Bradford and Angela have been together for almost a decade. They’re a happily married and still regularly have sexual intercourse with one another… and with other people.
“When I see my husband being tender with another man, I see another side to him,” Angela tells Northern Star.”Bradford is great in bed and I can really appreciate what the other guy is feeling on a physical level.”
Bradford is bisexual. And he’s lucky because Angela is totally OK with it. Not just totally OK, she’s totally into it.
“It’s also incredibly hot to watch,” Angela says. “It’s like my very own porn show, sometimes I even get to sit in the director’s chair and dictate what I want to see.”
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The couple, who live in Australia, are the hosts of BytheBi, a podcast and support group for other couples like them. They also host special events, sex ed-classes, and promote the idea of “promiscuity with permission.”
Angela says she and Bradford have received hundreds of messages from people all around the world asking them about sexual fluidity in a relationship.
“Most people who contact are us are confused and just want someone to talk to who isn’t going to judge, someone who has been there and can share their experience with dating a bisexual person,” she explains.
“We tell them there is no right or wrong, if their husband wants to have sex with another man, why not watch? It may just add another dimension to their relationship.”
Angela concludes, “If I’m watching Bradford with another man or he comes home and tells me what he got up to while on a date with guy, I still find it incredibly hot and horny and it usually leads to us having really great sex.”
Sounds like a win-win-win.
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Donston
These type of hetero couples aren’t that unusual. Just like same-sex couples indulging hetero sex isn’t that unusual. This stuff has been going on for 100’s of years. It’s just sex. If we’re supposed to be about embracing things like the spectrum and fluidity then we need to stop looking at this stuff as transgressive or “evolved”. If you’re looking to have a commitment with someone of a particular sex and you have greater romantic/relationship contentment with someone of a certain gender but you’re looking to persistently indulge sex with someone else then it’s best to find someone who is turned on by that. It’s the practical thing to do.
kris0010
You are coming off as a bit snarky. Do not assume that ALL people are fluid. I have never experienced any fluidity or a slight change in my orientation in my 50 year old life, DESPITE being open to it(trust me, i was open to it since i was like 8 years old). The notion that men who do not see your perspective are “current homos who wish to stick to his image” is f#cking stupid. Arguments like yours straightaway dismisses absolute heterosexuality or homosexuality. No, not everyone is “fluid” and no, there are gay men/couple who would never ever think about getting sexual with opposite gender. While I do acknowledge the lack of understanding/biphobia and dismissal of sexual fluidity in the world, please understand that while sexual fluidity is real and VERY common, non-fuild, non-changing sexual orientation is also real.
Donston
It’s all real. Heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, fluidity, never experiencing fluidity, the gender/romantic/sexual/affection/relationship spectrum. There is hardly anything out here driven by falsehoods and that almost no one can relate to. And it all needs to be respected. I come off snarky because I’m a bit tired of everything being fetishized or politicized. Though I realize that is an inevitable part of sociology, especially when it comes to online.
ShiningSex
won’t last. I know two couples similar and neither lasted. One lasted two years and the other lasted five.
Donston
It’s hard to say. He may lose a lot of sexual passions towards women or simply his wife over time. He may realize that he wants love/romantic bonds with a guy and a legit relationship with a guy. Hell, he may lose interests in dudes all together eventually. Or he may continue with this “situation” for many years to come. Ultimately, you can’t determine anyone’s journey or how their taste and priorities develop through their life. But I am over these “queer sites” that are obsessed with people in hetero relationships. Hetero relationships reign supreme. No matter how “queer” the relationship is it doesn’t need our validation.
inbama
Why is everyone referring to this as a heterosexual relationship when it’s clearly bi.
Donston
When two people of the opposite cis gender are in a committed relationship almost everyone sees it as a hetero/straight relationship. Just like many non homosexual people who are in same-sex relationships frequently refer to those relationships as “gay”, “homo” and/or “same-sex”. Almost no one refers to their relationship or the relationship of others as “bi relationships”. People typically only label their relationships “bi” when there’s a commitment between at least three parties and multiple genders are involved in that relationship and commitment. Some will refer to a relationship as “queer”. But “queer relationship” can mean practically anything, including a commitment between two homosexuals or heterosexuals or people who aren’t indulging bi behaviors.
Just because people are having sex with other folks, identify as this or that, have certain dimensions/fluidity doesn’t suddenly mean it’s not a straight/hetero relationship and commitment. While no one views a relationship between a cis woman and cis male, where the woman sometimes hooks up with chicks or they sometimes have mff threesomes as a “bi relationship” or even a “queer relationship”. People see it as a “straight relationship”. Let’s keep the same energy with everyone else. But this is partly why the label obsession and identity validation needs to wane down.
alistair16
Beg to differ I’ve been with my wife for 39 years.
Steve
It’s not for me at all and idea of a women in the room would ruin the vibe. I might be into it with two men and I do have an idea of who I might want throuple. Does this make me a hypocrite or just a gay man
wellinmysoul
please…. I smell sh*it…
Donston
I mean, they could hardly be in a legit, committed relationship. They could be more like friends who hook up sometimes but are giving off this facade for the sake of attention. The dude gets to appeal to all those guys who have “hooking up a guy who has a gf” fantasies. And no matter how romantically, sexually, emotionally, relationship wise into dudes they are some men are obsessed with staying as disconnected from “gay” as possible and wish to keep some ego boosting hetero appeal. And having a “girlfriend” is the easiest way to retain that. You just never know what folks are motivated by and how much of what people put on social media reflects reality. But if this is 100% real and their romantic/sexual connection, commitment and contentment is real it wouldn’t be the first or last of its kind.
jeff1370
I think you’re smelling yourself. Btw, use * in place of the letter, don’t spell the entire word.
Brian
I don’t think shit is one of the moderated words here.
Josh447
Care to back this up? “Just like same-sex couples indulging hetero sex isn’t that unusual.” gay men in relationship open up to other men, not women, but give it your best shot.
Care to back this up? “But I am over these “queer sites” that are obsessed with people in hetero relationships.” what web site’s and articles are you referring to? I see none that cozy up to str8 rel.
Care to back this up? “If we’re supposed to be about embracing things like the spectrum and fluidity then we need to stop looking at this stuff as transgressive or “evolved”.” We are not supposed to embrace anything. That’s you, not we. But again give it your at best try.
I could go on baking your hot word salad but best we start small.
Donston
The perspective of this article uses bi behaviors mainly for fetishistic purposes. The author is clearly into dudes who are in hetero relationships but indulges homo behaviors. He’s given so many examples of this obsession in the past. So, instead of being about education and understanding, this article just comes off as Graham taking something off the internet to validate his fantasies. Furthermore, you think all men in same sex relationships don’t still sexually engage with women? For a bi identifying guy you seem to have a very, very limited view of so many things. Honestly, I think you must be a current homo who perhaps once had some type of mild attractions to women and you wish to maintain that image. Because your lack of understanding on so many non homo “queer topics” just doesn’t make any sense otherwise. I don’t know any “proudly bi” guys who speak from such a homo/hetero perspective and is so ignorant about so much. Wanting to be with a dude or having overall same-sex preferences and ambitions doesn’t equate to losing all attractions or affections towards women, and it certainly doesn’t mean that you never sexually engaging with women. Once again, you come for me over something that probably makes you uncomfortable with yourself and how you portray yourself to everyone.
Josh447
Donston,
Let’s try this again bc your habit is to go off the rails with info that doesn’t apply and you therefore don’t answer the questions contextually with any credible evidence.
You said “Just like same-sex couples indulging hetero sex isn’t that unusual.” Please present examples where committed male couples have somewhat commonly opened their relationships up to a woman for a three way and or a three way relationship.
Re: “tired of articles about heteros” explain how one hetero woman and one bisexual man in a hetero/bi relationship is a “hetero” article you’re so “tired” of. This article seems quite far from an article about a hetero couple.
Re: “If we’re supposed to be about embracing things like the spectrum and fluidity then we need to stop looking at this stuff as transgressive or “evolved”.
Who says anyone is “supposed” to embrace anything? That sounds like negative control. Do demonstrate why we are “supposed” to embrace these things.
Now I know it’s really difficult for you to just answer questions head on, succinctly and with clarity but if you want to be observed as credible, it’s your job to clearly make your case. So here ya go, give it another shot.
Donston
I don’t know where you’ve been, but this site and social media media and a lot of “queer” public figures have been talking about bisexuality, fluidity, the spectrum, identity politics, “confusions”, preferences, etc. for years. I may word things in a way that upsets you, but you paint everything I say as extreme or off the grid, and none of it is. If you know a decent amount of “queers” like I do or you check out a decent amount of social media nothing is difficult to find. My point was if we’re going to talk about all this stuff then we need to stop fetishizing everyone’s orientation, sexual lives, identities, sexual ambitions, romantic/relationship ambitions, and we need to stop viewing basic sh*t as either crazy or “evolved”. Even if you don’t personally relate, most people (particularly “queers”) shouldn’t be surprised by anything any longer.
I am in a homo marriage and the couple of threesomes we’ve had has been with women. We’re friends with a lesbian couple who sometimes makes jokes about us all hooking up, though neither me nor my husband are interested. My male former roommate mainly dates men but would still bring chicks over to hook up with sometimes. My brother strictly dated dudes and trans women for a few years but still had online profiles looking to hook up with “regular” chicks. (He’s married to a cis woman now, so I don’t know what’s going with him and his sex life any longer, and I don’t care to ask). And it’s not difficult to find male same-sex couples on the internet that will admit to bi threesomes or where one party will claim to still hook up with women. It often seems more driven by bragging or internalized homophobia or wanting attention, but it’s not hard to find. While there are many dudes with overall male preferences that are not in serious relationships with men and still hook up with chicks for whatever reasons. Some homosexual or very sexually homo-leaning guys look to date men who still want to hook up with women because they are hetero worshipers or at least want to maintain some type of hetero connections. They view men who are fully homo or who want to live a fully homo life as either beneath them or as someone who’s not gonna boost their ego. While a lot of people don’t feel comfortable putting all their business on the internet and being judged. But none of this stuff is hard stuff to find. Hell, even if you get all your info from this site none of it is hard to find.
This is 2019. There’s no excuse for a “queer” to be so ignorant and dismissive when it comes to sexuality or general spectrum. So, a guy being with a female but having regular sex with dudes is okay. And it’s typical. It makes sense. But a guy having overall unabashed male preferences, wanting persistent love and affection from a man, wanting to build a life with a man and have a commitment with man yet still hook up with girls sometimes- that is somehow nonsensical? That’s the perspective of someone who doesn’t know that many “queers”, haven’t done their research, doesn’t truly understand the spectrum and sexuality, and someone who probably doesn’t truly get love and relationships. And it’s a perspective that only promotes hetero supremacy, hetero-normalcy and hetero relationships. Do better.
Josh447
Did I ask anything about single bi dudes? Why all the examples? No. I didn’t ask. There is no need. I am one. 9/10 of what you said was pure word salad having nothing to do with my questions. It’s your own internal brainstorm. Great you and hubby had 2 three ways with a woman. Normalize that by citing other examples.
This is how you go off the rails and read into things that aren’t there. Your comments don’t upset me, they make no sense or they go off topic with conjecture and heresay and take up air space. Look at all the time it takes just to try and get a straight answer out of you.
I asked you three questions twice, two of which you skipped and one you haven’t answered fully. Cite some online examples.
So if you can put all your brainstorming aside and read them again and just bring the goods maybe we’ll get somewhere. You make Trumpspeak seem like childs play. Are you republican? A politician? Your blind spots are clearly visible.
Donston
I gave you what you asked for and explained why your POV is problematic, basic and actually anti progress. Once again, you don’t argue against any of the points I make. It’s all about name-calling, accusations and aggression. That’s a troll-like approach. And then you pretend not to comprehend what I say or refuse to engage with what I say. Also, a troll-like approach. I see through the BS. I see why I upset you. Like I said, do better, grow up and get out of your feelings.
Josh447
It seems the only one here that’s problematic is you. You get attacked by people on almost every article you comment on. You got your nut busted when you slid off the rails on the gay lions zoo article and you still haven’t been back to respond to several commenters challenging questions about your upsetting remarks. You’re very high maintenance w serious blind spots. You bother a lot of people. That’s “problematic”.
Which brings up two questions. And trust me. I know you most likely won’t give a straight answer bc, well, it’s becoming quite apparent you just aren’t capable.
But here goes anyway.
1) have you ever considered you may have recognized or unrecognized mental health issues you need to work on? 2) why do you think you attract so much negativity?
djmcgamester
I had a friend whose wife really loved to see two guys together. He had no interest so she had to live with gay porn.
I happen to be into monogamy. With that in mind, even if I were bisexual I would still only be committed to that one person.
richard 14
It’s bad enough that men get horny watching lesbian action.