make an EXCEPTION for queer people. Incest is perfectly fine for them because they can’t breed so it is unlikely that they’ll produce children with congential birth deffects?
How hypocritical. I thought equality was about not making exceptions to any particular group.
Yes, it make a lot of sense. We should not frown upon gays and lesbians who fuck their own flesh and blood. They’re gay so its ok!
I agree with TylerTime and Zach.
There are many reasons why incest is still illegal in modern times and sodomy is not. Don’t confuse sexual freedom with mentally unhealthy sexual behaviors.
My point is that we in the GLBT community need to take back the moral high ground. We can’t afford to cede it to right-wing homophobes, to pornographers, to incest-lovers, and to all-round sleaze merchants. Our community was never designed to be based on sleaze and permissiveness but, rather, on morality.
We must never forget this. Our movement is based on morality. If you’re in the gay scene because you want anonymous sex and porn, you’re in it for the wrong reason.
Being gay shouldn’t automatically mean that you should be open to every fetish known to mankind. The gay rights movement was always based on the right to our orientation. That’s where it begins and that’s where it ends.
All the other stuff like leather, spanking, incest, amyl, anonymous sex, promsicuity…these aren’t about gay rights. They’re fetishes and indulgences. They don’t belong to the gay rights banner.
How far does gay morality go? Folks here want to justify incest, which is illegal here in the US (thankfully), but when Rick Santorum says that gay sex leads to pedophilia or polygamy or bestiality, the same folks defending these freaks will jump up and down screaming “not true”.
Great, so it won’t lead to multiple partners, just incest. Can’t wait for NOM to get its hands on this tidbit. Three cheers for relativism when it comes back and bites you all in the butt.
The defense of these freaks is vile, and feel free to censor my comment because you don’t agree with it, because anyone who defends this behavior saddens me and deserves whatever the right throws at you when you ask for equality.
How far does gay morality go? Folks here want to justify incest, which is illegal here in the US (thankfully), but when Rick Santorum says that gay sex leads to pedophilia or polygamy or bestiality, the same folks defending these freaks will jump up and down screaming “not true”.
Great, so it won’t lead to multiple partners, just incest. Can’t wait for NOM to get its hands on this tidbit. Three cheers for relativism when it comes back and bites you all in the butt.
The defense of these freaks is vile, and feel free to censor my comment because you don’t agree with it, because anyone who defends this behavior saddens me and deserves whatever the right throws at you when you ask for equality.
How far does gay morality go? Folks here want to justify incest, which is illegal here in the US (thankfully), but when Rick Santorum says that gay sex leads to pedophilia or polygamy or bestiality, the same folks defending these guys will jump up and down screaming “not true”.
Great, so it won’t lead to multiple partners, just incest. Can’t wait for NOM to get its hands on this tidbit. Three cheers for relativism when it comes back and bites you all in the butt.
The defense of these guys saddens me and those who are deserve whatever the right throws at you when you ask for equality.
Incest is a sign of serious dysfunction within a family. Leave it to the gay media to think its hot. Years from now when these boys are no longer cute, they will dissolve further into the psychosexual hell they came from.
To everyone who has a ‘live and let live’ attitude toward brothers banging each other…ask yourself this: what would your reaction be to a brother and sister having sex? Before someone throws out the 2-headed baby argument, what if:
a) One of them were sterile.
b) They used contraception
c) They aborted if pregnancy occurred.
Would that still be as ‘okay’ as these two brothers boning each other? Consenting adults, right? For good measure, some might say yes…but I get the feeling that many of them would probably still feel it was warped.
As gay men we sometimes tend to be a little too flagrant when it comes to dismissing (or being permissive of) *any* kind of male/male sexuality. I’ve been at other gay forums where people argue to the death about twincest/brotherly-incest being perfectly fine because it’s “consenting adults” who can’t make a baby…which, IMO, is total BS. Inbreeding is another reason why incest is wrong, it’s not the reason. Sex between blood relatives often occurs under dysfunctional circumstances and introduces a whole bunch of convoluted elements that contradicts and/or totally fucks up the base familial dynamic between the two. What happens if a lovers spat occurs, do these two guys just go back to being brothers after that?
With six billion people on the planet, let your sibling just be your sibling; leave the house to find a lover.
I completely agree with you. I do want to point out that feeling revulsion towards this isn’t necessarily wrong though (it’s just a matter of personal taste, I don’t think I could ever bring myself to want to sleep with one of my siblings). I feel the same revulsion imagining myself sleeping with a member of the opposite sex, but I 100% agree with your point that consenting adults should be able to be together regardless of what society might think of them for it.
I don’t really have a moral problem with this, kinda hot I guess. No brothers, so incest is a pretty intellectual exercise.
The legality is trick though. If it were brother/sister, I’d come down pretty firmly against on account of inbreeding, etc.- there’s demonstrable harm to the children. So do we pass a law that says incest is only okay if it’s gay? Pass that through congress, I dare you.
@Aaron in Honolulu: Actually, that was not a typo. The letters u and w are typed by different hands and are not easily confused. The fact that you don’t seem to know the difference between a typo and a confused homonym reveals a lack of command of the concepts at play in these discussions.
I’m not grossed out at all. So what if they are brothers? They’re in love and it’s consensual. I don’t think love or sex between any of age, consenting individuals should ever be frowned upon. I find it way more disgusting that all of you feel like you have the right to judge them for who they fall in love with. We as gay people should know best of all you can’t help who you love. I’m just happy that they found eachother.
To everyone who has a ‘live and let live’ attitude toward brothers banging each other…ask yourself this: what would your reaction be to a brother and sister having sex? Before someone throws out the 2-headed baby argument, what if: a) One of them were sterile…b) They used contraception…c) They aborted if pregnancy occurred.
Would that still be as ‘okay’ as these two brothers boning each other? Consenting adults, right? For good measure, some might say yes…but I get the feeling that many of them would probably still feel it was warped.
As gay men we sometimes tend to be a little too flagrant when it comes to dismissing (or being permissive of) *any* kind of male/male sexuality. I’ve been at other gay forums where people argue to the death about twincest/brother-incest being perfectly fine because it’s “consenting adults” who can’t make a baby…which, IMO, is total BS. Inbreeding is another reason why incest is wrong, it’s not the reason. Sex between blood relatives often occurs under dysfunctional circumstances and introduces a whole bunch of convoluted elements that contradicts and/or totally fucks up the base familial dynamic between the two. What happens if a lovers spat occurs, do these two guys just go back to being brothers after that?
With six billion people on the planet, leave the house to find a lover. Let your sibling just be your sibling.
I have to wonder what emotionally unhealthy person decides it’s fine to have sex AND engage in a romantic relationship with his brother. It eludes me. It’s not emotionally healthy at all.
And I really can’t believe the number of people who think we don’t have the right to judge. The same ones who cry “oh, no, never!” when the conservatives tell America that if SSM is legalized people will marry their brothers and sisters or multiple partners… well, here you all are supporting incest. Bravo.
@Wade MacMorrighan: Oh, come on!!! Lots of folks were offended by what I said about getting turned on by a hot dad and (legal) son doing it?! WTF?! I can’t count how many str8 guys are turned on by the thought of a mother and daughter, so I refuse to accept such senseless criticism! Bunch’a prudes!
@Zach: I meant that if morality did actually exist as a fixed concept then heterosexual incest would be immoral because of the possibility of a severely deformed child but with gay sex that can’t happen obviously so no-one is hurt.
I can’t help but wonder how many people going “Ewww, gross” are secretly turned on by this.
That said, I agree that there aren’t a lot of reasons given as to why it’s so repugnant. I mean, from a purely practical standpoint, there’s no risk of inbreeding, there’s no apparent power imbalance — so how is it wrong or harmful. They’re consenting adults who fell in love with each other. If it’s not your thing, then fine, but don’t pass judgment on them just because you, personally, would not want such a relationship.
Personally, I think the incest taboo should only apply in cases where there is a) coercion; b) a significant power imbalance; and/or c) a risk of inbreeding.
Otherwise, who cares? Remember that in a lot of cultures, it’s common for first cousins to marry each other, and that used to be common here as well.
As the Salon article noted, these types of fantasies in the straight world are usually accompanied by a third-party straight guy who is on the receiving side of all of the attention. This is dramatically different.
I’m not sure if I can see what is so wrong about incest. Perhaps its gross and disgusting and perhaps I am completely amoral. However, its someone you are very close to. Its someone you have been very close to for years (since you were children obviously) and will be very close to for years to come. Its definitely taboo, but in the end if you can hook up with a stranger you have no feelings for then why can’t you hook up with your brother you have loved and will love for all your life?
At some point you have to ask “Who does it hurt for them to be lovers” And the only possible answer is “No one.” So God bless them and best wishes to them.
You mean aside from the fact that emotionally healthy people do not have sex with their siblings? I’ve yet to meet any emotionally healthy ones who do. In my experience they usually end up in the criminal justice system.
@DR:Hmm…I don’t know what the statistics are, I don’t what behavior is customary in other cultures, and I’ve never met someone that has had voluntary sex with their siblings so I can’t have an opinion on the emotional health of these people. But that is a much better conversation worth having, especially with someone who either knows of someone like this or participates themselves, than simply stating its immoral and icky.
And this is our business because? Look you may not like the idea of two brothers twins or not getting it on, but how does that hurt your sex life? “Oh no two brothers are sleeping together, there goes my relationship.” Get a life people and stop worrying about what’s going on in other peoples bedrooms, are we now becoming like straight people? Sleeping with my brother has never crossed my mind, but if two consenting adults decide there they are in love who are we to judge.
Oh and if you don’t like it don’t watch it, no one’s forcing you too. But I do have to admit I did watch it and I thought it was hot, and you can really see the love they have for each other.
@Bret: Hey Bret – settle petal. I did not judge anyone just simply stated that the idea of twins as lovers was not my cup of tea. Do not get your panties in a knot over something that was not stated or implied.
I think sex with and or between twins is absolutely hot! I had sex with twins on one occasion and, believe me, it was (and still is) fantasy material. These two men shared the same womb – naked. Why should they not get naked together out of the womb? Also, consider that each person knows how best to pleasure themselves, why wouldn’t your identical twin know how to do that best, too? If I had a gay twin, I would certainly entertain a relationship with him. I’m a pretty nice guy and very attractive. It so happens, I do have a gay older brother and we have had sex with each other. It was in a hot tub with two other guys – hot hot hot!
I am appalled by the people that are condemning this! All of you, you’re treating them just like our peers were treated or are being treated – discriminated because they consider ‘icky’ and ‘immoral’ what we do and who we are. You are all just as disgusting and bigoted as those that you call ‘bigots’.
No longer can I consider our community to be widely open-minded when we’re as infected with bigotry as Fred Phelps and his followers. Look at yourselves in the mirror before calling someone else a bigot.
I am happy that they found love, their lover being each other’s twin brother is irrelevant and in no way affects me.
Personally this isn’t for me. Unlike others, I’m not going on a rant about morals and what is right and what is wrong. This simply isn’t my cup of tea. I can only think of the anguish these guys must have gone through to make them cross such a taboo line. When you strip away all of the sex and novelty, you must wonder what in the hell happened along the way. I wonder how people would feel if they were brother and sister or perhaps father and son.
cantstandthisbs, I agree with you. This pervert madness is why the majority population in the United States think all gays are freaks. It’s nasty to have any type of sex with your blood brother. It’s an abomination.
These perverted homosexual brothers will burn in hell for fornicating with each other. Not only is this immoral, it’s a crime against nature. I am speaking to losers that support incest from my grave in Raleigh, North Carolina. This is unnatural and ungodly.
@Jesse Helms: From your grave? Are you really dead? Are you a spirit who has not gone to your heaven, yet? That’s confusing. You are going to come back as a toad in your next life.
You see, what you believe is not what everyone else believes. Just because you believe it doesn’t make it something you can shove down other’s throats. Believe what you wish, live your life as best you are able, and have some good lives as you are reincarnated. I don’t believe in using what I believe to belittle others.
Personally, your god doesn’t make any sense at all. Therefore, your “christian” morals are questionable, also. No one wants to listen to you when you say, “I have the real truth, believe as I do or you’re going to burn for eternity.” That reeks of a fear-based religion, not one based on love. I choose to have nothing to do with christianity for that reason. If anyone is going to your hell, it is those who attempt to control others through fear. Now, THAT IS IMMORAL!
OK, others judge me so who am I to judge them? (And I don’t think it’s that bad… If they’re really into it…) Plus, don’t straight people have things that are totally more disturbing? (Remember that video on the internet a while back…?)
Not my thing, but they can make their own choices. I can’t help but think that it’s not exactly healthy to want to basically have sex with yourself, but it’s not my business and I don’t really see what morality has to do with it.
I’m a bit turned off by all the comments suggesting that the Peters are giving the gay community a bad reputation – anyone who would see this and think it’s a “gay problem” is so ignorant they will probably be homophobes no matter what.
They have found a way to make money off their love and sexual attraction for each other – don’t put the burden of the whole gay community on them. I really don’t think it has much to do with it.
I have to say that I highly disagree with the ‘narcissistic’ viewpoints that people have with twincest. If you’re only focusing on looks? Sure, then, it’s narcissistic. But one point I’d like to bring up: twins who are identical in looks are not always identical in personality; I know a few twins and they could not be more different in personality. Is this the case with all of them? No.
I don’t think that these two bang (and ‘love’) each other because they want to be in love with another version of themselves. Identical or not, each person is an individual.
Nonetheless, I personally approve of twincest (both the love and the sex parts), whether you are identical or not. People are people. Judging them by saying they’re “wrong” before you’re in their shoes is just what a lot of people do to gays.
That there’s no chance of pregnancy is definitely more than half of the battle. The other is an unequal relationship. With twins, there’s an equal relationship that’s not there with older and younger brothers, or heaven forbid, father and son. I think twins having sex is beautiful, even right and proper. If there is such a thing as soulmates, twins are it. They’re made for each other. Their DNA is identical. It’s like the best masturbation possible. I’d be so happy to be one half of a pair of gay twins who were everything to each other.
@Casablancos: Fuck I don’t and I’m Bi. I have my moral limits when it comes to stuff like that. The idea of doing it with a blood relative makes my skin crawl. Sure they can’t have kids but if this is a trend then what next? Bestiality?
To ease the guilt of moralists —
The Old Testament allows not only polygamy, but it’s ok for a man to have sisters in his harem. Twins are ok, too.
The Bible draws the line at having both a woman and her daughter in your harem. I doubt there’s been much complaint about that from anyone — at least, I wouldn’t think so.
If if was rich enough to afford a gay male harem (stable?) I doubt that I’d consider keeping a man and his father in it. That would be too weird for me.
But twins or triplets who want to mate & live happily ever after? Sure, why not? I can’t think of any practical reason why they shouldn’t.
#22 unpopular; me too on ALL counts. That being said, what they do is none of my f’in buisness. If it’s right for THEM, then so be it. The only people on the planet besides themselves who have ANY right to complain are thier parents. Love is truely blind. Oh yes, while I’m here throwing gas on the fire, my spell checker doesn’t recognise the English language so all you wannabe English teachers out there put a cork in it when I slaughter my grammer and spelling. I’ve never seen such a bunch of snarkey comments when the writers make a typo or use the wrong word. (then/than thier/there etc.) Now I’m gonna watch the Visconti triplets bang these guys on x-tube. (Just yanking your chains on that last one, honestly!)
I’m not going to state my opinion on if I think this is okay or not.
But I do have a question that I’m curious to see answers to.
Let’s assume for a second, that they are really, truly in love with one another.
In fact, let’s say we’re talking fraternal twins.
Same sex fraternal twins, who don’t look alike.
And are in love with one another?
Like, honestly have true blue romantic feelings and all of that business.
What are your thoughts on that?
I’m all for love and all but the fact that they are related by blood just kills it for me. I can’t support such a thing but I won’t get in their way. It’s hard enough to be gay in this world but add incestuous to that and all kinds of crap happen.
I don’t believe that there is anything wrong with twincest and from what I’ve read those who are strongly disagreeing with it appear to be very narrow-minded and not able to even consider another persons perspective on the matter. I also have not read or heard any real proof as to why twincest is wrong! People just say with is sick, gross or against their religioin. I would like to know how it is against religion. I’m a Christian and I dont think there is anything wrong with it. If two twin males fall in love they should be allowed to express this love like non related humans can.
I, personally, am not bothered by gays, incest, twincest or anything like that. If they love each other then that’s not mine, yours or anybody else’s problem but their’s so but out! I personally wouldn’t want to sleep or be in a relationship other than the usual with my brothers because they do my head in, but I know some siblings are like best friends (plus my older brother is gay). I can understand why brother and sister relationships aren’t accepted, as any accidental babies could be deformed, but to me there isn’t anything wrong with homosexual incest, as if you split them up they will just be with someone of the same sex meaning, still there will be no children, so what would be the point? If people still can’t open there minds and see things for what they are, then that really shows that we haven’t made any progress and the animal kingdom is far ahead of us in that sense.
(I am Christian and can open my mind so why can’t any of your religious preachers and morons do the same)
I, personally, am not bothered by gays, incest, twincest or anything like that. If they love each other then that’s not mine, yours or anybody else’s problem but their’s so but out! If you think doing anything sexual with your relatives is gross well then don’t do it with your relatives but what they do with there’s is not your problem and you aren’t the one doing it!
I wouldn’t want to sleep or be in a relationship other than the usual with my brothers because they do my head in, but I know some siblings are like best friends (plus my older brother is gay).
I can understand why brother and sister relationships aren’t accepted, as any accidental babies could be deformed, but to me there isn’t anything wrong with homosexual incest, as if you split them up they will just be with someone of the same sex meaning, still there will be no children, so what would be the point? If people still can’t open there minds and see things for what they are, then that really shows that we haven’t made any progress and the animal kingdom is far ahead of us in that sense.
(I am Christian and can open my mind so why can’t any of your religious preachers and morons do the same)
They seem genuinely in love and are incredibly hot. I don;t like most porn, in part because its usually pretty mechanical, but not with the Peters brothers. I’m happy for them. If other people don’t like them, then don’t watch their videos.
Hmm…I’m torn about this. In fictional scenarios, twincest is hot, but when I see it in real life it’s a little disturbing. Probably because my brother and I have been compared to twins. If I think about it for too long I start getting paranoid. Which is really weird. Trust me.
Many of these comments reflect why we can’t overcome the rhetoric of the majority: even we have trouble abandoning our own respective dogmas and personal biases in favor of pure logic. I can only assume that many of the “it’s just WRONG” believers are expressing these illogical “arguments” because you’re either still drinking the Judeo- Christian KoolAid or you’re still trying to get it out of your systems after coming to your senses.
Consider the fact incest was not always condemned in the Old Testament. Why? If we are to believe biblical history while also considering evolution without our brains exploding, it makes sense that it took several generations for recessive genes to begin causing problems for the children of closely related individuals. But when those pesky defects started creeping in, someone had the brains to tell those cousin/ brother/ sister lovers to knock it the hell off. And if the second generation of humans had only the option of marrying a fellow child of Adam and Eve, well… they had to keep the family going somehow.
If you are not going to burden society with an extra- special needs child, and both (hell, Mormons, I would even submit “all”) parties are consenting human adults, love and make happy whoever you want!
@Tylertime: Wow, your post is freighted with ALL KINDS of judgement! So the twins are terrible, depraved, demented., etc because they do something you don’t endorse, but the finger wagging doesn’t stop there. You criticize the people commenting who don’t issue the same knee-jerk condemnation that you do.
The excuses given to praise this gives ammo to every Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, etc. on the planet. Because all your focus is on THE MOST STEREOTYPICAL THEREFORE SHALLOW aspects of the situation.
Until they went this route I also was enamored with these 2 having many a fantasy of being done by them both. That is until I heard and saw their first video of them doing each other. For the 2 of them having sex is worst than watching the Jarics from Falcon Studios. Both pairs exemplify the stereotypical gay narcissistic mindset of how every gay male wants to have sex with himself. The mentally-diseased part about the Peters twins that makes them worst than the look-alike Jarics is the fact that there’s an exchange of a naturally connected DNA strain.
I have a twin brother, we are both gay. When I tell people that there is naturally some excitement followed by the annoying question “have you guys ever had sex?”. I don’t understand the fascination. Have you had sex with your siblings? Why ask me if I’ve had sex with mine? In regards to the bel ami twins, this doesn’t sit well with me at all. They are taking their natural brotherly love that only comes from being born and growing up together, and tainting it with these misguided feelings of love and lust. I don’t frown upon twin porn, or even the occasional private trists, but to identify to each other as lovers is sad and I think they are just naive and will have to grow up.
Some years ago, I had a friend. He had both a gay brother, and a gay father. From what I heard at the time. All three had sex together. The family that —-
What’s twiddles ones twaddle, isn’t necessarily for all. What I find about twins who have sex with other isn’t so much that they are brothers, it’s that they are identical. Isn’t that very narcissistic?
RE: Posting by: No. 122 · NotSquicked : Wow, I am amazed that this guy, who self identifies as “Christian” in his comments, speaks out in a positive, open minded and accepting way about the Peters twins and their lifestyles. No offense to Jesus people in general, but dipshits like Rick Santorum and that Cuccinnelli doofus up in Virginia sure make me have a knee jerk reaction of revulsion when I hear somebody self identify as an Evangelical type. So many of them are so full of hatred and judgment! And I’ve never been able to find any Bible passages in which Jesus was about hatred. Only love, as far as I’ve been able to determine.
I couldn’t agree more with NotSquicked. I’ve seen a lot of the Peters twins’ videos, including the first, groundbreaking one. I thought it was HOT. And the ones that followed, pairing them up in 3-somes and 4-somes, hotter still. So sue me! And like #123 Ben said, if you don’t like it, then don’t watch their videos!
I hope they’re both very happy (God knows they must be sexually happy as monogamous lovers, since they probably have somewhat of a Vulcan mind meld when they’re going at it–what could be more sexually hot than that?). As for their parents knowing and not being “happy” about it, I hope they accept these boys and still love them as their sons.
This whole issue has brought back words of wisdom a shrink I once went to shared with me about sexuality. He’s one of the wisest men I’ve ever known, and with one of the biggest hearts–and he’s an ex-Jesuit priest, who left the order after 17 years to marry and go on to a successful private practice as a psychologist/psychotherapist. About male sexuality, he said, “You can stick your dick in a woman, and have sex with her. Or you can get together with another man, and have two dicks together. Or you can cut a hole in the wall, and stick your dick in there, and fuck the wall. None of these is more nor less valid than the other. Sex is communication. Sex is ONLY communication. Nothing more, and nothing less than, COMMUNICATION.”
Amen, Doc!
And ROCK ON, Peter’s twins–best to you guys! (And thanks for sharing your hot lives on cam.)
Superlindinhos os irmãozinhos que fazem sexo, eu achei supergostoso, eles estão fazendo aquilo que gostam, estão felizes e gozando deliciosamente. Parabéns.
Wow. Gay people sure are a close-minded, moralistic, self-righteous and hateful bunch. I wonder how we are any different from the Rick Santorums, Pat Robertsons, Michelle Bachmanns and Ann Coulters. When and by whom were all these gay moralists anointed the arbiters of acceptable sexual behavior to replace the straight moralist arbiters of acceptable sexual behavior? And what are the criteria for evaluating the acceptability of sexual behaviors–other than the principle of: “What I do is normal; what others do is abomination.” So to this morality debate, I’ll add my criterion (singular): What’s the answer to the question, “Who does it hurt?”? If the answer is: “No one”, then it’s acceptable. I still may not like it, or find it creepy or unappealing or even disgusting, but if it doesn’t hurt anyone, then it’s NONE OF MY BUSINESS; OR YOURS!
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Jeff K.
What happens if they break up? There’s still brothers. :\
Mike L.
Lol, I’ll stick with being ok w 2nd cousins, possibly first cousins only b/c of there being no risk of having bio kids w problems but it stops there w my confort level.
annion
Possible #5 – Since they’re the same age (plus or minus a few minutes), there’s not the same power issues inherent in, say, brothers with several years between them. Brothers who started sleeping together when they were both 15 is less squicky than brothers who started sleeping together when they were, say, 13 and 17.
Henry Holland
Dear Peters Brothers:
Lots of lip gloss = not so hot.
Love
HH
Andrew
OK I am going to have to hand in my gaycard – I do not find anything remotely ‘hot’ about the idea of twin brothers banging the brains out of each other. The idea that they claim to be lovers since 15 years old leaves me nauseous.
Wade MacMorrighan
@Andrew: Prude!
Personally, I find the idea of a ripped and buff father and (legal!) son, pair, getting it on extremely hot! :oP Seeing as how we;re pushing the envelope, and all…
PS: MUST find that sdtk, “Get it On!”
TommyOC
I have a twin. And when potential dates learn about this, they always do the giggling, “So, um, wouldn’t it be hot if we “hung” out with him as well?” And let met tell you, unless you’re super-hot and I’m super into you, that question is annoying even before you open your mouth – and that’s because I know what you’re going to ask. Without exception.
Of course, I have an easy excuse that stops the ickfest cold: My brother’s straight.
That said, these two boys are gorgeous. And I’d totally watch them do it – but I couldn’t look at their faces. It’d just have to be a two headless twinks show.
For me, it’s better than recognizing that they’re actually twins – nevermind twins who are supposedly in love with each other.
MuscleBoy
Yeah, that´s what I a talking about, all hot, all men woof. I hope this is just the beginning of a trend. It is awesome dudes, keep at it! Congrats.
Baxter
The fact that they’re in love with each other weirds me out a lot more than that they’re having sex with each other. I’m not sure why.
Devon
You can’t spell twincest without win.
Jeff K.
^^ Whoops! Sorry about my horrible typo up there. ^^
Casablancos
One hot guy doing porn is great, but two of him is even better.
cantstandthisbs
and this is why people think us homos are fucked up
Casablancos
@cantstandthisbs:
As if straight men don’t jerk it to porn featuring hot sisters…
Tylertime
I don’t know what’s more disturbing…that these guys are doing each other (their poor parents) or that many guys on this site don’t see a problem with it.
brihova
I’m more disturbed that you refer to them as hot….. UMMMMM NO!!!!
Damien
I might not personally think it so hot, but I’m not going to judge the love between two consenting people and their bedroom activities. I think a gay person would be the first to see the problems regarding others’ negative judgments when it comes to a foreign type of love and sex.
Tinkerbill
What disturbs me most in the comments on this and the salon article is that what disturbs some people is not the sex, but the fact that they truly deeply love each other.
If you can only enjoy your porn if there’s coercion involved, like the kind they make for straight men where, and to name just one example: getting off on the idea of forcing mothers to do it with their daughters, you’re more fucked up than any twincest, which is, as many people have pointed out, a relationship between equals. I prefer this kind over the kind of pseudo-lesbian twincest where a dude comes barging in because it’s not ‘real’ sex until there’s a dick representing.
Not that I’m going to watch these brothers, I don’t doubt that they love each other and that makes it reassuring and ‘better’ (I guess, morally) than a lot of mainstream porn, but it still smells of twinsploitation.
stop flaggin me! (delurker)
sick. sick. sick. anyone who has a brother and who is not completely fucked in the head would feel the same way.
Jeffrey
I wonder what the objection is about with these twin “lovers”. They’re hot, they’re consenting adults, they run no risk of creating genetically effed-up off spring, and they obviously have their choice of who they sex with.
No doubt theres a very valid taboo against incesst where theres the possibility of pregnancy or coercion. That doesnt apply here.
If you think it ‘s “disgusting” please explain why.
I personally worry about the guys being exploited by the porn industry or just doing it to play to the twin fetishists, but aside from those things, I can’t think of a reason they’re disgusting or immoral. Rape or forced sex acts aredisgusting & immoral to me. Unsafe sex is bad :& dangerous.
I wouldn’t want, personally to have sex with my twin if I had one because i sexually prefer guys who are opposite or different from me: taller, shorter, /hairier, less hairy/, more or less muscular, more rural or totally citified….. Etc.
So, for the folks who want to scream FOUL & NASTY please say your reasons why. Thanks !
hamoboy
the things about incestuous relationships is that they’re too close… What I mean is that the power and family dynamics that are present in every family will almost certainly screw up any incestuous relationship…
While I don’t think it’s wrong for same sex siblings, I think it’s harder, scarier, and more dangerous, and if I were a parent, I’d be very concerned, particularly for the younger/more naive sibling of the pair…
Unpopular
I have a brother, we aren’t twins. I’d totally bang him. Just to see what it’s like. I’ve always thought so, and it creeps me out a little, but I’d do it. He’s straight, never would, so it wont ever happen, but still, there it is.
Viral
Whoo-hoo, don’t know who’d have a bigger field day with this, like every single anti-homo group or Freud (with the biggest arguments on which brother is more oral/anal)
But seriously, why does that fact that the Peters are supposed to be “attractive” even play into the argument? Are “ugly” people immune to incest? Should the ugly twins be lynched if they dare decide mate together? From a psychological stand-point, it would make a bit more sense than this.
@Jeffrey: I wouldn’t say the union is disgusting or gross or nasty or anything like that; I’d say it’s more disturbing. The level of narcissism and crippling dependence it takes to literally fall in love with yourself is rather astonishing (in a “Flowers in the Attic” sort of way). It gives new meaning to the phrase “go f#ck yourself”, since each twin does.
San Francisco Treat
@ 5 and 14 – I’m pretty sure I’d never have sex with any of my brothers, but if someone else wants to do it I don’t think it’s any of my business. I don’t like people judging my sexuality and in turn I give others the same regard.
SM
They have amazing bodies. But their faces are highly questionable. And not in a normal ‘they’re not that hot for a porn star, but in real life it’d be different’-way, but in a I really really don’t think they’re attractive.
Saying that, I am loving the Twin thing…
SSCHIEFRSHA
Those arguing their inability to do their brothers don’t have brothers who are perfect 10s below the neck! I’ve known these two since their VirtuaGay days and I must say they got the most downloads back then too. Smokin’ pair!!!
DR (the real one)
I’m a twin, and this makes me nauseated. They’re bothers and they claim to have been exclusive lovers since they were 15? And they don’t grasp why people think this is wrong. I have to “me too” several of the above posts. I’m not sure what’s worse, the fact they think it’s ok, or the fact so many here think incest (a criminal activity throughout the US) is ok.
DR (the real one)
@San Francisco Treat:
And the Rethuglicans say the same thing about gays. Why is it that your comments make it any more appropriate?
Relativism is all well and good, but not in this case. They’re twins, this is illegal, immoral, and just plain disgusting. I say that as a twin.
Ramama
@SSCHIEFRSHA: How is it immoral? That it’s disgusting to you doesn’t matter at all. And I’m a twin-who-wouldn’t-have-sex-with-his-twin too.
Mike in Asheville, nee "in Brooklyn"
Who am I, or any of you, to tell 2 consenting adults who they can or can’t have sex with and who they can or can’t love?
Sure its a bit creepy, but most straight people think we gays/lesbians are a bit creepy anyway. And within the gay and lesbian community, quite a few people think that Bisexuals and Transsexuals are creepy.
How about “Live and let live?”
+++++++++++++++++++++
@No. 12 Cantstandthisbs
Ummm, if you Google sex fetishes, you will find that there are at least 10 times more fucked-up weird shit straight sex sites than gay sites. Those breeders are into some pretty fucked-up shit.
jason
This is just sad beyond belief. Utterly tragic, actually. Please don’t perform your lusts under the gay rights banner. Your lusts have nothing to do with orientation but everything to do with fetish. You have a fetish for your mirror images.
Are they so desperate for money? They could get well-paying jobs as lifesavers.
counterpoll
so if they want to be lovers why cant they?
i dont have a twin & if i did i’m sure i wouldnt want to do him, but i just keep hearing you all say its gross. no one is forcing them to do this. no children will get born. no one is being harmed. nobody is forced to watch them
if you dont like it ok then dont watch their vids.
mikeincleveland
oh great…
okay, so we’ll give this about one election cycle before some Family Values candidate brings up “brother-love” in their campaign ads against their opponent for their support of LGBT issues.
all because some old guys in East Europe got two brothers in need of medication and therapy (and fatter bank accounts) to start doing it with each other (and make up their entire back story to boot) so they could buy another house in the Alps.
sometimes just because a few of the guys in the bar are into some pretty sick ideas, doesn’t mean the rest of us in the community have to get punished at the polls because of them.
what happens in the darkroom…sometimes should just stay back there.
stop flaggin me! (delurker)
I think I have it figured out. Lusting after someone who looks like you is pure narcissism. You are in love with yourself and want someone who looks like you.
On hook-up sites, how many times have have you seen people describe themselves physically, and end the description with the phrase “ub2.”
Twincest or being ok with it seems to be most extreme extension of that narcissism.
romeo
I could never watch this. The thought of it is unimaginable to me. BTW, most incestuous relationships are between fathers and daughters, and are emotionally destructive beyond belief. Incest is a taboo that exists for good reason and should be kept firmly in place.
Twin
I’m a twin who hasn’t ever had sex with my twin. I don’t want to, but I wouldn’t judge these guys. If they love each other, and I think they do in a way most of you would never get, I think its great. In fact, its awesome.
J. Clarence
The reason incest has often been a taboo isn’t because of the possible genetic risks posed to the offspring, it has been instead been nature of the relationship and its effect on the family. If a father is having a sexual relationship with his daughter, then the mother is then put into competition for her husband’s affection with her daughter. It really screws things up. Among siblings it is bit different, but still generally the same, in particular if you have multiple siblings.
Nevertheless, the fact that these two can’t have children does change nature of it, I think we can be honest about that; however, it still is not something I think we should turn a blind eye to. Clearly, there is a well established view of what an appropriate sibling relationship should be like, and I think the fact that if we believe their story and they started this relationship when they were 15 (which maybe this is an assumption of my old-fashion thinking was their first relationship) would probably raise a flag for many psychiatrists.
I guess if Eastern European type is your cup of tea you would think they are hott, but personally they don’t really do much for me.
merkin
its funny how only twincest works in porn because you cant prove two actors are biologically related unless theyre twins. Im curious if there’s twincest in straight porn. For some reason Im guessing not.
I just get queasy over the whole thing. The incest taboo isnt just about pregnancy or coercion. Im not sure how anyone with a brother can look at twins having sex and not mentally “go there” and get skeeved out. Just saying.
David Ehrenstein
I’ve always had a thing for twins. . .
whatever
I think I got it. Wanting someone who resembles you is narcissism. You are in love with yourself and want a clone to sex up.
On cruising, how often do you see profiles where people describe their stats and attributes, and end it with the expression “ub2”?
Twincest (or at least being ok with it) is like be most extreme and logical extension of that narcissism.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Wow! you can tell either one to “go fuck yourself” and he can!!! :-p
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
You all remember when it was a big deal for a double edge blade razor? And you knew it was only a matter of time before they came out with a triple edged blade??……………Well, the porn producing people are no different…..
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Baxter
@PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS: We can only hope that the Octomom’s brood gets into the biz someday.
Dave
What I find interesting about this isn’t that there are twins making porn, but how it challenges us to test the strength of our own convictions.
If we honestly believe that adult human beings have a right to engage in whatever consensual sexual relationships and practices they choose, then we should be OK with their choices as well as our own.
Yet many people here seem to be reacting with the exact same arguments homophobes use against us time and again–it’s immoral, it’s wrong, it’s against nature, it’s disgusting–and providing just as little in the way of actual arguments *why* it’s so wrong, immoral, unnatural, or disgusting. Lots of us seem to be willing to jump to the conclusion that it’s pathological, too, and needs to be fixed–again, just like our opponents.
I think it says a lot about how strong these gut reactions are that, even among people who should know better from having been on the receiving end, we are so affected by our own discomfort and distaste that we confuse our opinions for facts and our beliefs for truths. We do so even when it flies in the face of what we believe about sexual freedom.
nikko
I’m speechless. I can’t believe most of you guys are defending incest! Shameful, and shame on you!
Spare me the poor analogy,DAVE, our sexual orientation is not the same as the issue of incest. And no, being gay isn’t about everything sexual being ok, it’s about affirming the goodness of male(sexual) love. Not incest, adultery, etc. Pathetic. You guys make me feel betrayed with no moral discernment. Pathetic. Not everything is relative.
nikko
really? Me a spammer?! When? Huh?
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
@nikko: Am guessing your comment got auto flagged…………Queerty sometimes throws you a curve ball with what they won’t allow to automatically be posted…..
Strangest flag: You are not allowed to post the word “pen*s” however cock, dick, schlong, meat,tool,prick, et all aren’t flagged…………...
memoiyo
Yes, a lot of homophobes would use the same argument against gay people but this is your own BLOOD we’re talking about.
It is not correct for a father to fuck his daughter, for a sister to blow her brother or for two lesbian twins to do each other. It is your own blood.
Just because gay people can’t get pregnant if they fuck their next of kin does not make incest something good. I dissaprove whether you’re straight or gay.
Keep your goddamn hands away from your fucking family! There’s plenty of fish…
Lamar
I can’t quite see how it is ‘immoral’, there is no such thing as morality anyway, it’s not fixed but relative. Just as how people differ as to whether they think that same sex marriage is immoral. It would be immoral if it was a straight child because of the defects aspect but if it is a gay couple then the stigma needn’t exist. Because we get used to being taught biases that have no logical rationale people hate and fear things that are different, ironically this is the same logic used to condemn gay sex in many countries and control people’s desires.
lavidahermosa
So the argument is that the world has to make an EXCEPTION for gay people and not frown upon any incestual practices in the community just because queer folks can’t breed with each other and therefore cannot produce children with congenital birth deffects?
How hypocrital. Remember, equality is not about making exceptions for any particular group.
And, as a clinical psychologist, I will say there IS such a thing as being a outside the limits of healthy sexual activities and feelings. Exhibit A: See above.
As opposed to sodomy, there are reasongs why incest is still illegal in modern times.
That’s all.
jason
Pornographers are sleazy. We in the GLBT community should reject porn.
As for those who are saying “oh, it’s harmless”, would they say the same if it was a brother and sister having sex with each other? That’s also “harmless”.
Just because someone says “I’m gay”, it doesn’t give them automatic license to flout the basic conventions of a society. Our GLBT rights are based on orientation, and are thus moral. Incest isn’t based on orientation, it’s based on a fetish.
DR (the real one)
@Lamar:
Then trust me, I will remind all of you about this thread the next time you complain because some redneck talks about gay sex leading to x,y, or z.
Zach
@Lamar:
So if there’s no such thing as morality, how could it possibly be immoral if it was a straight couple? Because in the moral vacuum, anything goes, right?
Damien
@DR (the real one): Please clarify your point. Whether you like it or not your stance that this is immoral is a completely relative stance based on your own bias for things unknown. Please prove how it is not.
Nyc08
Oh I see, so we have to make an EXCEPTION for queer people. Incest is perfectly fine for them because they can’t breed so it is unlikely that they’ll produce children with congential birth deffects?
How hypocritical. I thought equality was about not making exceptions to any particular group.
Yes, it make a lot of sense. We should not frown upon gays and lesbians who fuck their own flesh and blood. They’re gay so its ok!
I agree with TylerTime and Zach.
There are many reasons why incest is still illegal in modern times and sodomy is not. Don’t confuse sexual freedom with mentally unhealthy sexual behaviors.
P.s. Revise your flagging policies, Queerty.
Lee
@Damien:
Honestly you are so right. Let them be.
jason
My point is that we in the GLBT community need to take back the moral high ground. We can’t afford to cede it to right-wing homophobes, to pornographers, to incest-lovers, and to all-round sleaze merchants. Our community was never designed to be based on sleaze and permissiveness but, rather, on morality.
We must never forget this. Our movement is based on morality. If you’re in the gay scene because you want anonymous sex and porn, you’re in it for the wrong reason.
bruce
Being gay shouldn’t automatically mean that you should be open to every fetish known to mankind. The gay rights movement was always based on the right to our orientation. That’s where it begins and that’s where it ends.
All the other stuff like leather, spanking, incest, amyl, anonymous sex, promsicuity…these aren’t about gay rights. They’re fetishes and indulgences. They don’t belong to the gay rights banner.
DR
How far does gay morality go? Folks here want to justify incest, which is illegal here in the US (thankfully), but when Rick Santorum says that gay sex leads to pedophilia or polygamy or bestiality, the same folks defending these freaks will jump up and down screaming “not true”.
Great, so it won’t lead to multiple partners, just incest. Can’t wait for NOM to get its hands on this tidbit. Three cheers for relativism when it comes back and bites you all in the butt.
The defense of these freaks is vile, and feel free to censor my comment because you don’t agree with it, because anyone who defends this behavior saddens me and deserves whatever the right throws at you when you ask for equality.
DR
@Lee:
How far does gay morality go? Folks here want to justify incest, which is illegal here in the US (thankfully), but when Rick Santorum says that gay sex leads to pedophilia or polygamy or bestiality, the same folks defending these freaks will jump up and down screaming “not true”.
Great, so it won’t lead to multiple partners, just incest. Can’t wait for NOM to get its hands on this tidbit. Three cheers for relativism when it comes back and bites you all in the butt.
The defense of these freaks is vile, and feel free to censor my comment because you don’t agree with it, because anyone who defends this behavior saddens me and deserves whatever the right throws at you when you ask for equality.
DR
How far does gay morality go? Folks here want to justify incest, which is illegal here in the US (thankfully), but when Rick Santorum says that gay sex leads to pedophilia or polygamy or bestiality, the same folks defending these guys will jump up and down screaming “not true”.
Great, so it won’t lead to multiple partners, just incest. Can’t wait for NOM to get its hands on this tidbit. Three cheers for relativism when it comes back and bites you all in the butt.
The defense of these guys saddens me and those who are deserve whatever the right throws at you when you ask for equality.
whatever
I think I got it. Wanting someone who resembles you is narcissism. You are in love with yourself and want a clone to sex up.
On cruising, how often do you see profiles where people describe their stats and attributes, and end it with the expression “ub2”?
Twincest (or at least being ok with it) is like be most extreme and logical extension of that
Read more: http://www.queerty.com/the-4-reasons-youve-gotten-over-twincest-and-started-thinking-its-hot-20100521/#ixzz0oj1NKb2B
Jimmi
Incest is a sign of serious dysfunction within a family. Leave it to the gay media to think its hot. Years from now when these boys are no longer cute, they will dissolve further into the psychosexual hell they came from.
Aaron in Honolulu
I don’t care what anyone says. Two brothers having sex is disgusting and fowl.
San Francisco Treat
The fact that you used “fowl” there suggests your opinion is somewhat uneducated.
CONVERSATION CHAMBER
To everyone who has a ‘live and let live’ attitude toward brothers banging each other…ask yourself this: what would your reaction be to a brother and sister having sex? Before someone throws out the 2-headed baby argument, what if:
a) One of them were sterile.
b) They used contraception
c) They aborted if pregnancy occurred.
Would that still be as ‘okay’ as these two brothers boning each other? Consenting adults, right? For good measure, some might say yes…but I get the feeling that many of them would probably still feel it was warped.
As gay men we sometimes tend to be a little too flagrant when it comes to dismissing (or being permissive of) *any* kind of male/male sexuality. I’ve been at other gay forums where people argue to the death about twincest/brotherly-incest being perfectly fine because it’s “consenting adults” who can’t make a baby…which, IMO, is total BS. Inbreeding is another reason why incest is wrong, it’s not the reason. Sex between blood relatives often occurs under dysfunctional circumstances and introduces a whole bunch of convoluted elements that contradicts and/or totally fucks up the base familial dynamic between the two. What happens if a lovers spat occurs, do these two guys just go back to being brothers after that?
With six billion people on the planet, let your sibling just be your sibling; leave the house to find a lover.
Argos
@No.34
I completely agree with you. I do want to point out that feeling revulsion towards this isn’t necessarily wrong though (it’s just a matter of personal taste, I don’t think I could ever bring myself to want to sleep with one of my siblings). I feel the same revulsion imagining myself sleeping with a member of the opposite sex, but I 100% agree with your point that consenting adults should be able to be together regardless of what society might think of them for it.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Anyone else notice the banner ad which sometimes tops this thread?? “What can a 2 in 1 pill do for you?”………
Mr.Jones
if only Harvey Milk had looked like this…
adman
Thanks Queerty, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Aaron in Honolulu
@San Francisco Treat: ah, typo. It happens.
Symonds
I don’t really have a moral problem with this, kinda hot I guess. No brothers, so incest is a pretty intellectual exercise.
The legality is trick though. If it were brother/sister, I’d come down pretty firmly against on account of inbreeding, etc.- there’s demonstrable harm to the children. So do we pass a law that says incest is only okay if it’s gay? Pass that through congress, I dare you.
Kevin
@Aaron in Honolulu: Actually, that was not a typo. The letters u and w are typed by different hands and are not easily confused. The fact that you don’t seem to know the difference between a typo and a confused homonym reveals a lack of command of the concepts at play in these discussions.
Robbie
I’m not grossed out at all. So what if they are brothers? They’re in love and it’s consensual. I don’t think love or sex between any of age, consenting individuals should ever be frowned upon. I find it way more disgusting that all of you feel like you have the right to judge them for who they fall in love with. We as gay people should know best of all you can’t help who you love. I’m just happy that they found eachother.
Jimmi
@Aaron in Honolulu: It is sick and sad. You wonder at the family dynamics going on. Sicker still are the guys who would buy this.
CONVERSATION CHAMBER
To everyone who has a ‘live and let live’ attitude toward brothers banging each other…ask yourself this: what would your reaction be to a brother and sister having sex? Before someone throws out the 2-headed baby argument, what if: a) One of them were sterile…b) They used contraception…c) They aborted if pregnancy occurred.
Would that still be as ‘okay’ as these two brothers boning each other? Consenting adults, right? For good measure, some might say yes…but I get the feeling that many of them would probably still feel it was warped.
As gay men we sometimes tend to be a little too flagrant when it comes to dismissing (or being permissive of) *any* kind of male/male sexuality. I’ve been at other gay forums where people argue to the death about twincest/brother-incest being perfectly fine because it’s “consenting adults” who can’t make a baby…which, IMO, is total BS. Inbreeding is another reason why incest is wrong, it’s not the reason. Sex between blood relatives often occurs under dysfunctional circumstances and introduces a whole bunch of convoluted elements that contradicts and/or totally fucks up the base familial dynamic between the two. What happens if a lovers spat occurs, do these two guys just go back to being brothers after that?
With six billion people on the planet, leave the house to find a lover. Let your sibling just be your sibling.
Ervs
Ewww. You are so off the rocker on this one.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
I have to wonder what emotionally unhealthy person decides it’s fine to have sex AND engage in a romantic relationship with his brother. It eludes me. It’s not emotionally healthy at all.
And I really can’t believe the number of people who think we don’t have the right to judge. The same ones who cry “oh, no, never!” when the conservatives tell America that if SSM is legalized people will marry their brothers and sisters or multiple partners… well, here you all are supporting incest. Bravo.
Bubba
They are role models for our community, so leave them alone.
Wade MacMorrighan
@Wade MacMorrighan: Oh, come on!!! Lots of folks were offended by what I said about getting turned on by a hot dad and (legal) son doing it?! WTF?! I can’t count how many str8 guys are turned on by the thought of a mother and daughter, so I refuse to accept such senseless criticism! Bunch’a prudes!
Lamar
@Zach: I meant that if morality did actually exist as a fixed concept then heterosexual incest would be immoral because of the possibility of a severely deformed child but with gay sex that can’t happen obviously so no-one is hurt.
nikko
WADE, your reasoning is ridiculous!!! So, because straights find mother/daughter sex hot, that make it ok?! Huh? that’s disgusting!
Unbelievable.
Larry
I can’t help but wonder how many people going “Ewww, gross” are secretly turned on by this.
That said, I agree that there aren’t a lot of reasons given as to why it’s so repugnant. I mean, from a purely practical standpoint, there’s no risk of inbreeding, there’s no apparent power imbalance — so how is it wrong or harmful. They’re consenting adults who fell in love with each other. If it’s not your thing, then fine, but don’t pass judgment on them just because you, personally, would not want such a relationship.
Personally, I think the incest taboo should only apply in cases where there is a) coercion; b) a significant power imbalance; and/or c) a risk of inbreeding.
Otherwise, who cares? Remember that in a lot of cultures, it’s common for first cousins to marry each other, and that used to be common here as well.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@nikko:
Wade forgets one thing….
As the Salon article noted, these types of fantasies in the straight world are usually accompanied by a third-party straight guy who is on the receiving side of all of the attention. This is dramatically different.
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@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): I’d volunteer to be the 3rd one at that party!! :-p
Dawson
I’m not sure if I can see what is so wrong about incest. Perhaps its gross and disgusting and perhaps I am completely amoral. However, its someone you are very close to. Its someone you have been very close to for years (since you were children obviously) and will be very close to for years to come. Its definitely taboo, but in the end if you can hook up with a stranger you have no feelings for then why can’t you hook up with your brother you have loved and will love for all your life?
hephaestion
At some point you have to ask “Who does it hurt for them to be lovers” And the only possible answer is “No one.” So God bless them and best wishes to them.
whatever
I think I got it. Wanting someone who resembles you is narcissism. You are in love with yourself and want a clone to sex up.
On cruising sites, how often do you see profiles where people describe their stats and attributes, and end it with the expression “ub2”?
Twincest (or at least being ok with it) is like be most extreme and logical extension of that.
DR
@Damien:
You mean aside from the fact that emotionally healthy people do not have sex with their siblings? I’ve yet to meet any emotionally healthy ones who do. In my experience they usually end up in the criminal justice system.
Damien
@DR:Hmm…I don’t know what the statistics are, I don’t what behavior is customary in other cultures, and I’ve never met someone that has had voluntary sex with their siblings so I can’t have an opinion on the emotional health of these people. But that is a much better conversation worth having, especially with someone who either knows of someone like this or participates themselves, than simply stating its immoral and icky.
Hotspot
EEEEEEWWW!!! That’s just wrong and gross!! I also disagree, I think they are ugly!!
Bret
@Andrew:
Please do you self-appointed moralist twit!
Bret
@Casablancos: Exactly! The self-appointed moralist anti-sex zealot scum which infest this site is sickening!
LWJII
And this is our business because? Look you may not like the idea of two brothers twins or not getting it on, but how does that hurt your sex life? “Oh no two brothers are sleeping together, there goes my relationship.” Get a life people and stop worrying about what’s going on in other peoples bedrooms, are we now becoming like straight people? Sleeping with my brother has never crossed my mind, but if two consenting adults decide there they are in love who are we to judge.
Oh and if you don’t like it don’t watch it, no one’s forcing you too. But I do have to admit I did watch it and I thought it was hot, and you can really see the love they have for each other.
Andrew
@Bret: Hey Bret – settle petal. I did not judge anyone just simply stated that the idea of twins as lovers was not my cup of tea. Do not get your panties in a knot over something that was not stated or implied.
Bryan
@Baxter: So true, I don’t have a twin, but I have a brother close to my age, and any thoughts of sex with him almost makes me want to throw up.
suvariboy
So…twincest is okay but speedostudent jacking off on a desk in a classroom on campus is not. Really?
Jon
I think sex with and or between twins is absolutely hot! I had sex with twins on one occasion and, believe me, it was (and still is) fantasy material. These two men shared the same womb – naked. Why should they not get naked together out of the womb? Also, consider that each person knows how best to pleasure themselves, why wouldn’t your identical twin know how to do that best, too? If I had a gay twin, I would certainly entertain a relationship with him. I’m a pretty nice guy and very attractive. It so happens, I do have a gay older brother and we have had sex with each other. It was in a hot tub with two other guys – hot hot hot!
Lance
I am appalled by the people that are condemning this! All of you, you’re treating them just like our peers were treated or are being treated – discriminated because they consider ‘icky’ and ‘immoral’ what we do and who we are. You are all just as disgusting and bigoted as those that you call ‘bigots’.
No longer can I consider our community to be widely open-minded when we’re as infected with bigotry as Fred Phelps and his followers. Look at yourselves in the mirror before calling someone else a bigot.
I am happy that they found love, their lover being each other’s twin brother is irrelevant and in no way affects me.
JK
Personally this isn’t for me. Unlike others, I’m not going on a rant about morals and what is right and what is wrong. This simply isn’t my cup of tea. I can only think of the anguish these guys must have gone through to make them cross such a taboo line. When you strip away all of the sex and novelty, you must wonder what in the hell happened along the way. I wonder how people would feel if they were brother and sister or perhaps father and son.
Bisexual Vampire
cantstandthisbs, I agree with you. This pervert madness is why the majority population in the United States think all gays are freaks. It’s nasty to have any type of sex with your blood brother. It’s an abomination.
Jesse Helms
These perverted homosexual brothers will burn in hell for fornicating with each other. Not only is this immoral, it’s a crime against nature. I am speaking to losers that support incest from my grave in Raleigh, North Carolina. This is unnatural and ungodly.
Jon Bon Jovi
I don’t believe in incest an having sex with my grandmother, grandfather, brother, sister, mother, father, or 1st cousin.
Jon Bon Jovi
I don’t believe in an having sex with my grandmother, grandfather, brother, sister, mother, father, or 1st cousin.
This is nasty!
Jon
@Jesse Helms: From your grave? Are you really dead? Are you a spirit who has not gone to your heaven, yet? That’s confusing. You are going to come back as a toad in your next life.
You see, what you believe is not what everyone else believes. Just because you believe it doesn’t make it something you can shove down other’s throats. Believe what you wish, live your life as best you are able, and have some good lives as you are reincarnated. I don’t believe in using what I believe to belittle others.
Personally, your god doesn’t make any sense at all. Therefore, your “christian” morals are questionable, also. No one wants to listen to you when you say, “I have the real truth, believe as I do or you’re going to burn for eternity.” That reeks of a fear-based religion, not one based on love. I choose to have nothing to do with christianity for that reason. If anyone is going to your hell, it is those who attempt to control others through fear. Now, THAT IS IMMORAL!
AOG93
OK, others judge me so who am I to judge them? (And I don’t think it’s that bad… If they’re really into it…) Plus, don’t straight people have things that are totally more disturbing? (Remember that video on the internet a while back…?)
Frederick the Great
I would just like to be the guy who comes between them! (If ya know what I mean)
truepenny
Not my thing, but they can make their own choices. I can’t help but think that it’s not exactly healthy to want to basically have sex with yourself, but it’s not my business and I don’t really see what morality has to do with it.
I’m a bit turned off by all the comments suggesting that the Peters are giving the gay community a bad reputation – anyone who would see this and think it’s a “gay problem” is so ignorant they will probably be homophobes no matter what.
They have found a way to make money off their love and sexual attraction for each other – don’t put the burden of the whole gay community on them. I really don’t think it has much to do with it.
Sporfles
I have to say that I highly disagree with the ‘narcissistic’ viewpoints that people have with twincest. If you’re only focusing on looks? Sure, then, it’s narcissistic. But one point I’d like to bring up: twins who are identical in looks are not always identical in personality; I know a few twins and they could not be more different in personality. Is this the case with all of them? No.
I don’t think that these two bang (and ‘love’) each other because they want to be in love with another version of themselves. Identical or not, each person is an individual.
Nonetheless, I personally approve of twincest (both the love and the sex parts), whether you are identical or not. People are people. Judging them by saying they’re “wrong” before you’re in their shoes is just what a lot of people do to gays.
S. T. Newman
It would help a lot if their faces weren’t so incredibly ugly. (And if you see their skin closer, it’s a mess, too)
Ben
That there’s no chance of pregnancy is definitely more than half of the battle. The other is an unequal relationship. With twins, there’s an equal relationship that’s not there with older and younger brothers, or heaven forbid, father and son. I think twins having sex is beautiful, even right and proper. If there is such a thing as soulmates, twins are it. They’re made for each other. Their DNA is identical. It’s like the best masturbation possible. I’d be so happy to be one half of a pair of gay twins who were everything to each other.
Soupy
I am an identical twin. And the idea just makes me shudder. That’s just my twin perspective.
T.
@Casablancos: Fuck I don’t and I’m Bi. I have my moral limits when it comes to stuff like that. The idea of doing it with a blood relative makes my skin crawl. Sure they can’t have kids but if this is a trend then what next? Bestiality?
Dallas David
To ease the guilt of moralists —
The Old Testament allows not only polygamy, but it’s ok for a man to have sisters in his harem. Twins are ok, too.
The Bible draws the line at having both a woman and her daughter in your harem. I doubt there’s been much complaint about that from anyone — at least, I wouldn’t think so.
If if was rich enough to afford a gay male harem (stable?) I doubt that I’d consider keeping a man and his father in it. That would be too weird for me.
But twins or triplets who want to mate & live happily ever after? Sure, why not? I can’t think of any practical reason why they shouldn’t.
I wish them well.
Paul F
#22 unpopular; me too on ALL counts. That being said, what they do is none of my f’in buisness. If it’s right for THEM, then so be it. The only people on the planet besides themselves who have ANY right to complain are thier parents. Love is truely blind. Oh yes, while I’m here throwing gas on the fire, my spell checker doesn’t recognise the English language so all you wannabe English teachers out there put a cork in it when I slaughter my grammer and spelling. I’ve never seen such a bunch of snarkey comments when the writers make a typo or use the wrong word. (then/than thier/there etc.) Now I’m gonna watch the Visconti triplets bang these guys on x-tube. (Just yanking your chains on that last one, honestly!)
longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
If you find this morally wrong and ‘not [your] cup of tea’ then don’t have sex with your consenting twin brother. Simple.
playing the devil's advocate
I’m not going to state my opinion on if I think this is okay or not.
But I do have a question that I’m curious to see answers to.
Let’s assume for a second, that they are really, truly in love with one another.
In fact, let’s say we’re talking fraternal twins.
Same sex fraternal twins, who don’t look alike.
And are in love with one another?
Like, honestly have true blue romantic feelings and all of that business.
What are your thoughts on that?
T.
I’m all for love and all but the fact that they are related by blood just kills it for me. I can’t support such a thing but I won’t get in their way. It’s hard enough to be gay in this world but add incestuous to that and all kinds of crap happen.
Xeffy
I don’t believe that there is anything wrong with twincest and from what I’ve read those who are strongly disagreeing with it appear to be very narrow-minded and not able to even consider another persons perspective on the matter. I also have not read or heard any real proof as to why twincest is wrong! People just say with is sick, gross or against their religioin. I would like to know how it is against religion. I’m a Christian and I dont think there is anything wrong with it. If two twin males fall in love they should be allowed to express this love like non related humans can.
antonio
lets not pretend here…the world is a huge place,there will be tons of other twins who have done this but just dont tell anyone
NotSquicked
I, personally, am not bothered by gays, incest, twincest or anything like that. If they love each other then that’s not mine, yours or anybody else’s problem but their’s so but out! I personally wouldn’t want to sleep or be in a relationship other than the usual with my brothers because they do my head in, but I know some siblings are like best friends (plus my older brother is gay). I can understand why brother and sister relationships aren’t accepted, as any accidental babies could be deformed, but to me there isn’t anything wrong with homosexual incest, as if you split them up they will just be with someone of the same sex meaning, still there will be no children, so what would be the point? If people still can’t open there minds and see things for what they are, then that really shows that we haven’t made any progress and the animal kingdom is far ahead of us in that sense.
(I am Christian and can open my mind so why can’t any of your religious preachers and morons do the same)
NotSquicked
I, personally, am not bothered by gays, incest, twincest or anything like that. If they love each other then that’s not mine, yours or anybody else’s problem but their’s so but out! If you think doing anything sexual with your relatives is gross well then don’t do it with your relatives but what they do with there’s is not your problem and you aren’t the one doing it!
I wouldn’t want to sleep or be in a relationship other than the usual with my brothers because they do my head in, but I know some siblings are like best friends (plus my older brother is gay).
I can understand why brother and sister relationships aren’t accepted, as any accidental babies could be deformed, but to me there isn’t anything wrong with homosexual incest, as if you split them up they will just be with someone of the same sex meaning, still there will be no children, so what would be the point? If people still can’t open there minds and see things for what they are, then that really shows that we haven’t made any progress and the animal kingdom is far ahead of us in that sense.
(I am Christian and can open my mind so why can’t any of your religious preachers and morons do the same)
Ben
They seem genuinely in love and are incredibly hot. I don;t like most porn, in part because its usually pretty mechanical, but not with the Peters brothers. I’m happy for them. If other people don’t like them, then don’t watch their videos.
Jessica
Hmm…I’m torn about this. In fictional scenarios, twincest is hot, but when I see it in real life it’s a little disturbing. Probably because my brother and I have been compared to twins. If I think about it for too long I start getting paranoid. Which is really weird. Trust me.
Anon
No, dude, it’s still fricking gross. Even more gross, because they’re brothers and they look exactly the same.
Scottie71
Many of these comments reflect why we can’t overcome the rhetoric of the majority: even we have trouble abandoning our own respective dogmas and personal biases in favor of pure logic. I can only assume that many of the “it’s just WRONG” believers are expressing these illogical “arguments” because you’re either still drinking the Judeo- Christian KoolAid or you’re still trying to get it out of your systems after coming to your senses.
Consider the fact incest was not always condemned in the Old Testament. Why? If we are to believe biblical history while also considering evolution without our brains exploding, it makes sense that it took several generations for recessive genes to begin causing problems for the children of closely related individuals. But when those pesky defects started creeping in, someone had the brains to tell those cousin/ brother/ sister lovers to knock it the hell off. And if the second generation of humans had only the option of marrying a fellow child of Adam and Eve, well… they had to keep the family going somehow.
If you are not going to burden society with an extra- special needs child, and both (hell, Mormons, I would even submit “all”) parties are consenting human adults, love and make happy whoever you want!
samfw
@Tylertime: Wow, your post is freighted with ALL KINDS of judgement! So the twins are terrible, depraved, demented., etc because they do something you don’t endorse, but the finger wagging doesn’t stop there. You criticize the people commenting who don’t issue the same knee-jerk condemnation that you do.
Daggerman
…yes they’re on they’re way to being famous.
LeNair Xavier
The excuses given to praise this gives ammo to every Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, etc. on the planet. Because all your focus is on THE MOST STEREOTYPICAL THEREFORE SHALLOW aspects of the situation.
Until they went this route I also was enamored with these 2 having many a fantasy of being done by them both. That is until I heard and saw their first video of them doing each other. For the 2 of them having sex is worst than watching the Jarics from Falcon Studios. Both pairs exemplify the stereotypical gay narcissistic mindset of how every gay male wants to have sex with himself. The mentally-diseased part about the Peters twins that makes them worst than the look-alike Jarics is the fact that there’s an exchange of a naturally connected DNA strain.
http://www.tresx-rayvision.com/2010/01/peter-twins-sickness-kills-fantasy-joy.html
tarutan
I have a twin brother, we are both gay. When I tell people that there is naturally some excitement followed by the annoying question “have you guys ever had sex?”. I don’t understand the fascination. Have you had sex with your siblings? Why ask me if I’ve had sex with mine? In regards to the bel ami twins, this doesn’t sit well with me at all. They are taking their natural brotherly love that only comes from being born and growing up together, and tainting it with these misguided feelings of love and lust. I don’t frown upon twin porn, or even the occasional private trists, but to identify to each other as lovers is sad and I think they are just naive and will have to grow up.
Kenny1948
Some years ago, I had a friend. He had both a gay brother, and a gay father. From what I heard at the time. All three had sex together. The family that —-
What’s twiddles ones twaddle, isn’t necessarily for all. What I find about twins who have sex with other isn’t so much that they are brothers, it’s that they are identical. Isn’t that very narcissistic?
Kenny1948
@T.: What kind of crap could happen? They can’t have a baby.
GymJockTX
RE: Posting by: No. 122 · NotSquicked : Wow, I am amazed that this guy, who self identifies as “Christian” in his comments, speaks out in a positive, open minded and accepting way about the Peters twins and their lifestyles. No offense to Jesus people in general, but dipshits like Rick Santorum and that Cuccinnelli doofus up in Virginia sure make me have a knee jerk reaction of revulsion when I hear somebody self identify as an Evangelical type. So many of them are so full of hatred and judgment! And I’ve never been able to find any Bible passages in which Jesus was about hatred. Only love, as far as I’ve been able to determine.
I couldn’t agree more with NotSquicked. I’ve seen a lot of the Peters twins’ videos, including the first, groundbreaking one. I thought it was HOT. And the ones that followed, pairing them up in 3-somes and 4-somes, hotter still. So sue me! And like #123 Ben said, if you don’t like it, then don’t watch their videos!
I hope they’re both very happy (God knows they must be sexually happy as monogamous lovers, since they probably have somewhat of a Vulcan mind meld when they’re going at it–what could be more sexually hot than that?). As for their parents knowing and not being “happy” about it, I hope they accept these boys and still love them as their sons.
This whole issue has brought back words of wisdom a shrink I once went to shared with me about sexuality. He’s one of the wisest men I’ve ever known, and with one of the biggest hearts–and he’s an ex-Jesuit priest, who left the order after 17 years to marry and go on to a successful private practice as a psychologist/psychotherapist. About male sexuality, he said, “You can stick your dick in a woman, and have sex with her. Or you can get together with another man, and have two dicks together. Or you can cut a hole in the wall, and stick your dick in there, and fuck the wall. None of these is more nor less valid than the other. Sex is communication. Sex is ONLY communication. Nothing more, and nothing less than, COMMUNICATION.”
Amen, Doc!
And ROCK ON, Peter’s twins–best to you guys! (And thanks for sharing your hot lives on cam.)
Humberto Agostinho
Superlindinhos os irmãozinhos que fazem sexo, eu achei supergostoso, eles estão fazendo aquilo que gostam, estão felizes e gozando deliciosamente. Parabéns.
robho3
unsettling…..
jwtraveler
Wow. Gay people sure are a close-minded, moralistic, self-righteous and hateful bunch. I wonder how we are any different from the Rick Santorums, Pat Robertsons, Michelle Bachmanns and Ann Coulters. When and by whom were all these gay moralists anointed the arbiters of acceptable sexual behavior to replace the straight moralist arbiters of acceptable sexual behavior? And what are the criteria for evaluating the acceptability of sexual behaviors–other than the principle of: “What I do is normal; what others do is abomination.” So to this morality debate, I’ll add my criterion (singular): What’s the answer to the question, “Who does it hurt?”? If the answer is: “No one”, then it’s acceptable. I still may not like it, or find it creepy or unappealing or even disgusting, but if it doesn’t hurt anyone, then it’s NONE OF MY BUSINESS; OR YOURS!