It was always a long shot, but a vocal minority of Republican delegates were holding onto hope that they could move their party away from the near-certain, and now completely-certain nomination of one Donald John Trump, Sr.
In the early hours of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Trump opponents attempted to force a roll call vote of all 2,472 of the convention delegates on the proposed rules.
Those rules, written last week, require pledged delegates to vote according to the results of their states’ primaries and caucuses, virtually clinching the nom for Don.
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“Never Trumpers” thought they had the required signatures to force a full vote on the topic, but after a voice vote within the hall, the presiding official — Rep. Steve Womack — declared the rules were approved.
That’s when all hell broke loose, with the opponents clearly feeling their voices were being unfairly squashed.
At one point, Womback actually walked off the stage amid screams of protest.
Soon he returned to call another voice vote, which he again called in favor of the convention rules as they are.
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“We are now in uncharted territory. Somebody owes us an explanation. I have never seen the chair abandoned like that. They vacated the stage entirely,” said Utah Sen. Mike Lee, one of the biggest players in the move for a roll call vote.
“It’s coercion masking as unity,” Lee said later.
The Republicans have made their bed, and now we all have to Trump in it. It’s going to be one hell of a general election.
Grab the popcorn and watch the drama unfold below:
h/t Politico
Dwight
The person they kept showing at the end was the Chairman of the Virginia delegation, Ken Cuccinelli, who at state attorney general was one of the most virulently anti-gay politicians out there. He took over the part apparatus with his supporters to keep Trump supporters from getting slots as delegates. Big time Cruz supporter.
money718
@Dwight: Exactly
ErikO
Who are these people?
Bob LaBlah
By the time this convention is over what we just saw here will look more like a Kum-ba-ya sing-along. This is Chicago 1968 all over again.
Kieran
They’re angry that Donald Trump and his *wink wink* “New York Values” soundly whipped the entire crop of traditional GOP homophobes, including virulent Homophobe-In-Chief, Ted Cruz.
darian
I had to turn from this train wreck after they bought out a series of step and fetch its.
Alistair Wiseman
Unlike the lovefest that Bernie Sanders supporters are showering Hillary with?
Alistair Wiseman
@darian:
Yes, you keep pledging your devotion to the Democratic plantation. That Kool-Aid is sooo delicious. Drink it all the way down just like they need you to.
Kangol
@darian: Did you hear the newest hilarity from the circus in Cleveland? Melania Trump, or her speechwriters or both, plagiarized passages from Michelle Obama’s 2008 Democratic Convention speech. After the melee that opened the clown show and the roster of crazy speakers, you get this hot mess. The anti-gay GOP is still not ready for prime time!
@Alistair Wiseman: We get it, we get it. You hate Democrats, you hate liberals, you hate people who fought for and ensured your rights to equality, and to support right-wing anti-gay politicians. Do you want a demerit badge or something?
darian
@Alistair Wiseman: Oh Alistair honey since we’re giving out advice voting for homophobes and bigots isn’t gonna make mommy and daddy love you for sucking dick you sad little man.
darian
@Kangol: Yes I did and I’m loving every bit of the shade. Especially after Steve king ran off at the mouth about sub groups not contributing as much to civilization as white…. Looks like we contribute a whole hell of alot hahaha.
mw11
There was no chaos. CNN and MSNBC immediately sent out ridiculous newsletters about parsing words and “language”.
The media coverage didn’t show key Republicans like Rudy Giuliani who mentioned about protecting gay peoples’ lives on the streets and expressing solidarity with us gay people.
Please remember that your gay brothers were massacred in Orlando — due to an ideology that no one wants to acknowledge. Our community has bizarrely tried to find alternative villains. Recently, a truck in the South of France murdered and killed children and mothers, fathers and kids. That terr0rist was screaming scriptures from his holy book. NRA has very little to do with it. Trump has little to do with it. In fact, your Pride festivals in Southern France will likely be cancelled due to those attacks.
Furthermore, Democrats failed tragically in Benghazi. I implore you to objectively watch the legal depositions from Hillary to Congress on youtube. Please note that one of your one gay brothers, an ambassador and government employee was murdered — due to, certainly Hillary’s incompetence and neglect, but also to a bizarre submission to an ideology that the left redefines as “workplace violence”.
So grow a spine. Stop making Trump and other things a villain and deluding yourselves. Otherwise, please emigrate to Saudi Arabia, Uganda and Iran.
joeyty
Too funny watching certain hick Democrats ( not all ) screeching how Trump (being from Jew York City) doesn’t represent their version of “Murica.”
joeyty
@mw11: Gays are in such freak-out mode about world events they’re trying to blame anybody and anything except Islam. It’s almost a psychotic shift-the-blame movement. Imagine what’s going to happen when massacres, including the anti-gay ones, start to double and triple in the U.S. and Europe?
darian
@mw11: It’s so funny that you log cabin queens wanna Ra -Ra for Republican’s forgetting that this whole hunt for weapons of mass destruction sent that whole region into turmoil. And I’m waiting for you “I’m not one of those gays” queers to stop acting like you give a fuck about gays in the middle east or and black or brown country when you don’t about about the ones here. So you and the rest of the irrelevant neglected log cabin queens can take that shit else where.
Mo Bro
Looking forward to all the stories about the DNC convention chaos when Bernie’s rabid supporters raise hell over Hillary’s nomination . . . just not on this site. Or NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, newspapers, or any other medium that’s just as intentionally biased.
Matt Achine
@darian: Violent perpetrators only matter to them now because of Pulse nightclub. Violence in general only matters because of brown perpetrators. They’re so incensed at the thought of their routine lives being disrupted by violence, but have nothing to say about those disruptions ending the life of others during a traffic stop. They’re silent on Oath Keepers & RNC gun whores, showing up armed in hopes of the race war they’ve been masturbating about. But be a fucking idiot if you want to, assuming that a Republican vote is anything other than your own repression in disguise. Yes, join the party that created radical Islam to start with and thinks that walls or loyalty tests will keep it out.
Mo Bro
@Matt Achine: Republicans created radical Islam?
My my, you certainly have been chugging the liberal Kool-Aid, haven’t you?
(if you look it up, I believe you’ll find that Islam predates the Republican party by at least a dozen centuries or so . . . pesky facts that they are)
DCguy
@Alistair Wiseman:
Alistair, just once, instead of ranting in a deranged ramble about “libtards” and the Dem Plantation…..how about you just once explain why lgbts SHOULD vote Republican.
All you ever do is come on screaming about people voting dem and saying things about Clinton, but the one thing you have never ever been able to do is articulate any reason why any of us should consider voting Republican. If you can’t even explain your own motivations for voting for the party, that is pathetic. Oh and by the way Calling Hillary a bitch doesn’t count as providing a detail on why to vote Republican.
Masc Pride
It wasn’t exactly “chaos”. CNN didn’t even have it as Breaking News for more than an hour at most. lol
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Mo Bro: Maybe you should read up on how the Regan administration, spearheaded by Burjinsky, recruited, trained, encouraged, and armed the “Arab and Afghan Mujahideen” in the 80s. The Wahabis of Arabia would have never left their little Rock if it wasn’t for the American proxy war with Soviets.
Now I know this doesn’t fit your narrative about Islam being a “demonic religion” but reality and facts are a b*tch.
Kangol
@joeyty: Please stop your anti-Semitic slurs! What the heck is wrong with you? That term for New York is hateful, so stop it! It’s clear you’re a N@zi supremacist, but take that crap elsewhere and leave it off Queerty!
Kangol
@mw11: Are you unaware that under George W. Bush, there were THIRTEEN Benghazis? That under George W. Bush 4,000+ US servicepeople died in Iraq and Afghanistan, including many gay military people? That under George W. Bush 2300+ people, including many gay people, were burnt alive or leapt to their deaths in the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001? Are you so clueless that you don’t realize that under Ronald W. Reagan, we had the worst attack on our Marines in US history? Benghazi was a tragedy but the GOP has tried to use it to obscure the multiple horrific attacks under Bush. And you know who empowered radical Islam? Reagan and George H. W. Bush supporting the Mujihadeen (including Osama bin Laden) and Iran (to fight Iraq, whom the US had pushed to fight Iran–LOOK IT UP), and George W. Bush, who was working hand in glove with Saudi Arabia, which spreads radical Wahabist Islam. So please, look beyond Fox News, and you’ll understand why we’re in the situation we’re in! AND TRUMP SUPPORTED CLINTON! WAKE UP!
mw11
@joeyty: @joeyty: Thanks for responding and expressing your ideas respectfully.
In fact, European gays understand this phenomenon. European gays are being harassed and attacked on the streets daily. While they understand that conservative politics may not always agree, they are largely supportive of conservative politics in their countries amid their immigration disaster (happening SINCE WWII unlike the commenter incorrectly who suggested Iraq, Syria and WMD was fully to blame). Those European gays seek to protect their own lives, happiness and survival against ideologies and elements that call for harming gays.
The conversation strangely breaks down in the US gay community. Important questions are bizarrely reframed to other irrelevant debates that do not necessarily protect our safety, lives, minds, bodies, souls, happiness and survival.
For example, this article was slanted, divisive and partisan to begin with (even in its title). It also missed out importantly on how there actually were Republicans advocating for Gay people at the RNC and calling for solidarity amidst the tragic attacks against us. Yet, CNN, MSNBC, Hillary and Bernie’s divisive politics do what EXACTLY what another commenter did in his comment. He like some others in our community do … immediately turn into ranting discussions about other topics such as WMD, Iraq war, Trump … other people in our community go into Brexit, Christianity, Misogny, or whatever divisive issue. Then to top it all of, the debate often ends with negative personal comments. Truly disgusting and a bizarre distortion of the truth.
Everybody, please understand there are ideologies whose scriptures about Gay people and others should concern them far, far, far more than the comments from Trump, RNC, or whatever bizarre distraction. Orlando happened tragically in the biggest attack since 9/11. Nice France happened as the terrorist shouted scripture. All of these and many more attacks involve an ideology whose lethal and cruel views on Gay peoples’ survival and happiness gay people should take a look at.
Kangol
@mw11:You are being completely ahistorical. Why?
their immigration disaster (happening SINCE WWII unlike the commenter incorrectly who suggested Iraq, Syria and WMD was fully to blame)
The massive immigration to Europe is the result of 1) Europe’s formal colonial domination of the rest of the globe and 2) the European need for cheap labor. Muslims immigrated primarily to either the countries that colonially dominated their countries (France, Spain, etc.) or that 2) sought workers from the Global South (as did Netherlands, Germany, etc.). Immigration doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Moreover, Islamic immigrants were not harassing gay people on the street 10 years ago; I know, I’ve spent time in Europe. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (and before that, the neverending Occupation of Palestine) exacerbated the backlash, as has the US and other Western countries’ support for dictators in the Middle East. Also, you may be unaware, but the US is now fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, etc. Do you think that this has no effect on people over there, or people here who are radicalized by Wahhabist Islam? Radical Islamic terrorism is horrendous, but it threatens everyone, not just gay people. But the West’s destabilizing wars also are a huge problem. That you consider Conservative and evangelical anti-gay hate “a distraction” says it all, though.
Bob LaBlah
@Kangol: I agree with nearly all of your comment but the word police will not let me be specific. This site HATES to have history brought up in comments by some people and I am obviously one of them. I can’t help but notice how much free will you seem to have, but thats another story.
I was going to touch on the end of that war that happened one hundred years ago and how the Middle East has never been the same. Once kings are APPOINTED by a foreign power it won’t be the next day but be patient, they will fall. Remember the Shah?
mw11
@Bob LaBlah: Umm, the Shah didn’t kill gays in the 60s and 70s. Now the Islamic Revolution does. Today, right now! So you might night like American politics and certainly are biased, but there are far more dangerous places that are harming your gay brothers and sisters.
mw11
@kangol Evangelicals didn’t murder dozens of gay people in an American Gay night club, in the LARGEST terror attack since 9/11. Did Buddhists crash planes into buildings or slaughter us in our nightclubs?
And shame on you about your personal comment on 9.11. I lost many friends and family in those buildings. Your comment was atrocious.
Americans asked themselves after 9/11: Why do some people hate Humans / Americans / Gays / Us /People? Well it certainly isn’t because of your wealth or freedom, which the media tried to explain, because the Gulf nations have more of your petrodollars, wealth and make more money than you. And it isn’t because of Trump or other distractions.
This commenter argued that the last 30 years of HISTORY caused this all. He listed a lot of countries. He suggested his academic Post-Colonial and Post-Modernist theory. In response, the community is so easy to attack, label, and not understand longstanding issues.
Please go back hundreds of years and even before WW11 and Israel that caused immigration, wars and turmoil. The terror attacks that both Clintons sheepishly weren’t able to prevent, especially Bill Clinton.
Post-colonialism and modernism you raise sir Mr. Kangoi? Are you in Academia? How long did live in Europe? How long did you live in the Middle East? Have you studied the sacred texts which inspire murder? Did you study them in Arabic or English? Which language do you prefer to study those sacred texts? How they pan to deal with Gay people?
So when these terrorist in NICE France screamed the literal central pillar of Islam in Arabic while he ran over kids, infants, mothers and brothers trying to celebrate … did your mind decide this was Reagan and George Bush’s fault. I’m truly intrigued on the way your mind rationalizes or mis-rationalizes truth.
Bob LaBlah
@mw11: As I stated, I am not being allowed to say what I want to say but you have me wrong. I was not referring to the murdering of gays in any country. I wanted to touch on the causes just as Kangol always seems to be able to do with ease. Thats not all I have noticed about his comments either but I won’t press my luck in trying to get this comment posted and just keep it to myself regardless of how obvious something is beginning to get.
DCguy
@mw11: stated: In fact, European gays understand this phenomenon. European gays are being harassed and attacked on the streets daily.
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No, actually rates of crime there are far lower, and I guess Orlando wasn’t lgbts being attacked, and the entire GOP platform isn’t an attack, and GOP attempts to outlaw punishing bullies in school if they use religion as an excuse isn’t an attack.
I’m so sorry, did facts ruin things for you?