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Let Me Entertain You: How I Was Banned From Boylesque Because I Work In Porn

Harder

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“Oh my God, so excited for the NY Boylesque Festival!” A weird “smiley frown” clouded my face as I “liked” another excited Facebook post by a former student. All morning, friends, fellow performers, and past participants of my Boylesque 101 Class series had been excitedly tweeting and “social media-ing” about the 2014 NYC Boylesque Festival. If you’ve never heard of Boylesque, don’t worry, I’ll fill you in momentarily. Just know that this festival is a huge, fantastic celebration of male striptease and performance. Though I was happy for all these guys, I imagined my expression resembled one of those combo emoticons that can stand for feelings of confusion, or awkwardness, or irritability, all definitely not appropriate responses for the celebratory status updates I was reading. Instead, I settled for the go to “thumbs up” sticker and shut down my laptop, feeling confused and awkward but mostly just pissed off since this year I was officially banned from performing at the stripping festivities.

Hi there. I’m Chris “Go-Go” Harder: male burlesque dancer, porn “actor,” and in general, an all around clothes-less freelancer. I’ve worked in the NYC nightlife and burlesque communities for over four years and in 2013, I began my career in the blue movies as an adult film “star.” Isn’t it funny that porn is the one performance form where star status is immediately granted, even after just one scene? Truth be told, I’d be just as accepting of a more titillating title like “porn-stud” or the more blue collar “sex worker” when making my way through the realm of nightlife, because at the end of the day, whether on camera or onstage, I’ve ultimately thought of myself as an entertainer.

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Photo credit: RJ Sebastian

Unfortunately, not everyone shares that opinion. My on camera adventures are apparently just too hard to handle for the producer’s of the Boylesque Festival, and it was made clear to me that I was not welcome on either night’s stripping festivities, despite the fact that I had helped organize year one’s events and that a quarter of year two’s participants had all taken my Boylesque classes.

But you know what? I’m not here to start a smear campaign or play my poor-little-porn-star-violin. And even though I obviously disagree with the producers’ decision, as a fellow producer and event organizer myself, I recognize it’s not my place to tell someone how to cast his show. At the end of the day, I know my career won’t end because I wasn’t allowed into a festival, just as I’m honestly sure (and hope) that ticket sales for this year’s shows won’t drop because it’s “short a Harder.” Though I am genuinely upset that I can’t share the stage with my stripping brethren, I’m more concerned that this decision simply invites even more censorship and moralizing of a performance form with roots both equally glittery and gritty.

In my opinion, burlesque, porn and even sex work are much more deeply intertwined than many of today’s audiences and Dita-devoted starlets may realize. I’m thinking about the “classic” burlesque ladies who lived in an age where burlesque theaters were the only option instead of the alternative for a Stagg night out or a chance to see the stripping of cloth from skin and bare breasts under hot spot lights. And I’m reminded of burlesque legends now bragging at conventions and festivals about bagging JFK and of course the boys and men of Times Square and the golden days of the Adonis Theater or the Gaiety, where chaps and thongs were playfully peeled away and final reveals were sold to the highest bidder. Even Dita Von Teeze herself began her career in soft core porn films and fetish spreads.

selfieWhile I consider myself a staunchly “pro-sex” performer and think the blurring of these nightlife and sex worlds is wonderful (if not unavoidable), my transition into porn wasn’t guiltless. I wasn’t worried about what my friends or family or strangers viewing my porn would think. I mean I wanted them to buy it — the strangers, not my family — but I was more worried about how my peers in the Boylesque scene would respond. Would my former students and co-workers see me as selling out? Was I cheapening Boylesque or making it seem irrelevant? This isn’t a slam against my stripping, go-go-ing, and porn-ing brethren, but you have to understand that the Boylesque performers I work with put their heart and soul (and pay check) into their work. What’s the difference between strippers and boylesquers you may be wondering? Basically about a bag of rhinestones, a few jokes and a pay disparity much wider than the mandatory strip of fabric on the back end of a g-string. I worried that my entry into the adult scene might appear to some like an annulment of all that time, energy, and talent dedicated to the art of the tease. And what about those goddamned expensive rhinestones?!

tumblr_mvrvjjeKM01smg4x9o1_250I was having a porn/boylesque identity crisis! However, after a bit more reflection, I realized that my reasons for pursuing adult work very much mirrored my previous decision for burlesque: I wanted to, I felt like I’d be good at it and I also felt (and still do) that there’s the potential to explore and create adult content that has my own distinct, umm, mark. Call it my “Harder Hancock” if you will. Don’t get me wrong, “porn money” is definitely great but again, when all has been said and come, I consider myself an entertainer. Sometimes entertaining involves a break-away, bedazzled g-string and a gimmick, and sometimes it calls for a nice white pair of Calvins and a cum shot. I am simply a contributing member to the tribe of the unclothed. While I certainly want to meet and even exceed the bar of expectation for Boylesque shows — and yes, earn my porn star title — my style of performance is going to be just as uniquely different as the next guy. At the end of the shift when the confetti has been swept or the condom wrappers tossed, we all know the clothes are going to come off. It’s the story that makes it interesting.

On the nights of this year’s 2013 Boylesque Festival I will proudly stand in the audience supporting my peers and friends — I’m thinking a classy, black and white jock strap number, maybe a rhinestoned bow tie for good measure. I may be permanently benched, but that doesn’t mean I can’t celebrate a form that has brought me so much joy and success as well as introduced me to other adult circles and opportunities. Stage or no stage, I’m always Harder, and I’ll always find a way to entertain you.

UPDATE:

Boylesque producers read Harder’s article and offered a response to 21st Century Burlesque, alleging that Harder wasn’t “banned” from Boylesque because of his porn work, but due to a recently-ended relationship with Daniel Nardicio, one of the event’s producers. “This is between two guys who were lovers and one needing distance,” Nardici said.

Harder sent Queerty his reply to the producers’ statement:

While I would not back track on my words, in fairness to the producer’s of the New York Boylesque Festival, I do recognize that there were personal issues involved in the decision to not allow me to participate in this year’s 2014 Boylesque Festival. Specifically this: I was involved with producer Daniel Nardicio in a long term relationship which ended in June, 2012. While I would never imply that either producer is “anti-sex worker,” I do feel that my recent porn career was one of the main reasons for my exclusion from the festival apart from the fact that Nardicio and I were former lovers. This becomes even more apparent to me after taking into account that I was allowed to participate in the 2013 Boylesque Festival almost a full year after ending my relationship with Nardicio. I’m thus left with the conclusion that I am being “punished” for choosing to pursue my adult career, making the decision equally personal and well, “porn-y.” Again, I feel this “Boylesque benching” is hypocritical and unfair, but I also know it’s not my place to tell anyone how to cast an event. However, it is apparent to me that my sex work is definitely a huge deciding factor in their decision, relationship or no relationship.

My final thought: The Boylesque Festival is not the “Chris and Daniel Show.” And while unfortunately there is no doubt now a “coloring” to the event, ultimately the Boylesque Festival is and should be a celebration of male striptease, free from personal and professional grievances.

For more information on Harder, visit his (NSFW) blog.

By:           CHRIS HARDER
On:           Feb 24, 2014
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  • 50 Comments
    • ED49
      ED49

      This guy knew that making porno crosses the line in society. Very few can come back from it. You knew it , now confront the consequences.

      Feb 24, 2014 at 9:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJinAus
      JJinAus

      I don’t understand how people can consume porn and then look down on those who make it. Seems a lot of humbug to me.

      Feb 24, 2014 at 9:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @ED49: WTF is your point? So he is not allowed to express how he feels about it? Why?

      Feb 24, 2014 at 9:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • crowebobby
      crowebobby

      Male strippers and their audience are “society”? Why do today’s queens make the DAR seem like a bunch of liberals?

      Feb 24, 2014 at 10:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveDenver
      SteveDenver

      I can understand a ballet academy rescinding a student’s scholarship because of porn. I can understand a private high school firing a coach because of porn. But burlesque? That’s remarkably stupid of the producers, who are involved in soft core flesh peddling while trying to appear above it all.

      Feb 24, 2014 at 10:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveDenver
      SteveDenver

      @crowebobby: Bravo!

      Feb 24, 2014 at 10:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • balehead
      balehead

      So what he did porn?….typical gay self hate to watch it and then denounce it…the real enemy of LGBT rights can be some of the gays too….

      Feb 24, 2014 at 10:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Fitz
      Fitz

      It’s a fascinating process that we project our fantasies and jerk off to pictures of someone that we think of as less-than for having brought us those images.

      Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SpunkyBunks
      SpunkyBunks

      Who doesn’t watch porn? America sucks with its hypocritical behavior. See all the red states for example.

      Feb 24, 2014 at 11:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @balehead: Wow I actually agree with you about something. Hmm.

      Feb 24, 2014 at 11:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • litper
      litper

      Porn is just a job. It’s disgusting when porn actors are discriminated against, especially by LGBT community!

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Vidontag
      Vidontag

      Sorry to hear it. I’ve always enjoyed reading about Mr. Harder’s antics.

      @ED49: Promise me to do two things: 1. Google “boylesque”. 2. Get out a bit more.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Respect4all
      Respect4all

      So the producers of a gay male strip show think its reputation will be sullied by the inclusion of a porn actor in the show? If anything, I’d think that including him would attract more interest. I don’t get it. The more that gay people become like straight people, the less appealing they become. I’ve never heard of this guy before, but I’m certainly gonna look out for him now.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveDenver
      SteveDenver

      @Respect4all: You lay out the situation so clearly. It just sounds like a bunch of bitches being assholes to a guy, covering up their real issues: he likes Black dick, he’s young and hot, he wouldn’t sleep with them. Who knows what the real issues are.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 1:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Garbo1228
      Garbo1228

      I wouldn’t book him for the Boylesque Festival either. Two major reasons why:

      First, despite Harder’s assertion that burlesque and pornography are intertwined, it’s a surface level comparison at best. Burlesque is caricature by definition: Of societal mores, of popular culture, of the human body. It can be funny, it can be weird, or it can be sexy. It can be any number of things, but it’s always more than just a strip show. A great burlesque artist entices the audience with the way he or she keeps their clothes on.

      Pornography, on the other hand, has a much more limited scope. At least the pornography Harder is doing. Its main goal is to arouse the audience to eventual sexual release. It requires little skill on the part of participants beyond a pleasing body, face, and penis. The actors in porn represent and enact our most base desires. The audience only gets to see them as physical objects, so it’s no wonder that the general public continues to regard pornographic performers with disdain.

      Second, while I’ll buy that some burlesque dancers back in the day made money on the side by selling themselves after the show, that is very different from appearing in a series of videos on the Internet that will last forever. The evidence is right there for anyone to see. It follows you for the rest of your life. It’s not just some story you tell at a party. It’s a product. It’s available for $20 a month with just a few clicks.

      Anyone who thinks their higher purpose for doing pornography will eclipse the negative associations of having sex for money on camera is kidding themselves.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 1:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bbg372
      bbg372

      @Garbo1228: More to the point, neo-burlesque performers have been working to distance burlesque from pornography so that it will be viewed as a legitimate art form. That more than anything is likely why the producers do not allow porn performers to participate.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 1:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stefano
      Stefano

      @Garbo1228 : Good points.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 7:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieru
      Kieru

      I think @bbg372 makes the best point here. Burlesque performers continue to have to separate themselves from their false-connection to the porn industry. Clearly Harder has a passion for both; but he seems to be ignoring the obvious.

      They don’t want to blur the lines they are trying to make distinct, by inviting someone who is now directly associated with pornography. That makes their work more difficult.

      Harder probably knows this; but is willfully ignoring it because well… he wants to be both. Until Burlesque is free of the porn-by-association stain though, I doubt that will happen.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 9:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sportyguy1983
      sportyguy1983

      There are consequences to all the actions we take. The consequence to him doing porn in this case is that there are people that don’t want to associate their organization/event with him. It is their prerogative to do that (no matter how silly it may sound to some). Being a porn star is not a protected class like race, gender, disability, religious belief, nationality, or sexuality, nor should it be a protected class. He is an embarrassment for complaining about his poor choices in life (choices that he should be allowed to make).

      Feb 25, 2014 at 9:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • QJ201
      QJ201

      Perhaps the producers of Boylesque felt they didn’t need Mr. GoGo Harder stealing the spotlight from their event? Perhaps Mr. GoGo is yet just another self promoting fame seeker that they can’t be bothered with?
      Or mayber Mr. GoGo is just an arrogant asshole?

      There is always more to the story.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 9:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jen Gapay
      Jen Gapay

      As the co-producer of The New York Boylesque Festival, I can honestly say that the festival and its producers are supportive of sex workers and work with them on a regular basis.

      The decision to not have Chris Harder perform in this festival is a personal one based on the personal relationship between co-producer Daniel Nardicio and Chris.
      Chris and Daniel were boyfriends and lived together for over 2 years.
      Obviously this is a matter of the heart and not about the festivals stance on the porn industry.

      As far as past festivals, Chris did not help organize the 1st Annual Boylesque Festival, he taught a class in conjunct with the festival, and made all the money that was generated from that class and,
      yes there were performers that participated in the 2013 festival that had taken classes from Chris, but certainly not a quarter of the festivals performers as he claims.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 9:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • balehead
      balehead

      The need to control/humiliate/bully hawt guys has always part of today’s gay activism….

      Feb 25, 2014 at 10:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dev.C
      Dev.C

      Regardless of the Producer’s reason for ousting Harder, I think it’s mind blowing how self righteous people can be about gay porn performers. As an artist I can’t find fault in someone using their sexuality as their art form ( which Chris stated he does in this article). Performers Like Francois Sagat and Harry Louis found the silver lining in their careers and have come out of the industry happy and fulfilled.
      They still get plenty of hate from people who only want to see porn actors as a piece of meat to consume.
      Acceptance/pride for our sexuality is one of the hardest things our community has to overcome. We are raised in gay shame and accept it as adults, while heterosexuals exploit there sexuality in front of us all day everyday.

      Unlike gay porn performers who get into industry for money solely and to mask their own hidden sexual desires, Chris Harder knows who he is and what he is doing, it’s stupid to exiles someone because you can’t look pass your own prejudice.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 11:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sportyguy1983
      sportyguy1983

      Sorry, but if you actively put yourself out their in public and seek public attention/fame, don’t go complaining when people criticize you (justly or unjustly). Criticism/hatred is all part of the deal. If you can’t stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 11:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • twigg
      twigg

      i don’t understand why neo-burlesque would need to distance itself from porn, both art forms are “caricature, funny, weird, and sexy” as one commenter expressed it .

      i’ve easily been to hundreds of burlesque shows and a great many performer male and female has ended their number with full frontal nudity to the delight of the audience, both art forms are a celebration of sexuality .

      i’m not sure if it makes any more sense to disqualify someone from a festival because they use to date a producer, go-go harder is a pillar in the boylesque community and one of the best performers in new york city .

      Feb 25, 2014 at 11:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Jen Gapay: said…

      “The decision to not have Chris Harder perform in this festival is a personal one based on the personal relationship between co-producer Daniel Nardicio and Chris.
      Chris and Daniel were boyfriends and lived together for over 2 years.
      Obviously this is a matter of the heart and not about the festivals stance on the porn industry.

      _______________

      You may want to be careful when you put up in a post that somebody not being hired had nothing to do with their talent or skill but rather was because of a personal relationship with the boss.

      You basically just threw the co-producer under a legal bus.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • viveutvivas
      viveutvivas

      @Dev.C, “Unlike gay porn performers who get into industry for money solely and to mask their own hidden sexual desires, Chris Harder knows who he is and what he is doing, …”

      I don’t see what is so wrong with doing porn out of need for money, and what makes a relatively privileged guy who does porn for art better than a guy who does it out of limited options.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Respect4all
      Respect4all

      @Garbo1228: @bbg372: @Kieru: Oh, please. A bunch of horny guys go to a theater to watch some hot, young boys shake their asses and take off their clothes. There’s some music and maybe a little artistry, but this isn’t “Hamlet”, “Aida” or “Swan Lake”. It’s a strip show. And regardless, why is it anyone’s business what you’re doing in your free time or another job, anyway?@sportyguy1983: He made absolutely no claim that this is any kind of illegal discrimination, so your rhetoric about “protected classes” is irrelevant. He even affirms the right of the producers to make their decision about how to run the show. He is merely saying that he feels he was treated unfairly and (made I’m reading my own bias in to this) that the Boylesque producers are opportunists and hypocrites. I completely agree.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Respect4all
      Respect4all

      Sorry, should read: “…(maybe I’m reading my own bias into this)…”

      Feb 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • katbox80
      katbox80

      If only he hadn’t gotten all those hideous tattoos.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 1:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      He looks a bit like Ethan Hawk from the movie Gattaca.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 2:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lucky Charming
      Lucky Charming

      I am a burlesque performer, and I have never heard anything of these performers trying to distance themselves from porn. In my experience, the entire burlesque community is supportive of sex work of all kinds. Many of which partake in it, but rarely in front of the camera. I’m seeing a lot of folks speaking on behalf of the burlesque community that know nothing about what goes on between us, and this needs to stop.

      Some folks are saying that Harder should expect to be banned from things for being involved in adult films. Yes, when one goes into porn, it’s safe to say there are plenty of industries that will not welcome them. But continuing to shame them for the choices they make is not going to solve the problem. And yes, it IS a problem. And the last people who should exclude a performer for a porn past are burlesque producers. I’m not saying that’s what happened. If it did, though, it would be truly shameful. Very few can make a living on burlesque alone, so we all have to find other ways of making a living. Harder chose porn as one of those skills. Big whoop. Who’s he hurting by showing his dick on film? Absolutely no one.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 2:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • balehead
      balehead

      Respect4all nailed it…this isn’t Shakespeare you know…

      Feb 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dev.C
      Dev.C

      @viveutvivas:

      it’s bad to judge and discriminate anyone for their personal career choices if they are not harming anyone.
      Where I am coming from is that I respect someone who does gay porn for the reason of sexual/artistic expression rather than someone who is choosing to do something they rather not in order to make quick cash. You can see the difference in a performer who loves what they do versus on who wishes they had other options.

      I respect people who make money doing something they love.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 3:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MadMikenCT
      MadMikenCT

      I mean seriously…do we care? Is this news? I read the story, went to his personal site. Seems like he lives a pretty exciting life. Does he REALLY feel discriminated against? Move to Uganda.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 3:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JLTCEE
      JLTCEE

      He should be allowed to perform.@SteveDenver:

      Feb 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ogre Magi
      Ogre Magi

      Why is the gay community so stuck up and up tight about porn

      Feb 25, 2014 at 4:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Geeker
      Geeker

      Why do pornstars always talk about their work in porn as if it’s something deep and meaningful or artistic?You’re hot and you like other people to see you naked and screwing,end of story.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 4:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bbg372
      bbg372

      @twigg: Burlesque is satire. Pornography is mere titillation. Pornography is not art and porn performers are not artists. They are people who exchange sex for money. That they do this in front of a camera does not make it anything more than that.

      @Respect4all: Many burlesque performances are Vaudeville routines that feature little or no nudity. Those who attend a burlesque performance expecting the experience of a strip club will be sorely disappointed.

      @Lucky Charming: You are not the elected spokesperson for the burlesque community, nor do you know if any of the members participating in the comments are burlesque performers themselves. You and others you know may be supportive of or participate in sex work, but you do not speak for the trained acrobats, clowns, contortionists, dancers, gymnasts and others who do not care for their craft being associated with sex work.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 5:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rubinartstudio
      rubinartstudio

      We miss you at the Winery Chris!!!

      Feb 25, 2014 at 6:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @Jen Gapay: If this is true its even MORE outrageous than the reason Chris gave. SHAME ON YOU AND THE OTHER CO PRODUCER. I am absolutely DISGUSTED if this is the case.

      Feb 25, 2014 at 9:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Respect4all
      Respect4all

      @bbg372: Lucky Charming doesn’t speak FOR the burlesque community, but he(?) is the only one speaking FROM the burlesque community, which means he’s the only one who knows what he’s talking about. And frankly his comments make the most sense.

      Feb 26, 2014 at 12:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bbg372
      bbg372

      @Respect4all: You do not know that he is the only person participating in the comments that is a burlesque performer anymore than does he.

      Feb 26, 2014 at 1:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ttrotski
      Ttrotski

      What kind of journalistic publication presents a lover’s spat, out dated though well written as news worthy? Oh! Perhaps one that is receiving advertizing revenue from “Boylesque”?!?!

      Feb 26, 2014 at 5:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • twigg
      twigg

      @bbg372 i don’t think it’s all that black and white, i’ve seen burlesque numbers that were simply titillating and not satirical and i’ve seen porn that is intentionally laugh-out-loud funny .

      admittedly there is a greater emphasis on costuming and humour in burlesque but i don’t think it’s fair to dismiss porn as completely devoid of art, any medium can be approached artistically .

      i checked out the highlight reel on nyboylesquefestival.com which was mainly performers bumping and grinding in a g-string, this is all well and good as far as i’m concerned but it probably wouldn’t run on the christian broadcasting network .

      Feb 26, 2014 at 8:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • viveutvivas
      viveutvivas

      @Dev.C, not everyone has the opportunities and privileges in life to end up doing what they love. We have to also respect people who flip burgers or clean toilets out of need, and the same goes for sex work.

      Feb 26, 2014 at 10:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Respect4all
      Respect4all

      @viveutvivas: Why do you assume that sex workers aren’t doing what they love? Getting paid to fuck sounds a lot more enjoyable to me than flipping burgers, and it’s a hell of a lot more lucrative.

      Feb 26, 2014 at 1:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • viveutvivas
      viveutvivas

      @Respect4all, I wasn’t making any assumptions, I was just referring to Dev.C. who said he didn’t much respect people who do porn and don’t love what they do. I agree with him, though, that there are porn performers who quite obviously don’t like what they do.

      Feb 26, 2014 at 1:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Respect4all
      Respect4all

      @Dev.C: What world do you live in? The vast majority of people work because they need to pay rent, eat, get medical care and take care of their families, not because they LOVE what they do. Are you saying that you have more respect for someone who loves being a movie star than for the person who cleans the movie star’s home because they need to earn a living? Sorry, but that’s just STUPID!

      Feb 27, 2014 at 11:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • nineinchnail
      nineinchnail

      He is bloody cute!!!

      Feb 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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