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Which Married Male Singer Is Going To Divorce And Go Public With His Already-Out Singing Boyfriend?

BLIND ITEMS — “I have written about this couple before, but apparently it is getting to the point where some kind of public announcement is coming. I don’t remember how I described them in the past, but one is an openly gay male singer and the other is also male and a singer and is in a heterosexual marriage. Apparently, now that our married singer has ended his most recent tour, he is going to file divorce proceedings soon. He and the other singer are tired of living in the shadows and want to bring their relationship out in the open.” [CDAN] (Note: Accompanying photos do not indicate any relationship to the report.)

By:           JD
On:           Nov 30, 2010
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  • 153 Comments
    • Tessie Tura
      Tessie Tura

      Could this be Kris Allen and Adam Lambert? Or does Kris Allen even HAVE a career anymore???

      Nov 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      There aren’t that many openly gay male singers out there that I can think of.

      Elton John
      Rufus Wainwright
      Adam Lambert
      Ricki Martin
      Clay Aiken

      Am I missing somebody? Of all of those, as far as I’m aware, only Rufus, Clay, and Adam aren’t really publiclly dating anybody. Tessie, you might have nailed it.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brett
      Brett

      Lance Bass

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sam
      Sam

      Kris Allen is in the middle of a tour and straight, it’s not him.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Sam:

      Actually it looks like Kris Allen’s tour ends in just over a week. Could be him.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Yoinks!
      Yoinks!

      Clay Aiken and Vince Neil

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sam
      Sam

      @Cam, he is taking a Christmas break. And straight- some guys are, believe it or not.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Sam:

      Oh great, now we get the nasty fangirls/boys in here that keep pulling the “Dammit He’s straight!” “You gays just want everybody to be gay!” lines.

      Ugh, enough, go talk to the Clay Aiken and Ricki Martin fans and get back to me.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ruben
      ruben

      @Cam: Rufus has mentioned a boyfriend when doing press for his last album.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @ruben:

      Hmmm, narrows it down.

      does Lance Bass count as a singer? I didn’t include him because I figured he did back-up and hasn’t really had a singing career since then.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bobert
      Bobert

      Gavin R

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sam
      Sam

      @Cam, excuse me, but I know him (will be happy to email you some pics if you want proof) and am not a nasty fanboy.
      And if you can READ, the BI says “ended his most recent tour”.
      Kris has dates shceduled for at least 2 more weeks.
      AND, he is straight.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 2:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Sam:

      Yeah, whatever, His being straight or not being straight is less interesting than if somebody remotely famous actually came out.

      Bobert……now THAT would be a bit of a sonic boom!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sam
      Sam

      @Cam- yeah right, change the subject after your bluff was called.
      Asswipe.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 3:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Sam:

      What bluff? You’re just another freaked out little fanboy coming in here to rant about how your favorite singer is straight. The same thing happened with all of the Clay Aiken fans and Ricki Martin fans. I was bored of the discussion because there isn’t anything you could say that they didn’t already come in here and say when their idols were still “Straight”.

      But the fact that you are getting SO angry about it would lead me to now believe that there IS something to the rumor.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 3:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tazz602
      tazz602

      I LOVE that the Kris Allen fans are RABID that he is str8 and therefore CANNOT be the subject of this BI – just because of that, I vote for Kris and Adam and I will squeal with glee if all of your fantasy bubbles burst wide open.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 3:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michael
      michael

      I agree Bobert

      Gavin R

      Nov 30, 2010 at 3:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChiGuy76
      ChiGuy76

      Things that make you go, hmmmmmm……

      For the answer, I bet we have to wait until Howard Bagman’s “Coming Out” show airs in a couple of weeks. This sounds exactly like the type of publicity he would want/need to get this show off the ground.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 3:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mark
      Mark

      It’s Gavin R and Allen is straight – have you ever seen the way he dresses when not on stage?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blake
      Blake

      @Sam. I would like proof. Please e-mail me!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • carrie18
      carrie18

      @Sam: Kris just ended his fall tour with Lifehouse. He has a few radio shows coming up, but the tour is over. I actually think it’s Kris and Adam. They were super close during the tour last summer.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • terrry
      terrry

      Hey @cam three jingle ball dates do not a tour make. Kris himself said last week his tour was finished.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mark
      Mark [Different person #1 using similar name]

      It’s Allen/Lambert, for sure. There’s no way Allen’s straight, and his Lifehouse tour ended about 4 days ago.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sammy
      Sammy

      @Sam: He just finished his tour with Lifehouse a few days ago. The other shows over the next couple of weeks are radio Christmas concerts or solo gigs. And how can anyone “know” that someone is straight? Just cause he turned you down, doesn’t mean anything. You may just be too fug.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MuffinMan
      MuffinMan

      KRADAMMMMMMMM LIVESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joe
      Joe

      Definitely Lambert and Allen. The Idol people push Allen’s marriage way too hard for it to be legit, and he just ended a tour with Lifehouse. Like the others said, he has a few scattered shows coming up, but that’s not a tour.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeb
      Jeb

      This will be another yawn like that 3rd tier country singer this year.None of the above.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 4:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Anonymous
      Anonymous

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys are trying too hard lol!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • URAMASSENGILL
      URAMASSENGILL

      @sam Hey there Yuppster…and by the way, nice to have you trolling every blog to make sure no one dares call your perfect boy gay. How would you know? Who are you to be so certain?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RICKY
      RICKY

      The usual crap of lies huh?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Joe:

      I always thought it was funny that all the wingers were voting for Allen as their prototypical straight boy.

      I’m thinking “They are so desperate for Lambert not to win that it has never occured to them that they are voting for a tiny waifish little boy with a lisp as their savior from the big bad gays.”

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      I’m a fan of Kris Allen, and I was really charmed, and also curious about his relationship with Adam Lambert during the Idol show. I followed a lot of it, and have seen the majority of interviews with Kris, I’m sure.

      I double-dog dare ANYONE to find a clip or statement where Kris HIMSELF has stated he is straight. Every Single Time he’s asked anything about himself and Adam (back when management allowed there to even be questions regarding him) and the mumbling awkward excuse he’d always come up with for why it wasn’t true was that he was married. Never ever that it was because he’s straight.

      And you can be a plaid-wearing hick from christian southernville and still be gay wth talk about stereotypes (as i give one to refute one), ha

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Justin
      Justin

      @Sam…. It all seems like damage control to me.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Josh
      Josh

      As much as it would warm my heart to see Adam and Kris become a thing…I dont think this is them.

      They have always been very public about their relationship and how close they are. They are openly very affectionate toward each other, but it’s just understood that Kris has a wife.

      I actually appreciate their relationship a lot, because it proves that 1) two men can have an emotional connection and not be homos and 2) gay dudes and straight dudes can be friends without the straight on being paranoid about the gay one’s motives.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Josh:

      True, but he got married awfully young.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gordon
      Gordon

      @Jason There ARE no clips of Kris saying he is straight. Which is so, so telling.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gordon
      Gordon

      @Josh that’s BS. Their management put a stop to them being “publicly friendly” on the idol tour.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      @Josh – you know, you’re right about how they were so affectionate and open about each other – until halfway through the Idol tour.

      If you note any interview with Kris from say… Sept ’09 and after? Not only are Kris’s answers shorter about Adam, and often more inclusive mentioning friendships with the other people on tour, but then eventually you don’t even get any question asked about Adam, except the random ‘do you keep in touch?’, which, given what a fun topic it originally was to chat about, and how it used to make him light up, seems really odd. Like as tho management literally said ‘knock it off!’ or something.

      I do love the idea of gay and straight dudes in the public eye being able to be really great friends, of course. It’s just that with these two, there were so many ‘questionable’ little things that were only really paid attention to by obsessives like me, that it makes me think this blind item could really be about them.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Jason:

      Perhaps Adam is hung like a Rhino…it would explain why Kris’s jaw always looked a bit dislocated.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joe
      Joe [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @Jason: Don’t forget, they were roommates during the show and Adam made a comment to the effect of, “Oh great, they put me with the hot, straight guy”. So there was obvious attraction there from the beginning…at least on Adam’s side of things.

      Ya never know, but I do hate these blind items, because they just cause us to be little gossipy women at the hair salon. :-D

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      @Cam

      HA – you may have something there. I did hear that an ex-boyfriend said Adam was about 81/2 inches, so…

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Josh
      Josh

      @Jason:
      When you’ve won a huge talent contest and are trying to build yourself a career, I can imagine it would get kind of annoying to constantly be asked about another artist after several months of interviews.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Anon
      Anon

      Kris has never said he was straight, and there are a lot of things about the their relationship over the last year that don’t add up… or rather, that DO add up if you look at it from this perspective.

      Have any of you guys ever watched Kris Allen’s music video for his single The Truth? There’s a lot of really interesting imagery there. I also find this tshirt design that leaked today to be interesting. Kris apparently designed it himself.

      http://www.threebearsdesign.com/2010/11/kris-allen-t-shirt/

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      @JOE

      i think it went both ways, based on any interviews together with them. Kris is all moony-eyed puppy around Adam. google something like ‘kradam interview’ and you’ll see what i mean.

      i would feel bad for anyone’s wife of course, but these things are never simple, good guy/bad guy, and i admit i would be fascinated. Apparently I need a set of rollers for my hair!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Enrique
      Enrique

      Who’s Kris Allen?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kradamisadelusion
      kradamisadelusion

      “Apparently, now that our married singer has ended his most recent tour,”

      Um, excuse me? All of you deluded Kradam fans… When did Kris ever do a previous tour? “most recent” would indicate someone with an actual career, would it not? Someone who has toured in the past?

      It amazes me how invested these Glamtards are in a supposed relationship that never existed. They go so far to prove their fantasies that they impersonate people and hack into Facebook accounts. And then they swarm any potential mention of their obsession and spam the comments.

      Get over yourselves.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • terrry
      terrry

      @cam Lambert IS hung like a rhino, have you seen some of his tour vids? The guy goes commando sometimes and pops one on stage almost every night.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 5:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • terrry
      terrry

      @kradamisdelusional I guess headlining a sold out Idols tour doesn’t count as previous tour experience?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      @kradamisadelusion

      haha wow you mad.
      Kris just finished a tour with Lifehouse last week. He did a short tour over the summer. He toured last year for Idol. Just because he’s not popular up to your standards doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a nice little career going, and a little name recognition based on Idol.

      You seem more invested and angered than necessary over this.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • carrie18
      carrie18

      @kradamisadelusion: Kris has toured with Lifehouse, Keith Urban, and Maroon 5. He also headlined a pretty successful small tour at the beginning of the summer. I think this could really be Kradam.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RICKY
      RICKY

      @Gordon:

      Have you seen any straight man ever saying he’s straight before? Why does he have to? Should that even be a question?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mary Allen
      Mary Allen

      @Ricky If you are asked if you are having a relationship with an openly gay man who says he has a crush on you, then saying your straight would usually come up.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kayla
      Kayla

      Kradam fo sho.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lena
      Lena

      LOLOLOL!!!! If it’s KRADAM, after all this time, I’ll fall on my ass and die laughing. However, that’s too good to be true. It’s gotta be someone else.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @Rickey All he had to say was I’m straight, just once when asked about him and Adam, and it would have shut EVERYTHING down immediately. He chose to evade the question and fall back on the ring on his finger. You should probably talk to Darren Hayes and Elton John about being in the closet and married to a woman. They might have a story or two to tell.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Onyx
      Onyx

      http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/news/a/american_idol/2009/finale_show_perfs/140×105.jpg

      Thats the image from the post….

      Thank you TinEye

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Onyx
      Onyx

      http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/news/a/american_idol/2009/finale_show_perfs/140×105.jpg

      Thats the image from the post….

      Thank you TinEye[img]http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/news/a/american_idol/2009/finale_show_perfs/140×105.jpg[/img]

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Moi
      Moi

      Regardless of whether or not the blind item refers to Adam and Kris (though, it could certainly apply to them, as well as other artists), whoever this is about is going to need lots of support and positive vibes for the next few months. Coming out when you’re married, especially in the public eye, is difficult and will be very trying for the involved parties. Sending love!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      This is from right before the Idol tour. Short little videos where they interview each other.

      The hearteyes between them is ridiculous, undeniable, and really difficult to explain away as the vibe between ‘just good friends’ with no romantic notions between them.

      Just fyi :-)

      http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/246134/kradam-interview-each-other-idol-fans-heads-explode/

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kate
      Kate

      LOL I don’t think that it’s Kris and Adam either (although if it was I’d be happy for them both), but the defensiveness in this post is amazing to behold. If you really think it’s so delusional and false, why the fuck are you so mad about it?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      lol it’s not adam and kris

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lena
      Lena

      @Jason, this is the first time I’ve seen those videos. They’re flirting like crazy there. The attraction is palpable. I still don’t think the blind item involves Kradam, but the videos made me think twice about the concept. Wow.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mary Allen
      Mary Allen

      @scc How do you know?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      @MaryAllen Because Adam is always seen hitting on other guys?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jason
      Jason

      @Lena, so you can see though why i’m like, ‘oh my, maybe?’ about it being them, right? And consider this is how silly they act in a couple of mini interviews with each other, and then consider they spent every single day together for months on that show, roommates, and then every single day together for months on tour? With that vibe between them? Umm…. !

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • McMike
      McMike

      The picture is Kris and Adam so they’re talking about Kris and Adam. The only reason why these are ‘blind items’, and what makes this blind items ROCK, is that the picture is always the person they’re talking about.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      Wow, google Kradam, shit, it might be them.

      [img]http://oi50.tinypic.com/fok9rn.jpg[/img]

      [img]http://oi45.tinypic.com/14dh6c4.jpg[/img]

      [img]http://oi46.tinypic.com/112hct5.jpg[/img]

      [img]http://oi49.tinypic.com/10wpeuv.jpg[/img]

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stephen
      Stephen

      You all fall right into queerty’s plan to pump up hits for ad revenue. Nothing will come of this like 99% of all queerty predictions / posts. Besides, would be so disappointed in Kris Allen if he got hooked up with that girlie troll Lambert – he could do better.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      a group of people who ship them and legit thinks they’re a couple seems to have found your site.

      Adam has been seen dating and hitting on other guys, there’s pictures if you look. So no, I’m not believing this at all. I doubt these guys even see each other much anymore.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 6:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mary Allen
      Mary Allen

      @scc all the better for deflection until time for the truth to come out. PR

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • macmo
      macmo

      Kris and Adam? bwahahaha … Kris is so in love with his wife :)

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gordon
      Gordon

      @RICKY: when he is straight up asked about Kradam and he says “I’m married,” and not “I’m straight,” it raises eyebrows.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @scc every interview adam has done for the last 8 months has asked him if he’s single, his answer, yes, he’s not dating anyone, he’s not even hooking up. There aren’t even any pictures of him kissing anyone, except for when he’s putting on a show during his concert, and all his appearances at clubs are paid appearances. He gets 10K for each one. Not bad bank for him to show up for an hour.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Miss Muffinz
      Miss Muffinz

      @kradamisadelusion: Soooo…The Idols’ Live Tour didn’t count as a tour?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      @Marry Allen lol yeah sure.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      @Terrry: lol no there’s picture evidence and reports of him kissing on guys in clubs.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @scc No, there aren’t. There are pics of him in clubs surrounded by boys, which are again, paid appearances, because they were advertised, but there are no pictures of him making out with anyone other than Jake Shears for a viral video and a couple fans, male and female at two of his shows, that’s all there is.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RICKY
      RICKY

      @Gordon</@Gordon:

      Well, I don’t care about your kradam stuff but I just find it strange he has to answer that he’s straight because I think every man is assumed to be straight until he says otherwise lol!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @scc, Unless you’re talking about the pic of him kissing a member of his opening band on the cheek last week, then yes, there is that.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @RICKY: Well, you know what happens when you assume!!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Miss Muffinz
      Miss Muffinz

      This really sounds like Kris and Adam. I can’t think of anyone else it could be. (Of course there’s always the option it isn’t true, but we’ll see.)

      I’ve never seen a married couple look so less in love than Kris and Katy Allen. They look like friends, or brother and sister.

      Go compare pictures of Kris with Adam and Kris with Katy. See a difference?

      I sometimes forget Kris is even married.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lena
      Lena

      Yes, I can see why you’d say it’s them. I still don’t think it’s them, because…I don’t know lol! The rumor’s been out for too long. If it’s them, there’ll be hell to pay on both sides. Kris is going to be seen as a wife betrayer; Adam’s going to be seen as hell spawn who converted a good Christian boy, so, ouch.

      If there is any truth to this blind item, whether it’s Kradam or someone else, I wish them luck.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      @Terrry: Not all of his appearances at clubs are paid. He’s still kissing and hitting on guys even if they were paid. When he was in finland he was seen kissing Sauli from finland Big Brother. There’s pictures too.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mary Allen
      Mary Allen

      @scc Yeah, and Kris is still married and PR pushes their publicly loveless marriage all the time. So PR was doing a good job of deflection, until paps discovered something and now I think they’re giving up.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @scc: I’ve seen what you’re talking about and there was no actual kissing picture. There were pictures that looked like they were kissing. Its called publicity, you should look it up. Do you think if Adam wanted to hook up, he’d be using the biggest gossiper in Finland to do it? He knew what he was doing, he waned publicity and so did Sauli, guess what, they got it didn’t they?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jackson
      Jackson

      You people can’t realize you’re being played with this item.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @Jackson: This isn’t the first one, and it wasn’t posted here first. There was another one from the original source some months ago. There’s a third one along this same vein from a completely difference source also.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      @Terrry: you’re embarrassing yourself.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @scc: If you say so.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • scc
      scc

      @Jackson: Apparently not.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • notKradam
      notKradam

      Hate to burst bubbles, but its not Kris & Adam.Sorry but Kris is still happily married & Adam has been dating someone off & on for about a year & trying to hide it :)

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Terrry
      Terrry

      @notKradam: LOL, no, he was banging him for a brief period, and then realized the guy was completely crazy and backed up off that right quick. But he did manage to keep it pretty quiet while it was going on, which is why all the club nonsense is nonsense. If Adam wants to screw someone, people won’t know about it.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Hahahaha
      Hahahaha

      That pic is definitely Kradam from the finale, so can this website really get away with doing this stuff if it’s not true?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lena
      Lena

      How could it be Kradam? Adam’s been touring like a mad man, 100 or more concerts since June. Before that he was dating another guy. Kris has been touring, too, and promoting a song. How would they manage a secret affair? They’d have to use doubles and that wouldn’t be fun. Kradam doesn’t work.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Moi
      Moi

      @notKradam: I don’t know many happily married couples, where the husband’s a singer, and the wife sits in the front row reading a book :)

      Nov 30, 2010 at 7:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alice
      Alice

      @Lena: There are plenty of people out there who do long distance relationships.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 8:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lyoness7
      Lyoness7

      @Cam: LOL I know huh!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 8:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Russell
      Russell

      I knew Kris was hinky, I just knew it!!
      This is going to be so much fun watching the Kristards melt down!!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 9:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kirk
      Kirk

      Whoever it turns out to be I wish them luck, sounds like it will be a shit storm of epic proportions!

      Nov 30, 2010 at 9:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lyoness7
      Lyoness7

      I just hope it isn’t Allen. Adam deserves someone equally glamourous and fierce and fabulous. Not someome who lives in plaid and has a 3 year olds facination with bodily functions.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 9:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mac McNeill
      Mac McNeill

      It’s David Cook and David Archuleta. Well, Archuleta denies being gay so much he probably is.

      Kris is hot, wouldn’t mind waking up and finding him in my bed.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 9:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • carrie18
      carrie18

      @Lyoness7: Um…have you seen Kris Allen. He’s pretty hot. I’m sure Adam thinks so too.
      [img]http://topidol.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/kris-allen-guido-face.jpg[/img]
      [img]http://topidol.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/kris-allen-guido-face.jpg[/img]
      [img]http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/.a/6a00d8341c58f853ef0134855dca43970c-800wi[/img]
      [img]http://static.blogcritics.org/10/11/23/148955/38726-425923722660-83710317660-4617219-7756488-n.jpg[/img]

      [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2mq71nn.jpg[/img]

      Nov 30, 2010 at 9:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Anon
      Anon [Different person #1 using similar name]

      This site is ridiculous. That’s what I get for surfing the net. What kind of junk is all of this? Now that you have stirred up the pot, when do you people plan to do the big reveal? Does anyone take this seriously?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 10:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alan brickman
      alan brickman

      What happened to Morning Goods? you can publish this drivel…

      Nov 30, 2010 at 10:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dan
      Dan

      Poor little Allen fangirls. At first I really didn’t give a fuck, but after watching all of you sad sacks positively rage at the mere thought of your idol sucking cock I pray to the black baby jesus it’s true.

      Just to hear that satisfying sound of your empty little heads exploding…

      Nov 30, 2010 at 11:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alice
      Alice

      @Dan: Actually, I think a large number of his fans do think he’s gay, and just want him to be with the man (or woman, if we’re wrong) he loves. There is a large segment that is convinced he’s straighter than straight, but a sizable group disagrees.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 11:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John
      John

      If this is even remotely true, of which I have my doubts, than assuming I’ve even heard of the guy this will be my reaction:

      “Huh. Interesting. I wonder what’s on TV?”

      Gay or straight I hope they’re happy but whichever they are has no bearing on my life.

      Nov 30, 2010 at 11:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Anon
      Anon [Different person #2 using similar name]

      A good number of you need to go back to Beep and quit pretending to be dudes. Okay, Jason & Gordon? Just to name a few.

      With Love,

      You Know Where

      Nov 30, 2010 at 11:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alice
      Alice [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @Anon: Hey Yuppie! How’s it going? Say hi to You-Know-Who! Has she read any good boo-Er, gotten a new pho-been to any of Kris’ shows lately?

      Nov 30, 2010 at 11:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Anyway
      Anyway

      Love the speculation! As much as I’d love it to be Kradam, it’s probably going to be some aging nobody even more obscure than that country singer from earlier this year.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 12:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JoJo
      JoJo

      Good Lord, Adam Lambert can do so much better than the boring dull Kris Allen so can you all just STFU about them having something going already! And for the ones aying shit about Adam you can STFU too! Adam is busy touring the world with his sold out tour, making music, and enjoying life with HIS friends, not a silly aqaintance from idol who isn’t the innocent goody two shoe boy you all think he is!

      Dec 1, 2010 at 12:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Josh
      Josh

      @JoJo:

      Kris wasn’t a silly acquaintance, they actually became very close friends during Idol. They may not be a couple, but they’re definitely more than just two contestants from the same season.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 12:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gregger
      gregger

      @Cam: I had the same shit when Ricky Martin was in Les Miz on Broadway and hanging out in the Big Cup (a gay coffee bar in Chelsea) with a baseball cap and sun glasses over his face. When ever I would talk about it, some bitter young thing would call me a liar and talk about Ricky’s “girlfriend.”

      Dec 1, 2010 at 2:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tarxien
      tarxien

      @Cam:

      Rufus announced his engagement to long term boyfriend, Jorn Weisbrodt, last week, on stage at the Royal Albert Hall, London. They have not yet decided whether to get married in Canada or Germany.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 2:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jackson
      Jackson [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Kris & the ~wife. See what you will.
      [img]http://i54.tinypic.com/a1j152.jpg[/img]

      Dec 1, 2010 at 3:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DANIEL
      DANIEL

      I can see a lot of crazy peeps who call themselves fans here. Oh God! apparently Kris is married and wouldn’t fuck them so they have to hide behind Kradam and pretend his marriage is irrelevant.
      Hmmmmmm If he doesn’t show interest in any other woman, then he has to be gay, lol! Sorry that Katy foiled your chances.
      I don’t think Adam is that stupid to go after a married man.Give these two guys who respect each other some credit. Hahahaha.
      Hmmm! If he doesn’t look at them, he must be gay, lol!

      Dec 1, 2010 at 3:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      The record company bosses will go all out to stop this coming out. Record company bosses in America – especially in the pop music field – are extremely homophobic towards the concept of male-male sexuality. In fact, they are like the Religious Right in their attitude to male-male sexuality.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 5:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dollie
      Dollie

      Note to Queerty: Slow news day? Reference Lambert- thousands of views, 100+ posts, and at least 4 trolls, guaranteed! Crazy how interested we are ( definitely include myself) in this guy’s personal life!!

      I do hope it’s Allen and Lambert. I really do believe we need more gay (particularly male) “power couples.” And… they’re pretty darn cute together!

      Dec 1, 2010 at 6:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • aunt_deen
      aunt_deen

      Kris flirted like crazy with Adam. He also flirts with ANY guy he likes and is comfortable with. Don’t believe me? Look at picture of him with his male friends. Watch his interviews with Jim Cantiello. He joked recently that he’s “in love with Keith Urban.” He’s a flirt. He’s cuddly. He’s always been that way.

      I have no problem whatsoever with anyone being gay. If I’m wrong, I will continue to be a fan of both Kris and Adam (as soon as I pick myself up off the floor) and wonder how I misread things.

      But it’s not Kris.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 6:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Jackson:

      Wow, that picture of him with his wife is more gay looking than if there was a pic of he and Adam Lambert naked and making out. He has that uncomfortable “Gay Best Friend” distance from her. holding that ridiculous dog. LOL!

      Wow.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 6:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cook
      Cook

      @aunt_deen: You should think about what you just typed. Say it out loud if that helps.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 7:56 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anonymouse
      anonymouse

      This article is ridiculous! If the pic is unrelated to the story, why use it? Your intention was obviously to incite speculation on a dormant rumor. Posting this kind of inflammatory innuendo is the reason it is impossible for Adam and Kris to be friends. And yes, News Flash, a gay guy and a straight guy CAN be friends. Support their careers but leave their privates lives alone.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 8:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kirk
      Kirk

      Thanks for the Kradam pictures, whoever you are. They would make a cute couple. And that pic of Kris and his wife… just lol.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 9:40 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Amelia
      Amelia

      I must say this BI is making me LOL — or rather, the responses are making my morning a laugh riot.

      It won’t be the end of the world if Kris Allen announces he’s gay unless you’re his wife or a fan overly invested in his heterosexuality (such as voting for Kris only as a vote against Adam or being so delusional as to think you have a chance with him as long as he’s het).

      It wouldn’t exactly surprise me if Kradam were true. I am so totally not invested in their relationship, but there was obvious chemistry between the boys that went far beyond platonic friendship. I largely pooh-poohed the obsession in the fandom until I saw the candid photos from GMA last August, which IMO showed a “couple” and made me wonder. Interestingly enough, within a few days, there was obvious tension between the two of them. Along the way, when queried about Kris, Adam went from saying there was nothing between them because Kris was straight to saying there was nothing between them because Kris was MARRIED. It was such a marked and clear change that even I noticed it. My sister — who cares about neither of them — happened to be visiting one day and saw an interview and laughed, “Oh, so he’s not together with that Kris guy because Kris is married, not because he’s straight?”

      And then Kradam largely disappeared. I began to wonder if their relationship was one of those summer camp relationships. Kris did not attend Adam’s birthday party after he tweeted publicly about it, which seemed oddly rude. Even more odd was that neither ever attended ANY of each other’s solo shows. I wondered if Kris had just moved on to another and another and another guy to crush on — because he sure flirts with a lot of guys.

      So either their relationships was just a summer camp friendship and it’s DONE or they were told to cool it by management or family pressure and it’s DONE or the BI is about them. Make your choice and write your fanfic accordingly.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 9:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kacey
      kacey

      Adam can surely do better than this southern hick, whose lifestyle is in no way compatible with his. Lol at anyone analyzing the looks between them to assess that they were having a relationship. Not to mention that Adam’s been seeing someone else and probably hasn’t spoken to Kris in a year. But yeah, I’m sure it’s them.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 10:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Me
      Me

      As somebody mentioned earlier, there have been a few previous blinds about this or a similar story on two different gossip sites. This was the blind the other day on Crazy Days and Nights (note that the photo was not included, this must have been the addition of Queerty):
      http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2010/11/todays-blind-items_29.html

      There was an earlier blind on the same website in July entitled “Secretly Singing Duets”:
      http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2010_07_11_archive.html

      In August, Blind Gossip published this blind, titled “Leaving their Spouse and Coming Out,” which refers not to singers, but “reality show people”:
      http://blindgossip.com/?p=20891

      The other day, Blind Gossip reprinted the Crazy Days and Nights blind and suggested that it might be related to their own August blind.
      http://blindgossip.com/?p=23810

      The Blind Gossip editor has previously said that he/she does not know the answers to the blinds he/she reprints from other blogs, but DOES know the answer to the ones authored by him/her. This means that he/she knows the answer to who the “reality show people” are. If this is the case, then it is interesting they think that their reality show blind item might be related to a blind item about two male singers. Could the subjects be both singers and reality show people?

      I do believe that all of these blinds are about Kradam. Whether they are actually true or not is another story. Only time will tell.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 10:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Eric
      Eric

      Like all of these blind items, there will be no announcement.
      On the freak chance that there is, don’t count on Kris and Adam, but people even less relevant if that is even possible.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 11:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bob
      bob

      @terrry: AH HA HA… you young people really are amusing me this morning. This old theatre buff can see you know NOTHING about enhancers or stage props. Trust me, no one can make it happen at will, thus we stage folk rely on smoke and mirrors. But dream on !

      Dec 1, 2010 at 11:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kim
      Kim

      Whoever that article is talking deserve to have people not speculate and make assumptions on who it is or isn’t. If the article is even true that couple will probably face a lot of hostility and prejudices-too bad this world can’t just be accepting of people, whether gay, straight, black, white etc… its the 21st century everyone deserves to be loved and happy and not protested, picked on, bullied……

      Dec 1, 2010 at 11:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Casey
      Casey

      Ladies, Ladies, you all crack me up. It’s Robbie Williams and Joe McElderry.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 1:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charlie Jackpot
      Charlie Jackpot

      Kris Allen is hot Adam Lambert is fugly

      Dec 1, 2010 at 1:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • aunt_deen
      aunt_deen

      @Cook: He flirts with guys so that makes him gay, right? Yeah, I thought someone might take it in that direction.

      Kris flirts with ALL of his male friends. Unless you’re willing to argue that he’s attracted to all his male friends (and knowing what his friends look like, I’d say that means he has quite the wide-ranging “type”) you can’t say that means he’s gay. He’s just affectionate and jokey about it.

      Adam makes out with girls on occasion. Does that make him straight? Or even bi? No.

      But whatever. Go ahead and wait for the “Kradam is real” announcement. You might want to get really comfortable.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 2:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Devon
      Devon

      Well played Queerty. Well played…

      Dec 1, 2010 at 6:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • me
      me

      Hey, moderator- you never published my comment from this morning. Was it the links? They were good relevant ones, not spam.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 9:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JosephM
      JosephM

      Well on the plus side Kris Allen is getting a bit of attention again!!! The last time I remember him getting any curious attention other than for winning Idol, was when Lambert commented on his attraction to Allen in Rolling Stone. Oh and there was that poll on the gay site a few months back. Coming out might not be a bad idea for Allen. Gays seem to like him even if his career is in the toilet.

      Dec 1, 2010 at 10:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sally
      Sally

      You really should’ve used a stock photo… :|

      Dec 1, 2010 at 10:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brett
      Brett

      I am all for it being Kris and Adam.

      However, could be Kevin Jonas?

      Dec 2, 2010 at 1:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • me
      me

      Still no post? It had links to previous blinds on two different websites that combined together very strongly suggest it’s Kris and Adam. Two of the blinds refer to a couple of male singers but the other blind, very similar, about someone coming out and leaving their spouse for another, referred to them as reality show people. A recent post from the second website would suggest that these blinds are all related. I realize that posting links flags the post as spam, but I would hope within a few hours you would read it and realize it was not. Oh well, everyone’s loss.

      Dec 2, 2010 at 9:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Erik
      Erik

      Um, Why is everyone stuck on Adam and Kris? Out singer: Ricky Martin… who is dating someone.. but he hasn’t discussed who it is.. Who the married singer is we will have to wait and see when he walks on a red carpet on Ricky’s arm.

      Dec 2, 2010 at 12:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Zastusar
      Zastusar

      I’d never heard of Kris Allen and had to google him to find out who he is. This BI surely must be about someone most people will at least recognize, right? Otherwise it’s not very interesting. My guess is that @Erik is right about the out singer being Ricky Martin. If it’s him, I hope the married singer is at least someone I don’t have to google to find out who he is!

      Dec 2, 2010 at 2:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • YOMOMMABITCH
      YOMOMMABITCH

      @Dan: OMG OUT OF LINE BUT I CAN SEE THE GAYNESS THROUGH PEOPLE AND I CAN SEE IT THROUGH KRIS ALLEN, HE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER THAN LAMBERT THOUGH! EWW

      Dec 3, 2010 at 8:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SallyStruthersMania
      SallyStruthersMania

      Kris Allen’s homophobic fans refuse to acknowledge that he is the one in the blind item! He hasn’t much of a career so he’s nothing to lose by admitting his love for the divalicious Mr.Lambert. They shared a room while doing Idol so maybe they were sexually involved.

      Dec 7, 2010 at 3:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Currie
      Currie

      @SallyStruthersMania: Kris’s first single “Live Like We’re Dying” is almost Double Platinum and he’s toured with Maroon 5, Keith Urban, and Lifehouse. He hasn’t had a very showy career, but he’s done okay.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 6:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • db
      db

      I’m going with Ricky Martin. He has refused to name his SO in any interviews post-“Me,” saying only that the man has met Ricky’s twins and “loves” them. AND he has acknowledged that this man is not out yet.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 7:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Me
      Me

      Ricky Martin’s boyfriend is a Puerto Rican man he grew up with. There have been photos of them on the Internet and Ricky has confirmed he is sharing his life with this man and he is helping him raise his children. I won’t post links because last time I did that it took 3 days for the post to show up. If you Google Ricky Martin boyfriend you will find all you need to know. The only way this could be Ricky Martin is if he broke up with this guy since these photos leaked last spring and took up with someone else. I personally think the story is probably about Kris Allen and Adam Lambert, but it could also be Joe McElderry. The item never said the singers were American, after all. The reality show angle would fit him too. Not sure who the married guy would be, maybe Robbie Williams but he was so adamant about being straight and even sued a tabloid a couple years ago for saying he was gay. Could also be Clay Aiken, as he was a reality show person. But who is the married guy? Ruben? Kind of yuck.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 11:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John D
      John D

      Do these blind items ever get followed up with real information? Or are they always a sort of titillating guessing game. Real? Fictional?

      Did you hear about the big name star who into really kinky gay sex behind his famous wife’s back? Can’t say who it is, because I’m making this up as I type.

      If it’s real, report it. If it’s just stroke fiction, aren’t there other websites for that?

      Dec 14, 2010 at 8:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jckfmsincty
      jckfmsincty

      Lance Bass and Reichen Lehmkuhl are getting back together?

      Dec 18, 2010 at 6:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Becca
      Becca

      Actually, what Adam said was “Oh great, they put me with the hot, “cute” guy”, not the hot straight guy!

      Dec 21, 2010 at 10:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sean.
      Sean.

      Lol @ that pic of Kris and his wife, that pretty much backfired in your defense that he’s straight (Or added to it, idk what your motive was). But yeah, they pretty much came to my mind when I heard this BI. To the people who say they don’t make a good couple, ever heard of ‘opposites attract’.

      Kris is delish, end of story. :]

      Dec 24, 2010 at 8:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • diana_alax_kent
      diana_alax_kent

      Of course it’s not Adam Lambert and Kris Allen. There’re rumors that Sauli Koskinen is Adam’s new boyfriend after his appearant with Adam at Adam’s 29th bday party. There’re also some pictures of them hanging out at Disneyland.

      Feb 3, 2011 at 12:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kradam4ever
      kradam4ever

      http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2011/02/blind-items-revealed_28.html

      Monday, February 28, 2011
      Blind Items Revealed

      (originally poted July 16, 2010)

      This is actually three rather than four. It happens.

      These two singers are B list although one of them probably has close to A list name recognition. Both male. Anyway, it turns out that when they worked on a project together they ended up falling for each other. So far, it is being covered up for the sake of one of them who is involved with a woman.

      #1&2 – singers
      #3 – project they worked on together.

      #1 – Adam Lambert
      #3 – American Idol

      Mar 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      I am a total Kradam stan. It better be Adam Lambert and Kris Allen!

      Mar 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • diana_alax_kent
      diana_alax_kent [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Hey. Just accept it’s not Kradam. Adam admitted he was dating and the lucky one is Sauli Koskinen

      May 6, 2011 at 12:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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