The Self-Hating Gays Who Will Wish Themselves Straight One Day

HOMO HOMOPHOBES — If Tyra Banks isn’t introducing the world to gay-for-pay porn stars, she’s bringing America’s homophobes into our living room. It makes for great TV, but not a positive message. (But since when were we ever advocates of that?) But this is television, so there’s a twist: The men on her show this week who hate gay people? They’re fags. And:

They’ve set deadlines for turning straight. Ugh. Get a wastebin to either vomit in or throw their self-hatred.

Especially for Shane, who’s ashamed of effeminate gays — since men are supposed to be “alpha,” and if they wanted to be feminine or girly, they should get a sex change. Shane also thinks of older gay men as “creepy.” And this screaming queen can’t stand the look of other penises, but puts up with it to hook up. Ahem. His ex-girlfriend is also now dating his ex-boyfriend!

Pray these are all paid actors and made all this up to be on TV. And if not, that they’ll have an outlet for their self-hatred other than themselves.

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  • Eric

    I think the Miata was reason enough to self hate.

  • Sebbe

    OMG – first Japh gets me to watch faux news and now David is going to con me into watching tyra…..errrrr…… ok, but I need a drink first. I can’t guess which one is “Shane”, the one that hates effiminate gays, because from the screen shots none of them look, um.. butch? alpha?

    “this screaming queen can’t stand the look of other penises, but puts up with it to hook up. Ahem. His ex-girlfriend is also now dating his ex-boyfriend!”

    OK David I’m hooked, I’m interested, it is one of those things that you want to look away but can’t.

  • Thor

    I wish I was part of the audience so the camera could catch my flabbergasted reaction too.

  • SBK

    OK, what is Shane doing bashing gays for being effeminate, when he himself is pretty damn femme himself. And then the girl he used to date says it’s absurd for him to want to be straight and you can’t help who you’re attracted to? But then she turns around and dates another gay guy. And of course her boyfriend is obvi still gay, because he’s pretty cute and any good looking straight man with taste would NOT date that girl. The shame of it all is that Shane as well as his ex are both pretty cute. Sad that society makes them feel ashamed of themselves.

  • rick

    all three of these men are total complete assholes.

  • rick

    if shane doesn’t want to be gay then he needs to stop being such a screaming queen.

  • rick

    she wore black to her wedding. sick. i think she is a drag queen.

  • Cody

    Tyra is an exploitive bitch… (Does this violate the comment policy)?

  • Brian Miller

    There are many, many people who are stuck in this sad state of mind by circumstance. And most of the outraged and shocked coastal big city homos who clutch their pearls and shock and outrage won the lucky sperm-n-egg contest to be born into circumstances where they were never exposed to this inculturated self-loathing or were able to find an outlet to escape.

    Many, perhaps most of those who are outraged and insulting the poor poor guys would be identical to them if born into the same wretched circumstances.

  • Sebbe

    @Brian Miller – as an “outraged and shocked coastal big city homo”, it is an important point you make and it is often hard to imagine the circumstances and upbringing that not only these people, but people like them must have (and still) endured.

    It is prudent to remind ourselves, for many of us anyways, that comparatively we were (are) lucky.

  • Mike

    Shane also believes that the world will come to an end in 10 years, 11 months, and 28 days.

  • Sebbe

    #1 -young, needs exposure, still hope, therapy needed, shane -“a lot of things were the devil in my house, gays & pokemon”, sad.

    #2 – good for the aunt, all he needed was a trip to the city and exposure to gay people not on the teevee and like tyra said “during the daylight”, good to go.

    #3 – little hope, they both need therapy, the daughter needs therapy as well.

    #4 – get away from the father, he’ll be fine, props for tyra for her points about promiscuity at 23 – gay straight, whateva,

    Tia just needs to loose weight and get some confidence and she’ll be fine.

    This is the most of the Tyra show I have ever seen and I probably didn’t need the wine I thought I would to make it through it. I have to say, I thought that she handled it better than I expected and that her side comments came off as genuine.

  • Charles J. Mueller

    It was Henry Gibson of the Rowan and Martin Laugh-In who made the expression “Denial is not just a river in Egypt” famous.

    He was definitely onto something.

    Take a good, hard look all you Christians, Mormons, Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims and all the religious too numerous to enumerate in this limited space, at the sea of human wreckage you have created.

    This the carnage you have brought about and continue to bring about with the crafting and production of a insane, Broadway like production that excludes a huge segment of mankind from ever giving a happy performance in this show called life.

    Like idiots who keep trying to force square pegs into round holes, you Jesus and God freaks continue this debasement of mankind and what we have just witnessed in these five videos, is the sad and totally unnecessary result of trying to make people fit into the inhuman, robotic, automaton slot you have created for them.

    I hope y’all are very proud of yourselves for having transformed the children of your God, into self-loathing circus freaks for the entertainment and amusement of the TV masses.

    And just look at the billions of dollars that you are making from it.

    Keep up the good work. *sarcasm font on*

  • Justin Sesek

    “I’m totally gonna be straight…eleven years from now after I’ve gotten to fuck a whole bunch of guys. Also I’m a selfish lay.”

    What a bunch of morons. Pathetic dipshits, the bunch of them. All three of them should go play in traffic.

  • Sebbe

    @Justin Sesek – wasn’t there 4 guests. Shane, then the one that walked around the city with a gay guy, the the “couple”, then the um last one who went to the seminar.

    Which one gets to live? My vote is for number 2. He actually seemed like he just wanted/needed to get the fuck outta wherever the hell he was. Totally seemed adjusted even in the short time once he saw “real gays” and not stereotypical examples. Can’t say I blame the guy.

  • getreal

    I think it is sad, these guys were obviously raised to think so negatively about gays that they hate themselves. I notice God seems to gift homophobe fundamentalists with gay kids a lot hmm… As a woman I blame the women who get into romantic relationships with these men instead of befriending them and helping them come to terms with who they are. I think that these women are opportunistic taking advantage of confused vulnerable people and sleeping with and marrying them.

  • Charles J. Mueller


    BINGO! Little wonder that they are called faghags!

    Just like the gay men they married (and know deep in their hearts they will never really have), they too do not think enough of themselves or feel worthy of a relationship in which all of their needs and desires, mentally and physically, can be met, as well as that of their mates.

    Like you said, they are nothing more than opportunistic women who are also using people to massage their own sagging egos. While it is, indeed, very sad, it’s no mistake that people like this are together…and lying to themselves in unison.

    And all to appease some whackos who insist that you must be straight, marry, and propagate the species or risk being damned to eternal hellfire and brimstone.

    They screw up everyone’s heads…gay and straight alike.

    Equal opportunity humanity destroyers.

  • getreal

    @Charles J. Mueller: I could not say it any better myself.

  • Phoenix (Plotting Anarchy From My Basement Lair)

    The straights can have them and welcome. Sorry, guys, but we have too many self-loathing fags already. We don’t need anymore.

    p.s. Psst! You! Yeah, you–the beard! He’s never going to give up cock!

  • walt zipprian

    @Charles J. Mueller:

    Please tell me you were wearing pearls when you were writing that.

  • Charles J. Mueller

    @walt zipprian:

    No doubt, this comment has something to with something?

  • getreal

    That was probably his funny way of saying “clutch the pearls”

  • Charles J. Mueller

    And no doubt, he deems his comment to be a pearl of wisdom. lol

  • michael

    I became of age in 1980. I have really good memories. I grew up in a major southeastern city and though there were churches on every corner being gay seemed to be getting easier. Anita Bryant had been buried, the gay meccas like San Fran and N.Y. were thriving and there seemed to be a light shining on us. Being gay was fun and hopeful. But then Regean got in office and HIV hit us like bombs dropping on Baghdad. The lights went out. A new level of hate and shame entered our worlds and we could barely take care of our own while trying to dodge this mysterious killer ourselves. We did not have the strength to keep the light burning at the same intensity, we were fighting for our lives.

    This is why we still have young gay people like these and it is up to us to do something about it. We have to restore the momentum of pride that we have barely kept alive. We have to inspire each other and learn to love each other, as brothers and sisters of a common bond. I think that is starting to happen, not as large as I would like, but still I am optimistic. Our power lies in love, nothing else, so lets start believing in it again, and lets start giving it to each other, again.

  • kevin (not that one)

    I hate them for being gay too!

    What a waste, when there are PUhLENTY of men I wish were gay but aren’t. At this point in the game, all of the ex-gay fools can have these pathetic nelly twinks, one of whom will no doubt be dead before she’s 30 due to drug addiction or bashed to death while trolling a dangerous part of town cause she’s too self-hating to form a loving GAY(!!!!) relationship.

    I also hated being gay…when I was 13. I grew up feeling all alone and totally freakish because I didn’t know any other gay people or what the gay community even was. But this is now, not 23 years ago in a small Southern town. There’s no excuse to hate yourself, and by the time I got out of that place and turned 19, I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED being gay…and still do!

    What we need to do is reach out to the young people who are already LOUD and PROUD, and not waste one more minute, not one more breath, on damaged goods who seem to enjoy their suffering more than most of us probably realize.

  • GENE

    That Shane guy posted this on the comments section of YouTube.

    “ImaBrobotWitNoLove (2 hours ago)

    Okay this is shane from the video.
    A lot of you don’t get the majority of this was a joke
    It was amusing to me and i don’t really care if fagz get offended.
    and to the comments
    i’m not bi
    leaning towards asexual if anything”

    Seems like he is a pathetic attention seeking whore.

  • drresol

    @Sebbe: As someone raised in a tiny rural community in the south, I can somewhat relate to how guys like these come to be the way they are. There are still pockets in this country where it’s still the 1950s, at least as far as homosexuality goes. Where I grew up, there was absolutely nothing worse; nothing more loathed than homosexuals. Somebody’s kid is a drug addict? An alcoholic? Awww…that’s too bad. He’s still a good kid, he’ll get through this. But someone’s kid is a *homo*??? It wasn’t even spoken of. The stigma was so intense it was like the very word couldn’t be voiced without nausea. I recall hearing my mother and one of her friends discussing just such a thing, and all they could manage to say was, “well, her son is…well, you know…*color drain from face*….different.”

    Sooo…I’m glad I fought through it and got out (relatively) in good mental health. But when I see guys like this I have some empathy. Someone people had to go through hell for being gay, and it’s deeply imbedded in them.

  • getreal

    @drresol: Your perspective is appreciated I think a lot of us forget that America is so culturally diverse we had PFLAG at my high school.

  • rcloy

    the moment when shane mentions that pokeman and dragon ball z is the devil and having both of it put in the same category as homosexuality shows us the kind of level of his “smartness” ! erghh… and i totally agree with GENE comm #27

  • Sebbe

    @michael – I think it is important for those of us that are younger and maybe grew up in very positive cirumstances to remember what our older brothers and sisters may have been through. Thank you for reminding us.

    @ kevin (not that one) – my initial reaction is to say the same, but, remember most of these kids may have not had the oppurtinty to get out yet. The one (number 2), seemed quite well adjusted after getting into the city and meeting “real” gay guys. He also was the only one there with a supportive family member that wanted him to see that first hand.

    @drresol – I’m glad you made it out and are happy and yes I’m realising more and more because of this post and others like it on this site that we have to keep it in mind. I am also much more aware and appreciative (lucky) for how I grew up.

    @rcloy – its not necessarily his smartness though. he is still young and I cannot imagine growing up in that environment where you are constantly hearing things like that.
    @GENE – I wouldn’t assume that is him. that is common for people to do that on youtube. Could be, but always be suspicious when you see something like that.

  • DavidiNSeaTtle

    We all have Christianity to thank for the problems with these guys. They were programmed poorly, and now they have to pay the price or get cult deprogramming therapy or just get a clue someday. I wish them the best, as it is horrible being in their position.

  • getreal

    @DavidiNSeaTtle: Islamic culture is even more homophobic. It’s not Christianity it is SOME idiot christians who twist the bible to rationalize their prejudices people did the same thing with the bible and slavery. So don’t insult all christians a lot of us are just normal people with different beliefs and we aren’t all homophobes!

  • hardmannyc

    Did you ever think these people say these things just so they can be on TV? There’s a whole subclass that reads the scrolls at the end of these talk shows asking for weirdos and adapt accordingly. There was a great South Park about freaks who made a living traveling to NYC to do these shows and unionized. Butters had a pair of balls taped to his chin.

  • Darth Paul

    @hardmannyc: Spot on.

  • Matt

    I’m going to have to watch these videos later but as a gay man I really don’t like the gays either. I know I can not not be gay. But I think my life would have been better if I was straight. I also just don’t really hang out or date gay men. I just kind of keep to myself and read my gay blogs lol. I don’t care either way about gay marriage. I’m not against it but I’m not out rallying for it either.

    I just don’t fit in with your community. I guess I don’t hate the gays I just don’t fit and so I choose not to be around you.

  • Sebbe

    @matt – I hope you are on day able to find someone that “fits” with you. Are you in an area where you are exposed to many different types of gay man? I will admit, even in major coastal cities it can often be difficult to find gays who don’t fit your stereotype. Best of luck.

  • getreal

    You are gay so you are part of the community.People need to stop treating being straight like it is some kind of holy grail it isn’t any big deal. Maybe you should try to work on yourself so you can see that there can be a satisfying life out there if you want it. These days the life of a gay person does not have to be any less satisfying than a straight person. You can find love,get married, raise a family. You will probably lose the homophobes around you that made you hate yourself but you are better off without them.

  • Sebbe

    I would slit my wrists if I woke up straight.

  • Matt

    @Sebbe: I am in a large metropolitian city. The guys here just like to go out, get drunk and/or high. I’ve tried different groups. The local gay and lesbian chamber of commerce, the cocktail sips, but I just don’t get into the stereotypical gay stuff that seems to be talked about. I don’t know Sex in the City or Madonna. I also don’t like how they are friendly to their friends and then when that friend walks away they talk about all their problems and say don’t tell anyone I told you this. They don’t seem very loyal or trustworthy.

  • Alan down in Florida

    @Matt: Maybe you’re just limiting your search to pretty vapid boys. Maybe if you “lowered” your standards and took the time to get to know someone who might not be so young or pretty you might find someone who shares your values. As I have often said about a goodly percentage of gay men – we are so busy chasing down the man we want that we run right past the guys we need.

  • Sebbe

    @Matt – I know what you are saying all too well and it can be hard. When you least expect it you will find someone, likely in a place you never thought you would and you might be pleasantly surprised.

  • Alan down in Florida

    BTW – Props to Tyra. I thought she handled that very well.

  • JJJJ

    You guys are forgetting that shows like Tyra are mostly scripted and use actors or wannabe-actors.

  • Tom

    wow. I don’t want to pass judgment on these men (because I don’t know them) but they all sound really sad and troubled.

    and Tyra schooled that hunky Mark kid about promiscuous young men gay and straight.

  • ptrfortune

    @Brian Miller:
    are you from LA Brian but originally from the South????

  • sparkle obama


    getreal, thanks for consistently talking about “normal” christians who do not hate the gays.
    you always drop the welcome science.
    i myself am not christian per se, but i’m sick of having my beautiful xtian friends & family stereotyped in forums like these.

  • kevin (not that one)

    @Matt: You have a very narrow definition of who a gay person is, and maybe that’s not your fault. However, as someone who has never fit into the clone box and who is in more contact with straight friends and family than gay ones, I really am not buying your story. And frankly, it sounds like total internalized homophobia. Part of that comes from the fact that I suspect you just aren’t willing to accept that you don’t automatically get straight privilege, and it’s the privilege that you refuse to give up.

    Because of my personal identity (I won’t go into details) I’ve always accepted I was a minority within a minority, much like African American LGBTs feel. Much like gay men who are too overweight, too skinny, too working class, or too culturally different than the mainstream gay community have felt.

    But back when I was becoming conscious of what being gay meant, the term “family” was very much synonymous with the LGBT community. We always use to say, “are you family?” Or refer to someone as a “family member”.

    I know gay slang goes through a metamorphous with each generation, but I believe that for many of us that holds true.

    You say you don’t have a problem with same-sex marriage, but you’re not out there fighting for it either. And I suspect you haven’t lifted a finger to be visible or to improve the plight of your LGBT brothers and sisters who are persecuted throughout the world.

    Well, sorry buddy, but if you aren’t opposing injustice, you are an ACCOMPLICE to it. Or as Edmund Burke said, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    Frankly, you need to see a therapist because the EXTREMELY DIVERSE gay community isn’t the problem.

  • Michael vdB

    Is there more to the story? Do they only hate being gay or is it something more? I see it as it doesn’t matter if you are gay or straight…you should never hate something that is apart of you. We all, at some point in time, want to change something about ourselves. If that were not the case, then sex wouldn’t sell, weight loss and gym equipment wouldn’t be around, and fast cars would be a thing of the past.

    Point is…being gay is apart of who I am but it is not *all* that I am. I am so much more and have so much to offer. I just happen to be gay and like the slap and tickle every so often.

    These guys need to get past their short-sighted view of the world and explore it. Maybe they will learn something about themselves in the process. Maybe not.

  • Charles J. Mueller


    Mark, no offense intended, but I am gonna “tell it like it is.”

    I get that you are pretty much in the same space as the kinds on the Tyra TV Show. You were born gay, but you simply can’t deal with it and want to be straight.

    It’s so much easier for them (and apparently you as well) to simply turn your back on the gay community, denounce it and tell yourself that it is the “community” who is at fault, because your pictures of what that community should look like, do not coincide with the reality of what’s “out there” and that is the cause of your feeling that you do not “fit in”.

    Mark. I have bad news and I have good news.

    The bad news is, the “community” is not going to convolute itself to agree with your idea of how it should be. Ain’t a gonna happen, bud.

    The good news is, you can change your preconceived and limited notions of how the community is by focusing on the positive aspects of it, instead of focusing on the negative aspects of it.

    There is an old adage that goes “We see exactly what we want to see”.

    Perhaps it’s time for a new eyeglass prescription?

  • Cody

    @Sebbe: SAME! If I could wake up tomorrow and take a pill to become straight, I would be all, “HELL NO!”

  • Weighing In

    I have to wonder about authenticity, too. I remember when several episodes (not just one) of Jerry Springer featured messed up trailer trash (of the My Mom Stoleded My Boyfriend type) all hailing from Wynnewood, Oklahoma. I mean, it’s an obscure town of not too many people in a place many would consider hick. So, for two or three eps of Springer to have different people from there… It just seemed too coincidental. So, living in Oklahoma City at the time, I asked some friends who came from Wynnewood, they told me those people weren’t from that town at all. Of course, Springer was outed more than once for fake episodes. I wonder if Tyra isn’t now the new Springer.

  • Andrew

    Wow, the waistcoats are really out in force for Tyra.
    And they hate being gay?

    It should be “I hate being a fag, but i lurve the fashion!”

  • Cee

    I can’t even take this discussion seriously. I like Tyra, but this is trash. If you are going to have a self hating gay on your show then he need NOT be a flaming queen himself. It’s a joke. Then you got the typical overweight fag hag in the audience dating these GAY guys. I mean come on.

  • Cee

    Wasn’t there a movie Madonna played in where she had a child with a gay man then everything went bad? They started off as best friends and all that. The couple on Tyra show reminds me of that movie. They are headed in that same direction. It will be sad because when they divorce she will find a hetero man and they will get custody of the child, not the gay guy.

  • parisinla

    i haven’t seen the whole of this but this is both stupid and narrow minded and poorly conceived. How could tyra put this shit to air. She opens with this retard 12 year old… god im so over this bitch.

  • Sebbe

    @parisinla – watch the 2nd one

  • getreal

    @sparkle obama: Thanks for supporting not attacking.

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