A Republican Representative in Florida has suggested “erasing” the whole LGBTQ+ community if, as he claims, they continue to “target children”.
Rep. Randy Fine represents Florida’s 33rdth district, covering Brevard County and Melbourne Beach. He is currently trying to get his own HB 1423 through the house. The bill would penalize any business that allows a child to view an “adult live performance”.
Adult live performances
It also widens the description of adult performance to include anything “that depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, specific sexual activities as those terms are defined … lewd conduct, or the lewd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts when it predominantly appeals to a prurient, shameful, or morbid interest [or] is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community of this state.”
During a state legislative committee hearing yesterday, Fine admonished those who are not supporting his homophoic bill.
“If it means ‘erasing a community’ because you have to target children, then, damn right, we oughta do it!” he said.
“I just don’t think you have to inherently say, because you’re lesbian or gay, you want to target children. I find that statement to be offensive to them.”
Fine highlighted local Pride organizers in his district who applied for a permit. He said it was only days before the agreed “adult” festival that he discovered—to his horror—it would include a “Drag Queen Story Hour”.
Businesses that fall foul of the proposed new law face a fine or having their license revoked. Individuals may also face a third-degree felony if they knowingly allow kids into such “adult” shows.
WATCH: Rep. @VoteRandyFine gives fiery testimony on banning sexual shows for children
"If it means 'erasing a community' because you have to target children – then, damn right, we ought to do it!" pic.twitter.com/HFCmNnMMGa
Fine disputes his bill would target all drag shows (“It doesn’t use the word ‘drag’” he protested yesterday). He said adult performances in venues such as Hooters would not be impacted. Asked if it would affect restaurants such as Hamburger Mary’s, famed for its drag brunches, he said he did not know and he did not plan to visit.
On Facebook, Fine said HB 1423 “will ban the City of Melbourne from ‘welcoming’ drag queen adult entertainers from grooming our children!”
The bill passed the State Administration and Technology Appropriations Subcommittee by a vote of 10-5.
“No drag queen ever killed a little kid … Guns kill little kids,” Navarro told a drag brunch crowd on South Beach.
Florida travel advisory warning issued
In a separate Florida development, advocacy group Equality Florida yesterday took the unusual step of issuing a travel advisory warning to anyone thinking of visiting the state. Besides HB 1423, Florida lawmakers are currently debating ten other anti-LGBTQ+ bills, according to ACLU.
“As an organization that has spent decades working to improve Florida’s reputation as a welcoming and inclusive place to live work and visit, it is with great sadness that we must respond to those asking if it is safe to travel to Florida or remain in the state as the laws strip away basic rights and freedoms,” said Nadine Smith, Equality Florida Executive Director.
“While losing conferences, and top students who have written off Florida threatens lasting damage to our state, it is most heartbreaking to hear from parents who are selling their homes and moving because school censorship, book bans and health care restrictions have made their home state less safe for their children.
“We understand everyone must weigh the risks and decide what is best for their safety, but whether you stay away, leave or remain we ask that you join us in countering these relentless attacks.”
BREAKING: Today, we took the extraordinary step of issuing a travel advisory, warning of the risks posed to the health, safety, and freedom of those considering short or long term travel, or relocation to the state. pic.twitter.com/Wt8I5r90w9
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And people think I’m going overboard when I say gays need start arming ourselves in our own defense of loonies in the republican fascist party, like the turd in this article.
With “Stand Your Ground” Laws and “The Gay Panic” and “Grooming” as legal defenses combined with the new Law that any Wack job can carry guns, any LGBTQI persons who lives or vacations in Florida are asking to die.
And Governor DeAnus and Law Enforcement will laugh at these “Drag Shows”. That is dragging your dead body through their streets.
And yet, can anyone please explain why we are in the business of kiddie shows and bringing this reign of terror down on the whole community? What do you think is being achieved – other than opening the door for these rotten bigots to accuse us of being predators?
We were all just minding our own business when some idiot woman in San Francisco named “Michelle Tea” thought, “wouldn’t it be a great idea for drag queens to read stories to pre-schoolers?”
No, it wasn’t a great idea, moron.
So here we are having to fight domestic terrorists and save our brothers in drag who are now targets. This is all due to the stupidity of LGBTQIA+ leadership.
If you have the time (LOL) please take control and become the leadership. I feel sorry for you at this point and I want you to get your way. It might mean we never have to hear you complain anymore. A win win!
Very well said. I enjoy watching drag, but the first drag queen story hour I saw was on SNL with Ru Paul holding a Nancy Drew book, remarking about her playing with herself. It was highly inappropriate for the kids in the skit. If that’s what it is, yeah — it’s stupid.
abfab, I’m pretty good at picking up on parody. The children in the skit were real children. If it was an attempt at parody, it was abysmally executed. And again — was moronic, proving inbama’s point.
Who, exactly, is this “leadership?” Who do you think is making these decisions?
No one has forced anyone into drag queen story hours. Their parents decided to take them. This is a decision these parents made for their progeny. These parents were there at the story hours as well and none of them seemed to complain. The complaints are coming from people who are ignorant of what went on.
These conservatives, and I know inbama doesn’t think he is a conservative but he is playing into the narrative of these anti-gay politicians, didn’t need anything to come after us. They were going to do it all the time. Just as they came after Roe they had been promising to come after Obergefell. Turning on drag queens won’t help us. Turning of trans people won’t change anything.
@dbmcvey “No one has forced anyone into drag queen story hours. Their parents decided to take them. This is a decision these parents made for their progeny.” I couldn’t agree more. Parents get to decide. After all, as you put it, these are decisions that “parents made for their progeny.” Which is why I’m confused when I read that teachers are keeping kids’ transitions from their parents. A parent can make a decision about drag queen story hour but is not allowed input on their own progeny’s transition? As the trans community tells us over and over again trans has existed for all of recorded human history without a trans community and without ever involving children who are not old enough to provide legally informed consent. Ironic given that a conservative SCOTUS judge seated by a conservative President wrote the decision that made trans a protected class under civil rights laws. Maybe you can tell us “Who, exactly, is this “leadership?” Who do you think is making these decisions?”, for the trans community and why was the rest of the LGBTQIA+ community not consulted. Judging from the comments section, there’s obviously some dissent.
Apparently my first answer didn’t make it past the moderators.
Having been raised by conservative religious parents I completely understand why it is sometimes not good to make the parents aware. We’re also talking about older people at that point.
@dbmcvey – You say the parents are entitled to make decisions for their kids in one situation, then in another, one that seems painful to you personally, they don’t. So, sometimes it is OK to not inform the parents? Who gets to decide and who appointed them and when was that meeting? At this point I’m not trusting their decisions. None of them are inspiring confidence. None. Let me repeat that, None. I’ll take imperfect parents deciding over imperfect anonymous proclamations from on high from who knows. Everywhere I look I see bills targeting the trans community that catch the rest of the community in it. What weapons are they using to fight this battle against us? The ones the trans community gave them. Our community is losing rights because of the trans community’s war against anyone who doesn’t agree one hundred percent. The most galling part? Those same communities save for a few issues would like to help.
Tell you what, abfab. I’m gonna start counting now and update the tally every time you address me. I’ll count repeated words each time and count adjectives as nouns. So your last post yielded 2: “bigot” and “asshole”.
@dbmcvey – Excellent. So the children that started transitioning but ultimately decided against it can sue you when they realize their double mastectomy isn’t reversible. Their parents too? Tell Layla Jane that. Tell the Tavistock Clinic that. I’m sure your explanation of caring more for the safety of the kids than the ego of the parents will bring comfort to both.
Having trouble getting through the moderator here.
The only sources I can find for Layla Jane are right wing conservative sources which makes me question it, but, the number of people who detransition is very small and the vast majority are grateful. Also, that surgery would not be done without parental approval.
Make no mistake, they were always coming after ALL of us. Drag queens and trans people were just the targets they chose first. Whatever we did they were going to come after our rights.
Yes, this is just the beginning. The focus on drag queens and children is a ruse, and this video proves it. They want to “erase” the community and will use drag queens as an excuse to do it. But I do have a question: these lawmakers will be more than happy when gay people are gone from the state of Florida, and that’s their goal… why are so many gay people there doing exactly what they want? Is that what Equality Florida is also aiming for?
Lgbtqia+ are a smokescreen. Don’t buy it. Don’t believe it. It covers up the bigger issue of guns money and building a GOP with real policies and issues. The party is bankrupt of ideas that are active and historically tradition. Now its the party of everything anti liberal.
There is zero news here.
There are millions going into lobbying by gun manufacturers and NRA thrive on sales and kickbacks.
In Canada a lobbyist can suggest a new bill or needed law. But its a long process as the bureaucracy builds the idea into law or a working bill.
In the USA the majority of the lobbyist’s bill the majority of the final wording.
Follow the money and the power.
Anyone saying pedophiles and gays are the same recruiters are aware they are lying. They have gay lovers friends, family and other politicians.
The policy is theow up a smokescreen and make killing about mental health not about the facts:
G U N S ! Its a unique problem in all G60 countries only found in USA.
It could start a revolution to change rights to bare arms only as rifle and gun that are non automatic, no added accessories, no guns that mutilate entire areas of animals and humans. Devastating shredding of areas of contact and near liquefaction of organs and intestines.
Rebuilding a person hit by one automatic high range assault weapon can take 5 operations that last 6 to 12 hours each operation.
Most never survive.
Most don’t want to survive.
The disability issues cost society and insurance plans hundreds of millions a year.
Banning assault weapons and taxing $1 million income earners a year more than 18% would eliminate poverty
It could end #1 cause of youth death by guns, and finance a anti poverty and affordable subsidized public housing to end homelessness.
We can do that.
Its achievable.
It can be done
The politics of greed grifting and being re elected for a bigger pension after 6 to 40 years is what many politicians crave for.
Greed Avarice fear of struggle as a senior financially and a need for maximum sex power and stardom.
Media Whores like M Taylor Green.
Cheap media whores
Some very good points that I agree with. One thing, I don’t believe the idea that some far right politicians don’t feel the way they verbalize or vote because they happen to have gay friends or family. We have seen first hand how politicians are cowards and willing to turn their backs on others when the chips are down. So, thinking that you can vote for someone that has not openly shown or stated support for our community is a farce and a pipe dream. Most politicians are bought by the highest bidder. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is fact. It’s sad, but many of our LGBT+ friends and family living in South FL are living in denial. I’ve had close friends say, “oh, it really isn’t like that here, the Gov. & his administration have a wink, wink, nod, nod, attitude towards the gay community, especially in Wilton.” Please stop fooling yourself, they would take every right you have if they could. It is time again for the LGBT+ community to take to the streets like in 80’s & 90″s!
Ron Deathsantis just signed the 6 week abortion ban in Florida. He will NEVER hold public office on a national level aka POTUS bc of his extreme views. For some reason, Florida has turned into a banana republic. That’s why Trumpf went running down there after New York evicted him. The GQP are creating these ridiculous bills to cater to the lowest common denominator aka MAGA losers
Here’s yet another one of these guys who looks like if you put a bit of makeup on him, wrapped a boa around his neck, he would be a fierce drag queen. Also, put a couple of beers in him and … well, I personally wouldn’t touch him with a ten-foot pole, but somebody might.
The article is about a FL politician, that looks like he’s high on meth or ecstasy, calling for the annihilation of the LGBT+ community. The take home here is that FL’s government is controlled by fascist politicians that would eradicate the entire LGBT+ community given the chance … just like in the Nazi Germany!
Anyone who doesn’t take right-wing fanatics like this seriously is asking to be destroyed. They are telling us out loud what they want to do to us, so people should believe them. They are not joking. They are not kidding. They are deadly serious and will use any lever, legal or illegal, to ram their deeply unpopular, extreme ideas and policies into law!
I haven’t heard one republican speak policies..Healthcare, medicare,medicade ,cost of Prescriptions, inflation from food to clothing to.housing prices, rents and buying cars..to China, Japan, putin ,Ukraine. Etc I have heard DeSantis fighting with Disneyland , pushing anti gay , drag queens kids and transgendered people ALOT if elected he will do it across the country banning everything lgbtq+ books etc..when you have no agenda or policies deflect blamelgays and make sure women don’t have anymore children.
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abfab
Who wants to take this one? I’m out.
Prax07
And people think I’m going overboard when I say gays need start arming ourselves in our own defense of loonies in the republican fascist party, like the turd in this article.
Richpontone
With “Stand Your Ground” Laws and “The Gay Panic” and “Grooming” as legal defenses combined with the new Law that any Wack job can carry guns, any LGBTQI persons who lives or vacations in Florida are asking to die.
And Governor DeAnus and Law Enforcement will laugh at these “Drag Shows”. That is dragging your dead body through their streets.
inbama
And yet, can anyone please explain why we are in the business of kiddie shows and bringing this reign of terror down on the whole community? What do you think is being achieved – other than opening the door for these rotten bigots to accuse us of being predators?
We were all just minding our own business when some idiot woman in San Francisco named “Michelle Tea” thought, “wouldn’t it be a great idea for drag queens to read stories to pre-schoolers?”
No, it wasn’t a great idea, moron.
So here we are having to fight domestic terrorists and save our brothers in drag who are now targets. This is all due to the stupidity of LGBTQIA+ leadership.
abfab
If you have the time (LOL) please take control and become the leadership. I feel sorry for you at this point and I want you to get your way. It might mean we never have to hear you complain anymore. A win win!
dwick
they’re not going to make you head kapo no matter how much you beg
inbama
And you queens who think the rollback of gay rights and threats of assault are so funny have the nerve to call Jenner “Trans Judas?”
Look in your mirrors and you’ll see Gay Judas.
FreddieW
Very well said. I enjoy watching drag, but the first drag queen story hour I saw was on SNL with Ru Paul holding a Nancy Drew book, remarking about her playing with herself. It was highly inappropriate for the kids in the skit. If that’s what it is, yeah — it’s stupid.
cc423
Hiding in your closet never works out
DBMC
Can you please explain why you think you need to control what shows parents can take their children to.
abfab
She’s too dumb. Don’t ask her such hard questions.
abfab
Frederick. SNL is specializes in parody. So does Ru. Are you really this clueless?
FreddieW
abfab, I’m pretty good at picking up on parody. The children in the skit were real children. If it was an attempt at parody, it was abysmally executed. And again — was moronic, proving inbama’s point.
dbmcvey
@inbama & FreddieW
Who, exactly, is this “leadership?” Who do you think is making these decisions?
No one has forced anyone into drag queen story hours. Their parents decided to take them. This is a decision these parents made for their progeny. These parents were there at the story hours as well and none of them seemed to complain. The complaints are coming from people who are ignorant of what went on.
These conservatives, and I know inbama doesn’t think he is a conservative but he is playing into the narrative of these anti-gay politicians, didn’t need anything to come after us. They were going to do it all the time. Just as they came after Roe they had been promising to come after Obergefell. Turning on drag queens won’t help us. Turning of trans people won’t change anything.
mastik8
@dbmcvey “No one has forced anyone into drag queen story hours. Their parents decided to take them. This is a decision these parents made for their progeny.” I couldn’t agree more. Parents get to decide. After all, as you put it, these are decisions that “parents made for their progeny.” Which is why I’m confused when I read that teachers are keeping kids’ transitions from their parents. A parent can make a decision about drag queen story hour but is not allowed input on their own progeny’s transition? As the trans community tells us over and over again trans has existed for all of recorded human history without a trans community and without ever involving children who are not old enough to provide legally informed consent. Ironic given that a conservative SCOTUS judge seated by a conservative President wrote the decision that made trans a protected class under civil rights laws. Maybe you can tell us “Who, exactly, is this “leadership?” Who do you think is making these decisions?”, for the trans community and why was the rest of the LGBTQIA+ community not consulted. Judging from the comments section, there’s obviously some dissent.
abfab
Freddie. If you’re using SNL skits to PROP UP YOUR BIGOTED WAYS AND ASSHOLISMS, try harder. Most SNL skits are moronic.
Keep blabbing your hate. Then just sashay away.
dbmcvey
@Mastik
Apparently my first answer didn’t make it past the moderators.
Having been raised by conservative religious parents I completely understand why it is sometimes not good to make the parents aware. We’re also talking about older people at that point.
mastik8
@dbmcvey – You say the parents are entitled to make decisions for their kids in one situation, then in another, one that seems painful to you personally, they don’t. So, sometimes it is OK to not inform the parents? Who gets to decide and who appointed them and when was that meeting? At this point I’m not trusting their decisions. None of them are inspiring confidence. None. Let me repeat that, None. I’ll take imperfect parents deciding over imperfect anonymous proclamations from on high from who knows. Everywhere I look I see bills targeting the trans community that catch the rest of the community in it. What weapons are they using to fight this battle against us? The ones the trans community gave them. Our community is losing rights because of the trans community’s war against anyone who doesn’t agree one hundred percent. The most galling part? Those same communities save for a few issues would like to help.
FreddieW
Dearest abfab, I don’t recall saying anything hateful to you nor calling you any names. But I stopped counting the insults and names in your posts.
FreddieW
Tell you what, abfab. I’m gonna start counting now and update the tally every time you address me. I’ll count repeated words each time and count adjectives as nouns. So your last post yielded 2: “bigot” and “asshole”.
dbmcvey
@Mastik8
So, you think these situations are equivalent? I’m concerned about the safety of the child, not the ego of the parent.
mastik8
@dbmcvey – Excellent. So the children that started transitioning but ultimately decided against it can sue you when they realize their double mastectomy isn’t reversible. Their parents too? Tell Layla Jane that. Tell the Tavistock Clinic that. I’m sure your explanation of caring more for the safety of the kids than the ego of the parents will bring comfort to both.
dbmcvey
@mastik
Having trouble getting through the moderator here.
The only sources I can find for Layla Jane are right wing conservative sources which makes me question it, but, the number of people who detransition is very small and the vast majority are grateful. Also, that surgery would not be done without parental approval.
dbmcvey
@mastik
These situations are not, in any way, equivalent.
In the first case they would hear a story with others and parents nearby.
In the second they could wind up unhoused or worse.
dario717
Maybe it’s the stupid hicks we should eliminate from society.
inbama
Careful, dear. After Nashville, the FBI may be on the lookout for comments like that.
abfab
bama, after every comment you make the CDC should be on the lookout for you. You’re ill.
inbama
Oh, another insult from abfab who never has anything worthwhile to contribute to a conversation.
So what else is new?
abfab
Interesting…..you see no problem threatening people with FBI threats and scaring the shit out of them.
Have a nice day, bama.
cc423
So why does Queerty continually post ads inviting us all to spend our money in Florida? It’s offensive.
abfab
Corporate.
DBMC
Make no mistake, they were always coming after ALL of us. Drag queens and trans people were just the targets they chose first. Whatever we did they were going to come after our rights.
Doug
Yes, this is just the beginning. The focus on drag queens and children is a ruse, and this video proves it. They want to “erase” the community and will use drag queens as an excuse to do it. But I do have a question: these lawmakers will be more than happy when gay people are gone from the state of Florida, and that’s their goal… why are so many gay people there doing exactly what they want? Is that what Equality Florida is also aiming for?
GayEGO
Well, Randy Fine is stupid! Science proved we are part of normal society in 1970 and we are everywhere. We will never be erased!
SUPREME
if he thinks that could happen, he’s in for a very big disappointment.
abfab
Rhonda Santis ignores Fort Lauderdale while it sinks. Shocking!
Kangol2
DeFascist has a presidency to run for, so for him, poor drowning Ft. Lauderdale be d@mned!
LunaSol2010
Lgbtqia+ are a smokescreen. Don’t buy it. Don’t believe it. It covers up the bigger issue of guns money and building a GOP with real policies and issues. The party is bankrupt of ideas that are active and historically tradition. Now its the party of everything anti liberal.
There is zero news here.
There are millions going into lobbying by gun manufacturers and NRA thrive on sales and kickbacks.
In Canada a lobbyist can suggest a new bill or needed law. But its a long process as the bureaucracy builds the idea into law or a working bill.
In the USA the majority of the lobbyist’s bill the majority of the final wording.
Follow the money and the power.
Anyone saying pedophiles and gays are the same recruiters are aware they are lying. They have gay lovers friends, family and other politicians.
The policy is theow up a smokescreen and make killing about mental health not about the facts:
G U N S ! Its a unique problem in all G60 countries only found in USA.
It could start a revolution to change rights to bare arms only as rifle and gun that are non automatic, no added accessories, no guns that mutilate entire areas of animals and humans. Devastating shredding of areas of contact and near liquefaction of organs and intestines.
Rebuilding a person hit by one automatic high range assault weapon can take 5 operations that last 6 to 12 hours each operation.
Most never survive.
Most don’t want to survive.
The disability issues cost society and insurance plans hundreds of millions a year.
Banning assault weapons and taxing $1 million income earners a year more than 18% would eliminate poverty
It could end #1 cause of youth death by guns, and finance a anti poverty and affordable subsidized public housing to end homelessness.
We can do that.
Its achievable.
It can be done
The politics of greed grifting and being re elected for a bigger pension after 6 to 40 years is what many politicians crave for.
Greed Avarice fear of struggle as a senior financially and a need for maximum sex power and stardom.
Media Whores like M Taylor Green.
Cheap media whores
Wm.
Some very good points that I agree with. One thing, I don’t believe the idea that some far right politicians don’t feel the way they verbalize or vote because they happen to have gay friends or family. We have seen first hand how politicians are cowards and willing to turn their backs on others when the chips are down. So, thinking that you can vote for someone that has not openly shown or stated support for our community is a farce and a pipe dream. Most politicians are bought by the highest bidder. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is fact. It’s sad, but many of our LGBT+ friends and family living in South FL are living in denial. I’ve had close friends say, “oh, it really isn’t like that here, the Gov. & his administration have a wink, wink, nod, nod, attitude towards the gay community, especially in Wilton.” Please stop fooling yourself, they would take every right you have if they could. It is time again for the LGBT+ community to take to the streets like in 80’s & 90″s!
cuteguy
Ron Deathsantis just signed the 6 week abortion ban in Florida. He will NEVER hold public office on a national level aka POTUS bc of his extreme views. For some reason, Florida has turned into a banana republic. That’s why Trumpf went running down there after New York evicted him. The GQP are creating these ridiculous bills to cater to the lowest common denominator aka MAGA losers
Karlis
Here’s yet another one of these guys who looks like if you put a bit of makeup on him, wrapped a boa around his neck, he would be a fierce drag queen. Also, put a couple of beers in him and … well, I personally wouldn’t touch him with a ten-foot pole, but somebody might.
Wm.
He really has creepy pedo eyes!
Wm.
The article is about a FL politician, that looks like he’s high on meth or ecstasy, calling for the annihilation of the LGBT+ community. The take home here is that FL’s government is controlled by fascist politicians that would eradicate the entire LGBT+ community given the chance … just like in the Nazi Germany!
Kangol2
Anyone who doesn’t take right-wing fanatics like this seriously is asking to be destroyed. They are telling us out loud what they want to do to us, so people should believe them. They are not joking. They are not kidding. They are deadly serious and will use any lever, legal or illegal, to ram their deeply unpopular, extreme ideas and policies into law!
Terrycloth
I haven’t heard one republican speak policies..Healthcare, medicare,medicade ,cost of Prescriptions, inflation from food to clothing to.housing prices, rents and buying cars..to China, Japan, putin ,Ukraine. Etc I have heard DeSantis fighting with Disneyland , pushing anti gay , drag queens kids and transgendered people ALOT if elected he will do it across the country banning everything lgbtq+ books etc..when you have no agenda or policies deflect blamelgays and make sure women don’t have anymore children.