Yesterday, “Matt Drudge’s bitch” Andrew Breitbart said “we will not be releasing all of the material [surrounding Representative Anthony Weiner’s sexting scandal] because some of it is of an extreme, graphic nature.” And we said “one way or another, those photos will somehow find themselves online soon enough.” That day has come… and it is shamefully tasty.
Dan Savage live-blogged Weiner’s live press-conference on Monday in typical Savage style:
He says he’s not going to resign.
And why should he? Clinton didn’t, Craig didn’t, Vitter didn’t, Weiner shouldn’t.
Sometimes I hate reporters: “Why would you do this after you were married?” Um… because members of congress, like members of the press, get horny sometimes. And sometimes male members of congress, like male members of the press, think with their dicks. And sometimes men—married men—rub one out with an assist from the World Wide Web. Film at 11. Weiner was horny and went online and flirted and beat it a few times. He created his own porn, his own interactive porn, like millions of other Americans have done, and continue to do, every damn day. And the Internet provided Wiener with the same thing it provides for tens of millions of other men in monogamous relationships: needed release, safe variety…
A reporter asks if Weiner was drinking or using drugs—if he has a problem—because only a man who has a drinking problem or a drug problem could get caught up in something like this. Do reporters know what men are like? (And lots of women too?) This desire to pathologize behavior that isn’t sick—that is, indeed, very common and human and completely and instantly understandable—is itself pathological. Weiner does not have a problem. He has a computer. The whole world has Weiner’s problem: same old horniness, brand new box.
Cord Jefferson from GOOD said that journalists should stay out of the story since Weiner isn’t a “family values” hypocrit:
If you look at Weiner’s eight terms in office, not a single one has been bolstered by his commitment to “family values.” If anything, Weiner has made it his modus operandi to destroy pieces of legislation that would infringe on people’s civil rights, especially when it comes to issues of sexual orientation and gender. NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Weiner a 100 percent rating for his reproductive rights voting in 2006. He’s also voted no on a bill to ban gay adoptions and a constitutional amendment that would have banned same-sex marriage. For more than a decade, in fact, Weiner has said that LGBT people should have the right to get married outright, a stance he says he says is “noncontroversial” in his mind.
Compare Weiner’s legislative decisions to that of Senator David Vitter, who once equated gay marriage to natural disasters after he himself had visited numerous prostitutes. Or former Senator Larry Craig, who chastised the philandering Bill Clinton as being “a nasty, bad, naughty boy” but was later arrested for trying to have gay sex in an airport bathroom. If you try to legislate morality, you should probably be squeaky clean in your own affairs. If not, you’re not just lying to the public, as Weiner did, you’re also lying to yourself. You’re holding yourself to one standard while trying to pass laws that would hold the rest of the country to another. That’s much more dangerous than a legislator trying to cover up a sleazy Twitter exchange.
Today McSweeney’s also released “Fragments from Weiner! The Musical”, a show that includes the verse, “I have been struggling as of late/ deciding if it’s right or wrong/ To use these social network sites/ To send a picture of your schlong… Well, not even the schlong exposed!/ But inside boxer briefs and posed/ To look much larger than it is/ So gasping, they’ll say “Is that his?”
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Right Wingers Are Socioptahs (John From England)
Oh the shock! Breibart was LYING!!!
And yes, we all already know this. The guy isn’t a hypocrite like the GOP senates but do you blame the immoral GOP who hates ‘dem nasty coloreds and faggy people who won’t just sit back and quit’ for milking this as much as they can? What else they got?
This was too easy. It was a set up. Duh. But Weiner was an IDIOT for not watching his back every step of the way as a Clinton ally. This isn’t Pollyanna world, it’s the frigging American political landscape.
Get a grip Democrats.
hyhybt
Some will say that he needs to go because his lying about this proves he cannot be trusted. But really, it proves exactly the opposite. We now know just how *bad* at lying this guy is.
The crustybastard
@hyhybt:
Imagine the Feds actually picked up some kid for “hacking” Weiner’s account. That’s what he was basically inviting law enforcement to do.
You okay with that?
hyhybt
@The crustybastard: I wouldn’t be…. but that would require their *believing* his story (which nobody did) and then, after investigating, finding some evidence that he really had been hacked, and by that person. They don’t go around arresting random people for no reason.
TMikel
When we grow up and are a mature people, we will no longer care about and be obsessed with the sex lives of celebrities, including members of Congress. ALL Democrats need to understand that they MUST keep their noses clean. The GOP is just waiting to catch them all in scandal. Weiner might be a good representative, but he obviously forgot that key lesson and now he and we all will pay for it.
Matt_miami
Until they release the Gay Weiner picks and tweets, I don’t really see what this Gay only agenda website is doing covering this story so much. Once again the gay agenda is taking second place to the liberal left-wing agenda.
Please stop with the right-wing republicans are racist comments. The Democrat party has a 185 year history of supporting segregation, slavery, the KKK, interment camps, and even stopped the civil rights act of 1957. In the last 15 years racist southern democrates have switched to the republican party because the democrate party has moved into socialism.
David Ehrenstein
This is all exceptionally primitive. Back in the dya the lieks of Weiner were put in stocks in the public quare and peopel threw eggs at them. Now we’ve got cable TV and the internet.
The crustybastard
@hyhybt: Really? You don’t think law enforcement goes on fishing expeditions and uses the flimsiest of evidence or simply trumps up reasons to arrest and detain people?
Really?
mikeandrewsdantescove
I would have to say that Andrew Breitbart has c*ck envy.
Mike
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The crustybastard
@TMikel:
I didn’t give half a shit how Mr. Wiener comports himself sexually because I’m not sleeping with him and he’s never made my sexuality an issue.
However, It pissed me off when he accused someone else of committing a crime to cover up his shame over his bad behavior. It’s not functionally different from morning-after regret manifesting as a false accusation of rape.
If it’s not okay for a teenage girl to do it, it’s not okay for a congressman.
Southside Shorty
I think the public is fascinated by Weiner’s ugliness, both internal and external, so it’s no surprise the pics got out. Woulda happened anyhow.
Matt_miami
Doesn’t anyone remember susan Smith. She is the one who put her two kids in a car and drove the car into a lake. than later said two black guys stole her car with the kids in it. unfortunately in that case it took her a month to admit what really happened. Good things the police didn’t arrest anyone in connection to her false accusations.
ron
I still don’t get what the issue is. A liberal male acting in a sexually liberated fashion is hardly news. Cheating is between he and his wife. Americans are weird.
Gigi
@The crustybastard: You certainly live up to you handle! The Feds weren’t called in because Wiener didn’t want them to be. No one was arrested. That’s all.
Gigi
@Southside Shorty: I’m fascinated by your ugliness.
Erich
More importantly, how did he take the photo from that angle?
Robert in NYC
This only proves Breitbart is a GOP shill and a sleaze, not much different to Weiner. He said he wouldn’t publish the explicit photo unless Weiner took legal action against him. What a friggin liar, but then, he’s a republican, they lie too and are masters of the double-standard.
I don’t think Weiner should resign at all. He had no physical contact with these women, in fact, didn’t commit adultery. However, Gingrich did, three times as well as the other serial adulterer, Rudy Giuliani who is deciding whether to run in 2012. I want to see how Breitbart et al handle that one.
Caliban
Well I for one am VERY disappointed in Representative Weiner! Can’t he take a better, less blurry dick-pic than that?! It’s not even a dick-pic, it’s a pic of a dick-pic, which is more of a tongue-twister than Congressman Weiner’s todger-shot offered up!
Shoddy workmanship. That’s all I have to say!
Sean
@Caliban I think the original pic might be clearer; this is just the pick of Breitbart’s copy of the pic on his iPhone. I’m not sure if Breitbart meant it to go public when he showed the DJs the photo (if he did, he woulda let them take a much better shot, this looks like the camera was moving).
Michael
Actually, after seeing the pic I have a new “out look” on Weiner, so to say.
That shite was HUGE!
Albert
Obviously Breitbart did not release this picture. Socialism cannot progress without lying.
The crustybastard
@Gigi: ” The Feds weren’t called in because Wiener didn’t want them to be. No one was arrested. That’s all.”
You’re kinda simple, aren’t you?
The Feds aren’t Mr. Wiener’s boutique security firm to be dispatched or not at his whim. A crime is not committed against a person, it’s committed against the state. Law enforcement doesn’t just drop by to see if you’ve had any trouble lately. Complaining that one has been the victim of a crime is the first step in the criminal investigation process.
You don’t get a free pass from lodging false accusations merely because no arrests were made, although I suspect that even if someone had been arrested you still wouldn’t blame Weiner.
Gigi Gee
@The crustybastard: I stand by my earlier comment.
redball
GOOD LORD all of that hoopla for some blurry-ass photo.
YAWN.
JKB
I think we are all missing the important point here: his balls are shaved. yum!
Gigi Gee
@Sean: Bratbart wasn’t going to show anyone. Uh huh. Love the way he was crying that his Memorial Day weekend was ruined. Big deal! If he wasn’t so hell bent on bringing down the Dems perhaps that wouldn’t have been the case. But then he wouldn’t have a job either.
Sean
@Gigi Gee: I still think if Breitbart meant for it to be leaked, he’d have allowed a better picture than the blurry mess that’s there now.
Anyone else think it’s “odd” that a supposedly straight guy keeps a naked cockshot of someone else on his phone?
B
No. 20 · The crustybastard wrote (replying to someoene else), “You don’t get a free pass from lodging false accusations merely because no arrests were made, although I suspect that even if someone had been arrested you still wouldn’t blame Weiner.”
Weiner did not make a false accusation in the legal sense – he made a statement to the press that some random person had hacked into his personal account (not a government account) but he did not file a police report. My guess is that he didn’t file a complaint with Twitter either.
Given what we know now, the reason he was having his own security firm “look into it” was that he knew better than to file a false report with a law-enforcement agency, which is a crime.
Caliban
@Sean: Are you kidding? What, you think the DJs knocked Breitbart over the head and pried his phone out of his hand so they could take a pic of it?
No. He let them do it. This way the exact nature of the photo comes out, but hey, HE kept his “word.” He didn’t release the photo, somebody else did it.
This is Andrew Breitbart we’re talking about, the man who very cleverly edited a video to make Shirley Sherrod seem like a raging racist when the entire point of her speech was exactly the opposite. If you think anything he does is an accident you’re not paying attention.
The crustybastard
@B:
It was not Weiner’s good sense that prevented him from lodging an official complaint with the authorities. Quite the contrary, it was his growing awareness that he’d be getting into even deeper shit.
But if the purpose of your statement is to assert that making false criminal accusations is okay if you only make them in the media, I’d have to disagree.
jpmoneypants
How stupid are you people? I hope this is not where you get your news as almost nothing in this article is true. Its sad that people take these lies seriously. It only hurts the country.
TommyOC
Where’s my buddy dan4? Hrm? On other posts on the subject, dude comes out swinging defending the integrity of Breitbart and his biggovernment.com website. Calls people who disagree with him vulgar and slanderous words because he lacks the intelligence to debate the subject intelligently. What does he have to say now, huh?
Not defending Rep Weiner or anything, but if you’re a man claiming to take the high road, maybe you should try to, oh, I don’t know… take it.
Who’s the bigger tool, dan4? Weiner’s, Breitbart, or you? I gotta say, Weiner runs a distant third… but you’re neck-and-neck for the title, buddy.
ZT
No 26 : B : That’s an important point. Not to excuse Weiner’s dishonesty, but it’s not like he falsely blamed a type of person (like Susan Smith did) or specific people (like Crystal Mangum did).
robert in NYC
Breitbart of course overlooked David Vitter’s dalliances with five prostitutes, crimes of moral turpitude, two of whom he called from the floor of the Congress to make sex dates according to his cell phone records that were seized. He gets caught, isn’t asked to resign, returns to Congress and receives a standing ovation from his party! No calls for his resignation or from the chair of the RNC. That to me is far worse than anything Weiner has done. Ditto Gingrich’s serial adultery, the so called party of family values and sanctity of marriage. Weiner never ran a campaign based on gay baiting, denying us rights, almost all republicans have and are. Breitbart never takes any of them on let alone makes any disparaging comments about them.
Eric Cantor now calls for Weiner’s resignation. When asked about Vitter et al, his response…”its a family matter, its up to his family”. Fucking hypocritical scumbags and so is Breitbart, their ass-licker!
No. 25, Sean….yes, I too think its odd that an alledged family values straight man would keep photos of a man’s penis on his phone, probably prurient interest too. No straight male in his right mind would do that.
no flies
It’s a shame the conversation goes to sex and titillation because the religious zealots are permitted to control the conversation. If you think there are more important things to discuss in the world which involves our survival as a species, then read more here and get the VOTE out.
http://www.thenoflieszone.com/2011/06/who-doesnt-have-secret.html
http://www.thenoflieszone.com/2011/05/blackness-homosexuality-and-balloons.html
B
No. 28 · The crustybastard, “It was not Weiner’s good sense that prevented him from lodging an official complaint with the authorities. Quite the contrary, it was his growing awareness that he’d be getting into even deeper shit.”
What I said was that Weiner obviously knew better than to file a false report with the police. It should not be necessary to point out that filing a false report with the police is a crime – that is common knowledge. I pointed it out as the explanation for his statement about using a private security firm, which sounded a bit odd.
Then you go off the deep end: “But if the purpose of your statement is to assert that making false criminal accusations is okay if you only make them in the media, I’d have to disagree.” Making a “false criminal accusation” to the press is not illegal and will not even result in a civil suit if the parties allegedly committing the crime are not in any way, shape, or form identifiable or even suggested. As to whether his “accusation” is “okay”, that would seem to be best left to his constituents, who can come to their own conclusions if he runs for another term. The press of course can make its own decisions as to whether to believe anything he says in the future.
But lets keep it all in perspective. A man living in a country still recovering from a Puritan heritage lied about sex. Why am I not surprised?
Oh, and then there’s the really important issue – why do people continue to create user interfaces that make it so easy to screw up? It’s like we never learn from experience.
hyhybt
@Matt_miami: It’s a story about a man showing off his penis. Of *course* a site with a mostly gay male readership is going to cover it.
Rbayse
@Matt_miami: OMG matt, you are such a Gay-a-phob! Do you really think it is your job to correct everyone that doesn’t agree with you. I have your posts on other threads. You written attitude is that of a spoiled child. And your words are only based on your own ideas and believes and have nothing to do with facts. You live in the past by wanting to remake the republican party to what it use to be in the Lincoln days. Those days are gone. MOVE ON!