The ACLU Will Help You Set Up A GSA And Sue Your School If It Forbids It

We’re glad the ACLU has offered this handy dandy video telling high schoolers how to set up a gay-straight alliance step-by-step. They even make sure to tell GSA-minded students to keep documentation, dates and names in case they have to come in and start kicking legal butt to help convince your school to allow a GSA to form. That’s good advice, especially since all schools aren’t so open to the idea.

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  • btseven

    …another reason to be a member of the ACLU!

  • the crustybastard


    Until the ACLU has the sense not to busy themselves defending the “rights” of the KKK to antagonize Holocaust survivors, the “rights” of the Westboro Baptists to antagonize gays, and the “rights” of corporate bigwigs to threaten union organizers, ima pass on signing up for the ACLU.

    Legal principles are not divorced from legal outcomes.

  • Kevin

    @the crustybastard: Because the Constitution doesn’t apply to people we don’t like, amirite?

  • the crustybastard


    No, because harassment doesn’t have anything to do with the free speech guaranteed under the First Amendment, you goddam simpleton.

  • Ethan

    Glad to see the discourse is as civil as ever… Good thing childish namecalling IS protected by the First Amendment!

    While crusty goes and works on that legal degree (or maybe takes the time to look up “harassment” in a simple dictionary) I guess I’ll have to double my donations to to the ACLU on his behalf.

    At least his handle is accurate.

  • the crustybastard


    Since you can’t attack my argument, you attack my spelling and supposed lack of credentials to speak on legal issues? Awesome!

    That’s called an “ad hominem,” and it’s a logical fallacy. As you evidently are unfamiliar with these things, it means your “argument” isn’t actually an argument, and you’re just talking shit. Moreover, what I said to Kevin has nothing to do with “childish namecalling [sic].” Kevin chose to misrepresent my point with an unnecessary element of smugness. If he chooses to engage in discourse by acting like a punk, I don’t owe him civility.

    Anyway, next time the WBC or KKK makes news, don’t forget to pop by and remind everyone how their “protests” are made possible by your generous donations.

    One fine thing; “harassment” IS the correct spelling, numbnuts.

    Either that, or everybody’s wrong except you.

  • Sam

    I dunno, I kinda like living in a country where we are ALL protected by the Constitution, regardless of our views. I mean, did you realize that the law that protects GSAs and makes it impossible for public schools to shut them down – the Equal Access Act – was actually proposed by Orrin Hatch and passed to allow Christian clubs to meet? But if the Christians get their clubs, then so do the gay kids.

    So I say good for the ACLU: protect everyone’s right to freedom of speech (& assembly)!

  • B

    No. 2 · the crustybastard wrote, “Until the ACLU has the sense not to busy themselves defending the “rights” of the KKK to antagonize Holocaust survivors …”

    If you mean the usually cited case, the ACLU defended the right of a Nazi organization to have a parade in a town in Illinois (Skokie) whose residents included a number of Holocaust survivors. The Nazi’s ended up being defended by a Jewish lawyer, and the ACLU lost a number of members to uphold legal principles. You can read a summary at http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/strwhe.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#Notable_historical_cases .

    The ACLU won, with the judge saying, “It is better to allow those who preach racial hatred to expend their venom in rhetoric rather than to be panicked into embarking on the dangerous course of permitting the government to decide what its citizens may say and hear … The ability of American society to tolerate the advocacy of even hateful doctrines … is perhaps the best protection we have against the establishment of any Nazi-type regime in this country.”

    Whether it was because of being defended by a Jewish lawyer, what the judge said, or some other unrelated reason such as lack of funding, the Nazis canceled their parade.

    So, while the ACLU defended our right to free speech, it really did not do the Nazis any favors in the process. If anything, it helped humiliate them. So did the judge.

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