The self-described “gay, Jamaican, conservative Democrat” who penned a divisive takedown of gay culture is baaaaaaack, and he’s here to explain a bit more about his initial piece.
Honestly, we thought that with a title like Loveless, Narcissistic Sex Addicts: A Gay Man Critiques His Community, there wouldn’t be much more to say, but we guess we were wrong.
The Windy City Times caught up with DePaul University professor Jason Hill to discuss the backlash, his background, and, of course, those mean and nasty gays:
Hill told Windy City Times that the editors had changed his title and equally harsh subheads—one of which read, “We’re so lonely, we almost want AIDS”—but stood by what he wrote in the main text of his article. In an age of Grindr and Scruff, he said, gay men will be unable to find harmony in their relationships unless they can develop a stronger moral contract.
These are conclusions he came to because, of course, he’s an “ethicist by training”:
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I’m a moral philosopher, an ethicist by training. I tend to look at things from an ethical standpoint. I thought I needed to write a piece that would hold those members, some members of the community guilty of these sorts of behaviors, accountable.
But I [also] wanted to talk about the culture itself, and what constitutes gay culture itself—the ethos, pathos, mores, norms and protocols under which the people that suffuse that culture under which people are socialized. There seemed to be something pretty skewed in many respects.
He also has the groundbreaking theory that apps like Grindr and Scruff foster sex addiction:
One, I think, is the way I think the culture fosters sex addiction, I think, through the proliferation of certain apps that I think are incompatible with the desires and aspirations of gay men who I think want a monogamous or sustained relationship. I thought there was a huge disconnect in the aspirations of those individuals who want a certain life for themselves, and have certain behaviors or habits that cultivate and foster it.
The two are diametrically opposed. One can’t have one’s cake and eat it as well. …If you are faced with a multiplicity of options, the impetus to get to know one person, to hone in on one person and now them intimately, and to build up a bond, is completely lost.
There’s plenty more self-righteous psychobabble where that comes from.
Feel free to take it all in.
The ick factor of a piece like this being penned specifically for a conservative outlet like The Federalist is pretty high.
Either way, it starts a conversation that should be had, but perhaps next time a less “highly trained” ethicist can break it down for the regular folk and be a bit less offensive while doing so.
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Brian
He is so right about male-male promiscuity and the idea that some gay-isentifying men want to have AIDS.
justgeo
Such shit. If you are and addict you are the app does not cause the addiction it is just less effort to indulge the addiction. In the –OLD DAYS– one had to walk the streets-go to a bar- go to a porn movie house- book store- baths- work the toilets-
truck stops-piers-parks whatever.
Lotta time and work questionable results.
Now the apps are like a McDonalds read the list order by the number.
No room for something uncontrolled to happen —-SAD.
Well any ways I am not and addict yet I used all of the above mentioned venues to shop for a partner and they worked a fuck of a lot better than these apps I am trying to contend with——-JUST SAYING.
I am sure Jason Hill is just a boring got the creds asshole.
Kangol
Jason Hill is a sad lonely sex-negative queen, damaged by hom0phobia.
Some good D!CK and loving from the right man would set her straight.
Any bets on her type? Blond skinny twink from the upper Midwest?
Daniel-Reader
Is this what bitter people do when they get turned down on Grindr once too often?
sfhally
Another Catholic who can’t get past his upbringing.
“Sexual Addiction” doesn’t exist.
“I thought I needed to write a piece that would hold those members, some members of the community guilty of these sorts of behaviors, accountable.’
Fuck You.
Brian
@Kangol: I think Jaso Hill is calling a spade a spade. Gay-identifying men don’t like to hear the truth at times.
Having said that, we must remember that promiscuity is a choice that can be avoided through will. Morality can be a part of homosexuality.
Lookyloo
Right. And straight guys using Tinder and other hookup apps are just… uh… boys-being-boys like god intended.
(while women using tinder are sluts and sad-bad people of course).
Will the sex-shaming aimed at gay-men and straight-women ever end..?
(I almost hope not – because it’s usually pretty shm-funny-entertaining and totally ‘outs’ the shaming-people as unhinged)
Tracy Pope
Making a moral statement e.g “Promiscuity is immoral” is little more than one’s own opinion. Jason Hill felt he NEEDED to write and hold people accountable. Preachers, social conservatives and a lot of Republicans seem to have the same mental disorder.
DCguy
@Brian:
What a shock, on another post Brian, you defended the closet. And now here you are agreeing with somebody who is doing literally nothing more than taking the anti-gay rhetoric of the Jamaican politicians.
So in other words, they did what the GOP here tried to do, they tried to co-op Log Cabin which they did successfully and then create a completely GOP backed shill group GOProud because Log Cabin got caught with their pants down on the funding and ad spend questions.
So this guy has taken the exact same anti-gay rhetoric we’ve all been hearing for decades and just put it into a paper, called himself gay and now it’s getting printed up in queer publications.
Chris
Professor Hill’s picture should pop up whenever someone Googles the term “self loathing gay man.”
Jonathan26
Are any of the negative commenters actually in a long term relationship that began on Grinder, Scruff, or the like? Just wondering.
onthemark
Even the most promiscuous guys “age out of” promiscuous behavior. At 35 you just can’t get away with the same slutty stuff you did at 25. At 45 you just can’t do the same slutty stuff you did at 35. And so on. Even if you really wanted to – and you probably don’t – you can’t. Moot point. Before you know it you’re 50 and settled down with a nice guy (maybe with a similar background), without even planning on it. Much to the consternation of slut-shamers everywhere!
It’s funny that this puritanical young guy, who thinks he’s so smart, hasn’t even thought of this. Oh noooooo, he blames everything on the “culture.”
@justgeo: And he thinks the “culture” is totally different now because of the apps. As you point out, it’s not really.
highestbidder
@sfhally: sexual addiction doesn’t exist? Take a deep breath and pull your head out of the sand!