Sherri Shepherd bases her insipid views about homosexuality and the world on Christianity, and she doesn’t even know if the Virgin Mary (or Mary Magdalene) was married. Pack it in, lady. Go home. It’s clear these topics are just too much for you and I hate seeing a fellow girl struggle.
Gays and their marriages. Gays and their sex lives. Gays and their HIV spreading. And then there’s your own hang ups about possibly raising a gay child. Stop, Sherri. Just stop. If your contract keeps you from leaving the show, it’d be best if you just sat there, quietly. You’re embarrassing yourself, women, and parents at large.
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spider_orchid
Vile rude pig
jeffree
Yours, Sarah, is an impossible dream!
Sheri doesn’t *need* to know the Bible, because gosh, she has FAITH! Elisabeth doesn’t *worry* about the BP oil spill, because she PRAYS about it!
Babs Walters needs to retire and put the View out of its misery. The world will instantly be a safer, smarter & saner place!
Arkano18
I miss Whoopie. Where’s she when you need her to deliver some Whoop-ass?
Qjersey
Yes we can’t agree on anything which is a huge problem for getting anything accomplished
JAW
I hate to say this… but Sherri is kinda right… when Mary conceived Jesus, she was not married, She and Joe were just engaged to wed. We never did get an invitation, nor was the wedding announced in the NEW YORK TIMES… so perhaps it never happened. Odds are that Joe and Marry got married soon after the Angel talked to Mary and gave her the good news that she was great with child
Jon (the cranky one)
@JAW: oh gawd.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@JAW: They are both idiots because marriage at the time was nothing like what we perceive of it now:
“From the early Christian era (30 to 325 CE), marriage was thought of as primarily a private matter,[citation needed] with no uniform religious or other ceremony being required. However, bishop Ignatius of Antioch writing around 110 to bishop Polycarp of Smyrna exhorts, “[I]t becomes both men and women who marry, to form their union with the approval of the bishop, that their marriage may be according to God, and not after their own lust.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage#History
The problem with most gay people is that we allow ignorant straight (and sometimes other gay) people who know nothing of history to tell us what was once the case.
The past is actually very different from the present situation regarding marriage. It wasn’t even something the church got into until much later after the time of Christ (if you believe in that sort of thing) despite the modern claims of how sacred it has always been.
D'oh, The Magnificent
By the way, the reason the Church got into the marriage business is because, as you may guess, the property and business interests that are exchanged in marriage. This is all something you can learn in a good first year law course on property law so long as they incorporate some basics about property law history in the mix.
JAW
@D’oh, The Magnificent:
I understand, and I agree that all the ladies and guests on the view are not experts in most of what they spout off on.
You may be correct on why the church got into the marriage business. But since most of us have not taken property law 101, we use the Bible as the source for history. I use this passage from Luke as my source. I am not sure how accurate it is but I think it is the way most Christians remember the story:….
26Now in the sixth month, the archangel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28Having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, you highly favored one! The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women!” 29But when she saw him, she was greatly troubled at the saying, and considered what kind of salutation this might be. 30The angel said to her, “Don’t be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31Behold, you will conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and will call his name ‘Jesus.’ 32He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father, David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. There will be no end to his Kingdom.” 34Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, seeing I am a virgin?” 35The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one who is born from you will be called the Son of God.
* the numbers in the passage are the verses fom the Bible
Paschal
President Obama could stop discharges but he can’t repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. President Clinton trying to lift the ban on gays serving in the military resulted in DADT in the first place.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@Arkano18: Right! I miss Whoopi too…she never let Sherri get away with anything…I didn’t realize how important she was until she’s been gone this week. Joy usually lets the two twin morons have it too but she’s kind of given up this week…maybe it’s too much idiocy coming at her too often. Or maybe the CNN show is sucking up her energy…
josh
Join GLAAD’s call to action over The View’s homophobic propaganda…..
http://www.glaad.org/page.aspx?pid=1538
concernedcitizen
Okay first of all you should equally chide all of them, not just Sherri because they’re all wrong even Melissa and Joy don’t ask, don’t tell is not simply military policy it is the law so the president CAN NOT just simply sign an executive order and poof it’s gone…
It has to go out the same way it came in, through congress…
An executive order would only last through his term and is ephemeral and would do little in the way of effecting substantive change.
So maybe it is true he over-promised on DADT initially, however as of late he has been very cognizant of stating that he will WORK to have it repealed but its not as simple as 1, 2, 3.
And who cares if mary was married or not!?!
Pip
@Arkano18: God damn, the money I would pay to see a panel with both Whoopi and Rosie O’Donnell.
jason
Why isn’t there a group of men sitting around a table talking about gay rights? Not necessarily just gay men, but straight men too. It seems that we’re always stuck with women.
For Pete’s sake, women do NOT understand the stigma that has been imposed on male-male sexuality over the years. Women are hopeless. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that women have contributed to the stigma.
Women’s dedication to gay rights is usually based on a “status symbol” notion in which their pro-gay lip service is reciprocated by some fawning queen who keeps telling her how beautiful she is.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@jason: I applaud you for restraining yourself and not insulting Blacks like you usually do considering Sherri’s race and all…now work on your sick feelings towards women. The therapy must be starting to work!!
Hilarious
@concernedcitizen: I agree. Not sure why Sherri is taking the brunt of it because there’s enough stupidity that table for plenty of hate to go around.
That includes Whoopi. I used to watch and loved the show, but even Whoopi and Joy have lost their sense.
It’s just not worth even tuning in to this show.
I think the last time I watched Whoopi was going on and on about how people should have open marriages…as in be ok with sleeping around as long as the other partner knows about it. What the fuck?
Pip
Sherri’s like, “Of cours’ i kno Jesus was born a’virgin. I watched The Bible five times!”
redd
@Paschal: Actually he could (as could any president).
As commander in chief of the military, he can do as he pleases… the only reason he (and any other president) won’t is it’ll completely piss off any number of people that they need to pass other important legislation… such as funding for oh the study of elephants and beetles that eat there dung…
Daniel
bible bashers….why has religion become so public? Keep it to yourself. If you want believe in bronze aged myths so be it but can we have a discussion about real, important issues without invoking religion? We can debate gay marriage, families and DADT without religious BS. Nothing has retarded social progression and free inquiry more than the religious.
P.S Virgins can’t have children so it doesn’t matter whether she was married or not lol.
timncguy
@concernedcitizen: The president CAN issue a stop order to end military discharges now while waiting for the repeal of DADT to be finalized. This is very similar to what he has done with an immigration law. He instructed his Homeland Security Dept to ignore an immigration law which would require the deportation of immigrants whose citizen spouse dies before the immigrant is granted citizenship. He said he wants the law ignored while waiting for congress to act to change the law.
But, you are right. If Obama issued an order ending discharges while waiting for DADT to be legally repealed, it would be a temporary fix that the next president could undo if the law isn’t ultimately repealed. That would be EXACTLY the as all of the other incremental policy changes he has made to date for the LGBT community. Other than the Hate Crimes bill, they have ALL been policy changes that can be undone by the next president as easily as Obama put them in place.
CHEEKIEY
its time for this show to go off the air…
you had a good run for yourself
now go away
jason
Are there any intelligent black women about? I’m sure there are. Sometimes I feel that the TV executives put to air only the stupid, backward ones who reinforce stereotypes about black people in general.
Please, if there’s an intelligent black woman out there, write to ABC and ask them to give you a gig.
holla
@D’oh, The Magnificent: Although Mary was never a Christian and Jews of the era most certainly did have particular marriage rites which needed to be performed.
Revemupman
@Jason
“Women are hopeless. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that women have contributed to the stigma”.
This isn’t even women’s fault. Men set those standards and we forgot to grow with time. Women on the other hand have been fighting for a long time. Its time for men to drop everything and start looking at how we can liberate our sexuality. Women are not going to help with this issue. Especially straight women who personally think every man (black man) she comes across is maybe DL.
Men in this western society have been labeled predators. Reason being is we do not sit quiet like ladies do. We cause wars, fight for land, and forge nations. We are precieved as a threat in this world. All because we do not sit down and obey.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@jason: Jason, you were doing so well earlier in the thread but now you’re getting close to falling over the precipice of racism again…pull back “Jason a.k.a. Jesse Helms”!! Pull back before it’s too late!!!
O, the humanity!!!
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@Revemupman: We know this is another alter-ego for you Jason…just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself again.
concernedcitizen
@TIMCGUY
thank you and I agree completely my point as it seems to be yours as well but I won’t make assumptions is that the REAL problem is not with the president but rather with Congress, as they are the only branch who can effect long-term change.
We including Queerty NEED TO pressure CONGRESS in particular the Senate in order to get real changes in legislation.
Jimmi
@JAW: It was in the Jewish Exponent and I got my invitation. It was a fabulous wedding, too!
jason
James from Cambridge,
If you want to continue living in your PC world, go ahead. I am certainly not PC and nor do I intend to be.
PC will destroy the gay community. Blacks and women are part of the PC structure designed to oppress gay and bisexual men.
jeffree
@Jason. From now on, could you please cite sources that confirm your statements?
I would love to check out which publications you get your data and ideas from.
Otherwise you are the equivalent of the poor sad badly medica-ted man that has wandered the streets of every big town holding a 12 year-old sign stating: The world is ending in 30 days !!
I have faïth you’ll rise to the task !