“Did you play with dolls or something,” Joy Behar obnoxiously asks newly out Georgia megapastor Jim Swilley about how he knew he was gay at age four, because of course all queer little boys want Barbies for Christmas. But one of the most interesting parts of Swilley’s journey is that he told his wife Debye (of 21 years) he was gay — before they got hitched.
There was sexual chemistry for both of them … in the beginning. And they conceived their children like most opposite-married couples. But after more than two decades of marriage, even Debye knew it was time to reveal that their union was based on love but not a heterosexual love affair.