At CPAC, the annual conference for right-leaning types who want to mingle with Rachel Maddow, attendees were asked a whole slew of questions in a straw (read: non-scientific) poll that will, for the next 48 hours of the blog news cycle, act as the arbiter of what conservative Americans are thinking about this very second. How seriously should we take the poll’s results? Not very: Ron Paul(!) scored the most votes for the Republican presidential nomination, ahead of the much-more-likely-in-real-life Mitt Romney. But hey, they asked folks about gay marriage, so let’s see what CPACkers said.
Not much. Just one percent of them said “stopping gay marriage” was among their priorities, and it appears the battle only made anyone’s second most important priority.
So how’d this poll get so skewed? By letting the kiddies vote in disproportionate numbers. Some 48 percent of the poll’s respondents were students.
Damn Ivy League liberals.
There was actually a higher percentage of students voting last year than this year (52% last year I think). Things are changing and people are waking up to the fact that Ron Paul wants individual liberty for us all and a economic future free of debt!
Both side got it wrong it is both spending and tax revenue that will pull us out of this hole, in the meanwhile look at all these people going to school who will be cut off from unemployment and forced to drop out of school:
Brian En Guarde
It’s ironic. Passing laws taking the time to carve gays out of other laws is something big intrusive government does, no? Huge offensive military escapades giving billions to make war in other countries is a big government fiasco, no? No check was too big for the government to write when Bush was in charge.
Conservatives love big government, don’t let them fool you. They just want government to oppress gays, shoot guns and protect the wealthy. If government can do those things and they can perceive the government as being “one of them,” they could care less how big it is.
@Mike: If Ron Paul becomes President, I’m requesting asylum in Canada.
Dug up this election time goodie…
“Pray a Paulinian is not flying the damn thing!”
Paramedics are desparately attempting to revive Maggot Gallagher who went into full cardiac arrest upon recieving this news………… : P
Mike in Asheville, nee "in Brooklyn"
@No. 6 Terrwill
Sorry Terrwill, but emergency veterinary technicians are not called paramedics. They are now deciding whether they should put the bitch down…. lol
Mike in Asheville, nee “in Brooklyn”: Thanks, I am now going to spend the next 15 minutes cleaning the coffee I spit onto my keyboard because of your post!! : P
The thing is, by attacking gays they are just hoping that people won’t notice that bad economy, and the fact that Congress is blocked and not doing anything. Why do you think the govts. in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia keep focusing on Isreal? Give your people something to think about so they don’t notice how poorly you’re running your own govt. Same thing.
The Ron Paul supporters booed the anti-gay bigot off the stage. They are young and socially liberal. I think the thing that need to be stated about the poll is that the fiscal condition of our country is paramount. Without that we collapse and gay marriage will be irrelevant to any discourse.
Brian En Gaurde said, “It’s ironic. Passing laws taking the time to carve gays out of other laws is something big intrusive government does, no? Huge offensive military escapades giving billions to make war in other countries is a big government fiasco, no? No check was too big for the government to write when Bush was in charge.
Conservatives love big government, don’t let them fool you. They just want government to oppress gays, shoot guns and protect the wealthy. If government can do those things and they can perceive the government as being “one of them,” they could care less how big it is.”
Is this why the Supreme Court made this decision? How expensive would it be to treat everyone equally? Did 12 men in a smoky room say, “Not yet.” I could see a time in the future that the corporate world could hold our equality out like a carrot. The gay community would support the party, but what is relinquished in turn? Would we be drawn into support of something that has never concerned us?
On a more serious note, There was this man who brought his dog into the Vet. The Veterinarian said, “I hate to inform you of this, but your dog is dead.” The guy said, “Dead? He can’t be!” The Vet said, “O.K.” and proceeds to invite a cat to saunter in. The cat went over to the dog and pried it’s lids open and stared for an intense moment. She looked up to the men, shook her head sadly, and then sauntered out. Soon, a Labrador enters, goes over, paws him, sniffs him, and then looks up, as if conveying bad news and goes on his way. The Vet said, “That will be 800 dollars.” The man burst out, “Eight hundred dollars…but this dog was dead!” “Yes”, said the Vet, “but after the cat scan and the lab test…..”
Mike in Asheville, nee "in Brooklyn"
@No. 8 Terrwill
WARNING: Put the coffee down!
Not too long ago I spit coffee onto my laptop upon reading a comment at Joe.My.God. also about Maggot Gallagher!
Last fall, as Maggot was throwing Carrie Prejean under the bus over the sex tapes, canceling Carrie’s NOM appearances, Maggot tried to show her sorry excuse of compassion. “Can’t someone please say something nice about Carrie?” Maggot inquired.
Taking up the challenge, one of Joe’s blog buddies, responded:
“Okay. Nice tits!”
I spit coffee everywhere. Have a great day Terrwill.
The Ron Paul fanatics are more organized as he is one candidate certain to run in 2012 after a strong showing in his 2008 Presidential candidacy. He will likely run as a third party (Tea Party?) candidate, especially if Mayor Mike Bloomberg doesn’t step in on the Independent ticket…..like if Obama comes after New York.
The GOP is probably the only employer left of college graduates given the lack of experience required to defeat the Democrats in 2010 (mid-terms) and 2012 and how bad the economy is (and still getting…) CPAC seems only 1% obsessed with stopping Gay Marriage but those anti-gay ballot measures sure come around every election cycle…
To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Any educated Christian would know that. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.
Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.
This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God’s will.
For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.
Gay, Straight Men’s Brain Responses Differ
There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.
And it should also be noted that:
“It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organizations do believe it is impossible to change a person’s sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association.”
The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.
From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.
The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.
America’s premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.
This was taken from another poster that shows why we need to legalize gay marriage. If you don’t feel for this person after reading it, you simply aren’t human.
“I am not sure what our President thinks of this dicission but coming from a poor family and knowing what discrimination is all about I would assume he would not care if “Gays” have equal rights. The whole reason why they are asking for rights to be considered married is from the same reason why I would be for it. My own life partner commited suicide in our home with a gun to his heart. After a 28 year union I was deprived to even go his funeral. We had two plots next to each other. But because we did not have a marriage cirtificate “(Legal Document)” of our union his mother had him cremated and his ashes taken back to Missouri where we came from. That is only one example how painful it is. His suicide tramatized me so much and her disregard for my feelings only added to my heartach. That happened on March 21 of 2007 and I still cannot type this without crying for the trauma I have to endure each day. Oh did I mention I am in an electric wheelchair for life? Yes I am and it is very diffacult to find another mate when you are 58 and in a wheelchair. “
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