Which is more offensive: That South Park has a superhero named The Coon, or that Kyle would use such an offensive word to butt pirates?
From last night’s episode:
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frisky
well its true. the word ‘faggot’ is offensive to butt pirates. whats the problem?
Tallskin
I think we really do need to develop some offensive terms for heterosexuals, male and female
I have found that dead baby jokes tend to piss off your average hetty if they’re being homophobic!
Raven
They push everyones buttons and I have never felt singled out or that it was done in a homophobic manner. As far as “Coon” goes, in this context it shouldn’t have been seen as offensive. It wasn’t like he went out in “black face”
Tim in SF
Everything they do on Southpark is offensive and none of it bothers me one bit. I love that show.
Mickey's mouse :P
As a Butt Pirate(which is kick ass, because I could plunder your booty, or x on your spot” and pirates are generally awesome anyway.), I would have to agree with young Eric Cartman, I find the word Faggot offensive. 😀
thatguyfromboston
South Park exists to offend, and they do so magnificently.
12334
Yeah they do, too bad the show is only funny to lame asses.
Timothy
After their take on Scientology (“Tom Cruise, come out of the closet already!!”) and their episode on ex-gays, South Park has permission to say anything they like.
12334
Wow an obvious joke, vailed by and even more obvious pretence. LOLOLOL! Dude that loves southpark=limp dick
Jeremy Feist
@Tallskin: Well, sometimes I’ll tell one of my friends that she looks really good, and then add “No Hetero”. Oooooooh yeah, it totally works both ways!
That being said, I love South Park so much, I want to take behind a middle school and get it pregnant!
Jason in WV
Derrogatory terms for straight people:
– breeders
– straighties
– conservative assholes
– buggy pushers
– virgin (really pisses off straight guys)
– whore (really pisses off straight women)
Or, we could blame them all for destroying the economy and the institution of marriage, which gay people have had no part in destroying (yet).
kevin (not that one)
South Park rocks.
Coffee&Chicory
dude, the joke was priceless. ‘the word faggot is offensive to “butt pirates”‘ So very South Park. I love this show.
Cam
@12334:
Your comment is so sad because you are so obviously trying to pretend to be more intelligent than you are.
hardmannyc
South Park is an equal opportunity insultor. Parker and Stone get a pass.
Dabq
Yet another reason I’m glad I don’t own a TV.
shivadog
Love south park,one of my favorite episodes is the one where the boys and girls have a sled race and everytime the girls see the boys they call them a new “gay” insult. doughnut punchers, pillow biters, butt pirates, and basically everything I’ve ever heard of and a few I hadn’t.I laughed my ass off. 12334 probably doesn’t like south park because it’s painful to laugh with that stick up his butt.
Bill
Tallskin, how about HATEROSEXUAL. It’s appropriate. The history of inequality is the history of heterosexuality. If you believe your personal relationships should be unequal as most heterosexuals do (where the man leads and the woman submits or that men and women have different and separate roles) than you can apply that outside of your own relationships and onto others.
getreal
Well I don’t believe in hate speech if butt pirate is offensive people shouldn’t use it. As far as thinking up new hate speech. With all the injustice, discrimination, and pain in the world if THAT is the contribution you feel you want to make that makes a statement about you as a person. I prefer to be against hate speech whomever it is about.
Ben
I’m so flippin over the f-word, in any context, yet I chuckled.
“butt pirate”, heh.
Fully using “hatersexual”. It’ll be fetch.
Ben
O i c i dropped the o there. Huh. I like it better.
Thi
Butt pirate is a very cool word. I wish lesbians had slang terms regarding pirates.
Also – wasn’t South Park created for the purpose of being offensive?
alan brickman
It’s still freedom of speech..but south park always provokes discussion of issues good for them…
alan brickman
Always want to hear the term..”bitchasses” too…
getreal
i also like bitchassness as an adjective for bad behavior it is one of very few hip hop terms I really like.
Carsen Tyler
@Tallskin: It was funny at my all girl school “whore” was the worst insult a girl can get. When the breeders called us “lesbian whores” we always joked that at least when we whored around we didn’t have to scrape a dead baby out of our uterus. It always hit low and worked. I totally second the dead baby jokes.
Timothy
I am not making this up… I was in Target in WeHo one day last year (yeah, I know, take away my gay card) and saw a pair of mens jeans for sale that had pirate symbols (I think it was swords but it may have been skulls) embroidered on the back pockets.
Timothy
cool… i found a link to the butt-pirate jeans
http://www.amazon.com/Young-Men%2527s-Keanan-Duffty-Pirate/dp/B000FLD0QK
duckie
does SP ever use the words n*gger, kike, dyke, spick, gook? if not, then they probably shouldn’t use fag/faggot either.
getreal
@duckie: Co-sign
Sam
@duckie
yes. they use all of those.
And also, for anyone who doesn’t watch the show. An episode aired that was in favor of gay marriage, and made fun of politicians who just try to pass the buck (the governator) so they don’t have any backlash against them.
andy_d
@Jason in WV: You forgot the ULTIMATE insult to str8 women. CUNT.
@Duckie: They have used “kike.” Guess which character. Of course, Cartman.
Nick
South Park annoys the **** out of me. Or, really, its fans annoy me. The show is passably funny (though overrated), but it absolutely blows my mind how many people identify with the jaundiced, brainlessly cynical worldview that underlies it. Sign of the times, I guess, but “everybody is stupid and sucks” doesn’t strike me as much of a social commentary.
getreal
@andy_d: The word cunt never bothered me personally. It is such silly sounding word plus having spent a lot of time recently in the UK and hearing men call each other cunt it no longer seems female specific.
Lin
@andy_d:
Cunt. LOVE that word (in many senses, natch).
rogue dandelion
I always thought “breeder” was a particularly nasty sounding insult.
basically just insult a straight guy as you would a straight girl, their sexist tendencies will make it more effective.
Southpark is sometimes genuinely funny, and sometimes makes their case quite pointedly and elegantly.
Most of the time, it doesn’t, however.
My problem is with the middle schoolers(and those of the same intelligence level) who watch cartman and lionize him without any sense of irony or understanding of satire.
Andrew Triska
@Thi: You’re right. Lesbians need their own pirate-related slang term. “Vulva swashbucklers” springs immediately to mind, but I think I’m going to have to consider this more carefully.
Aamyko
How can a cartoon be offensive? Get Over It!
Wade, MD
Appropriate gay-themed pirate terms: (Note: many could refer to gay men and/or women.)
swabbing the poop deck
blow the man down
raising the jolly roger
digging for buried treasure
mutiny on the booty
cracking Jenny’s teacup
sending Davy Jones to the bottom
burying the wooden peg
stroking the parrot
fire in the hole
plundering her boat
running a shot across the bow
topgallanting
shooting the cannon
bilged on her anchor
manluber (instead of landlubber)
I probably could think of more, but this will get you started.
duckie
@Sam: ok, thanks. i haven’t watched this show for many years. i still don’t think they should use these words, but i wasn’t exactly offended by the above clip either.
btw, to those quoting it as ‘faggot’, they only say ‘fag’ and ‘faggy’ in this clip. maybe that’s why it’s not as offensive as it could’ve been? it’s kinda like the difference in ‘nigga’ and ‘n*gger’ … or something.
your fucking retarded
@duckie:
wow
“does SP ever use the words n*gger, kike, dyke, spick, gook? if not, then they probably shouldn’t use fag/faggot either.”
you can’t type out nigger but you type out kike, dyke, spick, and gook like kike, dyke, spick, and gook isn’t offensive to kike’s, dyke’s, spick’s ann gook’s? your fucking retarded.
getreal
@your fucking retarded: So you are calling him out for being offensive then you do the exact same thing? Before you jump on me I typed f*g in a way to be non-offensive the word personally pisses me off.
sparkle obama
south park did have a show where they said “n*gger”, didn’t they?
i don’t watch that show, but i remember the stories about it.
anyway, fake outrage is lame and beneath us, as “fags”
Nick
[his] fucking retarded what?
your fucking retarded
@getreal:
I’m not going to jump on you for anything. You didn’t follow the fag you typed (nice try with the * like I didn’t know or couldn’t figure out what word you used) with four other slurs that you didn’t apply the same stander to. That was just retarded, and the “in a way to be non-offensive” doesn’t work if the people you don’t want to offend know what the word is anyway.
getreal
@your fucking retarded: That is my perhaps silly way of letting you know the word i mean without using it. Hat language disgusts me so for the purpose of this post i typed f*g maybe i should have typed the f word, the last thing i would want would be to offend someone with hate speech. If typing it out using * instead of a was offensive I apologize.
BrianZ
I like South Park. It’s amusing, sometimes is much deeper than most intellects would understand, and generally irreverant to everyone. Perhaps some of the point to be made is in bringing the subject to the table, rather than trying to just put a label of “offensive” on it and never really addressing why it is such.
I hate the word faggot. It sucks my balls. I use queer all the time though.
My partner hates the word queer. It sucks his balls. But he’s attached to the word fag.
So, out of respect I don’t call my hubby a queer, and he doesn’t call me a faggot. Seems simple enough.
Butt pirate is fair game: Whomever walks funny in the morning wins.
Jamie
South Park is my favorite show, ever. I’ve seen every episode, and seriously – that show has deconstructed homophobia better than any show on television. South Park ruthlessly satirizes homophobia in a way that undercuts every single irrational, illogical argument people use to justify it. Anyone who thinks South Park is a homophobic show has only watched it occasionally (and superficially), as there are plenty of episodes which deal with gay subject matter in a way that is ultimately very pro-gay.
Andrew Triska
Not that I like gay slurs, but hearing the word “butt pirate” makes me snort milk out my nose. As slang terms for “gay” go, it’s hilarious. I think the queer community should take it back! We need to appropriate it as our own. What’s not to like about it? It involves pirates — hairy, manly, and always a crowd-pleaser. And who doesn’t like butts? I certainly do.
duckie
originally i had only “n*gger”, but added the other words right before i posted the comment without giving it enough thought. you’re right, i should have censored all of them or none of them. my apologies for that.
however, i fail to see how i am being offensive by typing these words in the context of a discussion about offensive words. i did not direct these words at anyone. however, you kind of did.
duckie
@your fucking retarded: originally i had only “n*gger”, but added the other words right before i posted the comment without giving it enough thought. you’re right, i should have censored all of them or none of them. my apologies for that.
however, i fail to see how i am being offensive by typing these words in the context of a discussion about offensive words. i did not direct these words at anyone. however, you kind of did.
J
@sparkle obama: [2]
Dan
SP takes the sting out of hate speech. By doing so, it encourages hate speech on the streets and in restaurants, stores, and bars – where the sting is back.
Young gay people are five times more likely to take their lives than young straight people, and the American Psychological Association thinks antigay harassment may be the reason why. This was also a conclusion of a 2001 study by Human Rights Watch.
SP shouldn’t use n*gger, k*ke, d*ke, sp*ck, g**k, or ret*rded either. All those people have feelings too.
Captain Freedom
South Park has the right to say whatever they want.
In fact, I think that episode was making fun of high schoolers and young people who often freeload on the word “faggot” but don’t necessarily intend it for gays. In fact, I think this episode was making fun of them for being young and immature.
One time, I met this Evangelical Christian who LOVED South Park but didn’t like it when they made fun of Christians….. If we’re going to let South Park offend us for being gay than we are on the same level as that Christian who was offended.
Dan
If you mean a legal right, there’s no right in the U.S. to say whatever you want. I occasionally run into someone who thinks that the right to free speech has no exceptions, but in the United States, rights are balanced against each other. I can only exercize my rights when my doing so doesn’t infringe on yours.
For example, Title VII specifically prohibits hate speech in the workplace against many demographic groups, and the courts have found that harassment on the basis of sexual orientation is often prohibited through its relation to gender. The United States Code prohibits harassment – referring to it as “abuse” – whether or not it’s on the basis of a demographic characteristic. This applies to any harassment that has an effect in a public place. Television is obviously included, because many public places, such as restaurants, have TVs.
Antigay harassment has been shown again and again to have serious, harmful consequences, and the courts recognize that people have a right to be free of those consequences. In one study, even adult heterosexuals were more likely to experience depression and anxiety if they were frequently exposed to antigay harassment.
It’s true that LBGT people who are harmed by harassment are on the same level as any Christian who may be harmed by it: the level of people who deserve to be treated with fairness and dignity.
notice
@your fucking retarded:
honestly before you starting bashing other people for being offensive maybe you should remove “retarded” form your name
getreal
@notice: LOL! And someone tell him it’s You’re not Your.
Brad Purcell
I hate when people use the word faggot. I want to piss and shit on them.
Brad Purcell
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jackoff
I love the words faggot, homo and queer-it suites homosexuals much better than “gay”-which means to be happy-not a fucking fag.
grossGays
I agree with Jackoff. i say faggot all the time, it doesnt bother me or any other STRAIGHT person i know. gays on the otherhand get really pissy when the word is even mentioned. people were not meant to screw the same sex! to be honest queers freak me out and i dont think gayness should be legal
GayBot
Anybody gonna feed the trolls?
!?!?!?!?
Some of my favorite queer jokes-How many fags can you put on a bar stool? It depends on how many legs it has. What did the fag say at the end of the work day? It’s time to go homo.