"The Christian worldview is anchored in reality, whereas secularism does not respect reality’s constraints."

Um, isn't the Christian Worldview anchored in talking to invisible sky people, magical events that defy natural law, and preposterous rules & regulations governing cleanliness and behavior that were written by smelly nomads 2-3000 years ago?

If they weren't so dangerous, this would be funny. But please, can we stop respecting Religion and just call it out as the danger to humanity that it is, in all its forms?

The Christian worldview is anchored in reality…

Meaning no disrespect to Christians who aren't hateful bigots, but that statement is really debatable.

EMB you hit the nail on the head. I was about to comment on that same snippet. Anyway we are not asking to live in the belly of a whale, make wine from water, or part the red sea…..it is just civil rights people….a state issue which should have nothing to do with the church. Nina Simone said it best in Mississippi Goddamn "You don't have to live next to me, just give me my equality!"

haha

Wow. I had to share this. Had to.

The conservative group, American Society For…Tradition, Family, and Property mentioned above has a website, which I clicked through to + found a poll.

This is the poll question: What do you think about the California Supreme Court decision, forcing the legalization of same-sex “marriage?”

I decided to vote in favor of the legalization, just to screw with their poll. What I didn't expect is that the MAJORITY of those polled thus far voted the same way:

"It is a welcome step for human rights" - 50.9%

Ouch.

I screencapped the poll results as of about 1:30 P.M., EST:

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"2000 years of Christian morality" — including endless harrassment of the Jews, unprovoked invasion of Palestine, burnings of infidels at the stake, horrific torture, and condonement of slavery until it became unfashionable c. 1780. Spit!

My first thought is what, Jews, Muslems, Athiest don't/can't have a true marriage?

I guess reality is relative.

Unemployment, divorce, no health insurance, substance abuse, poor public schools, decaying cities - THOSE things threaten social stability. Not homos who want to get married. They STRENGTHEN social stability. Duh!

"The Christian worldview is anchored in reality, whereas secularism does not respect reality’s constraints."

that may be the funniest load of bullshit, I've ever seen.

well, with the possible exception Christopher Hitchens, doesn't everyone want your soul?

>It is a grave offense against God and undermines 2,000 years of Christian morality.

Um…who did it upset before that?

I'm really surprised that the TFP only focuses on homosexuality and hasn't embraced the bible's advocacy for slavery and stonings for crimes instead of prisons. There are many components in the bible that are conveniently ignored but suddenly homosexuality is a target - can it be because that is the only remaining group in the United States against whom discrimination is still legal?

The Republican Party, as so firmly supported by the Catholic church, must be so befuddled over the conflict from that civil war mistake abolishing American slavery when they now see they must be on the leading edge of fighting *for* discrimination against loving gay couples.

The other thing that confuses me is, given the claim that marriage is only for straight people to procreate, why do they allow the marriage of infertile couples. That is a puzzling conflict.