Last week, Michael Sam suggested to paparazzi that he was forced out of the NFL for being gay.
“Do you think with you coming out it affected your ability to play?” he was asked.
“I was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year last year,” Sam replied. “So I don’t think it had to do with talent.”
Excuse us, Michael. We know enough about sports to know that being a college star is no guarantee of going pro. The world is filled with young athletes who thrived in high school or college ranks but were just not quite good enough to make it to the next level.
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On the other hand, we’d be foolish to dismiss the idea that discrimination played no role in his at least temporary demise. Outright discrimination aside, the pressure of the added scrutiny he faced as a historic first could not have been easy for him or for those around him.
After we posted the story, Queerty readers were quick to take issue with the idea that discrimination led to his football demise.
“Mr. Sam is right,” commenter BJ McFrisky wrote, “it’s not about his talent, it’s about his lack thereof.”
“The two teams that gave him a chance seem to have had legitimate reasons to cut him,” commenter mjwatts added. “I don’t think they should’ve been forced to keep him or anything.”
“I feel like he tried to make [his sexuality] a ‘thing’ instead of remaining humble that he was drafted,” Derec Flowers on Facebook opined. “He definitely had the talent though. But he seemed like he was playing for the wrong reasons.”
So what the hell happened? Is he just another athlete not quite good enough to play in the NFL, or was he brought down by something larger than himself?
Let’s take a look back at Michael Sam’s rise and fall since he first came out in February:
February 2014
Under the guidance of publicist Howard Bragman, the 24-year-old Sam, then a defensive lineman from Missouri Tigers, made headlines when he came out in interviews with both the New York Times and ESPN.
“I just want to make sure I could tell my story the way I want to tell it,” he told reporters. “I just want to own my truth.”
The NFL was quick to issue a response: “We admire Michael Sam’s honesty and courage. Michael is a football player. Any player with ability and determination can succeed in the NFL. We look forward to welcoming and supporting Michael Sam in 2014.”
And just like that, a star was born.
March 2014
Sam wasted no time merchandising. One month after coming out, he launched an online store selling official rainbow colored “Stand With Sam” merchandise, including t-shirts and buttons ranging from $21.99 to $100.
April 2014
Sam was listed as #9 on OUT magazine’s Power 50 list, alongside folks like Rachel Maddow, Andy Cohen, Ellen Degeneres, and Anderson Cooper. Meanwhile, six NFL teams expressed interest in possibly drafting him.
May 2014
May was a big month for Sam.
First, he was picked up by the St. Louis Rams, making him the first openly gay athlete to be drafted by a professional sports team. ESPN was there to film Sam as he got the news. The network broadcast him kissing his boyfriend, Vito Cammisano, which, naturally, led to a media shit storm, during which homophobe Amy Kushnir became a household name for a hot minute.
Around that same time, Sam inked his first endorsement deal with Visa. He also appeared on Good Morning America, where he said he considered himself “a beacon for other athletes who may be gay.” And later that month, Oprah announced plans for a “multi-part documentary series” about him to be produced by OWN.
June 2014
This was another big month for Sam.
After it was reported that he was getting along with his new teammates swimmingly (“They respect me as a human being and as a football player,” he told the press), on June 12, Sam signed a four-year, $2.65 million contract with the Rams.
“Thank you to the St. Louis Rams and the whole city of St. Louis,” he tweeted after inking the deal. “I’m using every once of this to achieve greatness!!”
That same month, he was also named “Top Gay Icon” by the dating app Jack’d.
July 2014
Adoring boyfriend by his side, Sam once again made headlines, this time for his moving speech while accepting the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPYs.
“To anyone out there, especially young people feeling like they don’t fit in and will never be accepted,” he said, “know this: great things can happen when you have the courage to be yourself.”
He also posed for a photo shoot the August cover of Out magazine. And his football jersey became the sixth most sold of the season across the entire NFL.
By the end of the month, however, rumors that Sam wasn’t performing well during practice began to surface. It was reported that he was “not quick, fast, or agile enough” and that his celebrity was becoming too much of a “distraction.”
August 2014
ESPN, the same network that broadcast him getting the news that he had been drafted to play for the St. Louis Rams, ran a story about Sam’s showering habits.
Josina Anderson reported that Sam often waited to shower alone after practice. Being the curious young journalist that she is, Anderson investigated the issue further. She asked others why they thought Sam didn’t like showering with his teammates. She found there could be “a million different reasons,” including that maybe he was off “riding his bike.”
Two weeks later, Sam was cut by the Rams. Some suggested he was dropped from the team because he was gay, but coach Jeff Fisher emphasized that “It was a football decision and it was no different than any other decision that we make.”
September 2014
48 hours after being let go from the Rams, Sam was scooped up by the Dallas Cowboys for its practice squad, which is sort of a minor league for football players.
“I’m just looking forward to being a Cowboy,” Sam told the Daily Mail. “My focus is on making the team.”
Rumors swirled that the NFL begged the Cowboys to sign Sam but Jerry Jones, the team’s owner, denied the claim, telling a local Dallas radio station, “We were not [contacted].”
Days later, it was reported that Sam was impressing his new team with his “quickness.”
October 2014
Seven weeks later, the Cowboys waived Sam.
“I want to thank the Jones family and the entire Cowboys organization for this opportunity, as well as my friends, family, teammates and fans for their support. While this is disappointing, I will take the lessons I learned here in Dallas and continue to fight for an opportunity to prove that I can play every Sunday,” Sam tweeted following his release.
November 2014
Despite being cut from two teams, GQ magazine named Sam “Game Changer of the Year.” During his interview with the publication, he expressed misgivings over his decision to come out in such a public way back in February.
“If I had it my way, I never would have done it the way I did,” Sam said in a subtle jab at Bragman. “[I] never would have told it the way I did.”
When asked to elaborate, Sam explained: “I would have done the same thing I did at Mizzou, which was to tell my team and my coaches and leave it at that. But the recruiters knew, and reporters knew, and they talked to each other and it got out. If I didn’t have the year I did, nobody would have cared. But I have no regrets. Some people can argue that I had the potential to go higher in the draft. But I think everything happens for a reason.”
December 2014
Sam echoed the sentiment expressed in his GQ interview when he suggested that he was dropped from the NFL for being gay.
Shortly after the story broke, he took to Twitter to clarify his statements: “Despite what headlines you may read, I’ve never said and have never believed that I am being kept out of the league. I know I have talent to play in the NFL and I look forward to getting an opportunity once again to prove that I can help a team win.”
It remains to be seen what’s next for Michael Sam. Will he prove his worth in the NFL? Or will he simply go down in the books as just another guy who didn’t make the team?
Graham Gremore is a columnist and contributor for Queerty and Life of the Law. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.
Trippy
Seriously, Queerty? YOU QUOTE BJ MCFRISKY, of all people??!!??!! He’s the worst of internet trolls and a self-hating homosexual who never met a gay-bashing preacher he doesn’t want to invite over for dinner. Ugh.
Ladbrook
Michael Sam has been a household name and gay icon for less than a year, and Queerty assigns him to the trash heap of cultural has-beens with the likes of Debbie Gibson, Riverdance, and the Walkman. Nice. Real nice.
@Trippy: An apt observation, but you failed to mention that he trolls under multiple names (“jason smeds” being his other favorite handle.)
Stache99
@Ladbrook: and we can’t forget his latest gem..”black and hiv positive”:)
Mack
I thought I heard that the Arena Football league was looking at him? I’m not sure where I read it, but at least it would help him keep in shape.
Stache99
I’m no expert but it does seem to follow a clear path. The other players ousted (Chris Kluwe and Brendon Ayanbadejo) say that it had everything to do with being gay rights activists.
Saint Law
@Ladbrook: @Stache99: Nope, Jason’s smeds is a sock puppet of the same shitpot responsible for Jim Bryant, Micheal Mellor and, possibly, Black and HIV Positive.
I don’t even think BJ uses another profile – he posts quite enough mental under just the one.
That said, it was perfectly appropriate for Queerty to quote him in the context of its snide, creepy hatchet job.
Because after all what has Sam achieved? He hasn’t shacked up with a wealthy older man he isn’t attracted to, nor released a series of bareback sex tapes to ‘raises his profile’, or endless semi nudies on instagram.
Kieran
Looking back historically, one can speak authoritatively on “The Rise and Fall” of the Roman empire or the British empire or the Third Reich, but isn’t it a bit premature to write an epitaph for a 24 year old man who is very much alive and well? Especially one that possesses the courage and tenacity of a Michael Sam.
AtticusBennett
quite frankly any site that posts a quote from an Anonymous-And-Closeted-Coward about an openly-gay vanguard has just confirmed its own uselessness.
breaking news! insecure cowards who aren’t openly gay like to post snarky B.S. about people who are stronger than them.
yeah. no s**t.
Saint Law
Queerty: edited by trolls.
Kangol
I love that Queerty quoted McFrisky, who never has a kind word for his fellow gays, if he can help it.
Meanwhile, great job taking a few smacks at Michael Sam. He’s the brave one who came out when none of his peers would (cf. Kerry Rhodes, Aaron Rodgers, etc.), and he deserves the credit for it.
Others will follow, and eventually they’ll look back and thank him or, as so often happens, just assume that his courage action wasn’t needed because the improved conditions were always that way.
Cam
So 95% of the comments were favorable towards Sam and yet Queerty quoted BJ? I find that interesting since the one thing he is known for is defending every anti-gay bigot, and usually blaming the gay person for anything that happens to them.
Is this some sort of trick to get page views or does the author just not like Sam?
jwtraveler
A friend who knows a lot more about this than I do concurs with what was said in the article, that being a star college player does necessarily mean success in the NFL. Even some Heisman Trophy winners have failed in the NFL. It’s unfortunate that he’s blamed anti-phobia for what happened. It seems that 2 teams gave him a fair chance. While homophobia can never be completely discounted, he was clearly a victim of the hype. In today’s world, it’s impossible for a gay pro athlete to be judged solely on his talent. I hope that Michael Sam’s experience is a step toward a day when that will happen. Until then, I wish Sam success in life, in or out of football.
jwtraveler
“anti-phobia”? I meant “anti-gay sentiment” or “homophobia”.
Cam
@jwtraveler:
Yeah, being a college star DOESN’T guarantee it, HOWEVER, when every single other non-gay SEC defensive player of the year goes several rounds before him, and people who had similar or worse stats are still playing you don’t get to use that argument anymore.
Boricuaex
I feel it’s too early to say whether the sun has already set on Michael Sam. I mean, he’s still a young man and things can certainly change perhaps not in the ways that we would like to see it. What I think we should all be focusing on is the fact that Michael Sam is a beacon for all those athletes, now and those who are up and coming, for the struggle that gays have had to endure from the moment they realize that they, or we, are not like others.
I think that NFL is close, very close, to knocking down those barriers. When that will happen is anybody’s guess but I suspect that Michael Sam will return triumphantly one day in the not so distant future.
jason smeds
There’s a homophobic culture within the NFL. One of the main reasons is that there are many blacks in the NFL. Black culture, as a whole, is not gay-friendly. It’s ironic because Michael Sam, himself, is black.
What we are seeing is black-on-black bigotry. Black culture shuts down anybody who is not a 100% heterosexual male. Some of the most anti-Michael Sam comments in the NFL have come from black people.
Cam
@jason smeds:
Except for the fact that the coaches who do the picking are white. But nice try BJ.
jaleoman
What’s wrong with queerty? that always have to attack our own stars?
Others minorities would never do that, they support each other and their
People, that’s why they are stronger than the gay community. Instead
Supporting Michael Sam, that is obviously going through some
Difficult time, now queerty is bashing him.
Such a shame of queerty.
onthemark
Ha – looking forward to seeing BJ’s reaction to this thread.
But I see that “jason” (with or without his “meds”) is unfazed, as always. Although I’m a little surprised he didn’t drag the cheerleaders and/or the “liberal perverts” into it.
SteveDenver
I missed the “Fall” in this article.
What is Michael Sam’s shame or scandal or failure? Nothing.
Michael Sam made history. Those who FOLLOW HIM will jump a little higher, run a little further, and possibly face less resistance since those bigots have already sounded off and their objections won’t be news anymore.
Luckychico
He just could not play! That’s why he didn’t get drafted at the ceremony! He was and ok player! Case closed….he just could not keep up. He was to caught up In being a celebrity well D-list he wasent all that. He thought he was legendary status when you haven’t even played a game alredy charging $100 for merchandise really. And I met him here in NYC his Entourage was so rude and wore sparkling gold suites and where rude yelling at elderly people to get out of there way! He thought he was to good to be spoken too ignoring children that wanted his autograph he thought he was a bigger deal than he was I don’t know who it was I made a comment to them to stop being rude I found out who they where I was like ewwwww…..really good he got cut! Be a little bit more humble
Gothrykke
Two words, Mr. Gremore: Ray Rice.
You have to look no further than Tony Dungy and his comments about both these men to invalidate everything you’ve stated and implied about the failure of Michael Sam’s career this season. There were no legitimate reasons given for his dismissal both in the draft and by both teams. It always came back to his sexual orientation and the bigotry of the people who run the NFL corporations.
Now knock it off, troll.
jjose712
This article is pure crap. Everybody knew he was going to be drafted before coming out, but after coming out he wasn’t that good anymore and he should not be drafted (and you can cite BJ MCFRISKY here too).
He did a good preseason, almost anyone with his numbers was on contract but he can barely find a practise field.
Noone of the people who claim the distraction that hire Michael Sam would be say the same about the rapist, child and wife beaters that populate the NFL.
If he didn’t open his mouth to come out he will be in a team for sure.
I hope he will play in Canada. There he won’t have to deal with the childish players that populate the NFL who will shit in their pants if the have to be in the locker room with a gay man.
And frankly, there are a lot of this type of shit in sports forums, i don’t need to read that kind of self deprectating crap on a gay site. Enough with playing the uncle tom card queerty
o.codone
Why do I feel that Vito Cammisano is a screamer? The same thing made Madelyn Kahn sing. Anyway, there’s time to leak a video now boys, so get to it.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@Trippy: “Seriously, Queerty? YOU QUOTE BJ MCFRISKY, of all people??!!??!! He’s the worst of internet trolls and a self-hating homosexual who never met a gay-bashing preacher he doesn’t want to invite over for dinner. Ugh.”
Besides you bitch! Tell the truth! Change your name to Trippin’, and you would be telling the truth all the way around!
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@Stache99: “and we can’t forget his latest gem..”black and hiv positive”:)”
Actually I would be my own person you scared bitch! Face facts: you do rub more than one person the wrong way, and are just trying to make it look like you made friends with everybody else in the meanwhile. Must be lonely in your little dark room.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@AtticusBennett: Bye cutie!
DarkZephyr
@AtticusBennett: Aw c’mon, don’t let BJ push you out. You along with Cam are one of the few people who’s posts I actually enjoy in a sea of snarky a**holes who suck at being supportive of their LGBT brothers and sisters.
DarkZephyr
@I’m Black, and HIV-Positive.: Your comments here do little to refute the suggestion that you are an incarnation of BJ McFrisky. Especially since you seem bound and determined to defend him. The only person who ever defends BJ is BJ.
jimontp
@Kangol: Kangol got it right, by bringing up the way Aaron Rodgers has responded. The established great QB of the Packers, who was questioned about the legal case brought by his male, 3 year, live-in “personal assistant,” always at his side at social events. Rodgers famously declaimed, “I really, really like women.” The PA was paid off, dropped his palimony suit, and Rodgers is having a spectacularly good year. So if his team makes it to the SuperBowl, and during those two weeks of constant media attention, Rodgers trots out his latest “beard,” or tells us again how he “really, really likes women,” you’ll see how the NFL expects gay players to conform.
Michael Sam is a brave gay man. Whether it cost him an NFL career is still a question, but he WILL have a career, he will have a successful life, not least of all because he came out and is free to live an open and rewarding life.
I suspect Aaron Rodgers, movie star handsome, all pro, maybe hall of fame player, may have lived his life as a coward.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
Blah, blah, blah. All these queens bitching about sports. First of all, the gay media is to blame for Sams feeling the pressure for doing such a hairbrained thing as coming out as a gay man before entering the NFL in the first place. But to call him out like this is just plain two faced. Not that much more can be expected of you. That’s “you plural” dumbasses. If the gay community isn’t two faced then I just coined a new term. And…
“Excuse us, Michael. We know enough about sports to know that being a college star is no guarantee of going pro.”
Hateful bitches. Follow your own advice, and get some therapy already. Like you convinced anybody of any of that so far. But you clearly needed Michael Sams to even make that assertion in the first place rasists.
jimontp
@kodi_kanuck: I got the same questionnaire. But they didn’t include any questions about the nasty epitaphs or name calling that’s allowed in the comments. Calling Michael Sam’s partner Vito a “screamer,” or referring to another person who posted as a “bitch,” is not only childish and rude. It demeans the whole site. Isn’t there a moderator who screens comments to eliminate unnecessary, vicious, inarticulate responses? That would have been a much more appropriate question on how to improve this site.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@DarkZephyr: BJ? I have no idea who you’re even referring to, and thanks for proving to be a two faced asshole after I thought you were asking me to tell the reason why I hated “Looking” on HBO in earnest. Maybe you fake bitches should learn how to be better people, so that you don’t make so many enemies. All this name/profile sharing accusations is only a testament to how weak all of you coward bitches are. I have every right to call out Stache and Trippy as being assholes, and if you got a problem with that then maybe YOU’RE THEM BITCH! Clearly you douche bags aren’t as popular as you think you are, and it’s about time you knew that.
Ladbrook
@I’m Black, and HIV-Positive.:
You seem to operate under the impression that this blog has a whites-only perspective and that most of us in the comments section are either bigots or worse – so why, I ask, do you spend so much time here? I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s curious. Enlighten us, please.
jmmartin
There’s no “Fall” (as in “Rise and….”). Mr. Sam should take some acting lessons and find work in film. I would cast him in a New York nanosecond. He’s a whole lot better looking than the current crop of black actors; after all, Denzel is, what, 60, and Samuel L. Jackson is doing credit card commercials on TV. Not to dis age (hey, I’m septuagenarian) or “selling out” (leveled at people you’re envious of), I am just pointing out that Michael would make a good leading man or a sidekick in the right movie. Go for it, dude!
Saint Law
@I’m Black, and HIV-Positive.: Swanee how I love you, how I love you
My dear old Swanee
I give the world to be
Among the folks in D-I-X-I
Even though my mammy’s
Waiting for me
Praying for me
Down by the Swanee
The folks up north will see me no more
When I get to that Swanee shore
blackberry finn
He should not mope about his bad luck, but focus on making more luck for himself. Seven times fall, eight times up again, Good luck, man!
tham
Hmm, let me think, before Sam came out, he was unanimous All American, voted to SEC first team and voted SEC Defensive player of the year and was predicted to go somewhere in the 3rd round.
And just for those who don’t know, SEC is by far, the strongest college football conference.
After coming out, he was drafted in the 7th round (no explanation for the massive drop). Then cut from the practice squads.
Usually, when this happens, you hear about his “slow” forty dash numbers, weigh or strength issues or frankly ANY reason.
But none of that…if it wasn’t because he was openly gay…then what the hell was the reason.
jockjack5
He played college ball in a very mediocre and un-challenging conference, so while he was an MVP in this environment, he was simply not good enough to play in the National Football League.
As a gay man, I was full of pride and happy about him coming out this past spring, but as an avid football fan, the scouting reports about him being “too small and too slow” were a concern about his ultimately making it in the NFL.
Thanks for an insightful article Queerty.
I was not aware of Sam’s money-grabbing self-promotion marketing attempts and found this to be rather unseemly, but all-in-all, this young man is simply another in a long line of marginally talented athletes who simply was not good enough to be a professional. He simply happened to be gay.
Saint Law
@jockjack5: You’re very welcome, Graham. I mean ‘jock’.
tham
@jockjack5:
What are you talking about? SEC is THE hardest conference. Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn, Texas AM…
Wow, I mean that’s like calling Peyton Manning a very mediocre QB…
Obvoiusly you know NOTHING about football,
MarionPaige
One of the things you must show in order to make a legitimate charge that you were discriminated against because you are gay is that the potential employer knew of your gayness.
Now, an argument can be made that if you know that all of the potential employers know from gossip that you are gay, THEN, it might make legal sense to publicly announce that you are gay and have that FACT on the table (established). However,
Michael Sam publicly announcing that he is gay COULD and possibly was viewed as a legal threat by some of this potential employers as Sam had established the first step of a discrimination charge, i.e., that the employers knew of Sam’s gayness.
Yet another reason why THE FUCKING OUT MOVEMENT is as much fucking brain damage as THE FUCKING GAY MARRIAGE MOVEMENT.
Michael Sam was a standout in a profession in which his race was NOT a barrier and, what did the idiot do? He deliberately created another barrier for himself.
tham
@jockjack5:
Here, I know people like citations here
http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
Here is this year final poll…notice the #1 team is of course a SEC Team…but mostly, there’s 7 (half the conference)SEC teams in the top 25.
Very Mediocre…more like talking out of your ass cause you’re trolling
pjm1
Being gay in the NFL would be/is a huge deal.
This is certain b/c there is almost no doubt there are gay NFL players in the
league right now. One of them may have been a former league MVP. So, if
established players who know the league do not come out that says a great
deal with how they believe they would be treated.
For Michael Sam it is likely a combination of issues. If Sam was a superstar
caliber player he would certainly have been signed and drafted early. But at
this point in time for as great an athlete Sam is, to compete at the NFL level is something
beyond.
jar
@MarionPaige: Trying to paint coming out as a legal threat and therefore presumably a rationale for staying in the closet. Okay, Marion, whatever helps you sleep at night. But as the old saying goes, the truth will out. Don’t let your truth come out by being caught on your knees in a public restroom with your mouth full. That would be far worse than the simple act of acknowledging who you are with the simple words, I’m a gay man.
Silas Wegg
This is so mean-spirited, homophobic, and raci$t; it’s sick. Rest assured that if white boy Tom Daley doesn’t qualify for the next Olympics, Queerty’s coverage that will take a different tone.
iluvcakes
@Luckychico:
I always hear people saying stuff like this but the fact is before he announced he was gay he was a top draft pick and he announces and immediately he fell 70 spots!!? (An important fact this article fails to mention) That speaks volumes.
You really do need to read in between the lines. How does he go from top MVP player to all of a sudden not fast enough, not agile enough, and not talented enough? It’s BS. I suggest to people who thinks he lacks performance should rent “Play Makers” and check out how those players reacted to a gay team mate.
Sam probably would never say “They discriminated against me or made me feel unwelcome” doing so would further alienate his chances and make him seem weak in a sport which emphasizes the exact opposite. But best believe it is QUITE easy to sabotage a player , especially when he never actually played against a team but rather against his own teams and that is what gauges his performance? Look at the reaction of Cowboys fans when it was announced at the sheer possibility of him joining? You People can’t be that naive..
Paco
The circus created by the media and activists really hurt his career. The Oprah nonsense probably didn’t help either.
ChgoReason
I doubt it is homophobia keeping him from playing in the NFL. I mean the Most Christian Tim Teabow was Heisman Trophy winner and didn’t get included into the league due to social standing. I mean, it all comes down to talent.
TriForceKid1013
@tham: Actually there was a reason for his drop in the draft one was his lack of size to be a pro lineman and his lack of cover skills to be a linebacker couple with a poor combine. So it wasn’t out of the blue that he dropped to the 7th.
queerwhizkid
Well, so like letz be really real…the NFL wanted a quieter, less activist, more “i am lucky to be here” queer. And that’s not what Sam was doing. he and his boyfriend were very cute together and there was a lot of on camera effecion that rubbed homophobs and even not so homophobs the wrong way. Sometimes yu havta be a little humble whn ur the first of yur ilk to get a shot. But i agree tht most people in NFL were concerned; and homophobia and a lot teasing involving gay slander (faggot is a common term in straight male sports locker-rooms and its definition is meant to be the equivalent of asshole, wimp or idiot). But there were some real football issues. Sam lacked the ability to keep pursuit after being initially blocked which meant he relied more on speed than strength and you have to have both in the NFL unlike college where you can be so much faster and smarter that its not that important. He was also a bit undersized for a lineman and too big for a def back. It is one of the main reasons that good pass rushers in college don’t make the pros.
TriForceKid1013
@iluvcakes: He was never projected to go that high I don’t think he was ever projected higher than the 3rd and again after his pro combine showing that put him in the 3-5 round range.
queerwhizkid
I agree Tri..im seein a dude who knws all this football draft shit… adn yur right on
queerwhizkid
@TriForceKid1013: Nods yepperz
TriForceKid1013
@queerwhizkid: Thanks I see you know your stuff too. I’m glad to see someone can see both sides of the situation instead of focusing on just 1 aspect of it.
queerwhizkid
@TriForceKid1013: thnks…there r at leaat 2 side to all things
queerwhizkid
my ability type on my phon with out lookng at th keypad deterioiats after 11pm …sorry
TriForceKid1013
@queerwhizkid: Don’t worry about it I’m on my phone too so I know how you feel.
TriForceKid1013
@queerwhizkid: Some people don’t see it that way even when you lay it out in front of them they only see one side of this issue.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@Ladbrook: You seem to operate under the assumption that everything I say to someone else involves you. So enlighten us how you came to be so much of a bitch. I suggest you stop overstepping your bounds bitch. With the way you act I’ve yet to understand what makes you a gay man either. Stick that in your lunch box cracker!
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@Saint Law: The answer’s still no. It hurts being rejected by a lowly black man doesn’t it cracker?
enlightenone
@Saint Law: Your MATURITY, awareness, intelligence, and WISDOM is much needed on this blog given the likes of clowns commenting on this blog who get to hide behind avatars and handles like the narcissist and sociopath who drive cars w/dark, tinted windows!
Tracy Pope
Wow, my post was just too on the mark. It was removed. Oddly, the hate and vitriol flows unabated.
DarkZephyr
@I’m Black, and HIV-Positive.: Your rage-filled ad hominem laced response to my observation is a little baffling to me though perhaps in retrospect I can understand why my post would irritate you (and I apologize for that) but I feel that you defintely overreacted in the massive extreme. What baffles me further is your use of ra*ist slurs like “cracker” against those you assume are white. I guess I always believed you were against rac*sm rather than a perpetrator of it because you have always seemed to speak out against it. Very dissapointing. It also makes your accusation against me of being two-faced a little hypocritical if you ask me.
Saint Law
@DarkZephyr: He is a cracker tho. An ageing suburban white cracker who gets his jollies doing this berserk Uncle Remus act.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@DarkZephyr: “Your rage-filled ad hominem laced response to my observation is a little baffling to me”
Yeah, and you also meant to write: “Oh. Oh. And I am stretching myself to lexicon of my superior upper white class vocabulary.” Yeah. And I’m so sure it is baffling to you bitch! But you’ll take a bitch slap all the same, because you know that’s what you deserve for your two facedness. Now I suggest you stop trying to cozy up just to turn into a two faced coward bitch like you won’t get what’s coming to you next. And stop reading my shit acting like I’m referencing your bitch ass directly, or indirectly with your loser ass. You’re just a no face razist cracker spewing hatred behind a computer screen chump!
“though perhaps in retrospect I can understand why my post would irritate you (and I apologize for that) but I feel that you defintely overreacted in the massive extreme. What baffles me further is your use of ra*ist slurs like “cracker” against those you assume are white. I guess I always believed you were against rac*sm rather than a perpetrator of it because you have always seemed to speak out against it. Very dissapointing. It also makes your accusation against me of being two-faced a little hypocritical if you ask me.”
But then you’ll say anything to salvage your own down-troddened image at this point won’t you bitch, because you’re really the one who shaped up to be the real disappointment here didn’t you? So, you know what you can do with your own hypocritical two faced claims bitch? You know of anyplace where the sun don’t shine? Well, you simply take your bullshit, and you stick em right in there. I suppose you’re one of those razist bitches on this site who think all the people who hate you must be the same person. Pathetic. No, a lexicon of people really don’t like you (gay ones too), and you need to take note of that rasists.
And did you really just cry my a river for me, because only you should be allowed to use rasist epithats? Are you serious? It never fails to amaze with your types. And I suppose you also don’t think of yourself as being implicitly rasist for hoping that all of your ni**er friends would just conform to all of your razist double standards in the first place too then huh. I’ve met your type before. Coward bitches who claim they’re standing on the frontlines with you, but it’s only lip service. They just want some “street cred”, and a good laugh. Well, if razism is the only thing that you understand bitch then why you mad about it now? And you know where you can stick your double standards too bitch. Ha ha ha! Afterall, if you don’t like the taste of your own medicine then maybe you should try switching recipes bitch. You never heard that one before?
You sound like one of those fake bitch atheists I argue with over the internet, and they say through tears, “Waa! Waa! You’re a Christian. So that means that you shouldn’t be allowed to use words like you do to fight me back. Waa! Waa!” Maybe not bitch, but I fight the good fight, and I still win. The end always justifies the means you coward bitch! The fuck makes you think it’s so cool to pick “easy fights” with people anyway?
You’re getting exactly the fight with a Black Gay Christian that you were looking for you coward bitch. Don’t get scared now cracker!
DarkZephyr
@I’m Black, and HIV-Positive.: You are absolutely bat sh*t crazy. I mean you are OFF your rocker completely and need to seek out mental health. As far as I am concerned, you’re dismissed. You no longer exist to me.
enlightenone
@Cam: “Is this some sort of trick to get page views or does the author just not like Sam?”
Could be both, but I chalk it up to inept, so-called “journalism!”
DarkZephyr
@Saint Law: I believe that more now than ever. The guy is a complete lunatic and “berserk” isn’t even a strong enough word for it. He isn’t scary however, just very very sad.
Trippy
@DarkZephyr: What’s most baffling to a lot of us is that Q continues to let him post his crazy rants. At some point, Q is going to lose readers because of this unmedicated lunatic. It makes me wonder why I even bother to wade into the comments section anymore. Between him, smeds, marionpage, and BJ… well, it barely seems worth the effort.
I feel especially badly for Cam, Ladbrook, DarkZephyr, Saint Law, Atticus, and a couple of others, all of whom seem to offer the most intelligent responses on the comments feed but who have become the idiot’s favorite targets. It’s all very sad.
stranded
There has to be a reason why 2 teams picked him up and later dropped him. Maybe he’s getting a big head? Since he did come out and it did garner so much media attention, do you think that hurt him in the end? Not so much his sexuality but his new found fame while he was still only a NFL hopeful?
Kangol
@jmmartin: He’s a whole lot better looking than the current crop of black actors; after all, Denzel is, what, 60, and Samuel L. Jackson is doing credit card commercials on TV. Not to dis age (hey, I’m septuagenarian) or “selling out” (leveled at people you’re envious of), I am just pointing out that Michael would make a good leading man or a sidekick in the right movie. Go for it, dude!
Chile, where have you been?
Have you not seen the latest “crop” of black actors??? If none of the names below ring a bell, I’d suggest turning on a TV or going to the movies, because you’ll see one or many of them in shows, series, sitcoms, and films playing yesterday, today or tomorrow.
Nate Parker, Omari Hardwick, Idris Elba, Jesse Williams, Chiwitel Ejiofor (he was nominated for an Academy Award earlier this year!), Michael B. Jordan, Boris Kodjoe, Tyler James Williams, Laz Alonso, David Gyasi, Corbin Bleu, Jensen Atwood, Anthony Mackie, David Oyelowo, Tristan Wilds, Dayo Okeniyi, Norm Lewis, Gbenga Akinnagbe, Chadwick Boseman, Derek Luke, Lance Gross, Tyson Beckford, Mehcad Brooks, Robert Richard, John Boyega, Billy Brown, Alfred Enoch, Brandon Jackson, Kevin Phillips, Brandon Fobbs, D. B. Woodside, Charles Michael Davis, Shemar Moore, Michael Ealy, Damon Wayans, Jr., Elijah Kelley, Brian J. White, Isaiah Mustafa, Jay Ellis, Taye Diggs, and on and on.
kodi_kanuck
Not sure what I said but they erased my comments. Guess I will not come back… Bye Queerty. It is your loss.
enlightenone
@stranded: “Since he did come out and it did garner so much media attention, do you think that hurt him in the end?”
Why would it, and in what way? Your thoughts?
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@DarkZephyr: Bitch you didn’t even need to respond back to me no way acting like your friendship meant spit to anybody. You can step down off you perch now bitch, and seek that mental help you keep speaking so frantically of. Afterall, you’re the clueless whore reaching out with your two faced ass just to get mad, because we know what two face is. In denial because nobody likes a liar? If I was you I would get the help I need quick fast in a hurry bitch while you’re acting like all my posts are referencing your late, tired, two faced ass somehow. Get yourself the help you need bitch while you’re always trying to make up some excuse to speak to me next, because I can see where your bitch ass ain’t doing nothing right these days.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@DarkZephyr: And you can stop acting like I can’t read what the fuck your bitch ass is tongue in cheek writing about me on the same exact screen you obsessing bitch. Remember that the next time you want to call out the social dysfunctions around here with your delusional bitch ass, because your friendship was outright rejected right & exact, so you can get mad or sit & spin on that news too now you jealous, miffed ho! You must really think you scaring somebody. I can’t wait until you do get the picture bitch though, while you’re outright accusing everyone that hates you of being the same exact person. Nope. The entire world actually hates you now you delusional bitch. So you can now officially kill yourself. And just in time for the Holidays! Ha ha ha!
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@Trippy: A smear campaign? Nice try asshole, but you still would be the most unpopular ass here on the Queerty site whore.
And you “become a target of mine” when I call your bitch ass out myself whore. Not when some pmsing trannee named Trippy puts you on some supposed list, and then says these people are my least favorite. You’re doing an awful lot of research on someone who you’re trying to paint the picture is somehow stalking you then aren’t ya whore? Afterall, I think I more than love Cam you jealous piece of shit, so see if you can try and spin doctor your way into more favorable views on that note.
I'm Black, and HIV-Positive.
@Trippy: I told you already: If you had any sense you would call yourself Trippin instead, because that sounds alot more accurate.
Remember that while you’re wondering why everybody including Queerty can see through the charade that is you, and losing bunch of wanna be bullies on the Queerty website.
Get used to it bitch, no one has to back down from your razist cracker shit no way. Your shit is all the way plastic, and see thru as it is!
martinbakman
Is Josina Anderson still relevant? What a journalist wannabe she was. Hopefully ESPN kicked her to the curb.
queerwhizkid
grrrrrrrrr can yu girls giv it a break!!! i am a teenager and even i am not this big of a “sensitivities” queen, yu girls need sex or more likely ice-cream!
queerwhizkid
If i name my blog Faggotry, is it offensive?
JimmyJ
What creature is a Michael Sam?
wpewen
Regardless of his talent level and everything else, look at the pattern. Money, media, Oprah, Visa. He hadn’t done anything yet. This is our culture, and this our economy. In a sense, everyone is “victimized” by this facile nothingness.
His 15 minutes of fame paid for by a world devoted to marketing.
He might have been able to play if he’d come out later to his team. There have been quite a few guys who have done that. No way was the NFL going to let him stay as a gay media presence, despite even some good intentions by management.
jockjack5
@wpewen:
Good points wpewen!
Bottom line, Sam was “too small and too slow” to play the position(s) he could have realistically played in the NFL, and his unseemly grasping for fame prior to even making the team caused those same teams and others to shy away from what surely would have become a major media-driven distraction.
Your 15 minutes is up gay boy!
And to… I’m Black, and HIV-Positive
Your ghetto-ese did not include “jive-ass” amongst the numerous other ugly-ass comments that you made. WTF was your point? Glad you finally put the crack-pipe down!
tham
@TriForceKid1013:
What are you guys talking about he’s 6’2 and 261 pounds…for DE, that’s prototype size. And he scored high on the Wonderlic test…so I call Bullshit on that
jockjack5
I never heard of the “Wonder-Lick Test”, but I guess his gangster boyfriend Vito Corleone would know all about that.
And, he IS too small for a defensive end in the NFL!
Those guys are typically mountain-size and weigh well over 325 pounds. In addition, it is not unusual for them to be 6’5″ or taller (the better to see and block passes) and can cover ground as quickly as a linebacker. They are truly physical marvels and it was these guys that Michael Sam was competing against. He didn’t stand a chance!
TriForceKid1013
@tham: The wonderlic and the actual work outs are 2 different things the test doesn’t measure what you can do on the fields the work outs do and he had a overall bad combine. You can call all you want doesn’t make it so look it up that’s part or the reason his stock fell nobody cared about him coming out prior to the combine it was after that his projection dropped.
TriForceKid1013
@tham: Also it was his lack of size along with his lack of pass rush moves, average to below average strength for his position, he suspect run d, along with not playing special teams which hurt him in regards to being a automatic starting defensive end or linebacker. Playing special teams is how most rookies in the NFL get their start.
queerwhizkid
Tri, giv it up….. these girls r like way ignorant
TriForceKid1013
@queerwhizkid: Noted I’m starting to see that no matter how much info is out there about this whole thing if it doesn’t fit their argument it’s seems to be invalid.
pjm1
This Queerty article has been around awhile but
how desperate is Arron Rogers to prove he is heterosexual?.
his beard says . . . .
http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/olivia-munn-dishes-on-aaron-rodgers-gameday-sex-habits/
jockjack5
@tham:
OK, OK…. I WAS wrong about the SEC!
It is indeed one of the premier conferences and I mistakenly thought that Missouri was in the Big 8 or some other backwater conference.
Despite that, Sam was nonetheless unable to compete with his given set of skills, and the fact remains he was absolutely “too small and too slow”.
Finally Mr. Tham, your inability to articulate a thought without resorting to name-calling has led me to believe that you enjoy sniffing jockstraps in your spare time. I hate to be “trolling” and may be wrong, but hope you can provide a correction to this belief as well.