You don’t even need a bunch of Bible beaters to start fights with the queers, notes Canadian comedian Vong Sundara.
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Jorge
Stupid and untrue. I’ve been to countless Pride celebrations in the states with no protestors.
Canada is just a quiet country with eager ‘activists’ looking for something to get excited about. G20 protests? Talk about a huge LOL. This is no different.
alan brickman
Umm… “Queers against Israeli Aparthied” dont exist????
Canadianskeezix
@Jorge:
Sundara isn’t saying that Toronto isn’t the only place with no non-gay protestors, only that it is lucky to be among such places. Pointing to gay parades elsewhere without protestors doesn’t really address the point he’s making.
Jorge
@Canadianskeezix: And so what’s his point? Canada is lucky? What does luck have to do with it?
Canadianskeezix
@Jorge:
Given the attacks on gay pride parades in the past couple of years in certain places like Russia, Hungary, Estonia and Israel, Sundara is simply noting that, notwithstanding any internal debates, gays in Canada are fortunate to not be facing more harrowing circumstances. It’s simply a well intentioned statement to count one’s blessings, so I am not clear why you are trying so hard to obfuscate what should be a simple and non-controversial message.
Jorge
@Canadianskeezix: I’m just trying to figure out what kind of idiot would assume that the welcoming atmosphere of Canada came about by luck. It discredits the heavy lifting that was required for that sort of acceptance.
It also disregards the significance of the struggles in other countries. Gay pride isn’t a birthday, it’s not some sort of silly celebration. It’s a political statement to go out and demonstrate pride. Those who display their pride in the face of violence are doing much more than this guy. He doesn’t have to feel guilty about living in a progressive country but he should realize that the protests and counter protests are bigger than the parades they interrupt.
I’m not the one missing the point, this comedian is.
Canadianskeezix
@Jorge:
He means lucky as in fortunate, not as in winning the lottery, and you are reading way too much into his comments and making all kinds of unfounded assumptions about his views. One can count one’s blessings without being ignorant of what it took to get there and discounting struggles elsewhere. Again, it remains unclear why you are taking such umbrage at such a simple positive message and trying so hard to find hidden insults.
Jorge
@Canadianskeezix: I’m not digging for anything (how ironic that you talk about unfounded assumptions), that was just my reaction. You should realize that your own impression isn’t going to be the same as everyone else’s.
I still think it sounds stupid, what is the point of even mentioning it? Should I tweet about America’s freedom of religion and point out our good fortune since we’re among the countries that allow that? It’s stupid and like I said, luck and fortune have nothing to do with it.
jeffree
@jorge : What is your point? What is your axe to grind?
P.s.. Say hi to Jason from all of us.
Jorge
@jeffree: All one of you? I think I made my point clear and I don’t think it is invalid. It’d be nice to have a conversation about the things I said rather than my supposed motivations…
jeffree
@Jorge: I will ask again: what is your point? What is your beef?
Until you can answer those questions, you are merely a gnat, a pétard, and a trôll.
Jorge
@jeffree: Do you need me to copy and paste my previous posts? I’ve already made my point.
Because I disagree with you or have an unpopular opinion, I’m a troll?
MStewart
@Jorge:
I think the reason that everyone is questioning you is that you seem to going out of your way to be obtuse about the tweet. I’m guessing it’s because you initially misread the tweet (as is obvious from your first post), and you’ve been flailing about ever since trying to find something wrong with it rather than simply admit that your first post didn’t make a lot of sense. Like myself, I am sure that no one can figure out why you are trying so hard to twist the meaning of a relatively straightforward message, ignoring the obvious intended meaning of words like “lucky”, etc. You’ve been complaining about a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with the tweet.
gregg
Whatever unique identity Toronto once had died under the onslaught of the multi-cultural madness that has swamped it with third world immigrants. Toronto is a now large-ish city with no real unique attributes…big, full of immigrants, but nothing special. Toronto Pride parade is an extension of that…big but who cares..it’s Toronto.