I personally have never had sex with a woman. I’m more of what you call gold-star gay. I’m purebred. So I knew it wasn’t my thing, so I was like, Why do that? So I didn’t….In my circle of friends, it’s used. Like, ‘Andrew, he’s a purebred.’ Yeah.”
— Girls’ Andrew Rannells, revealing he’s never had relations with a woman toVulture. We’re totally stealing “purebred gay,” BTW.
Daniel-Reader
Good for him for not having sex with a woman under false pretenses. Nothing creepier than guys who know they are gay ruining some poor woman’s life by breeding her to hide from the responsibility of coming out and living an authentic life.
redcarpet
I know it shouldn’t matter, but this makes me like him even more.
Eric Auerbach
I’ve always been proud to be a purebred.
Dionte
I didn’t catch that, I thought I was the only one who thought about purebred gays and the
others. I haven’t made up a name for them yet, I’m working on it.
CaptainFabulous
Never thought of it that way, but hell yeah, I’m a purebred too. I’m quite confident I’ll go to the grave without ever having seen an adult vagina live and in person, and I’m A-OK with that.
BobBrown
@CaptainFabulous: I was 37 and was asked to help a caregiver with a problem they were having. I went into the room an saw an elderly woman spread eagle and of course completely nude. I think that I did a reasonably good job of hiding my shock. So I can’t say that I haven’t seen one in person but otherwise purebred describes me well.
CaptainFabulous
@BobBrown: Well I was about to get lunch but suddenly find myself not hungry anymore after that mental picture 😛
Where do y’all keep the mind bleach?
biguy
would love to read the bitching if an actor described himself as purebred straight.
Eric Auerbach
@biguy: A straight actor wouldn’t need to make such a claim in the first place — the assumption would be he would never sleep with a guy in the first place.
AEH
The words “purebred gay” made me think of the Westminster Kennel Club Dog show and now I’m picturing a bunch of gay men with their fag hags competing for Best in Show.
JDJase
@biguy: wouldn’t be any worse than your bitching about non-existent hypothetical bitching
dab822
purebred, and wear it proud. also chased by the cougars i work with
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Heyyyy! just walked in on some celebratory Kinsey sixer circle time!!! haha..congratulations you guys on your hard won..nvm..just keep right on slapping each others..um..backs. Wo0o0Ho0o0o!
biguy
It isn’t about the assumption being made, it is about the purity troll, litmus test attitude of people who are obsessed with having neat little categories for identities and orientations. It reminds me of Tom Hardy saying he’d fooled around with guys but then feeling the need to be explicit about not bottoming.
CaptainFabulous
@biguy: You could see it that way, but I take it completely differently; that despite all the societal pressure and expectations I stuck to my guns and was going to do what was right for me, not what society, religion, my parents, or my friends insisted was right. I was, and have always been, true to myself. And that’s not about defining a category for myself or an identity for myself, it’s asserting who I already am.
In my cause being true meant not having sex with women because I have absolutely no desire. But that’s just me. Other’s truths will obviously be their own.
Jamesblond
I really try hard not to chime on these things because the claws that come out can be scary. And bully for you if you never had sex with a woman. But I had a girlfriend for a while when I was in college who I am still friendly with, and let me tell you: the worst sex I’ve ever had was not with a woman. A) Sex with someone you care about is great. And B) with a girl, everything fits together nice and neat. You never feel like you’re trying to assemble a bicycle and you have the instructions upside down. So that’s one thing. The other thing is what is genuinely irritating. For you all to sit in judgment of those of us who are not “purebred,” and infer that we weren’t “true to ourselves” while you were…..it’s a little delusional. There are lots of ways of being authentic in life, lots of roads that take you where you are going. Don’t get me wrong: I think the ‘purebred’ term is funny and great. Puffing yourself full of pride so you can claim that you are somehow better, more “truly” gay than everyone else? Do it if you must, but just know that the mutts among us may think that the only kind of dog you are is a bitch.
CaptainFabulous
@Jamesblond: I don’t think anyone is trying to use to term to say they are better than anyone else.
Eric Auerbach
@Jamesblond: Heavens to Betsy. I just thought “purebred” was a cute term to describe a certain type of gay man.
balehead
make him morning goods already!
scallywag51
There is a implication in the term “purebred” that those of us who have been intimate with a woman or women, are not as pure or gay as you purebreds. I am of an age that first realizing I was not straight (and I consider myself a solid Kinsey 6 with no attraction to females whatsoever) I from the ages of 15 to 19 fucked as many girls as would let me in an attempt to fuck the gay out. In a more gay positive culture I would never have felt the pressure to prove to myself and my family that I wasn’t what I am….a gay man with no interest in the opposite sex. So although I have not been sexual with a female in over 30 years I may not be a “purebred” but I am no less gay than those who are. Many of us who are not purebred have been coerced by the hetero-normative society we live in to act in inauthentic ways with women.
biguy
It is cute if you’re into exclusionary status statements
AEH
Eh. I don’t get why people are defending the term. It just makes him sound like yet another vapid, shallow gay man who makes us look bad. As if the Jack McFarland without a heart stereotype wasn’t enough!
CaptainFabulous
@biguy: Like calling yourself biguy? Why not just guy? Why did you feel the need to label yourself and put yourself into a category? Do you think you’re somehow superior to the rest of us cause you can have sex with girls and boys, and had to make that prominently known by using it as your name?
Or am I maybe reading waaaaaaaaaaaay too much into it?
CaptainFabulous
@scallywag51: Man, you guys are so damned sensitive and take things so damned seriously. Lighten up. Why does everything need to ripped apart like vultures? Let it go. Not every single thing people say or do is an effrontery to you.
It’s getting to point that no one can say anything without someone getting offended. I swear sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
biguy
@CaptainFabulous: nice to see your authentic attitude towards more open orientations. Do continue about how “bi” is just like calling myself “gold-star” or “purebred” anything. In reality my orientation just makes it very difficult for me to find an understanding partner. Gay guys give me grief and women act like I’m going to give them HIV. What a privilege. You remind me of why it is prudent to be discreet about my orientation, us confused people need to know our place.
MMDD
Wow…a gay male celebrity who actually doesn’t talk about all the women he’s slept with? I think I’ve just become a fan of his.
MMDD
I’m not necessarily crazy about the terms “purebred” and “gold star,” but ultimately they aren’t really that far off from the word “pure,” which is sometimes used to describe someone who is a virgin.
Daniel-Reader
@biguy they probably give you grief because you bitch off-topic. You can call yourself a gold-star purebred bi guy if you have slept with guys and gals if that makes you feel more secure and less bitchy
@jamesblond if you are claiming to be gay, then based on what you wrote in your post you are one self-loathing piece of work
MK Ultra
People label themselves and others all the time. It’s human nature. A certain commentator would do well to go to christian sites and harass them about their “identity politics”. Oh that’s right. It’s only wrong when the LGBT community does it, right trollguy?
mike777
For all the LGBT references we hear and read, I’ve never met a “T”.
I know Ls, Gs and some Bs, but no Ts.
Everyone includes the T, but where are they?
MMDD
@mike777: I’ve met plenty “T’s.”
Caliban
You all DO get that it’s a joke, right?
Usually gay friends get around to asking each other if they ever slept with women. No one is REALLY saying that a gay man who has never had sex with a woman is more gay or a better gay. It’s just goofing around, so don’t take it so seriously.
Brian
At least half of the men I’ve met in gay bars are actually bisexual in their orientation or libido. They just call themselves gay so as to not threaten the gay identity.
As for Andrew Rannells, he can call himself whatever he wants. It’s his choice, just as it is his choice to appear in that piece of crap called Girls.
gaym50ish
I call them “7-Up Queers” (Never had it, never will). But I acknowledge that the label is becoming outdated — some of my friends are too young to remember the old ad slogan about 7-Up not having caffeine like cola drinks.
MMDD
@Brian: “At least half of the men I’ve met in gay bars are actually bisexual in their orientation or libido. They just call themselves gay so as to not threaten the gay identity.”
That’s not called “threatening the gay identity.” That’s called lying.
JDJase
@Caliban: Unfortunately, people like biguy don’t realize it’s a joke because they are desperate for something, anything to bitch and complain about.
Kaz
Wow really? Some of you guys think being ‘purebred’ is something special and something so high above the rest of us gays who have maybe been with a woman once or twice? The majority of my gay friends are “purebred’ and they all have money problems, no career, addiction problems, and can’t hold a relationship for more than a month! I slept with a girl once to try it out while figuring out my sexuality and realized ya, it wasn’t for me, and have since have been happily married with my husband for 4 years, stable career, no money problems, and loving life. So this notion that being purebred is so special is a load of BS and sounds just like something out of Hitler’s mouth…
Brian
MMDD,
Yes, there’s a lot of lying involved, I agree. However, don’t deny the prevalence of the “we must all be gay” orthodoxy that dominates the “gay scene”.
MMDD
@Brian: I don’t know about the “gay scene,” but in the more than 20 years I’ve been out, I’ve encountered very few people who deny the existence of bisexuality.
Niall
I remember reading this article on Towleroad where most people got it and had a laugh over the term, immediately, I thought “wonder what the reaction on queerty would be like” and then I came here, wasn’t disappointed as I knew there’d always be the people who’d take it seriously as usual.
Jamesblond
@Niall: How perfect it is that you came to Queerty to be snarky and cast aspersions on everyone else — you’ve found your true home.