Twelve.
Some things come great in twelves — eggs, doughnuts, Grindr notifications.
But it’s not an encouraging polling number, and that’s the percentage at which Donald Trump‘s LGBTQ support currently stands.
Despite the overwhelming rejection of the candidate by queer communities, Donald didn’t waste the opportunity at a recent Colorado rally to once again play the “pro gay” Republican character that one needs only to look at the facts to know is offensively inauthentic.
Related: Here’s What Donald Trump Said At That Antigay Rally In Orlando
Trump grabbed the flag from the audience, which read “LGBTs For Trump,” waving it around as if performing some grand feat.
The problem, of course, is his record. Trump opposes same-sex marriage and has promised to put justices on the Supreme Court who would overturn Obergefell. He’s even said he’s against same-sex couples receiving spousal benefits.
He, like his even more adamantly antigay running mate Mike Pence, supports the First Amendment Defense Act, which would essentially allow anyone to discriminate against LGBTQ people on religious grounds.
Related: Mike Pence’s Seven Most Vicious Homophobic Moments (There’s A Lot To Choose From)
We can’t think of a single reason to support Trump for the presidency, but if we were looking for one, his attitudes and positions towards the gay community wouldn’t rise to the top.
Trump can wave a flag all he wants, but it’s a good thing 88 percent of LGBTQs see right through his showboating.
Watch below:
1EqualityUSA
History will not remember this man well.
leobaga
To all my lgbtq brothers and sisters, don’t believe the lies in this article. Trump correctly said, same sex marriage “is the law of the land.”
In >200 years, once civil rights are recognized and granted, they have NEVER EVER been rescinded. Obergefell was also based on Loving and the 14th’s equal protection clause + due process clauses as well. To overturn Obergefell would be to overturn Loving AND Lawrence. And THAT will NEVER happen.
Marriage has been considered a fundamental right since Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190, 205, 211 (1888) + 14 cases since then, including Loving v. Virginia and Lawrence v. Texas.
1EqualityUSA
Religious “liberty” is the long, narrow fellow in the grass.
1EqualityUSA
Emily Dickinson “long, narrow fellow in the grass.”
1EqualityUSA
My brain remembered it wrongly, there’s no “long” in there, perhaps I was thinking of Trump’s fingers.
Hank
if trump win, it will be as bad or worse than george w. Bush, that americans go run back to the democrats in the next elections, was what made Obama elected.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@leobaga: If Trump did not have Pence on the ticket – I’d be voting for him.
PrinceofReason
This man is a total tool. He needs to be gone.
PrinceofReason
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: Explain the slogan “Make America Great Again” to me, then we can have a meaningful conversation about a Trump Presidency.
Kieran
America 2016: The Republican nominee for President waves a gay flag on stage at political rally.
GOP homophobes and liberal gay democrats equally mortified.
Mo Bro
Are any of you even aware that there are other issues at stake besides those which affect you personally?
Mack
@leobaga: That’s why he said he would appoint judged TO OVER TURN OBERGEFELL VS HODGES. You can twist it anyway you want BUT THAT’S WHAT SAID. I heard it myself!
Mack
@Mo Bro: Yes and Trump’s answers make absolutely NO SENSE.
DMRX
@leobaga: In case you missed it, it actually took 127 years for that “law of the land” to technically include same-sex relationships.
Do I truly think that Trump might try to undo that? No. He’s just playing the political game of telling people what they want to hear.
Did I vote for him anyway? Hell no. The man is a baffoon.
Brian
At least Trump holds up the flag. What has Hillary done?
jayjay333
@Mo Bro:
Of course – but the ones that affect me personally are also either at or near the top of the list. You don’t think wealthy people, for example, are voting for issues that affect them personally such as lower taxes for the super rich and more IRS loopholes or repeal of inheritance taxes etc.?
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@PrinceofReason: I don’t care about slogans. I want a candidate who speaks openly and honestly about the onslaught of Islam. That’s it. That’s my only concern. That a candidate who says we, as a civilized world, need to unite against Islam. If you can understand that, Mr. Reason, why some gays are voting for Trump (not me, regrettably) then you need to change your nickname.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
*can’t understand
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Brian: This.
http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2016/08/09/876/493/694940094001_5076780807001_080916-clinton-rally3-1280.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
joeyty
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3751777/Huma-Abedin-worked-assistant-editor-mother-s-radical-Muslim-journal-blamed-9-11-Hillary-Clinton-s-aide.html Read about Huma (Hillary’s “adopted daughter”) and the homophobic magazine she worked for.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@joeyty: Your link falls on blind eyes. So do mine. These people just see us and me in particular as demagoguery – they don’t care that I supported Clinton until the killer’s father made an appearance at her speech. Nobody sees that there is something wrong.
ErikO
Clinton certainly does NOT support LGBT rights since she argued for and got both DOMA and DADT passed, went on about how “Marriage is between a woman and man”, is apparently lesbian but deeply closeted, and she and her husband receive millions of dollars from countries that murder and torture us bisexual and gay men and where people there want us all dead, and she wants to bring 500,000 of these people over here.
Bauhaus
“LGBT Americans are our colleagues, our teachers, our soldiers, our friends and our loved ones, and they are full and equal citizens and deserve the rights of citizenship. That includes marriage…that’s why I support marriage for lesbian and gay couples. I support it personally and as a matter of policy and law.”
– Hillary Clinton
Bauhaus
“Gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights.”
– Hillary Clinton
Bauhaus
“Those who would have us ignore the battle being fought over life, marriage and religious liberty have forgotten the lessons of history. America’s darkest moments have come when economic arguments trumped moral principles.”
– Mike Pence, speaking at the Family Research Council’s Values Voter Summit
Mo Bro
@Bauhaus:
“Marriage is always between a man and a woman.”
— Hillary Clinton
Don’t be a cafeteria critic.
1EqualityUSA
If the GOP doesn’t evolve, they will become obsolete. Big business doesn’t do business with obsolete.
Bauhaus
@Mo Bro:
In fairness, here’s what she said in 2000 –
“Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman.”
Clinton has come a long, long way from that position, fully embracing marriage equality and LGBT rights. She’s changed for the better (backed by policy) and deserves both credit and support.
Bauhaus
@Mo Bro:
In 2006, as head of the Republican Study Committee, a group of the 100 most-conservative House members, Pence rose in support of a constitutional amendment that would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman. Citing a Harvard researcher, Pence said in his speech, “societal collapse was always brought about following an advent of the deterioration of marriage and family.” Pence also called being gay a choice and said keeping gays from marrying was not discrimination, but an enforcement of “God’s idea.”
– Time Magazine
Pence hasn’t changed. Not an iota. That’s the difference.
Bauhaus
@1EqualityUSA:
Clinton secures Financial Times endorsement, Trump gets backed by National Enquirer.
ErikO
@Bauhaus: She has not “evolved” at all and is not for LGBT rights or same sex marriage, she just wants us to pretend she is.
Bauhaus
@ErikO:
Lmao
Kangol
Trump supports gay rights like he supports women: only in his mind. Meanwhile, a witness has come forward stating the not only brutally raped a 13-year-old girl but a 12-year-old one, in the company of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Snopes is saying the suit has legs. He’ll be in court to address this and fraudulent Trump University in December!
Ander
@Bauhaus: the trump apologists exist in a kind of inexplicable zone of denial and distortion. Not much can be done about that, apparently, but kudos to you.
Bauhaus
@Ander:
🙂
Bauhaus
Redding, California (CNN) Donald Trump sought to tout his support among African-Americans by pointing out a black man in the crowd and calling him “my African-American.”
“Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him,” Trump said. “Are you the greatest?”
dwes09
@Bauhaus: As i have mentioned on previous comments, recent FMRI imagery has shown that regressives do not form opinion based on fact, but on the opinions of others, faith and wishful thinking. And they are emotion driven to a greater extent than progressives are. Comments like “She has not ‘evolved’ at all and is not for LGBT rights or same sex marriage, she just wants us to pretend she is.” in response to you are simply an example of this.
There is little point in trying to counter their fear based beliefs with the actualities of history or current events. Immigrants are intrinsically dangerous to them because they are scared. Trump is honest because they BELIEVE he is (and notice how much they say that as a response to the actualities of his corruption and lies). Personally I just hope sanity prevails, with the understanding that hope does not change reality (something the regressives will never understand). In a perfect world most people will choose between two flawed candidates based on which is flawed less, which one has pertinent experience in government, and which has presented themselves in the most intelligent and appropriate fashion. They will not choose the one who speaks like a 12 year old and acts like the old Italian dictator from the second world war.
dwes09
@Bauhaus: “‘Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him,” Trump said. ‘Are you the greatest?'”
I saw the video of this. Have to say I was horrified by the tactlessness and stupidity of the comment. I couldn’t believe that even he could be so thoughtless, as if Americans will be his subjects/vassels/serfs should he be elected.
1EqualityUSA
Rachel Maddow 11-01-16: KKK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTtwCwF8Io
leobaga
At the Republican National Convention, Trump broke from party tradition to give a historic shout-out to the LGBT community.
“As your president I will do everything in my power to protect LGBTQ citizens.” – Trump
The line was as unexpected as the reaction it got from the thousands of conservative delegates who are more accustomed to hearing their representatives oppose marriage equality than embrace the gay community.
After the crowd roared in approval, Trump added: “I must say, as a Republican it’s so nice to hear you cheering for what I just said.”
Trump will not only change America, he will also change the GOP for the better. You will see!
Mo Bro
@Bauhaus:
Going after Pence is pointless—as desperate as when libs lost their shit over Sarah Palin.
If the VP is so important to you, then why have you blatantly ignored all of Joe Biden’s so-called “gaffes” in which he has proven himself to be the epitome of one who doesn’t think before he speaks? Why didn’t you object when he labeled Obama America’s “first clean African-American” candidate? Where was your outrage when he asked a colleague’s 13-year-old daughter, “Do you know how horny I am?”
(I know it’s a stupid question, because “He’s a Democrat, so he’s beyond scrutiny,” but you get my point, I’m sure.)