It’d be a stretch to say Maryland’s Democratic State Rep Emmett Burns, of Baltimore, is the next coming of Sally Kern, but his bill to prevent Maryland from recognizing gay marriages from other jurisdictions is certainly giving him some mileage.
Especially now that he’s insisting his bill isn’t, like, discriminatory or anything.
Delegate Emmett Burns, D-Baltimore County, said Thursday that his bill barring recognition of out-of-state same-sex marriages was “not discriminatory.”
Burns dismissed criticism by gay-rights advocates at a packed House Judiciary hearing on his bill, citing his longtime commitment to civil rights for African-Americans.
“I would not have been able to sit here as a member of the General Assembly during segregation, based on the color of my skin,” he said during testimony. “But gays and lesbians could. No one asked their sexual orientation when they ran for office. I cannot hide my color. … To say the two are on equal par is anathema to me.”
That’s right, gays. If you want to be treated equally under the law, stay in the closet to avoid the type of discrimination this nation says it won’t tolerate. Otherwise, it’s yo’ fault.
Cam
He hasn’t fought for civil rights…he fought for HIS civil rights. That is the difference between selfish advocacy and being a true civil rights leader.
terrwill
What a pathetic hateful old foolish scumbag…….Gays have no more choice in being Gay than you did in being born Black…..However old fool You do have a choice in living life as a hateful disgusting vile bigot!!
Chitown Kev
This old black fool played the race card. My hands are off of this.
You know what…(Tosses up hands)…never mind….I’d better stop typing.
Dirty Ole Man
@Chitown Kev:
It’s not the misguided state rep who’s playing
the “Race Card”, it’s Queerty. But since people
like you buy into the race frenzy, I guess it’s all
good eh?
Chitown Kev
@Dirty Ole Man:
First of all, I would kindly suggest that you not lecture to me.
Second of all, I was about to type that here’s queerty’s obligatory race baiting post for the day but thirdly…
Third of all, I’m black and gay….
Fourth, employees that were known to be gay during the period that he’s talking about could be jailed under sodomy laws. It is the misguided rep in this quote that is making the comparison (not saying that gays haven’t)
I’m not giving this man any cover simply because of the color of his skin. He threw race out there, I will throw it back.
And what the fuck do you really know about “people like me?”
Chitown Kev
And fifth let’s not get into a who started what comparison type of shit.
Maybe it was sociologist Erving Goffman in his book “Stigma” where he examined the stigmas against entire groups of people including the disabled, blacks, and gays.
terrwill
It is getting pathetic in these threads lately. There are millions o’ folks whos favorite sport playin’ pin the hate on the fags. Yet we eat our own (not in the good way) amongst these threads. I had bunch of Black people cast false poo at me on another currently running thread here on Queerts. I don’t care what race, color, ethnicity, creed, religion, belief, gender, or age you are. You spew poo on the Gays and I am gonna sharpen my claws and rip you to shreds…………….
Lets end the circular firing squads……..
Dirty Ole Man
@Chitown Kev:
Obviously, you take yourself too damn seriously.
Who gives a fat fuck about you or the life you live?
On this Blog, all of us are equals! Your comments are
just letters on my screen. And for the record, I don’t give a damn about your race! YOU introduced race by commenting
about the “Race Card”.
Fall back and drink some Tea!
Dirty Ole Man
No. 3 · Chitown Kev said:
“This old black fool played the race card.”
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Those are your words! You introduced race by
calling him a “BLACK Fool” and you used the
“Race Card” reference – which annoys the fuck outta me.
Follow your own advice hunny!
terrwill
Maybe not……………. :-{
Chitown Kev
@Dirty Ole Man:
Honey, I’ll say any damn thing that I want to about black folks wherever I damn well please.
See, I’m like this…I don’t mind the Tim Hardaway (“I hate gay people”) types at all!
A comment like State Senator Burns is soooooooo typical of those who believe that 1) black folks aren’t really gay ot they have the “white man’s disease.” 2) He probably goes to a church full of choir queens. 3) On the record he will say “I don’t know any gay people or people of that lifestyle” but I don’t discriminate.
I know the typees that would say ignorant shit like this real well (including family members) and their no better than some of the racist queens that you find here at queerty.
So, since Sen. Burns NOW wants to make it a race issue (as opposed to a public policy issue, which is what he had done before) then hey, he brought the issue by saying ignorant shit.
Dirty Ole Man
@terrwill:
Sorry baby, that’s how will roll around here…lol
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@ No. 11 · Chitown Kev – well do as you please,
but I will call you out when you generalize Black People
as you just did on this thread. I don’t care how many
people of color are in your close proximity, that DOES NOT
give you the right to perpetuate negative anti-gay stereotypes
about Black People. That state rep does not represent any Black Person I know! So I’ll be damned if I allow you to make his views representative of all Black People. He is ONE singular Idiot whose positions on Homosexuality should NOT be viewed collectively.
You should know better!
Chitown Kev
@terrwill:
What made me go all east side of Detroit (somewhat) was this:
“To say the two are on equal par is anathema to me.”
Gay and black ARE on equal par for me. “Misguided” my black ass.
terrwill
@Chitown Kev:
Kinda like you are Black and Gay, you had no choice in either……Emmett is Black and a damm old vile fool…his choice!
Chitown Kev
@Dirty Ole Man:
I called HIM a black fool.
And I did NOT stereotype all black people AT ALL but I do know the profile of those black folks that WOULD say something like this. I didn’t even say ALL my family members were like that (some of them, including a few of the churched) aren’t like that at all. I said only that some were.
Now. I could run off a list of black politicians who don’t think this way, even some of the relatively obscure ones (like Nia Gill in New Jersey)…But I’ve posted a lot about that on queerty, too.
Chitown Kev
@terrwill:
well, to be the damn vile ignorant fool that he is is a choice.
Lukas P.
So if Burns bans “outside marriages, are indoor weddings still gonna be okay?
andy
where’s the guy with mixed race ancestry..? What’s his name? You guys at queerty were talking about him earlier in the week? WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A FRIEND FOR HIM!
Cam
No. 4 · Dirty Ole Man
@Chitown Kev:
It’s not the misguided state rep who’s playing
the “Race Card”, it’s Queerty. But since people
like you buy into the race frenzy, I guess it’s all
good eh?
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Sorry douche, but you’ve been on here calling everybody a racist and tossing race around for the past several days. It’s ovious that you are just somebody coming on here to try to fuck around with the posters on a gay blog.
Dirty Ole Man
No. 19 · Cam said:
Sorry douche, but you’ve been on here calling everybody a racist and tossing race around for the past several days. It’s ovious that you are just somebody coming on here to try to fuck around with the posters on a gay blog.
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ANGRY Much? lol
Trust me, I can get into a piss fight with you
and YOU will LOSE! But I’m not going there with you.
I come to this site because I enjoy coming here, and
I will continue to come here as long as the site admin allows me to. Just as you are allowed to call me a “DOUCHE”, I’m allowed to call you out on your Fuckery! So you can just keep your name calling to your self cuz Frankly my Dear, I just Don’t Give Damn!
** Rolls Eyes and Sips some Tea **
edgyguy1426
Obviously ole ‘letters on my screen ‘ is all riled up from something! Anyway, agree with you Cam, he fought for HIS civil rights, so now he can take it easy and rest on those laurels. Kev, you know these pests come and they get tired and then they leave, they leave even faster if they can’t get any responses..and Queerty, what’s with that “yo’ fault” at the end of the post…it’s icky.
John Thomas
Okay, so this Representative hates gays. Get over it. How can he violate the civil rights of gays and it be a problem, yet you racist homos violate the civil rights of black gays every day? You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Once you recognize this fact, perhaps legislation will work out in your favor. As it stands, you are too racist and evil (read INSECURE) to change. May your lives continue to be miserable and barely existant. Oh yeah, that happens pretty quickly…say around the age of 32 (because most of you look a complete and total hot mess before you hit 35). Evil genes do that to you. And then, depression really hits you and you end up being bitter old queens (because younger white guys act just like you did and the payback is a female dog).
0.02
The only problem I have is when non black people try to use this “man” as an excuse to blame all blacks. All blacks do not think like him. Most blacks do not think like him. I would think when it comes to homophobia with blacks it is roughly the same as the white community, only the most vocal homophobic blacks like to verbally take it above and beyond. There is homophobia in communities of color, there is much racism in the LGBT community, I’ve notice that to be a fact both ways.
Anyway is gay the new black? No, that’s two very different things. I am both gay and black. I can hide my sexuality in theory but for my sanity I cannot hide it. I also cannot hide my color. In my humble opinion, gay does not need to be the new black or the new anything because gay is not new. It is old, has always been around will always be around and will never change. Trying to equate the two is really not going to get anywhere. So he has a problem with the gay. Who cares, this guy is outdated and on his way out whether he realizes it or not. One can try to show him that even though the discrimination is shown a different way discrimination is still discrimination, but this guy will only see his discrimination. Don’t vote him into any office that will put him in the position to have power over the lives of others, don’t support anything he does and work to keep him and others of any race like him out of any position of power, it’s that simple folks.
Tackle
#22. John Thomas, BRILLIANT!
I too have often thought that the racism within the gay community,( practiced by some) is based on insecurity. Some gays are so miserable and have so low selfesteem, ( often masked in attitude),that theres a need to be better than somebody.
#23. You are so on!
I want to add that it’s a shame that many young non-white gay youth come into the gay community thinking that gays will open minded,progressive,free of racism and then experience the bitter pill of truth.
schlukitz
No. 20 · Dirty Ole Man
** Rolls Eyes and Sips some Tea **
And you do this at the Adult bookstore you spoke of in another thread and where you suck cock in the cover of darkness and anonymity?
Inquiring minds need to know.
Chitowm Kev
@Tackle:
“Some gays are so miserable and have so low selfesteem, ( often masked in attitude),that theres a need to be better than somebody.”
Maybe, but then again I could just as easily say that the specifically cultural forms in which homophobia manifests itself in the black community is very similar. Indeed, that Rep.. Burns would use such strong language as “anathema” indicates that he is someone that feels that way.
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I just had to look this up. But Maryland’s sodomy statute was not declared unconstitutional until 1999. Therefore, in the scnario that Rep. Burns lays out for us here, Maryland law allowed for criminals to be legislators. I would sure like to know which pre-1999 Maryland legislators were criminals in the eyes of Maryland law.
Rep. Burns also forgets that black gays and lesbians, too, would have been exempted from running from office…
Also, his quote strongly implies that part and parcel of the state of Maryland upholding white supremacy during the times of segregation would be the fact the state of Maryland actually advanced the rights and the abilities of white gays and lesbians at the expense of black people. And that’s not true.
@John Thomas:
“yet you racist homos violate the civil rights of black gays every day?”
Really? Back that up with facts…(I’m not saying that it hasn’t been proven to happen AT TIMES, as it happened in Badlands in san Francisco).
terrwill
@schlukitz: Schultzy, did our friend just change colors???? (#22)
terrwill
@Tackle: I hang out at some local Gay bars and a Gay community center. I don’t know where you are from but I observe the exact opposite. The center has a youth group of whom a good percentage is Black. They come to the center seeking shelter from their own community. They are assimilated into the group with welcome arms and become contributing members. I hang out at one bar in particular which has Black bartenders and a good percentage of Black customers. The people there are simply Gay not Black Gays nor White Gays. I think that many Blacks are sensitive about the shit that you faced for a long time in this country. It isn’t too long ago that the Blacks were riding the back of the bus and sippin separate water fountains. For that reason asshats like Burns burn me up. I don’t toss shit towards Blacks, however someone like him, I will come at with both barrels…..They are way too willing to put the Gays right into the seats on the bus that not too long ago they were forced to sit in…………
mojojojo
Just another example of the rampant homophobia in the black community
schlukitz
Terwill, John Thomas, 0.02 and Tackle (nos. 22, 23 & 24) just took a dump on us.
I, for one, am tired of Queerty’s constant race baiting. It serves no purpose other than to divide our already fragmented community and I decided awhile back that I will no longer comment or respond to inflammatory posts designed to stir the shit.
Doing so, only gives fuel to those certain who feel the need to paint everyone they don’t like or approve of as a racist.
John Thomas
@Chitown Kev:
“Really? Back that up with facts…(I’m not saying that it hasn’t been proven to happen AT TIMES, as it happened in Badlands in san Francisco).”
Wow, that is a classic statement. Racism really doesn’t exist unless you can prove it, huh? I am really disappointed in you. I could crush you with a reply. But, I won’t. It would be too easy. As a gay man, I would think you wouldn’t even take that approach. It’s similar to asking gays to always prove cases of homophobia. No matter what you say, the homophobic bigot rarely sees the situation from your point of view.
Chitown Kev
@John Thomas:
Your statement was very, very strong.
You did not say that white gays were racist toward black gays. You said that white gays were denying black gays civil rights.
Are white gays denying black gays the right to marry? Are white gays discriminating against black gays in the employment process (hiring, firing, promotions, etc.)…and so on…
Are white gays denying or discriminating against black gays in terms of equal access to public accomodations such as bars, bathhouses, hotels, and resturants?
Are white gays (with the implied “all” that you have in front of that) doing this on a massive and systemic scale to “all” black gays?
Racism is one thing. There’s no law on the books that says that you can’t be racist.
Denial of civil rights on a mass and daily basis is an entirely DIFFERENT ball game. And THAT you really do need to back up with a number of incidents (as opposed to isolated incidents) to back up your broad sweeping statement.
Chitown Kev
@Chitown Kev:
“It’s similar to asking gays to always prove cases of homophobia.”
Not at all. there’s no law on the books that says that you can’t be homophobic. Just as there’s no law on the books that say that you can’t be racist.
In many states, it’s not even against the law to act on that homophobia through employment discrimination, access to public accomodations, etc…
Your comparison is like comparing apples to macaroni and cheese.