Kissing — or snogging, as the British (and Madonna used to) say — in high school isn’t something reserved just for couples in love. It’s also a behavior exhibited by perfectly straight blokes who just happen to enjoy the company of their male friends.
Apparently a sign the anti-gay machismo fad of earlier decades is fading, British researchers quizzing 145 university and high school students found 89 percent have kissed on the lips a straight male friend, while 37 percent took part in “sustained” kissing with another man. All of these dudes, meanwhile, identify as straight and didn’t see their lip smacks as sexual behavior.
The trend toward male same-sex smooches has skyrocketed in recent years, Anderson said. It began on the professional soccer field, where players often share exuberate kisses after goals. That made kissing between men acceptable for college and high-school players, Anderson said. Then the players took the same behaviors to nights out in pubs, spreading the trend to non-athletes. Despite stereotypes of the homophobic jock, athletes were more likely to have kissed another man than non-athletes. Just over 80 percent of non-athletes had kissed a man, compared with 95 percent of athletes.
Of the guys in the study who hadn’t shared a same-sex kiss, all found the practice acceptable. One student who had never kissed another lad joked with the researchers that when he told his friends about the study, they’d probably ensure that his classification changed. That night, Anderson received a text from the student reading, “I’m in the majority now.”
The idea that two straight guys can be affectionate with each other in public isn’t terribly new: In much of the Middle East and Southeast Asia, straight male friends hold hands and walk down the street with their arms around one another. Then again, much of that behavior isn’t looked at as “gay” in these cultures because homosexuality is a hidden, unrecognized abnormality for plenty — a concept so foreign that seeing two men kiss couldn’t be considered sexual, because two men are never sexual with each other.
The difference here, of course, is that British high school boys know plenty about The Gay. They’ve just discovered a more fun alternative to high fives. [Live Science]
Okay, time to meet some British men! 😉
I do wonder about the origins of the hang-ups about sex in the USA, both gay and straight (such as depictions on TV).
Them fucking puritans!
This is also happening in certain parts the US. My sister flipped-out when another mother told her about a “spin the bottle” game (who knew kids still played spin the bottle?) in which my nephew was making out with another guy.
When she confronted my nephew he was completely nonchalant, telling her that he’s not gay, but that the girls thought it was hot, and that his kissing a guy made the girls really excited to make out with him.
Well I always thought it was a positive stereotype western europeans had concerning their lax ‘bonding’ attitudes or whatever this is called. It really isn’t a big deal and it shouldn’t.
As the rest of the world moves forward, America is moving backwards, as always. Why can’t we get with the times…..can we say “organized religion” anyone?!?! It seriously all boils down to one main road block – RELIGION! It’s the one last major hang up that is preventing this country from becoming what it can be. Can’t we all just get along and stop pointing the fingers? Two thumbs up to the ‘rest’ of the world!
It’s quite high but it doesn’t really surprise me – (it’s also quite a small sample and students only).
I’d like to know how they define “sustained” kissing, not sure they mean snogging, but be happy if I’m wrong…
Big kiss x
Actually, as I understand it, the new word for kissing is to “pash” – as in passionate. Oh, those wacky kids.
Shouldn't certain gay sites & their commenters stop bullying gays too? ( John from England)
Why did she flip out? Is she homophobic? Nice sis!
I’ve kissed straight guys at high school parties. It’s really not a big deal in america. I mean you wont get away with it in a more conservative state(texas) but everyone here(Las Vegas) has at least kissed a guy once(straight, bi, asexual, whatever). Oh shit, I forgot, what happens here stays here 😀
um how is this kiss done? Is there a difference between the gay to gay kiss with the straight to straight kiss?..
@Shouldn’t certain gay sites & their commenters stop bullying gays too? ( John from England): I should’ve been more clear. My sister is totally cool. My 15yo nephew was supposed to studying at a friend’s house, so the whole lying/no-parent-at-home/spin-the-bottle/making-out-with-girls/guys “thing” caused a motherly melt-down and two weeks grounding of my nephew.
Ah, the fond memories of H.S.
@Matthew: Wrong, I have been kissed by a straight guy in High School at a large party in Texas.
@GlacierGuy: It’s wrong to blame religion for everything. Bigotry exists without religion andtolerance exists with it.
“pash” is an Australian/NZ word. it’s definitely not new. lol.
Being from England (and a student) I can tell you no one’s said pash since about 2006.
@Paschal: Although I agree that you can’t blame “everything” on religion, it’s no coincidence that the most socially progressive countries on the planet are also the least religious.
Let’s be realistic.
@reason: There’s only one kind of straight guy who makes out with another guy in Texas and thats the gay kind. 😀
@Paschal: And yet, much of the anti-gay rhetoric spewed by conservatives is at least religiously charged, if not outright religiously justified. Can we say “the sanctity of marriage”?
Unlike women, men do not kiss each other for the benefit of a third party. Men kiss each other because it’s the way they feel about each other, and not for the benefit of a voyeur who isn’t even a part of the act.
This is why I’m so opposed to females who kiss each other for the benefit of a sleazy male. Firstly, the sleazy male is unlikely to be friendly to gay rights. Secondly, the kissing women are trivializing female-female interactions and contributing to increased hatred towards gay people in general by doing so.
The porn lesbians are the worst. These revolting, repulsive women need to be given short shrift.
The guys from the Jackass movies are known to kiss each other on the lips. I’ve seen pictures of Chris Pontius and Steve-O kissing each other in this way. Neither of them identify as gay.
Well, of to Britain…
@C: It’s an old and common word in Australia. It probably became briefly trendy in the UK through imported Aussie soap operas.
women love this …trust me….just not the ugly ones…
There are videos on YouTube of American boys kissing other boys, some of them because girls dared them to, and they did.
“Men waking down the street holding hands, etc., in the Middle East?” Mighty risky in all the countries I’ve seen.
@reason: Um, Reason, how about some details? Please! Details, now!
I don’t think the straight guy-on-guy kissing is wholly separate
from sexualized kissing. Young people are much less hung up on labels and don’t feel that a little fooling around tags them as “gay”.
The hugely popular youth-oriented TV show “Skins” had a hot male actor playing the alpha male leader of a group of UK high-schoolers. His character was largely straight, but was perfectly cool with dabbling in bisexuality, either for kicks or in order to manipulate others. This isn’t a side character; it is the star of the show and the one most girls would go for, and the one most boys would identify with. He has a hot snogging scene with an openly gay character, which gets big hits on Youtube.
@robert: Puritanism, then McCarthyism and the cold war. It’s a bit confusing exactly why, but the cold war had a lot to do with it.
@Paschal: I certainly don’t blame religion on ‘everything’ – but it is a MAJOR factor in the continued progress of this country. It’s the ‘everybody wants is their way’ gig! If it’s not religion preventing us from getting equal rights, then what is it? Because the churches are the first to jump in the throw large amounts of money for anti-marriage, anti-hate, anti-civil unions and anti-everything campaigns pertaining to GLBT Americans. Religion has it’s good but why can’t they stay out of of America’s bedrooms? As the old saying goes, tend to your own garden, and I’ll tend to mine. Enough said!
Actually, American men were much more affectionate with one another prior to homosexuality becoming mainstream.
Men in America and Europe primarily show physical affection for one another in venues where heterosexuality is presumed.
Most guys assume their teammates are straight, so in sports you see affectionate pats, kisses and hugs.
Only in the absence (or presumed absence) of homosexuality are heterosexual men physically affectionate with one another.
Well, guys, there is also something that is called “BISEXUALITY” you know…. XD L.O.L.
Dave at no. 32,
I fully agree with you.
I was at a bar about 2 years ago where the local sports team was celebrating the end of the season. The men were all over each other – arms around each other’s waists, playing with each other’s hair…genuine physical revelry which they were very comfortable with. For all intents and purpose they looked like lovers minus the kissing.
When heterosexuality is presumed and masculinity assured – as in a sports team that has played and showered together for a season – the men are extremely comfortable with each other.
i know gays have this fetish with str8 guys, but they need to understand that str8 guys will always be str8 and gays will (almost) always be gay and thats it. the fact that 2 str8 guys kiss doesnt mean anything, besides a bit of affection, instead of a hug or handshake.
Be careful with the rash generalities like “gays have this fetish with str8 guys”. I don’t have one.
Yeah Maybe if you were doing this survey at Eaton, Harrow, Westminster, Oxbridge or the more prestigious university of London schools.
I would love to see the local ruffians and chavs in my neighborhood engage in some “totally not gay we’re just mates” kissing because it would be hilarious, and you know give them something to do besides intimidate my boyfriend.
@Michael… I don’t know which Middle East countries you’re referring too; they are all different. However, the first time I went there I found it very confusing… so many guys walking around hand in hand or draped over each other.
Blah blah straight kiss.. As an openly and proud ‘mo, I too once shuffled through the normative world of strightdom. I did not mind it at all to kiss a guy given an opportunity. I didn’t because I felt that kissing anyone was sorta a big deal. Now, everyone is all in arms about what the boys across the pond are doing. One can profess their sexuality any which way they wish, it does not always mean the that who they are.
As far as a fetish of straight guys are concerns, I believe that is totally deeply rooted in porn as a subtext and not really practical in reality. Most of the bloks I know that are open, have very little interest in fellas that would not show equal attention and effection in return. ( In short.. he must be willing to date and have a romatic relationship with another man) Which if you are not into men, that would be problematic and not a good fit.
I just hope that lines are not being blurred as far as what is consider masculine behavior verses effeminate affectionate behavior, and calling it straight or gay.
Un fortunately n the 80’s when I was a British High school (we call it secondary school here in the UK) lad, you used to get beaten up for kissing another guy!
And being gay I always wanted to kiss other guys, unfortunately it didn’t happen till Imwas in my 20’s
have u ever been to southeast asia? there is no such thing as affectionate male touching…
@Malaysia – I think you miss the point.
The point is that the UK and USA are countries that are coming out of a dark period of repression. Hence the news that in Britain a younger generation are finding it acceptable to kiss your male friends, is a real breakthrough.
@AdonisOfFire: Why do you think the Puritans left England? Too liberal.
If you like or love your guy friends, it’s pretty normal to kiss them.
British boys kiss and kiss and kiss
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