Apparently Tom Arnold is the best friend a guy could ever want: When the former Mr. Roseanne Barr went on Conan last night, he related a story of chatting with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the former governator was in the hospital recovering from shoulder surgery. (Sly Stallone coincidentally was in the next bed.) Apparently Arnie was still woozy from the anesthesia, because he made some interesting connection between the recent Prop 8 verdict and the male nurse giving his “boys” a bath.
Seriously, you couldn’t pay us enough to take on that kind of hazard duty.
Bill
Is their anything under the sun as vile, smelly and classless as the heterosexual male?
Seriously, ‘bros,’ dress better and take a shower once in awhile.
Read some books. Better yourselves.
Cease building up your own fragile, effeminate egos on the backs of gay people.
Then kiss my ass.
Seriously, ‘bros.’
Seriously.
B
No. 2 · Oh, ok. wrote, “Guys it’s no big deal because the homophobe in question is white. Lets move on.”
Actually, it’s no big deal because the guy in question was free associating due to being heavily medicated, and just spouting random thoughts that came into his head, without there necessarily being any relationship between them.
MEJ
God, they both look like shit. Too many steroids, too much cosmetic surgery, and far too high an opinion of themselves.
christopher di spirito
Tales from the Crypt.
WJoaquin
@Bill: You realize you sound exactly like a Klansman talking about black people, right? Hate is hate. You’re contemptible.
dvlaries
I’ve still got a ways to go forgiving Barr for forcing Arnold on the American public. Sweaty and desperate, the guy’s about as funny as a biopsy needle, and eventually made her as sorry as he made us.
the crustybastard
@dvlaries:
I’m positive Roseanne has sufficiently suffered for that sin.
tom
They are grotesque.
andrew
I could use a nice man on man sponge bath right now
Paul
@Bill: I’m not sure where this idea of straight guys being any more homophobic than straight girls came from. I’m a gay jock who came out in the 8th Grade at a Christian middle school in suburban Minnesota, and I’m one of the most popular guys in school. No one at my school has ever really had a problem with my liking dudes – and most of my friends are straight guys.
When I post stuff like “DAMN David Beckham’s got a good ass. Thanks for that, underwear-company-I-already-forgot,” on Facebook, I get 5 of my straight guy friends in the comments saying, “Lol, dude. You’re such a perv. 😛 (BTW, it’s “H & M” underwear.)” When me and my first boyfriend made our relationship Facebook-Official, it was a solid mix of straight girls telling us we were adorable and straight guys telling me, “Nice, dude!”
So will you please stop acting as if straight dudes are any more of a hive mind than gay dudes? It’s people like you that make the ultra-right-wingers feel justified in writing off gays as “wierdos attacking the normal people.”
Grevin
@Paul:
If what you’re saying is even remotely true, then you are incredibly fortunate. The vast majority of gay men I’ve known however weren’t so lucky.
While I doubt many here support Bill’s bigoted views. I also seriously doubt there are very many here who don’t understand where such anger comes from. That you are one shows your view of the world is just as skewed as his is.
Paul
@Grevin: So because my coming out experience didn’t include a violent rejection from my dad, a few close friends dying of AIDS, and getting almost beaten to death in a locker room by my ex-friends, my view of the world and straight men is “skewed?”
I’m sure there are plenty of homophobic straight guys out there, but I don’t buy that it’s any more than a fraction above the number of homophobic straight girls. Suggesting that I should be assuming “homophobic-until-proven-otherwise” around my dude friends is making just as much of an offensive generalization about a group of people as “Gay men love fashion.” or “White people are bad at dancing.” Those stereotypes are certainly true for some members of each group, but assuming someone from that group will follow that stereotype until they prove you otherwise is the definition of prejudice.
Paul
@Grevin: Just reread your comment, and perhaps I misinterpreted it initially. Sorry about that. But still, saying my lack of anger at straight dudes means I’m naive? Not cool.
christopher di spirito
@Oh, ok.: Do you check under your bed each night to see if there are scary white people lurking there? Dude, you need therapy and quickly.
DavyJones
@Paul: What makes you ‘naive’ (that might not be the best word, perhaps ‘innocent’ is better) is that you haven’t had the experience many gay men have had. You’re community is apparently far more supportive than most; and (judging by the fact that you’re young enough to have your first BF be ‘facebook official’) you likely never witnessed the outright homophobia that drives the anger behind Bill’s post…
That’s Grevin’s point. You should feel quite lucky to have such support, but don’t forget that you situation is far from the norm, and that the level’s of progress we’ve made in the past few decades is really pretty astounding. So you’re going to have to forgive some angry gays who are pissed off at hetro males (and females) for the shit they’ve been put through in the past.
shannon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO………….TIS DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THE KKK ( BUNCH OF DELUSIONAL WHITE PEOPLE WHO DELUSIONALLY THINK THEY ARE A “MAJORITY ( WHEN WHITES MAKE UP….REALLY….SERIOUSLY ONLY %3 OF THE TOTAL GLOBAL POPULACE)….EUROPE FITS INTO AFRICA 8 TIMES…THE US 5 TIMES…..BILLIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE THERE…NOT EVEN NEAR 500 MILLIONS WHITES ON THE PLANET….ALSP BRAZIL HAS THE MOST NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE BESIDES AFRICA…..500 MILLION…..BLACK PEOPLE EXIST IN EVERY NATION ON EARTH…AND THE —ORIGINAL ADAM AND EVE—- SO WHERE DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO “EQUATE” SAME SEX SEX WITH BLKACK PEOPLE???? GO THE FUCK OUT OF HERE…..
@WJoaquin:
WJoaquin
@shannon: When you learn how to spell and type I’ll consider responding to your nonsensical points.
B
In No. 10 · Paul wrote, “I’m a gay jock who came out in the 8th Grade at a Christian middle school in suburban Minnesota, and I’m one of the most popular guys in school.”
As a hint for Paul, the way “gay jocks” are treated in middle school and high school
is not necessarily the way other gays are treated. Usually kids have enough sense to not try to harass classmates who are stronger than they are. I’d suggest reading up on concepts like a “representative sample” or a “random sample” to learn what is wrong with your reasoning.
Paul
@B:
Actually, while I’m the only openly gay guy at my school, there are a ton of straight guys at my school who are about 20 times as flaming as I am, and they’re all pretty popular with everyone too. (Yes, they really are straight and just really comfortable with their sexuality.)
One of them, Maxwell, is super into musicals and jokes about being “Not gay, but a little homoerotic, maybe.” and he’s one of those people EVERYONE at my school likes. Even I’ve got a few people at school that don’t like me (for reasons unrelated to me being gay), but everyone at school likes him.
If anyone actually bullied me for being gay or someone they thought was gay, they’d be the most hated person in school by the end of the week.
Shannon1981
@Paul: Don’t get to comfortable with the straights. You’re obviously a lot younger than most of us are. We know the real deal. Keep letting your guard down like that, and you’ll wind up getting tied to a fence and getting the shit beat out of you.
arbiter
@Paul – Love your story, “Nice dude!” Ha! Definitely not my experience, but I think it’s a sign of changing times and *gasp* progress! Don’t mind the bitter, old queens on here that are probably just jealous you aren’t getting beaten up, called fag and slammed into lockers like they were. The tides are turning, and you, sir, are reaping the benefits. I find your story encouraging and more and more typical of the younger generations today. So, let your guard down, be vulnerable, make friends. When you do encounter someone who singles you out for being different, you’ll be more than strong enough to stare them down AND you’ll have a great group of people watching your back!!
Blahqula
@Shannon1981: Hear Hear, all of these “social underling” straights at his school have a way to the top of the heap, and it’s through him. They may be mouth breathers and too stupid to realize it yet, but give it time.
B
No. 18 · Paul wrote, “@B: Actually, while I’m the only openly gay guy at my school, there are a ton of straight guys at my school who are about 20 times as flaming as I am, and they’re all pretty popular with everyone too.”
That’s nice, but it doesn’t change the problems with trying to draw conclusions from non-representative samples. If you eventually take a college-level course on statistics, or some other classes where this subject matter gets covered, you’ll find out why. It’s really worth understanding – some individuals misuse statistics in order to fool people and if you know how it works, you are far less likely to be fooled.
Grant Mealey
Good for him and nice work
Luis H. Lopez
The trolls are stupid and can’t cook ! I had an easy bake oven today I make cupcakes for all the kids in the family !Gay uncle can bake !!!
Roger Grossklaus
Great Dad! And aren’t some the worlds best chefs men?
Mark Hunziker
Parenting done right.