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Whomp, whomp: Trump’s most loyal LGBTQ backers say they’re losing hope in their guy

Donald Trump burning a rainbow flag

As Donald Trump gears up to be the first U.S. president ever to speak before a hate group when he addresses the Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C. on Friday, some of his most loyal LGBTQ supporters are beginning to wonder if he really has their back.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump demonstrated his support for the LGBTQ community by waving rainbow flags in front of the TV cameras and saying things like “I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens from the violence and oppression of the hateful, foreign ideology [of Islamist terror]” during the 2016 Republican National Convention.

But now that we’re well into his first year as POTUS, the 14% of LGBTQ who voted for him in hopes that would make good on his promise to be an ally are starting to realize that, maybe, just maybe, that was all a bunch of malarky.

Related: Trump will become first president to speak at hate group gathering

Between the conservative extremists he’s been surrounding himself with in the White House, the hasty transgender ban in the military, and, now, his planned speech before theValues Voters Summit, LGBTQ Trump supporters beginning to see that the guy Gregory T. Angelo, president of the Log Cabin Republicans, once called “the most gay-friendly Republican nominee for president ever”, might not be so gay-friendly after all.

“I definitely have concerns with what is going on at Department of Justice,” Chris Barron, a longtime conservative gay-rights activist, tells the Daily Beast. “[Attorney General Jeff Sessions] has a very different position on LGBT issues than the president does.”

But hope springs eternal. Kind of. Barron says, despite his concerns, he still supports Trump.

He adds that technically it’s Sessions’ job to “carry forward the president’s agenda and not push his own,” however, he adds, “I’m certainly concerned he is [pushing his own].”

Related: Donald Trump books the most antigay of antigay clergy for his doomsday inauguration

Then there’s Jimmy LaSalvia, who started the now-defunct conservative gay rights group GOProud. He tells the Daily Beast:

I never thought that Donald Trump was an anti-gay homophobe. I certainly didn’t think that when I met him back in 2011. But we’ve all learned a lot about who he really is since then. With his political pandering and posturing to endear himself to the intolerant wing of the GOP over the last few years, it doesn’t surprise me that this administration will go down as the most anti-LGBT in history.

Richard Socarides, who served as White House special assistant and senior adviser under President Clinton, says he doesn’t think things are going to get any better either.

“As the Russia investigation heats up and as his failures at basic governing pile up, I think gays will more and more become scapegoats. It’s a pretty old, standard playbook for political bullies,” he says.

“Anyone who thought Trump would go easy on the gays was clearly wrong. The question now is not whether he will set us back, but how far.”

Related: Even Trump Supporters Should Be Able To Follow This Flow Chart Of Donald’s Stance On “The Gays”

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66 Comments

  • Taiyoken

    Gee, I wonder if this right-wing, christian-pandering, conservative buffoon has the interests of gays in mind. What do you think?

  • DCguy

    Oh Please, the guy STATED while he was running that he would appoint judges to overturn lgbt rights.

    Isn’t it funny that the only two tactics GOP trolls have to try to defend voting for Republicans is

    1. Oh don’t worry, they’re lying, they don’t REALLY hate lgbts, they just say that to get elected.

    and

    2. Screaming Muslims! Boogeyman, Muslims!!!!

    • James

      gay trump supporters are sick sick sick and need to be institutionalized in a mental hospital.

    • AzLights

      These homocons fall for the con every time. The only time they ever say anything is when they feel that *their* rights are being violated. They don’t “get” it because they don’t *want* to get it. These idiots will vote their wallet every time. They suffer from the delusion that their wealth and political affiliation will save them and to hell with everyone. Hate to be the one to burst their bubble (not really), but they can and will be marched off to camps just like the rest of us if things really go south.

  • Xzamilloh

    Trump will definitely go down as one of the worst presidents in modern history, if not the worst. Even though I loathe Hillary Clinton and see her as neoliberal hack, I still voted for her because she is leaps and bounds better than Trump, who is determined to destroy everything Obama did while energizing a dying fundamentalist Christian movement

    • Kangol

      Totally agree with you. Trump proves on a daily basis that he has a tenuous grasp of reality, h and his minions are gutting the US government, he’s as much a tool of Wall Street as Hillary ever could have been, and he has us on the brink, not just figuratively but literally, of nuclear war. And he’s violating federal laws on a daily basis. All of it is beyond unconscionable. Invocation of the 25th Amendment or impeachment based on the FBI investigation need to happen ASAP.

  • 1898

    if you support a known pathological liar, dont act shocked when he lies to you

    • Frankly Wild

      Exactly.

  • Alexis

    Most LGBTQ folks that voted for him were delusional to think that their rights wouldn’t be attacked. I guess let them live and learn…let them be fired for being gay or a transgender or discriminated. Maybe then they’ll learn what humiliation is and of their mistakes…(though history says that otherwise). It’s clear that under Trump, nothing matters anymore…The bottom line is: it’s good to be a rich, white man. Had it been a black man behaving the same way…well…we all know the USA is racist, so I don’t have state the outcome. Eminem says it best.

    • James

      They are not going to learn anything. They are a sick bunch of selfish self centered losers.

    • AzLights

      I think that James has hit the nail squarely on the head. Homocons are incredibly selfish, self-centered individuals who care only that their wealth is not diminished.

  • CMarks

    To my gay Republican friends (both of you) I will say this loud and as clearly as possible – I TOLD YOU SO.

    • AzLights

      I wonder if the homocons idiot I knew years ago has ever awakened and seen the light. I wonder how he feels now that LGBT rights are in peril. He was pretty oblivious back then and, to judge by other homocons, he is probably still just as oblivious. If, so, I don’t feel sorry for him at all. They were warned, but chose to vote for the Orang-utan anyhow.

  • James

    You cannot fix stupid people. Log cabin republicans are idiots with ABSOLUTELY NO SOULD WHATSOEVER. MAY THEY ROT.

    • James

      ABSOLUTELY NO SOUL WHATSOEVER.

  • GayEGO

    Uh duh, it is about time! I felt this way about Trump before he started his TV show, The Apprentice! He is just a spoiled brat bully.

  • KaiserVonScheiss

    Ridiculous and a non-problem.

    I think some of your facts are wrong. LaSalvia endorsed Hillary Clinton. So unless he changed his mind and then switched to Trump, that statement is just wrong.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jimmy-lasalvia-/hillary-clinton-president-_b_8698000.html

    Secondly, the “hate group” designation is from the SPLC. They are a terrible organisation who trick celebs into donating millions of dollars while sending that money to off-shore tax havens.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/1/splc-transferred-millions-offshore-tax-havens/

    All Trump is doing is playing politics. It’s expected that he go to these things. It doesn’t mean he’s going to start abrogating gay rights…which is something he hasn’t done. Despite the fact that people have been saying he’ll do it “any day now” for the past six months or so.

    • Kieran

      Sometimes I think these bitter queens would be happier if a real homophobe like Ted Cruz or Mike Pence were President.

    • Brody

      The people who’re crying because Trump hasn’t been more “pro gay” are the same ones who tried telling us the only reason he wanted to get into the White House was to a) enrich his own coffers, or b) start World War III.
      Just more sky-is-falling hyperbole from the same haters of All Things Trump.

    • Juanjo

      Kaiser Von Dipshit and his sock puppets are out in force I see. I love the reference to the Washington Times which is a broadsheet operated by the Unification Church and their Jesus on earth. Nothing in the article is verified at all.

    • ChrisK

      Thank you Juanjo for clearing that up. Yeah, it makes Fox News look liberal in comparison. I wouldn’t trust that site any more either.

    • BigWill

      Jesus, you’re an idiot.

    • Xzamilloh

      How is it expected that he go to these things? And how you defend him “playing politics” when the rallying cry for most of you on here was that Trump was gonna drain the swamp, and usher in a No-BS kind of presidency? It’s funny how Trump going to speak at an anti-gay even is a non-problem but let some purple haired lesbian talk about forcing made up pronouns on you and it’s a liberal war on gender!! Congratulations on defending a man who is “playing politics”, the glorious admission that this is someone who has no mind of his own and just goes whichever way the wind is blowing.

      That said….. yeah, I don’t want him impeached. Not with what we have as the runner up for Miss Agent Orange in Chief

    • StupidBoy

      I know it’s pointless to reply to a Russian chatbot (kiss the Shirless One’s nipples for me), but maybe other fence sitters are reading comments, too.

      “It doesn’t mean he’s going to start abrogating gay rights…which is something he hasn’t done.” -KaiserVonScheiss

      A quick search of Queerty’s articles shows that to be the opposite of the truth (there really should be a word for that).

      “Trump’s ban on transgender troops is now official policy”

      “Trump praises pastor who called LGBTQ people ‘filthy’ to other pastor who blamed 9/11 on queers.”

      “As a major proponent of religious liberty, (Trump appointee) Gorsuch is perfectly poised to make the right-wing dream of making discrimination legal come true.”

      “Eric S. Dreiband is Donald Trump’s pick to head the U.S. Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division. During his senate confirmation hearing this week, Dreiband said he’d be ‘zealous’ in protecting civil rights of all people… unless they’re LGBTQ, then he’s not sure.”

      “Sam Clovis is currently awaiting confirmation for the position of chief scientist at the Department of Agriculture. ‘If we protect LGBT behavior, what other behaviors are we going to protect? Are we going to protect pedophilia? Are we going to protect polyamorous marriage relationships? Are we going to protect people who have fetishes? What’s the logical extension of this? It can’t be that we’re going to protect LGBT and then we’ll pull up the ladder.'”

      “Trump to honor Pride month by giving a speech at an antigay conference”

      “Donald Trump gave a speech at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C today, making him the first president ever to address the gathering of white supremacists, far right activists, and religious zealots.”

      And the worst part–the part EVERYONE should be absolutely SCREAMING about:

      “Trump is proposing:

      A 16.6% cut in funding to the CDC for HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, and STD prevention programs. Of the approximately 40,000 Americans diagnosed with HIV every year, nearly half of them are people of color, and around two-thirds are LGBTQ.
      An $838 million cut to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, where most HIV/AIDS research is conducted.
      A 36.75% cut to the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, which has spent the past several years collecting data on sexual orientation and gender identity to better address LGBTQ health disparities.
      A $59 million cut to the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program, which provides primary medical care and essential support services for people living with HIV who are uninsured or underinsured.
      Total elimination of AIDS Education and Training Centers and Special Projects of National Significance, which are run under the auspices of the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program.
      A $1.1 billion cut (20% of global HIV funding) for treatment of people living with HIV in Africa and other parts of the globe. The group amfAR estimates this would result in the loss of more than 1 million lives and cause as many as 300,000 children to become orphans.
      A 37.3% cut to the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which was created by the Affordable Care Act and currently funds a number of important public health projects and initiatives.”

    • KaiserVonScheiss

      @StupidBoy

      None of those things are attacks on gay rights.

    • Heywood Jablowme

      @Kaiser: “All Trump is doing is playing politics.”

      You’ve got it backwards. He WAS playing politics, during the campaign, when he was fooling 14% of gays to vote for him.

      He’s not playing politics now. He’s playing to his homophobic “base.” These are his actual policies.

      And this may come as a shock to you, but you’re not really part of his base. No matter how much you suck up to them they will always believe you’re a f***** who’s going to hell.

      Don the Con, no, he doesn’t believe that — he just considers you a sucker who fell for his sales pitch.

    • Knight

      *sits over in this corner*. The article is now over a month old, and NO LGBT rights have been diminished, let alone removed. None. So, all these “I told you so!” and “He’s HITLER!” comments just seem like…well…histrionics from easily-excitable little bitches. Don’t they?

      Kieran – you are correct. I used to watch Bill Maher and face-palmed every time he would make hyperbolic statements like “Bush is the worst president in human history! He’s dangerous and will lead this country to ruin!” Then during the Trump campaign, back-peddled and said, “no…I really MEAN it this time with THIS guy! He’ll start World War III!!!” The only people who buy into these exaggerations and hysteria are people who have never actually lived under fear from their politicians. I have…and just find all of this stupid.

  • Brian

    Still better than Hillary.

    • Brody

      Amen to that, brother.

    • Alexis

      says the delusional Brian….I bet your friend in the pic agrees too

    • ChrisK

      They’re are better ways to just say you’re an idiot..

    • Palto

      You really are as dumb as you look.

    • BigWill

      Brain Trust Mo…Brody…whatever has chimed in. Yay.

    • Brody

      ChrisK-
      There, their, and they’re.
      Learn their meaning and spelling, or stop commenting publicly to such embarrassing results. Also, only one (1) period is required at the end of a sentence.
      You’re welcome.

    • ChrisK

      Yeah, it’s called not being able to edit anything on the site. I know the difference but thanks Grammar Nazi.

    • Kangol

      Multiple sockpuppets on here tonight, I guess. Jaxton, Brian/JasonSmeds/Sybil, your other alter ego is calling.

    • Brian

      I love that almost a year after the election, so many of you are still so ensconced in your ultra left wing bubble that the mere thought that some of us have different political opinions than you is so unfathomable that you have to blame it on trolling, sockpuppets, or Russians. It’s that carelessness and arrogance that got Trump elected in the first place. People got tired of your crap and decided to change the status quo.

      If you want a second term of Trump, keep it up. The pendulum is swinging in the other direction and your POV is getting more outdated with each passing day.

    • Knight

      ChrisK “THERE” are better ways to show the world you are an under-educated dolt who can’t grasp the very basics of grammar…but you did quite well just the same.

  • David Pumo

    I wonder if the Jewish Nazis felt the same way. Gay Republicans are such pathetic, self-hating idiots.

    • Kieran

      You forgot pooh-pooh heads. *Sticks pacifier back in your mouth that you threw on the floor*

    • ChrisK

      They’d be the Capos. Anything at all to save their own necks.

  • Kieran

    You really believe that 86% of gays voted for Hillary? You people really do live in a bubble.

    • Brody

      86%? I believe it.
      These days, being gay is automatically equated with being liberal, as I’m sure you’ve discovered as well. I have family who is so stunned that I could have voted for Trump while also being attracted to the same gender that they’re beginning to seriously question my homosexuality.

    • ChrisK

      Don’t worry. I’m sure if we looked at you and your life your voting habits would make perfect sense.

    • Palto

      100% of idiots voted for trump.

    • captainburrito

      14% voted for Trump. That does not mean 86% voted for Hillary as 8-10% voted for a 3rd party candidate. Her share was closer to 76% or so.

      What is telling is that Trump got notably less gay votes than recent republican candidates. The others tended to get low to mid 20s. Even GWB who campaigned on the back of a constitutional gay marriage ban got above 20% support.

    • Heywood Jablowme

      Yes – GWB got to the very high twenties, almost 30% of the gay vote in 2004.

      So Trump has cut that in HALF, at least.

  • Brody

    Are you really going to tell me that Donald Trump speaking before a religious summit is worse than Barack Obama fraternizing with members of the Weather Underground, which actually killed people?

    Apparently, the left has become so open-minded that their brains have fallen out.

    • Gaytaffuk

      Where’s your evidence that the Weather Underground killed people?

      None that I can find!

      If your going to use the ‘ well Obama did this which was much worse’ argument at least get your facts straight!

    • Brody

      Gaytaffuk-
      If you couldn’t find it, it’s for the simple reason that you didn’t look for it.
      Brinks robbery, 1981. Three dead. Look it up.
      WU committed multiple bombings, making them verifiable terrorists. Dem’s da fax.
      Now, I understand you feel that anyone who doesn’t embrace you is a “hater” or “terrorist,” but I assure you that the Value Voters Summit people aren’t going around bombing establishments as the Weather Underground did, so I’d still choose the company kept by Trump over that of Obama.

    • Gaytaffuk

      Brody – wrong, on two counts, count 1: I did look it up and couldn’t find anything that’s because, count 2:

      The Brink’s robbery of 1981 was an armed robbery and three related murders committed on October 20, 1981, which were carried out by six Black Liberation Army members: Jeral Wayne Williams (Mutulu Shakur), Donald Weems (Kuwasi Balagoon), Samuel Brown (Solomon Bouines), Samuel Smith, Edward Joseph, and Cecilio “Chui” Ferguson;[1] and four former members of the Weather Underground, now belonging to the May 19th Communist Organization, consisting of David Gilbert, Judith Alice Clark, Kathy Boudin, and Marilyn Buck.

      Information from Wikipedia. The Weather Underground disbanded in 1977 so it would have been impossible for them to take part in a robbery in 1981!

      I don’t believe that – ‘anyone who doesn’t embrace you is a “hater” or “terrorist,”’ I just think anyone who doesn’t research their information properly is a dickhead.

      Before you start throwing around accusations get your facts straight!

      If, as your presence here would indicate, you are gay, I’d be VERY careful about spending time with the ‘people’ at the Value Voters Summit, you could very easily be lynched! They may not be throwing bombs but they are very happy to see LGBT people dead and aren’t ashamed to say so.

      Sadly Trumplestiltskyn is quite happy to clasp these bigots to his breast, irrespective of the consequences for minorities. Be very careful who you align yourself with, you may find yourself in their gun sights!

    • captainburrito

      Some of those anti-gay groups that are part of the summit supported the Uganda “kill the gays” bill and then denied it as they realized how fcking terrible it looked even for them. Blood on their hands too.

    • Brody

      Gayattafukk –
      I know a lot of religious people who happily accept me as I am . . . the other side of the coin is you gay liberals, who have nothing but disdain for me or others like me who don’t think and behave as you insist proper gay men should. So tell me again: Who, exactly, are the intolerant haters?

      ps – The Brinks job was a political crime perpetrated by former members of the WU to further the political terrorism begun by the WU. Whitewash it all you like, but Barack Hussein Obama was still willfully fraternizing with known domestic terrorists.

    • Gaytaffuk

      ‘I know a lot of religious people who happily accept me as I am’ – so do I, I also know a lot who ‘kindly’ tried to ‘convert’ me (for my own good you understand!), who stop associating with me when they find out I’m gay, who think it’s acceptable to tell me I’m ‘filth’, that tell my mother she should have aborted me (even though they are supposedly against abortion), who tried to have me sacked for nothing other than who I sleep with, those are the type of ‘religious people’ that attend Value Voters Summit, kind, caring and considerate, I think not.

      ‘the other side of the coin is you gay liberals, who have nothing but disdain for me or others like me who don’t think and behave as you insist proper gay men should’ – I don’t disdain you, I simply believe that if you want to present an argument against Obama you need to get your facts right. Also the fact that Obama did it does NOT make it right that Trump!stiltskyn allies himself with the extreme right and religious nuts. He’s the president of America – he needs to set a good example, not roll in the shit! I also don’t care how you act as long as you do no harm, spreading shit about a great president (Obama) is harmful.

      ‘Who, exactly, are the intolerant haters?’ – those who spread malicious lies, like you!

      ‘ps – The Brinks job was a political crime perpetrated by former members of the WU to further the political terrorism begun by the WU. Whitewash it all you like, but Barack Hussein Obama was still willfully fraternizing with known domestic terrorists.’ – you’ve undermined your own argument. A crime perpetuated by FORMER members of the Weather Underground, NOT members of the Weather Underground known to have associated with Barack Obama. Your original post stated that Obama had been ‘fraternizing with members of the Weather Underground, which actually killed people?’ – you know for a fact that he had spent time with David Gilbert, Judith Alice Clark, Kathy Boudin, and Marilyn Buck? If not you’ve massively overreached here! Please be acurate when you try to undermine someone else’s credibility, it makes you look like a knob when you don’t.

      Perpetuating badly researched rubbish is dangerous, it can distort the thinking of those with weak minds and end up with them voting for fascists like Trump and with the US ending up in the mess it is currently in!

      It can also get you a reputation of being a troll!

  • Juanjo

    Man the sock puppets are out in force today. Same trumpanzee nonsense

    • ChrisK

      Wax on wax off. Sign in sign out. It’s easy to do on Queerty btw. You change your name over and over without even signing out. It’s a troll heaven.

  • Alexis

    The fact that some members of the LGBTQ actually favor this type of leadership and insidious discrimination against themselves probably suggests that maybe some members of the community deserves to be discriminated or hated. Being belittled and discriminated hasn’t taught anything them, or about caring about marginalized groups…I feel very sorry for them, and despise their complicit beliefs for this ‘fake’ leader.

    • ChrisK

      Community means caring about your community. Since they don’t in any way I don’t consider them part of the community. Most of them are outcasts anyways.

  • Jaxton

    Most GLBT’s have treated Trump very poorly. He’s appointed openly homosexual staff but received no gratitude. I can understand why he’s turning to traditional religious groups.

    The GLBT’s are partly to blame.

    • Palto

      You speak Russian trumpbot?

    • Gaytaffuk

      Of course LGBT people have treated Trump very poorly, he’s an arsehole!

      The LGBT people who are treating him poorly are only reacting to the lack of intelligence, compassion and awareness this administration and especially Trump have shown so far. There is also a serious lack of achievement!

      Why should anyone be grateful they Trump has hired homosexual staff? Surely these people will have been hired on their ability to do the job and for that reason only? If they were hired for any other reason that would be discriminatory and his administration should be sued!

      He’s turning to religious groups for the same reason he’s turning to white supremacists, racists and neo-fascists – because they reflect his core beliefs! He’s a racist, sexist fascist who wants to take the US back to the 1950’s.

      The LGBT are in no way to blame for this ignorant bigot! This is totally on his head and anyone who does not understand that is either willfully ignorant or mentally deranged.

      Sadly I think you are both!

    • Alexis

      Haha…Russian Trumpbot.
      homosexual staff? I would love to know of whom you speak of. Plus just because he has appointed some in his staff doesn’t excuse his actions against transgenders or other marginalized groups. Your type (e.g. Trump LGBT devotees or Trumpbots) is what’s ruining the US.

    • ChrisK

      Yeah, speaking of that he’s speaking at the Values Voter Summit today which is sponsored by the Family Research Council. A designated hate group. The first sitting President to do that.

  • afcarl

    It`s Time To “Remove” This SS Zionist & His Co !!!

  • Knight

    As I mentioned previously, I didn’t vote for Trump as I’m not a US citizen (but I still wouldn’t have…nor would I have voted for Hillary). But a) the photoshopping of burning an LGBT rainbow flag is tasteless (not to Trump, but to LGBT). b) to any reasonable person who is not a rabid democrat and has sworn to hate anything Trump does, the truth is he hasn’t done anything to harm any of the gained civil rights of the last few years. Nothing. The ban on trans people in the military is pretty much a no-brainer, since nearly ANYONE with an existing medical condition cannot serve in the military (this includes bad teeth). And the White House lawyer’s ruling on the Civil right’s act of 1965 that the mentioned “sex” does not equate to “sexual preference” is a no-brainer: it’s ALWAYS been written that way, and simply overlooked. The challenge is to ADD it to the ruling, not PRETEND it was there all along, which is what the White House lawyer was saying.

    I get now that Queerty is just the gay propaganda wing of the democratic party, and simply tries to push their agenda through the “shiny objects” that are articles about naked internet models in between. But as long as the misinformation is out there, I’ll be the first one to call BS (on EITHER side).

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