
So there's a (non-new?) rumor going around that Michael Jackson was a big 'mo. It's coming from the mouth — or rather, the book — of Ian Halperin, the same man who claims Tom Cruise is gay, which sort of pissed off Scientologists. (Also: John Travolta.) But calling Jackson gay is like calling Lance Bass an astronaut: It works in theory, but there's no proof.
Through what we're assuming is steadfast research, Halperin cites as evidence of Jackson's sexuality a claim that he picked up a male construction worker in Las Vegas and forced him to sign a confidentiality agreement so they could do the nasty. (Another version of that story claims the guy Jackson spotted across a Vegas casino floor became head of Jackson's security detail, not his lover.)
Then there are Halperin's claims Jackson liked to dress up as a woman, which isn't so much a secret as it is a description of Jackson's entire wardrobe. Also: Jackson wearing women's clothing is common knowledge. Besides, dressing up as a lady doesn't make the superstar gay; it makes him transgender. Or just curious.

Allegations like these help sell books. Which is why Halperin wants to do with his new tome Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson. So it shouldn't be a surprise that another person with an interest in selling manuscripts is on hand to shoot down these rumors. She is Diane Dimond, who's devoted much of her career (15+ years) to chronicling Jackson. She chimes in: "Over all the years that I have been looking into his life, I have found no evidence that Michael Jackson was gay. I have never spoken to any men who have claimed and proven they were Michael's lovers."
Which leaves us with this: For as long as we've known of this Michael Jackson person, he's always struck us as asexual. Someone who neither longs for sexual affection from women nor men.
From his post-pubescent disinterest in sex (see: Brooke Shields) and his faux-real marriages (see: Lisa Marie Presley) to his awkwardness discussing sex in front of the camera (see: Martin Bashir) and his means of having children (see: sperm donation and surrogate mother), Jackson never clued us in that he was straight or gay.
He really just existed in this bubble of childhood, where penises and vaginas were punchlines, not objects of hormonal desire. And if we need to get in to the whole child molestation thing — because a post like this one can't ignore it — the same common wisdom holds true: An adult man sleeping in bed with young children who are not his own is … inappropriate. But the idea that he touched them is flabbergasting, not just because it would mean the world's greatest entertainer is a pedophile, but because it would mean Michael Jackson had any interest in sex at all.
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I have to agree. I even think all the on-stage crotch grabbing was just part of the show too. I really never saw anything sexual about it. Even though he did it constantly, in virtually every dance, it was more like a man just tapping on his knee or something. And as we came to expect it and cheered him on for it, he just did it more. He really did seem to live in this "I'm still a little kid" bubble in his head.
Wouldn't a confidentiality agreement be invalid upon the death of one of the signatories? So let's have it! Should be worth a fortune so if it doesn't surface, then it must be a lie….well, assuming the other guy got a copy.
If it existed, it would be out there already. Look at Ted Haggard! The minute that other guy found out who he was, he ran straight to the media. 1000x more likely to happen if it were Michael Jackson. Yet, silence.
i luved his music !! i think he is a great singer!! im going to miss him a lot!!
You have to remember Michael Jackson entered adulthood in the 80s at the onset of the AIDS epidemic. Gay men were scared by it. Some forced themselves not to have sex with men. Michael was living in Los Angelos at the time the news broke in 1981. Michael was the last one in his family to get married by many years. He was the second youngest and the most successful Jackson. I think he tried to ease the tension of his success with his older brothers by pretending to be young and delicate, it was a way to maintain the social order of the family. Michael lived with his family well into his 20s. I think his convoluted sexuality among other things (plastic surgeries, surogate mothers, idolization of old Hollywood actresses, involvement in many charities, thinness etc) points to him being gay.
There are also the rumors that, among other things, the "abuse" that Michael Jackson suffered from his father was castration. That is, after all, the best way to ensure that his money maker voice didn't drop when he hit puberty. Also could explain why he used (needed??) a sperm donor. It's uncertain whether one would even have a sex drive sans the nads.
I think Michael Jackson was gay. I don't think he liked men, however.
Michael Jackson was an amazing talent, one that will take years to see another one like him, as for his sexuality, I think he was way too mentally ill with such self hate and loathing, that when it came to sexuality to be of any persuasion as he could never relate to anyone on a sexual level. At best he really was asexual.
MJJ was the perfect example of what a sexually repressed society can do to a person, promiscuous brothers from almost all accounts when they were teens on one hand and a Jehovah's Witness mother on the other saying the exact opposite, two dueling sides to an already mixed up kid and out comes Jackson.
I don't think 'The Gays' really want a pedophile like Michael Jackson to be considered 'one of us.'
Nope. Sorry. Can't buy the MJ = gay conspiracy theory. One shall take whatever Ian Halperin ("Canadian investigative journalist," per Wiki, with nine unauthorized celeb bios under his belt, and some lawsuits, too!) pushes in a book serendipitously (!) released TWO WEEKS after MJ's death, with a ton or three of salt.
My roommate is an MFT, ie, certified shrink. We discussed the issue of MJ and her expert conclusion was: Individual severely damaged by childhood trauma. Retreats into asexual make-believe universe during adulthood, an emotional space that pivots on the one area that he considers "safe" and "non-grown-up": seeking, and providing, affection and to children. The li'l ones don't judge you like the adults do.
If you poll shrinks, as opposed to screechy, hyperbole-happy media "commentators," you will get the same evaluation time and again. This dude was not a pedophile. He was a stunted individual, in psych-terms. Innocent, objectively, but oh-so-guilty to the world at large..
All the talk about why the supposed former male lovers of Jackson never came forward? I don't think that after MJ's death, anything could have prevented them from coming forward, and to answer as to why they haven't already surfaced? We don't know that they haven't surfaced. I'm sure that these guys, 1 or 2 or more would FIRST approach the family with demands of money, since the family would be in a position to pay out far greater sums of money than they could ever get from any tabloid or book deal. I'm sure that if these men are out there, the reason they haven't come forward is because Jackson's family is making sure they are WELL taken care of to protect MJ's reputation among his friends and co-workers in the entertainment business. I don't think Al Sharpton would be saying all the "good" things he has been saying about MJ if it were proven he had been gay all along.
I slept with Michael Jackson. He's a Junkie!
But he denied being gay, surley that's all the proof people need. If someone says they are not gay, untill they are proven to be gay, they should be hailed as straight.
There was also no evidence his marriage to Lisa was fake, accorind to her he was a passionate lover.
As far as i'm concerned it's none of out buinssnes anyway.
if he was gay, straight or asexual, he didn't wish to discuss it, which is understandable, i'm sick of celebrities telling us about their sex lives.
Oh no she (queerty) didn't!
Some people are just so dumb they will believe anything michael was not gay and i know thet for a fact ian i hope you enjoy this little attention your getting b/c the repercusions of your disgusting actions are going to come back and bite you in the behind hard so get ready.
okay I would love for someone to message back….I don't get it
I watched Dirty Diana and In the closet they are very sexual video's…and then I saw a video of him having a food fight…
it's like he was two totally different people…hot, sexy, sexual
guy on stage and video and then a grown man acting like a child..
But if a man can sing and dance to a song like In the closet then
he knew what sex was and was probably wanting it or having it..
anyone else agree????
wow, this is possibly one of the only even handed articles on queerty. certainly the only one i've read since i mostly switched to another blog. but yeah, he was probably Asexual like… Paula Poundstone or something, just no interest, which in the 80s was the detriment of every teen, but still.
I believe Michael Jackson was castrated by his father in order to keep his voice a high-pitched money machine, and many people are certain that this is the case.
There's an in-depth examination of the theory that MJ was castrated here:
http://www.itwaslost.org/2007/.....ckson.html
@hephaestion:
So you're crazy.
@christophe: Rev. Al Sharpton is very pro-gay. His sister is gay.
Mj said several times that he heard his brothers having sex wile sleeping in the same room on tour so he was traumatized when it comes to sex, all those noises he could not understand what was going on, if it is live why does it hurt so much?
I have seen several interviews where MJ says he was a reclused, isolated person because where ever he went people would follow him, in bad video interview he said he had no friends other then Diana Ross, so that tells a lot about a adolescente who did not have the experiences to become a man, and must have felt ashamed or afaraid about going to experience all those things in the public eye so he resorted to money in order to get the things he wanted, and to not growing up in order to not face adult women.
It was easy for him to be around Diana Ross, Liza Minelli and Elizabeth Taylor because he did not have his sexuality put to trail, the way young would jump on him, nor would children look at him sexualy, he was in a confort zone.
MJ must have tried during his youngest with Tatum O'Neal, and Brooke Shield to become a man, but it did not work and time pass by he gave up, and paid for having children. Brooke said the more he grow up the more asexual he looked to me, so the man repressed the sex part, and exploded on other disturbing practises like surgery. He could not face adult women for sex, to many disguisting nenories.
MJ had a double personality, the stage persona and the Peter Pan.
okay so if he was "scared" of sex b/c of his brothers conquest
etc…then why was HE so sexual on stage but not off….I mean
he looked sometimes like he was actually doing it…In the dance I mean…I still don't think he was asexual b/c if you dance in that way (he didn't have to) then he wanted it or like said was
having it…
right?? does anyone get what I'm saying
@emily:
I completely understand where you are coming from, but that doesn't mean he personally enjoyed sex..It just means he understood that sex sells..He was a child at home, but he had to play adult onstage…right?
I see what you are saying….
He didn't have to do the videos he could have had someone else
do it..I don't know I think he was super super shy but a sexual
man. I just don't see him not having sex (asexual) and he also
had to write the songs so he was thinking of a man or women…
he could have wrote about birds or donkeys instead of women.
RIGHT?? He is super interesting can't help it
One more point…I read that Lisa marie said that they did have sex
and it was great etc….so do you think she was lying? she didn't
have to say anything.
@emily:
Yes. I think she was lying.
@TANK:
Loving your superior attitude.
Wasn't this story on http://www.planethomo.com/ a week ago?
I really beleive that some of you don't know what your talking about….In the 80's michael was a young man not a teenager or a young child. You may be trying to defend him or insult his family by the negative… But, you must remembere that YOU have to keep liv'n Michael has passed and not matter what he MAY HAVE DONE, you better watch the words that come out of your mouths for GOD JEHOVAH or whatever HIS NAME IS TO YOU… he will see YOU on your judgement day, and the last time I checked you cannot condem your brother or your sister….Watch Out!
Phyllis honey you need to calm down…this is a discussion about
Micheal so people are going to have an opinion. the topic
seems to be about sex….You should know you clicked on it!
No need to bring god in this!
Honey, if you don't know the eyeliner wearing, lipstick wearing, Diana Ross wannabe isn't gay, then I got a bridge to Brooklyn to sell you (cheap!) Oh yeah, he walked, talked, and looked like a girl, but he loves the pussy? Umm, trade in your gaydar now please. He used to dress as a woman and meet construction guys in Vegas for sex at cheap motels.
http://finance.36502.com.cn/Ne...../4994.html
which one is the girl?
I dunno which one's funnier? That I'm actually amazed I read this or that we're discussing about a dead man's sexuality and his sex life?
Anyway, I think this fact is blurry…as to whether he's gay…but….I am not rushing to buy that 'book' to find out…
For all I care, he could be gay or bisexual…either way its his "in the closet"…I don't think he's gonna raise from the grave to clarify that for us now, would he?
Whatever it is I enjoyed reading this…
"…Lance Bass is an astronaut…" haha
For someone who is said to be asexual, Mike sure does like his porn. Remember at the Neverland raid, they found stacks of pornographic magazines and DVDs in his bedroom. I don't remember if it was straight or gay porn, but they found his fingerprints all over it. So I don't think an asexual dude would have loads of porn. I think maybe he was just painfully shy in that area.
@Jim: Gay or not? Doesn't matter! But the whole pedophile thing was an out and out lie, so please stop!!
One can't deny that Jackson played up his heterosexual credentials in his songs. He sang the lyric "girl" and "she" a lot. Probably was the result of record company executive anxiety. "Sing about girls, Michael" was probably the refrain from these silly executives.
good point about the porn….I had forgotten about that.
defiantly not asexual…it will all come out with time.
I think he was asexual….typical of entertainers who exhibit sexual behavior on stage while performing…plus it sounds like he never really grew up…
makes sense to me….
and does it really matter what his sexual prefrence was? I mean the man was harrassed by the media his whole life.
Constant crap like; 'is he gay',is he a wack job','is he a pedophile', 'does he sleep in a oxygen chamber?' Knowing any of this does not enhance my life one way or the other. (I would however be angered / sad if the pedophile thing was true) I have been an MJ & Jackson 5 fan since my childhood.
He's gone and still people want to crucify him– enough already!! Just try to remember the good that he did for others less fortunate. Geeez- To many people have a sick morbid fasination with celebrities and their personal lives.
the makes sense to me was replying to the comment made by # 10 in the stream above–read #10 gimme LOLcats explanation….
The porn found during the Neverland raid was all straight porn – stuff like Hustler Mag., Naughty Neighbors etc.
Whether MJ was bi or straight I don't know. What I do know is that he was NOT asexual. An asexual man does not have straight porn mags in his room…He was obviously repressed, but still a man. Lisa Marie has said over and over that they had sex-the marriage was consummated etc… If anything it would have benefited her more to say-no they didn't when he was going through the molestation trial. Listen to her To Whom It May Concern Album. She has stated that several of the songs on that album are about Jackson and the pain of when they broke up. The marriage was real. Those are some pretty angry songs….you don't feel that kinda anger for a "fake" marriage. That coupled w/her myspace blog….I really think LMP might have been the most real relationship MJ ever had…male or female.
Emily, I am totally with you. I've been saying for years that there is NO WAY a man so f'n sexual onstage can be asexual offstage.
Now, that doesn't mean he was sexually active. I mean, with all the childhood abuse, PLUS the uber-religious teachings he grew up with, PLUS the scary crazed fans who used to tear him to shreds before he reached puberty, PLUS his feelings of never knowing who to trust … no wonder he was such a mess in the sexual arena.
BUT — that doesn't mean he was asexual. I'm sure he had his turn-ons – whether they were gay, straight or otherwise: SOMETHINF was turning him on enough to channel his sexual energy into insane dance moves.
The man may have had issues with repressed sexuality, but he was no asexual. I'd bet anything.
err, clearly, "SOMETHINF" is a typo. I'll let you clever readers figure it out! ;)
I'LL TELL YOU!
HE F@#KED HIS MUSIC.
AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO F@#K HIM! MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN & ANIMALS.PERIOD!!!!!!
For many years I have believed that Michael Jackson was an asexual but good and amazingly talented man who was pressured by music execs to adopt a sexual persona onstage. I still think this is true and in fact the more I read the more I believe it
thanks nonny!!
Funny Swe never thought about putting it that way….he f@#k
his music that is great…
yea I have to admit maybe I really want to know b/c he is a turn
on…especially in his videos. does make you want him bad and
also you want to mother him and undo all the shit he had to
go through.
He is a huge turn on! Damn it have you seen those suggestive moves of his! His finger is all that it takes! and more than that he was an amazingly compassionate gentleman and incredibly talented and naively innocent and humorous prankster in a childlike way. MEN like the Moonwalker grace this Earth once in a blue moon or should I say he is one of a kind!
Was the porn for Michael or was it for company?
What's with the "insult his family, constant crap and crucify him" by mentioning Michael Jackson and gay in the same paragraph.
Some people here don't like the gays at all, I think.
But thanks for dropping by.
Every time I've waded into an MJ discussion, I've emerged wishing that I hadn't said anything. But I am friends with (and a former roommate of) the guy who ran Michael Jackson's amusement park. He told me–long before it ever hit the press–about Lisa Marie, and the fact that Michael was dating her. They were apparently romantic for a long time before any press was ever clued in.
It was something like three months before I ever saw anything in the news about Lisa Marie. So, I am fairly certain that the relationship was real, or at least had more to it than the "faux marriage" that many people like to claim. I can't imagine why my friend would have told me about it months before People and Us Weekly ever had it on their radar otherwise.
I'm gay myself, and wondered (before I had an "in") if Michael was gay. And who knows, maybe he was? Many of us tried to go straight, right? But I do know that the MJ-Lisa Marie relationship was more than just a staged-for-the-cameras spectacle.
@emily: I understand what you are saying but artist tend to portray to the world what they want to portray. Who a person is onstage can be COMPLETELY different than who they are when they cameras stop rolling. So to say that he was sexual and thought about wanting to have sex because of the state and emotion of his songs would be inaccurate. Its artistry at its best.
@emily: Emily you really need to read his book Moonwalk. That would explain a lot of your questions you have about him. And also, why would he have someone else do HIS videos? Because he would have been afraid of expressing his sexuality? That makes no sense at all. You have to understand that just because a person is a certain way in front of the camera doesn't make them that way 100% of the time.
If you read his book you would come to understand that sometimes there were no motivations needed to write a song. He would write a song without thinking of any special man or woman…it would just come to him. He's been in the industry for YEARS to be able to write a song about OTHER people's experiences…not just his. Dirty Diana, for instance, was a written about groupies. His experiences with them and his brothers. Please read his book! lol
Everything isn't all black and white when it comes to him. His talent and motivations for his written work and videos supersedes anything you might think. :-)
I don't think he was gay. I think he was transgender and if he had the "balls" he would have changed to Michelle a long time ago but he did not because he did not want to disappoint his mom.
I have been a fan of his since the beginning and I am not bashing him in anyway. I don't think he was comfortable in his own skin and had he been a "normal" person not a superstar he would have transitioned and been happy.
Thanks for the inside info, Jamie In Las Vegas! Michael and Lisa Marie did say in some interview (Diane Sawyer?) that they were dating 3 or 4 months before the press caught on. Yeah, I've always believed LMP when she said they had an active, normal sex life.
It's funny, despite Michael's soft, vulnerable, feminine vibe, he never pinged my gaydar, lol. He always seemed like a full-on heterosexual who was terrified of adult sex with real women. Somehow, LMP broke through that… at least for a little while.
Chris, interesting about the transgender thing. In the last years, when he started to look and dress more like a woman, I started wondering if all his surgeries were his attempt at becoming female without ACTUALLY going through the sex-reassignment surgery. He was such a complex person, I'm sure we'll never know any of these things.
And to those who say that his onstage persona had nothing whatsoever to do with who he was in real life, I say – no way. Artists create from the inside. His dancing would have seemed forced and wooden if he was merely doing what record execs told him to do. I truly believe that Michael was a very sexual man who (for whatever reason) was frightened and repressed, and channeled his immense sexual energy into his performing. Which is why he turned us all on in his videos and live shows.
Nonny…well said.
Ccede…thanks I will have to get the book.
Okay I think that Micheal only dressed and looked the way he did
b/c of his father's negative comments…I read somewhere that
he called him "big Nose" and made fun of him b/c of his pimples. (what an ass) So it took a toll and he
did whatever to make himself feel attractive…Makeup and plastic
surgery. I can see that b/c when I was younger someone told me
wow you have a hot body but an average face, too bad!!! I have
held on to that forever and I think I'm ugly. so if you constantly hear it enough and if it comes from someone you love…I can totally see why he looked the way he did. I still thought he was attractive from Thriller to In the closet etc….
Whoever is interested check out this clip!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0pevvG-kU
Its making of stranger in Moscow! He wasn't aware the camera was on him so was probably behaving himself!(flirty) there is another video of his
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ-bu1hyXOY
where he kinda flirts with Sheryl Crow
So really one never knows when it comes to Michael! you guys decide!
@ Emily. The reason for plastic surgeries was because he had vitiligo! and his pepsi burn accident! (he generously donated the 1.5 million, compensation to burn center). Imagine what it could do to somebody so successful? He had no other choice.
No way, Michael was not gay, and he was definitely not a child molester… Look in to his eyes when he defends himself – there is no liar there…. He was the victim of rumors without humor and abuse by his father… I only wish I could have been a par tof his life to make him know how much he was loved = how handsome and sexy he really was – and to help him deal with the unkind world that he tried so hard to please, entertain and change into a better place. The man need real people with real love for him around and he could no find it anywhere… Its so sad that much his childhood he was so tortured and no one saw it or turned a blind eye b/c he was bringing in the $$… Michael gave his money away to some many worthy causes… even he money he got from Pepsi for messing him up in the fire he gave that mone to burn research. what a man….. MICHAEL YOU ARE ALL MAN… I BELIEVE IN YOU, I LOVE YOU and you are fine piece of chocholate although you lost all you outward color to vitiligo.. I know you loved your black nationality… Do you Remember the time…come on folks he related to being black. (watch the video)…. LOVE YOU MJ. you can sitteth up in the heavens now and laugh at all the vain idiots and haters who are yet to get their judgment !
Well I would say Michael was farely asexual. However, he surrounded himself with gay men. Dr. Arnold Klein who saw him 3 days before his death was photographed with his ex-partner.
Mike
Sex Medley & Man of the Year
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObj.....p;s=143441
i still think he was a homosexual pedophile. so yes he was gay.
also, whether he actually was a pedo or not aside, i don't quite understand why a person CAN'T possibly be a pedophile simply because he happens to be widely respected for other reasons. imagine if people made such arguments about homosexuals today? "well john waters can't possibly be a homosexual because he's a good director! you take back that slanderous lie!" or about other things "barack obama is not a muslim. he is a good person." (this was actually said by john mccain if you're not aware)
sure the act itself is deplorable, but some sympathy is also in order. pedophiles go through hell on earth because of something that is (almost) entirely out of their control. we don't have to suppress our urges (anymore) because they don't harm anyone. but just imagine having to do it. it's not easy.
Psychology books will tell you the signs of child abuse in infants, toddlers, children and adolescents. If you read up on it, you will find that a signs of child abuse in an adolescent are widely ranged. One sign being a perfectionist, which Michael Jackson is described as being by many people. Another sign is being asexual. Hmmmmm…. the man wasn't wacko after all. He was a very sensitive man that people took advantage of and poked fun at, and sadly nobody understood him until he died. Poor Michael, I love you! Thanks Joe for making your sons famous, and even more Thanks for SCREWING UP MICHAEL'S life!!!
one thing i don't understand though is why he had so many of the stereotypically gay behaviors (when brooke shields described her relationship to him i was constantly thinking about my own fag hag, he was a close friend of elizabeth taylor, list goes on) since he was asexual as you say. is it because he would have been gay IF he wasn't asexual? or must an asexual behave like a homosexual?
How does one behave like a homosexual? There's no wrong way to eat a reese's…ya douche.
Was MJ gay? Maybe. Was he a pedo? No.
I received Ian Halperin's book in the mail. An oversized tabloid disguised as a book. I read one paragraph from one page and it had a typo in it. I read another paragraph on another page where he said Michael Jackson gave him a sexual look while he was at a pizza place with two of his children. That's all it took. Ian Halperin is a clown. I put the book back in the packaging and returned it. Anyone that buys it and believes it may as well take out a subscription to tabloid and call it gospel.
Halperin commented on the timing of the book: "I timed it because I knew around this time he was a candidate to die. I'm being totally up-front about that."
I hope his kids get cancer.
I found a great clip on u tube it's an interview with Micheal
by Geraldo Rivera and it was an amazing insight to the REAL Micheal
Jackson. the interview was extremely tasteful….not going into
the plastic surgery how can a journalist ask someone something like
that..like I said b/f I think he was a handsome man from child
to adult so who gives a rats ass how many surgery's he had! He was
so kind hearted and gave sooooo much. It's a shame that was never
seen. I didn't hear about it. I think Brook Shields is a bitch.
She needs to keep her mouth shut. Did she every think that maybe
he was soooo shy to try anything that he just acted aloof with
the subject??? I think that Lisa Marie Presley and him defiantly
had sex I saw the interview with Diane Sawyer and she seems pretty
tough I don't think she would have put up with a no sex relationship. I think all this stems back to his good ol dad and
you have to be perfect looked perfect etc….totally fucked his head up on his self persona.
I don't see any stereotypical gay behaviors in Michael. His "fag hags" were all child stars, and THAT was the common thread he kept looking for in close female friendships. Liza, Liz, Brooke, Lisa-Marie… all of them grew up in the spotlight. Even his early little-boy friendships were with child stars: Macaulay Culkin, Sean Lennon, Corey Feldman, Mark Lester (<– well, he was a grownup, but a former child star) etc. Michael was obviously obsessed with what he considered his abnormal childhood, and had stated over and over again that he could not relate to "everyday people". So, what's the stereotypical gay behavior you read from this?
There is no proof that Michael was gay, straight, asexual or a pedophile. His sexuality remains a mystery. But as I said before, if I had to wager cash-money, I'd say he was an emotionally stunted heterosexual with low self-esteem and sexual anxiety. Does anyone remember that news item during the trial… something about a taped phone conversation in which Michael (then 32 yrs old) told a kid that he was a virgin, but dying to have sex with some woman he was hot for? Yeah, if that's true, it seems to fit my profile of him. Poor guy. I hope he's at peace now.
Michael Jackson was unusaul in many ways and this is so confusing to many of you that the only way you can make sense of it is by making assumptions to have Michael fit into something that makes sense to your own limited knowledge as evident in your posts especially with regard to his sexuality.
There are so many holes in many of your arguments and judgments, that many of you seem to hold onto, and say more about you than Michael. The posts that have any substance that deflate your positions are ignored. And so it goes. Despite all that we do know, many of you refuse to believe it because it doesn't fit into your limited understanding of whatever it is that confuses you. So you spin around in circles, believing that you know what your talking about which is laughable. If you had to put your money where your mouth is you'd be broke pretty fast. Because someone enjoys the company of children does not make them a pedophile. Because someone challenges gender stereotypes does not make them gay. And, need i add, that one can be gay and sleep with women, or not. I know that's a concept that is way too confusing for many of you. Get over it!
I think Michael was attracted to men more than he was to women. However, being black, Michael would have been subjected to some very intense homophobia from members of his own community. It would have led him to hiding or repressing his same-sex desires.
Very well said, Sur!!!
Sur, these are all just opinions. Nobody is claiming to know anything. Why all the hostility??
@Jim: I don't think you are the one to decide who should be one of us, I'd be happy to accept Michael as one of us.
i see you are struggling with pinning MJ as a gay man, i agree with the author, he was very asexual. i also admire how androgynous he was, and the strength to even maintain that!!
@emily:
The stage is a completely different atmosphere than off. MJused the stage as alter ego so he did the sexual persona up there because that's what his alter ego represented. Believe the stage is much different than any other experience, that's why so many people want to be up there. I think MJ was asexual because he never talked about sex in any of his songs. I think that's why he's such an idol. He never took of his good person image.
leave michael alone
Emily and a few others are awfully concerned about michael jackson's actual sexual orientation (and affirming his heterosexuality)….hmmmm, I wonder why.
Tank: I'm thirty and when I was young I loved loved his music
but my parents would not let me watch his videos. So when he passed I remembered I had not seen one single video so You Tube
here I come! and Holy shit I was not prepared for the Sexiness!
I'm not the only one…you should read the comments these woman
are leaving…His sexuality is interesting b/c he is sex on stage.
So one can't help but wonder.
Are y'all kidding about not talking about sex in his songs…ex:
In the closet.."I want to give it to you" and Give in to me…
and countless others.
I totally get that you can let go on stage and become a performer
but you put YOU in the performance.
I think the asexual thing is crazy! I read about the taped confession where he told a boy "I am dying to have sex with a woman" Also in some videos especially Panther dance some shots
actually looks as though he is masturbating and the finger wiggle he did looked like the obvious….(fingering a woman)
So the man knew something about sex.
He was a private man so I think that's why he didn't talk about
his conquest.
I just like to hear everyone's opinions it's interesting….
WHAT DO Y'ALL think now??
@demi: ?? Uh okay.
first of all the thing about him being castrated is bull, don't u think they would have noticed when he was strip searched for the molestation charges. second of all he was found not GUILTY on molesting those assholes they did it for the money even the reporter that was conviced that he did it changed her mind during the trial and wrote a book (the michael jackson conspiracy) detailing how those idiots lied, hence the word NOT GUILTY, and third of all he wasn't gay if u go and look up 1984 ebony magazine excerpt (are there any special black ladies in ur life u will see that he mentions Diana Ross that he loves her and wanted to marry her, and when she got married to arne he was so upset that he refused to go to the wedding.so all u haters out there shut the f___ up its iether ur jelous or some of u r pediphiles or some of u r gay. RIP. michael all the normal people love you and u were gorgeous even the way u looked at the press conference very sexy in dirty diana and the closet I love u.
So is this kid Omer Bhatta his kid, or what?
@star200064: Okay i understood the fact that micheal jackson needs to be alone but please don't compare us homosexuals to pedophiles. R.I.P. Micheal Jackson. <33333333333333333333
la verda lo estrtaño de maciado desde que se murio jamas pense que se moriria tan joven y guapo pero con el escandalo que acaban de abrir de el que era gay yo creo que eso no era gay por que no se parecia bay y toda via los igo amando de nmaciado
I totally find this article sicking… Come On people…. Of ALL people if Michael Jackson was gay it would have come out in the media long before his death. This sicko wait until MJ death to proclaim that he was gay and had gay lovers proves to me this a totally sicko bastard. GET A LIFE SICKO. Also if you go on utube R & B singer Stephanie Mills admits to being MJ girlfriend in the late 70's and early 80's and also mentioned that MJ was ALL Man. I also believe that Brook Shields and Tatum O'Neil could probably prove this as well…. The man was not Gay he didn't even act like a gay man (no signs at ALL) not did he moleste those boys. People like this and the media are just SICK i wish the Jackson family would start pressing charges against accusations like this.
All these allegations about Michael Jackson are false he is not gay. Some time ago it was reported that while in Germany Michael Jackson had commented on a model the germans call "The Worlds most beautiful Woman" on a billboard that model was non other than Beaulatasha, Michael remarked that she was the most beautiful woman in the world and he wanted to met her you see Michael loved the ladies.
That's very funny, being that Beau Latasha is an internet hoax and doesn't exist.
@blastout: Beaulatasha (people that is funny do not want a woman this beautiful to exist lol) is real and I am only reporting on what I read. This website is amazing. Have a great day!
No one has ever been able to locate a photo of this person. That is why it is a hoax. And my comment has nothing to do with whether Michael was gay, straight, or asexual. It really doesn't matter to me what his sexuality was. He was an amazing person and will be missed. He was too good for this world.
I'd sleep with him. I'm a girl, by the way. I bet he had a huge penis.
Michael was as he wished to be. He may have had issues with women whom he felt were "loose" because of all the sex he was exposed to at a young age via his brothers exploits and all the crazy females who tried to attack him in his younger years, possibly instilled fears. He probably loved the attention later on but never was able to cope with a relationship because he may have felt he could not live up to the expectations. Plus he suffered from Vitiligo which may have deferred his needs and also his surgeries were problems at times and may have caused him to feel unattractive, plus the "burn incident" did not help. He possibly experienced sex in spurts, a few times with silenced partners and at other times ignored public urges but satisfied private ones primarily alone. Michael also was supposedly very "shy". Child molestation, secret gay rendezvous or part-time girlfriends? Who knows for sure, except Michael and a few close friends, hired hands and family members.
@DeeDee: Right, but not too sure about the Tatum and Brook comment because Tatum was said to have scared him to death because she was so forward and Brook seems to have tried or maybe "hoped" to get with Mike but he just wanted her as a friend. I heard the Stephanie Mills thing too when I was a young man in high school but I don't think that little ball of dynamite would have let Mike get away and I would have loved to see them as a couple, even married with children. I pray he did find a female companion's mental, physical and spiritual love at some point in his life, even if only briefly.
Yes he was. Michael was exactly straight. He said he was straight, he married women and I believe him. In 1980, music arranger Gene Page, (Never can say Good-bye, Daddy;s Home, etc), offered to set me up on a blind date with MJ. He said we were the same age, we were both quiet, and something about me justreminded me od Michael. He said, "I'd love to set you up. You two would get along great!" He had known Michael since he was a boy and considered him straight. The media doesn't have enough news to report and some people just don't have enough to do. He was straight!
Omigosh, Melinda, Michael was at his absolute peak of glorious hotness in 1980. Why on earth didn't you go on that date??
I miss him alot i didn't want him to die i wish i went to one of his concerts like the one in 2003. But i wish he was still alive so i can go i wanted to meet him and give him hugs and i can be one of his children Paris because i can call him dad,daddy, or father.
@emily: i agree!!
ok look this is the way i feel and some of you may agree and some of you may not. you can't go around for the rest of your life believein everything that people like say. if it didn't come out of michael's mouth then we should just not listen to it cause it crazy. if michael was gay (which i dont think he was) it shouldn't matter. if you are a true mj fan then you should still love him no matter what. i do! i love all the different michael's i guess you can say. i don't care if he has a small nose or big, i don't care if he is black or white, and care if he had straight hair or curled hell i don't even care if it was a wig. it still never changed his personality. i'm one of his new fans which means i didn't know to much about him until he died and i looked up his music and of course along came the bad stuff i thought the stuff about him touching kids was stupid. he loved kids to much to do that people just wanted money which is so horrible cause i think he is the sweetest person and you just don't do things like that. the boy from the second trial even said that he lied just so they could get money. that happened in 2005 and i think michael had both prince and paris by that time if not he just had prince. so why would he risk touching a child who could tell on him when he had his own kid(s)? cuase he wasn't into children people and i think we know that! michael just loved kids so much cause they were the only ones who didn't judge him in this heartless world and people think it's wierd but everyone does stuff that another person would think is wierd. i still love michael even though i never got to meet him. if michael was gay it's none of our business and it doesn't matter cause he is gon now. but if he was i think he would have stayed away from all the sexual dance moves cause people would keep bringing up his sexuality but michael wasn't gay. just because he didn't go around talkin about who all he had sex with like many other people in this world do doesn't mean he wasn't. he had enough respect for those people to not tell their personal business. and all of us should have the same respect for him. just because he passed doesn't mean we have to talk about him and spread his business around that we know nothing about. people (men) who say they have had sex with michael are sayin this stuff now because he is gone and i bet they probably got a little money for saying it too. that's all the world is about 'money'. that's why michael jackson isn't here now. people can say he is the reason he is gone but i have never known michael to be a doctor and prescribe medicine to hisself. if doctors were not so money hungry they could have told him no. i mean what was michael going to do blow the doctor up NO he was just going to go to another doctor. but michael didn't have alot of people in his life that truely cared about him. he only had yes men who wanted to do anything to make him happy. it's so sad. but anyways, people we need to have respect. oh yeah and another thing i understand why michael would want to leave his kids to diana. i mean after all we really didn't know about her kids until they got older and started their careers because she kept them out of the spot light. I still don't think michael is or was gay. if you agree feel free to say so. RIP MICHAEL
@Melinda Santa Cruz: omg what happened why didn't you go on the date or did you! i'm only 15 and i'm in love with michael he has the best personality i would of killed to go on a date with him. how old where you then. please tell me
Amber, you may have valid things to say but when you post it all in one huge paragraph with no breaks and no punctuation it makes it very hard to read. News flash: "Enter" on your keyboard is your friend.
Maybe that's the one part of himself that people can't have, that he wouldn't share, that's his, the nature of his sexuality. They took away everything else didn't they. I say who cares.
i was watching his 'come together' performance in his movie MOONWALKER, damn he was so sexy and he knew it. there's a part during that performance were he dances with his male guitarist, he bends over and almost touches the floor then he kicks the air and touches his crotch. oh that does it for me, it makes me wanna scream with excitement. i dnt think he was gay though, i just think he wasn't scared 2 be as sexual as he could be on stage which other artists are scared 2 do.
LOL Michael's sexuality. Michael liked foreplay & was a bit of a showist. He loved the audience and performing. I don't think Michael believed in sex without passion and being in love. Michael may have viewed sex as an emotion of the mind. If there is no heat from both he himself and the woman, its more a chore than a way to find immense pleasure.
@Marv:
Yeah, in this book he says Mike was a bottom and was so thin that his lover was affraid of break him…
The man left us AWESOME music!!! Who cares who he slept with! Everything else has been stolen from his life….Let him rest in peace!!
Mj was a king. Kings with penises have vaginas thrown at them at all times. Do not believe for a second mj did not enjoy all the sex that was coming to him with whomever. Power fame and money will always afford you all the genital pleasure you can handle.
MJ no doubt had vaginas thrown at him, that doesn't mean he was, let's say, easy with just any or all vaginas. I believe it has been well documented that he was, infact, a very shy person off stage. To even quote, "childlike". So even though, I too, believe he was straight, I also believe he was 'old fashion' and that was probably instilled in him by his mother and the JW. Just because you are out there for the world to consume, remember that he was very protected or surrounded by his enablers! His family couldn't even get at him that easy. And his managers knew he was the golden goose who laid their golden eggs, so protected he was. In conclusion, I believe he did enjoy his sex when he had the chance too…most likely one being Lisa Marie, but I also believe was not available as much as you want to think for this 'free for all' genital pleasure. This is just my humble opinion.
@honestjoey: MJ no doubt had vaginas thrown at him, that doesn't mean he was, let's say, easy with just any or all vaginas. I believe it has been well documented that he was, infact, a very shy person off stage. To even quote, "childlike". So even though, I too, believe he was straight, I also believe he was 'old fashion' and that was probably instilled in him by his mother and the JW. Just because you are out there for the world to consume, remember that he was very protected or surrounded by his enablers! His family couldn't even get at him that easy. And his managers knew he was the golden goose who laid their golden eggs, so protected he was. In conclusion, I believe he did enjoy his sex when he had the chance too…most likely one being Lisa Marie, but I also believe was not available as much as you want to think for this 'free for all' genital pleasure. This is just my humble opinion.
Jennyfromtheblock, you are very wise. Here's some insight, new on YouTube, from Corey Rooney and Chris Apostle, two Sony producers who knew Michael well.
Part 1 of 6 => http://tinyurl.com/o6sctw
Part 2 of 6 => http://tinyurl.com/mrz5vs
Part 3 of 6 => http://tinyurl.com/oeuqra
Part 4 of 6 => http://tinyurl.com/qcwde2
Part 5 of 6 => http://tinyurl.com/ojs3ru
Part 6 of 6 => http://tinyurl.com/ryw7yv
Hi SoCalGal~
Thank you SO much for these interview links on YouTube about the interview with Corey Rooney and Chris Apostle, two Sony producers, who knew Michael well.
Amazing! I'm not surprised at all about how they felt about him. From one spirit to another and with hearts wide open, one just knows already.
God bless them, and God bless you!
Jenny
@SoCalGal: Hi SoCalGal~
Thank you SO much for these interview links on YouTube about the interview with Corey Rooney and Chris Apostle, two Sony producers, who knew Michael well.
Amazing! I'm not surprised at all about how they felt about him. From one spirit to another and with hearts wide open, one just knows already.
God bless them, and God bless you!
Jenny
Jenny, check out this forum:
Vindication is Better Than Tributes => http://preview.tinyurl.com/lp3tps
(MJ Haters, stay out!)
@SoCalGal: Thank you! I joined!
For all:
Asexual means "you don't experience sexual attraction".
That's all. That means you don't go round on the street or wherever, see a person and think "oh, I wanna engegage in sexual actions with them"…..that's all.
So to speak, an asexual can act sexual on stage,dancing, singing, writing,…whatever….can even watch porn…etc…they can do everything a sexual person can do. They have every ability…they even have the ability to enjoy sexual things…o_o
They just don't experience sexual attraction means they will not be the ones in a relationship saying "let's do it", they'd rather be asked.
Oh, and there are also "demi-sexuals", who only experience sexual attraction when in love, in relationship etc….all other people leave them totally cold (in sexual ways).
And the reason for him singing "girl" all the time…well, he actually talked like this when not interviewed but like when he was talking with a female friend, he would always say "blablabla…girrrl". (There's a private phone conversation he had with a female friend on youtube, he constantly says "girl" while talking to her).
I don't know what he was or what…..I always thought he was asexual or at least demi-sexual….
Hell, everyone knows that boy was a queer. He done slept with little boys – that makes him a queer. Michael Jackson was as queers as they come – faggot to the core. He dressed like a woman, had surgery to make himself look like a woman and why? Cuz he wanted little boys to love him like a woman.
That thar's the definition of a HOMOSEXUAL!
Ricardovitz, you sound like a pathetic excuse for a man yourself. Ugh.
Maybe Michael masturbated. He couldn't trust anyone and didn't want women trying to get pregnant by him so he would be bothered with those stories. Anyone that had sex with him would blab anyway, so he figured why bother, I'll just use my hand.
"Jackson never clued us in that he was neither straight or gay"
…thats not true. He said that he was not gay in an interview.
undercover3011 is correct.
http://www.thesportsinterview.com/mjackson.html
That Ricardovits pig sure sounds like joe to me-but honestly is this how we pay MJ back?What if he's kids read this?Lets take a deep breath and pull our dirty minds out of a dead man's pants.That bottom comment from Shane was lower than Joe Jackson himself
Luvo you are straight on the money.But mj was one fine piece of meat,he oozed class,glamour throughout his trials and tribulations,yes lately he did seem more like Michelle than Michael,but big deal,just shows you how comfortable he was in his own sexuality.Whats next,is Obama gay?Is Hillary taking hormones to be more of a man?I never knew the gay community was so short of recruits that now they are recruiting the dead!SHAMEFULL to the memory of such a gentle soul,gifted perfomer,loving father,soulfull humanitarian
I ain't got no problem callin that Michael Jackson a queer. He was what he was. That dead-beat, child molesting queer never did a dern thing for me. I don't owe him nothing and he don't owe me nothing.
Fact – Michael Jackson was a drug addict.
Fact – Michael Jackson died due to his drug addiction.
Fact – Michael Jackson was a dead-beat…didn't pay his debts.
Fact – Michael Jackson molested young boys.
Fact – that makes Michael Jackson a queer and a pedophile.
Fact – Michael Jackson got paid for singing and dancing, Luvo. He got paid lots of money for it. I never cared for his singing and dancing much, but that don't make no nevermind. Ain't nobody owe Michael Jackson nothing for what he done got paid for.
Stop getting your panties all in a wad because I tell it just like it is. Michael Jackson wasn't no Mesiah – he was a drug-addicted, perverted, queer loser.
You know, that Ricardovitz sure knows a lot about gays and pedophilia. An expert, I'd say. Suffering from his own pitiful self-image and desires. LMAO!
Rest in peace sweet Michael. The real losers like Ricardovitz are still here with us unfortuately…PUCK!
To get beyond the retarded sourpuss Ricardovitz on here (who's life no one will remember), I'd like to share this comment from another musician that I admire on the day of MJ's burial.
"I truly hope he is memorialized as the '83 moonwalking, MTV owning, mesmerizing, unstoppable, invincible Michael Jackson."
–John Mayer
I agree wholeheartedly John!
RIP angel
I disagree. I think calling anyone "asexual" who made probably several Billion off of selling sexuality to people is asexual. Just because MJ didn't advertise his sexual preferences like half of celebrities these days in no way indicates he had none, not to me.
I was linked here reading about that idiot assemblyman who yapped about his sex life and ruined his career. I still don't see why people care so much either way. I have so many bigger issues in my life than whether or not Michael Jackson liked his Kielbasa in the backdoor….. I wish I could see such interest in the national healthcare system or education as I do in one man who made some music.
If we as a society could step back and figure out WHY we worship celebrities so much, and whether or not that is actually healthy….. if there was even a fraction of the time devoted to discussing their sex lives spent on each person being introspective and thinking about THEIR OWN problems and issues, the world would be a much nicer place.
You guys might all be waiting for the book.. but this is just yesterdays news in my mind.
Who CARES if he was gay!?
I know virtually nothing about the philosophy behind Jehovah’s Witness practices, but certainly many religious groups are intolerant of any kind of sexuality that strays from “the norm”, and perhaps when Michael left the family and found his own path, there was more to it than just seeking musical independence. It may also be possible that his childhood indoctrination to the family religion left him with a sense of shame as he grew older and knew that he was different (and he certainly was); if you live in shame about who you are, that’s a problem.
In my humble opinion the most plausible explanation is that he was bisexual or transgender, enjoyed sex as much as anyone else (maybe even more since sex was a way out of isolation and loneliness and boredom, however fleeting), and would probably indulge in whatever form presented itself at a propitious moment and got his juices going sufficiently to overcome the risk. And every time one of those encounters happened, he ran the risk of encountering a person attracted only to his money and fame, a user, a phony, a groupie, someone who’d go running to the nearest tabloid piece of s@#t with the photos of them in bed. How many human beings could he really trust? Very few, and we’re seeing the evidence in the media right now. Seems like everyone who has ever had an axe to grind is popping out of their garbage cans, and the tabloids are eating it up and trying to assassinate his character all over again. It’s pathetic. Sadly the prescription drug addiction thing is going to be really ugly, and the doctors who are indicted (if any) are going to fight back publicly.
To some extent, it’s OUR fault – we do love our icons and idols, and we expect them to give their all, and many do. Some we create out of thin air, some really are exceptionally talented. One day we love them, can’t get enough, hang on every word… the next day they’re old news. We want mystery, excitement, mystery, glamour, mystery, something that touches us in deep & meaningful places. We think they have something we don’t have, that undefinable something that separates them from the common folk. The one thing that the truly fascinating performers have in common, the ones that you cannot take your eyes off of when they’re on stage or on screen, is that they innately understand how to use their sexual energy. This transcends physical beauty, transcends talent, transcends age and gender and race. Doesn’t matter if they are gay, straight, bisexual, repressed, frustrated or deviant in expressing their sexuality – it’s all about energy. Michael Jackson had this quality big-time. There is no possible doubt that he had incredible sexual energy when he performed. But offstage it seemed he would mask it, tamp the fires down, become the “good Michael” seeking universal love and approval, even speak in a different tone of voice, but also still wanting his chance to be “bad” and “dangerous”. Quincy Jones said he felt that all of MJ’s songs were in some way autobiographical – if so, seems reasonable to think there could be many tantalizing clues in his music about who MJ thought he was. (Should we “keep it in the closet”? hehehe)
There always seemed a duality about MJ in all aspects of his life, a conflict he could never quite resolve, the saint/sinner thing, wanting to be all things to all people but also reckless and wild and gleefully wicked and crotch-grabbing.. Some part of him wanted desperately to flee into the “normal” world of marriage and children, but applying normalcy to the kind of life his worldwide fame forced him to lead seems an improbable thing. Cybill Shepard recently spoke about her ex-lover Elvis Presley and MJ, and said that “fame at that level was simply not survivable”. Michael Jackson was a very complex, complicated, driven, conflicted, and ultimately human artist whose talent never satisfied the hunger within him. His sexuality, whatever aspect it took, was a big part of what made him an incredible performer, and I agree that it doesn’t matter how you define him now. Nobody can quite pin him down no matter how they try, and this may be his ultimate revenge on all of us.
Jehovah's Witness And Sex.
I'm gonna impart some infomation on y'all 'bout Jehovah's Witnes and Sex. I knew one of these here JW gals once. And, I didn't give a dern fer her "cain't do that" and "cain't do that" lifestyle. But, she'd hump a man like a rabbid dog in heat!! She din't do no drugs nor drink no liquor. Nosiree – don't even go thar with her.
All you got to do with that gal was git her talkin 'bout religious stuff. Got her hotter than a Florida muck fire and her panties as damp as hot summer dew. Ya jest teller her what to do, like ya mean it, and she'll do it.
Baby steps. I tell her to "get them stinky went panties off you sinfull vixon". and "come 'oer hear and I'm a gonna spank you cuz you need thar Devil spanked outa you…."
Ummmmhummm. She was a good 'ole gal with a good heart and a raging fire down below.
@Jim:
The truth is if someone molested a parents children they would wind up dead…and it would be temporary insanity..
Even if however, they didn't react that way, WHY THEY WOULD ACCEPT MONEY???……..WTF????
IF YOUR CHILD WAS RAPED YOU AREN'T GONNA ACCEPT MONEY,MONEY DOESN'T FIX YOUR CHILD'S MIND…it does however fix the hole in a parents pocket…
To me,it's a little too convenient that money somehow made the problem all better…
Them kind of folks who'd let thar childs romp 'round on Michael Jackson's Kiddy-Diddling Ranch are EXACTLY the kind of parents who'd whore thar child out fer the biggest buck. What thar hell do ya think we are dealin with here, folks?
Sick, twisted money-whores are attracted to sick twisted drug-guzzling Kiddy-Diddling Pedophiles. Y'all been living some real sheltered lives. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE STINK COMING FROM MICHAEL JACKSON. He wern't no good. Jest 'nother bad man who's dead.
Have any of you notice that RICARDOVITZ keeps coming on this page and expressing his red-neck words about Michael? Don't you find that amusing? Like I said before, RICARDOVITZ is only expressing his own pent up feelings about children and is definitely the pedophile on here. Let's feel sorry for him, he obviously has no life other than coming on here and pointing the finger at Michael when he knows he should be pointing it at himself, that is, when he's not pointing it at children. lol
The no-brainers like RICARDOVITZ and the mainstream media and its bias news is what killed Michael.
We love you hon, you're away from these real pedophiles! :)
Little lady, I dern't kill no Michael Jackson. News Reporters dern't kill no Michael Jackson. He done killed himself. Why, little lady, do folks want to blame Michael's death on everyone but the one idiot who done killed him – HIMSELF! Michael done hired him his own dope-dealer-doctor to give him all the drugs he wanted. All Michael had to do was pitch a hissy fit like a li'll child.
Good riddance to Michael – Darwin done took care of him real good. Kiddy-diddlin dope fiends like Michael Jackson is better off takin the big long dirt nap.
Hi all of you who love Michael and adore his memory,
I refuse to come on here again and listen to an uneducated, small-minded baboon such as RICARDOVITZ. I'm unsubscribing. No one can get through to this dumbass, and all he wants is attention else he wouldn't keep coming back with his asinine garbage. Why God allows someone like RICARDOVITZ to live and breathe is beyond me!
Eat shit RICARDOVITZ and die!
I'm outta here~
Love to all of Michael's fans, be well and prosper!
Fade out…
I've always believed that he was asexual. But other than that who really cares. He was a wonderful human being who will TRULY be missed. He was indeed 1 of the best of us!
Little Lady,
Eatin "shit" is only somethin that queer-folk like Michael Jackson does. I bet he done ate his share of shit, girl. Yessiree, he did and you know it.
But, anywhoo – I'm healthy. I eat right and live right. I'm a God fearing moral person. I treat folks good, and do my ernest to be truthful at all times. I'm gonna live a right long life, so don't you fret none 'bout that.
So, tar answer yer question, I ain't dyin, and I ain't eat'n no fecal matter. If you unsubscribe, I reckon yer jest too wrong on the facts to argue with me, and too weak in the morals to take a man like me on. May God have mercy on your soul and peace to all.
Oh the mystery and allure of Michael Jackson. Well, he did something right because good, bad or indifferent, we can't stop talking about him and everyone has an opinion. I find him fascinating. Can't seem to get enough of him, everything out of this man was pure sex and sensual (that finger thing, lord have mercy!). The guy was HOT! His childhood tragic, makes me sick to my stomach really, the way he was forced to be on stage, 5 years old, under abuse, like a damn circus animal. The nonsense of the trials, total BS (i'm convinced as I'm an attorney had read all the trial transcripts). But, what he gave us, what he left us, we should all be so thankful. What a talent. That man, nothing but pure sex…everything about him..he was liquid gold on stage. Just watching some of his old videos, I'm either up out of my chair, music cranked up, dancin' my ass off or moved to tears with Man in the Mirror, Don't Walk Away, What More Can I Give, etc… I don't think (again we don't know) that he was gay, not that it mattered. If you read the Rolling Stone interview with Lisa Marie, she said he was just a normal guy, deep voice, was funny, drank, swore, etc…not the man on he we 'knew'. They continued to see each other through 1998, even after the divorce and she was really messed up for a good couple years after they divorced. She has also very angry, wrote some pretty tough songs about him. If it was 'fake', there would be no pain at all..you just walk away and remain friends. I doubt she'd say all this if it wasn't true, she certainly didn't need the publicity or exposure. I would imagine they were 'screwin' all the time..HA! I think he would have been just a very interesting person to sit down and talk to, like.."dude, Mike…how do you even get through one day of your life"..ya know. He was an avid reader, self taught, very smart, studied everything; history, religion, ideology, art, psychology, think he was bilingual, traveled around the world like 8 times, meet anyone – everyone with any type of influence (royalty, presidents, kings, queens, rich, poor). But, yet was private…so he kept all of us guessing about his sexuality. I don't find him weird at all. But feel deeply saddened that he's life ended like this. So loved by many and used? by most.
Hey Richardovitz: I guess it would take a "shit-eater" to know another "shit-eater", now wouldn't it? Ergo, you told on yourself. The rest of your spew wasn't even worth my time to read. I guess you don't need me to tell you where you can go & what you can do. Goodbye.
The idea of a bunch of strangers, people who didn't even know Michael personally but just making assumptions based on what they've read in books or magazines, is just absurd and ridiculous. Unless you went to bed with him, how would you know if he was gay, straight, asexual or whatever? Most people are afforded the courtesy of their sex life being private. There's plenty of evidence that he had a red-blooded interest in women, if nothing else, the porn they found when they raided Neverland was all girlie magazines. Most men don't buy those mags unless they have at least some sexual interest in…well, women. There was also a secret girlfriend, "S," whom he mentions in his taped phone conversatiions, with whom he had a very passionate fling. Not to mention Lisa-Marie said they had very hot sex. And he and Debbie Rowe both maintained that their two children were conceived naturally; neither of them ever deviated on that story.
I do think he had some obvious issues when it came to sex and most likely it was the result of some childhood trauma, as others have speculated. But let's not emasculate him here. To assume that Michael Jackson in the prime of his life, a grown man with all the same biological makings as the rest of us, was this asexual being with no interest in sex whatsoever, is just absurd and naive.
@Denise
You're absolutely right! How can I get in touch with you? Would like to ask you a question if I may.
Thanks~ Jenna
Denise to sit up there & think that he was 100% straight & hypersexual as you make him out to be is just a plain product of your very own fantasies, which are ergo naive & teenaged– as w/ every woman (& man) who has ever dreamed of going to bed w/ him. Is it not possible that people lie? He said that all the time… hell, Dr. Greg House is famous for his quote: "Everybody Lies". The press lies, family, friends, & lovers can lie, hell even Michael could lie himself. It may seem wrong, but it's human to do so. It's human to have sex & it's also human to abstain. (You're knowledge, or lack there of of asexuality is limited, to say the least. A present: http://www.asexuality.org/home/
You've said it yourself "unless you've been to bed w/ him, how do you know? Then let me be the 1st to throw your owns words back to you: How do YOU know that he did? Did YOU go to bed w/ him @ anytime before 6/25/09. (I'm going to take a shot in the dark & say, "No.")
Did you ever think that the porn (if there was any) could've belonged to some1 else? Other people lived @ Neverland, like his staff, friends, guest, etc. & As for Lisa Marie's claims of "hot sex", maybe yes & maybe no. Maybe yes they did & maybe no they didn't. Don't you think that it's mighty odd that when the subject of sex came up, it was always LISA who opened up her mouth & not Michael himself? It was almost like she was vouching for him. He always said, "I'm a gentlemen", but really would you want your wife to spill her guts about your martial business? To some, it always looked like, she was just saying things to bolster up a "manly" image for Michael.
But to me, he didn't need it. I always loved him for who he was as a person & the principles that he stood for. 1 thing that I loved about him so much was the idea that he was very shy about sex. We live in a world where people are so quick to jump out of their clothes when some1 says "BOO!" But Michael wasn't 1 of them. Whatever he was, gay, straight, bi, or even asexual, it was no1's business but his own. Not the press, not mine, & definitely not yours. I will part on this note: If he "got some", then good for him. If he didn't then that's okay, too. Either way, we will never know, because we were never meant to. Those secrets are forever locked away in a crypt in downtown L.A., so basically, believe what you want.
Let us try to remember him they way he was meant to be remembered: as a talented entertainer & a wonderful human being, for THAT is what is truly important… not the rumors of his sheets.
To reinforce what you were trying to accomplish here and bring to the surface was the very words out of Michael's mouth to a friend whom he had known for a very long time (and for whom he obviously trusted and didn't know her husband was recording the conversations). The very tapes that were submitted as evidence in the 2005 trial, which, in itself, was proof of their validity.
Denise was only trying to put to rest all the floating rumors people are always spreading and find so important that have hounded Michael all of his life. It was unquestionably Michael on those phone recordings because of the personal subject matter, the orientation he made of family and others, things going on in his life, his show dates, people in other countries, his loves, and most importantly a 'VOICE' that is instantly recognizable as HIS OWN. And before you slam me, I heard those tapes! So did Michael lie to his friend on the phone, he could have, but if you heard the tapes, you would know early on he was not. And I guess that just comes from God given logic and a good sense and dose of reality. They were extremely inscriptive conversations over a period of time. Yes, this is my opinion, but an opinion that was believable for the jury in the 2005 trial.
I have never met Michael, I have never slept with him, but I do know MJs clearly identifiable voice and the things he shared on that phone was things you would only share with a very trusted friend, what I would share with a very trusted friend myself. And again, this only proved that Michael really had few people he COULD trust. But thank God for the tapes, they played a pivotal role with those lying tongues in that despicable molestation trial.
Out of the light of the mainstream media and tabloids, yes, he was speaking in the terms of his desires for women, intimacy and relationships in general. And before anyone pounces on this, I didn't really feel right about listening to those tapes, but curiosity won out, and I wanted to hear it from Michael's own mouth because I was sick of all the damn rumors that have plagued him and that low life’s have found so scrumptious!
His sexual inclination was the main one, along with this crazy disgusting fixation that he was into little boys. The very rumors that this man fought to clarify and for which overshadowed him since 1993, was put to rest in those tapes. But, as we all know, not in the minds of some of the foul public. Hell, you could say a ham sandwich molested the cheese on it, and people would jump to believe it. And it would be up to the ham to prove it’s innocence, not the other way around which it should be. Yet again, the product of so many sick minds.
Yes, he was one of the GREATS, absolutely, and his legacy should be just that and not about his sexual preference or the Santa Barbara’s DA that’s maliousous intent to bring him down over the two attempts of extortion for which will forever hang over Michael Jackson. BUT, that is not the legacy most want to remember, it was the very things Denise was referring to. How sad.
It appears Denise’s attempt in her post was only to dispel all of the 'judgment' placed on this man in this thread only, not what he should be remember for. It appears so many do not want to remember him for his genius.
Why society is always on the bandwagon about MJs sexual innuendo, the molestation for which the evidence acquitted him, and whatever he wanted to do to change his physical body (which is the right of any human being including all of you) is mind-boggling!
Bottom line, we live in a SICK society, a SICK nation. The whole world knows this, excluding England, who is as SICK as we are! We are for the most part, silly and place little importance on the things we should be like the environment, poverty and crime. Yet, the importance that is put on fame, tabloid junkies, sensationalism to sell crappy papers and magazines, is destroying us. If any of you had to live in Michael’s shoes after the shit he had to endure, not a damn one of you would want to do it. He suffered mentally, emotionally and physically by all who wanted to tar and feather him. Hell, with the scrutiny he was put under, I would have drowned in drugs as well!!!
Yes, Michael was one of the GREATS, and his talent, in which God gave him, few will ever process which is why the ones on here and elsewhere want to crucify him. They WISH they had the talent you had in one single strand of hair! It is also important for the people who do respect him, love him, and believe in him, to continue to honor him and spread his love, and maybe, just maybe, one day society WILL know the true heart of this man and stop all this meaningless tittle-tattle.
Rest in peace Michael, you gave your all to this world; and many want to spit on you even now. You have left these sick and corrupt bashers behind. They're losers! Spread your ‘MAGIC’ in the Heavens where they cannot touch you anymore.
Love you babe!
I just have to interject here with what LADY ROBYN said. How ironic that she dare to preach to Denise about all the innuendos' about Michael by saying they are clearly not known to anyone but to Michael himself and they have been laid to rest with him. Yet, in the same breath, she can pass her own judgment and belief onto others about him. (Case in point, I copied her paragraph below)
Quote. "Don't you think that it's mighty odd that when the subject of sex came up, it was always LISA who opened up her mouth & not Michael himself? It was almost like she was vouching for him. He always said, "I'm a gentlemen", but really would you want your wife to spill her guts about your martial business? To some, it always looked like, she was just saying things to bolster up a "manly" image for Michael." Unquote.
Wouldn’t you call that an opinion and pure speculation on LADY ROBYN’S part? She’s dissecting LISA here with her own projections of what LISA said. Does she personally know LISA to justify what she wrote? I will go out on a limb here and say NO. So what she is basically accusing Denise of, she is doing herself. Here’s the definition of double standards: A set of principles permitting greater opportunity or liberty to one than to another.
Your rebuttal really takes the validity out of the rest of your post. I don’t think preaching is your forte. Enough said.
Rest in peace Michael, you were the GREATEST!
I just have to interject here with what LADY ROBYN said. How ironic that she dare to preach to Denise about all the innuendos' about Michael by saying they are clearly not known to anyone but to Michael himself and they have been laid to rest with him. Yet, in the same breath, she can pass her own judgment and belief onto others about him (case in point, I copied a paragraph from her post below)
Quote. "Don't you think that it's mighty odd that when the subject of sex came up, it was always LISA who opened up her mouth & not Michael himself? It was almost like she was vouching for him. He always said, "I'm a gentlemen", but really would you want your wife to spill her guts about your martial business? To some, it always looked like, she was just saying things to bolster up a "manly" image for Michael." Unquote.
Wouldn’t you all call that an opinion and pure speculation on LADY ROBYN’S part? She’s dissecting LISA here with her own projections of what LISA said. Does she personally know LISA to justify what she wrote? I will go out on a limb here and say NO. So what she is basically accusing Denise of, she is doing herself. Here’s the definition of double standards: A set of principles permitting greater opportunity or liberty to one than to another.
Your rebuttal really takes the validity out of the rest of your post. I don’t think preaching is your forte. Enough said.
Rest in peace Michael, you were the GREATEST!
Just for the 'RECORD', Everly is my name — AllyCat is my alias. I thought my first comment didn't post because it didn't show up the first time, but I see it finally did. Sorry for the double posting folks.
Michael, I love you more~
It never ceases to amaze me just how simple people can be toward Michael Jackson. Why is it so important that every1 wants to dissect every little detail about this man's personal life when he was alive but especially now that he is no longer here to defend himself. If you Emily, Denise & every1 else truly were a fans of MJ you would be reminded of what he said during his interview w/ Oprah back in 1993: "If I had a chance to talk w/ Micheangelo, I would want to know what inspired to do the things that he did, to make the creations that he made, not who he dated & who he went to bed w/." But you continue to go against that. To him the sex life of individuals was a private matter. But you all are taking what YOU THINK is his personal business & put it out in the street. In the continual "selling of Michael Jackson" there are going to be people who are going to come out of the woodwork with "untold secrets". But after awhile it gets sickening. I'd rather let the man rest. If you were truly fans of his, you'd let go of this "round-robin", (heh) & again appreciate him for his musical artistry & the person that he was. Who cares who he did or didn't sleep w/? It's none of your business, Denise, Emily & any1 would else. You'll ever know what he was like, because you weren't meant to. Quit the speculation & listen to his music & watch his videos, for that is where he will truly live for ever. Long Live The King. Long May He Reign & Long May He Rock!
Lady Robyn, I agree whole-heartedly with everything you said about Michael's legend and the God given talents he had and left us all to enjoy. As well, I agree that his sex life was his business and his alone. What I have a problem with is your telling others that they shouldn't speculate about his sexual orientation when you did the very same thing in an earlier post.
You wrote that you thought him to be asexual. So? Others were just forking their opinions out like you were. Why did you jump on their bandwagon? If it were such a big deal for you to respect his privacy, then don't do it. It’s the pot calling the kettle black.
And here you go again with another quote: "Don't you think that it's mighty odd that when the subject of sex came up, it was always LISA who opened up her mouth & not Michael himself? It was almost like she was vouching for him. He always said, "I'm a gentlemen", but really would you want your wife to spill her guts about your martial business? To some, it always looked like; she was just saying things to bolster up a "manly" image for Michael."
That is TOTAL speculation on your part. You're assuming Lisa didn't mean what she said. Unless you know LISA and know she didn’t mean that…then it’s pure conjecture. Who cares if other people thought she was bolstering up a "manly" image, what others think is NOT fact. The Diane Sawyer interview was what it was, just like the Oprah interview was what it was. All the viewers know is what they heard and nothing more.
I don't know about anyone else on here, but I find using the words 'simple people' as very demeaning. If you meant 'simple minded' that’s debasing too, and you’ve insulted many on this thread, including myself. There are others ways to feed an overweening ego than to insult other people. I realize that there is one person, in particular, on here that is very brutal when it comes to Michael, but my feedback is only about “assumptions people are having on his sexual preference” and nothing more, which again, I feel is nobody’s business.
I’m not here to get into some long drawn out war of words with you, I just want you to realize what you are saying, and to practice what you preach. I don’t know you, but you sound like someone who loves and admires Michael Jackson very much.
I love Michael Jackson too and I’ve been a fan since the early 1970’s, so let’s DO remember him as the GREATEST ARTIST of our time and as far as I’m concerned, the GREATEST ARTIST EVER!
~God bless you Michael~
Little Lady, I done told you I eat right. Eat'n right dern't include no "shit-eaten" – is that too hard fer yer li'll head to ponder on? Shit-eaten is what queer-folk like Michael Jackson does.
Most regular folks know that thar anus is a one-way design. It ain't made ta have nothin stuck up in it. But, them queer-folk like that Jackson boy, and some gals who been daddy-raped, they's somethin wrong with them. These here folks got thar sexual compass all broke up. They's playin with 1/2 a deck – think they call 'em sexual retards….or sextards.
In your zeal to continually (& pathetically I might add) get in the last word & to heighten your over inflated "ego", & whatever little cleverness, you seem to THINK that you have, you keep making an utter fool of yourself. Altho I am a "Little Lady" to those who love me, I am definitely not yours. Please do not refer to me as such, for you have in no way, shape, fashion, or form EARNED the right to be this familiar. I also have no idea why you are still talking to me, for I no longer wish to correspond w/ some1 of the likes of you & your ilk. In fact, w/ the exception of the "little lady" part, I didn't even read the rest of your response. Sorry for your WASTED efforts.
Should you have some desperate need to get in the last word, you may do so. I on the other hand will not be writing back because I have more important things to do, & YOU certainly are not 1 of them. I have said my piece on this subject & in intend to let MJ rest. You, however, who seem to be SO obsessed w/ the sex life of a man who NEVER KNEW YOU (praise Jesus) & who has been dead for almost 5 months, clearly shows that YOU are the 1 w/ the problem & that YOU are the 1 who must be suffering from the pangs of unsatisfied & unrequited "MJ Lust".
You may now return to your diarrhea soup. (& Would you PLEASE, Ricardovitz, for the love of criminey, take a napkin & wipe the loose bowels, from your even looser saggy jowls!) Bon Appetit!
I'm out.
– Robyn
Michael Jackson was indeed addicted to drugs and he admitted that! He was not Gay nor was he a pedofile and I can't believe how people judge him so harshly. I had no idea God died and left them in charge to be judge!
Well, gal, I dern't mean no disrespect to ya. If'n I knew you'd get all riled up and plumb crazy over bein called "Little Lady",I'd done treated you with tender kidd gloves.
I reckon some folks, they can go round judgin folks, callin them "obsessed" claimin folks got "MJ Lust", tellin folks they is "shit-eaters" and got "loose bowles on thar saggy jowls", but if'n anyone refer to them as "Little Lady", they jest break down, go plumb crazy and cry like a madwoman. I guess that's what them drug-guzzlin liberals call "political correct".
So, gal, I'm gonna forgive you, since thats just the kind a person I am. Since you ain't molested little boys like that thar Michael Jackson did, nor done no evil nevermind that I know nothin of, thar ain't no reason fer me to get all sassy with ya – specially if it's so upsettin to ya. I ain't one to make fair gals cry – that's just plain sinnful.
I don't think Michael Jackson is gay because in a song called bad he made it sounds like gay i don't know why but he looks like a women and he moves his front butt alot it almost made me want to vomit but michael jackson is so funny i hope you live again Michael Jackson because you use to be a jehovah witness and iam a jehovah witness too so i hope you are alive again please i want to see you in personso i will see you in paradise Bye.
Michael Jackson is not gay to me any ways iam so right i serch on web and he is not gay at all so Michael Jackson Rest In Peace i will see you in paradise bye.
People write music not just for themselves but for the public @ large. There have been many gay artist who wrote songs for women, but were thinking of their male lovers @ the time. … Oh & about "paradise" thing… heh, not if I get to him 1st.
That's right – Michael Jackson is as queer as they come. He's a certofied homosexual. Ain't no debatin that. Men who sleep with and diddle lill boys – they's homosexuals. Michael Jackson, he's a homosexual and a pedophile.
But, y'all keep on praising thar kiddy-diddler. Dern't worry none 'bout them li'll kids whos lives are all messed up. Poor, poor Michael – had evarythang he evar wanted, and still couldn't leave li'll boys alone.
Jest so's I dern't have ta listen to Jackson-mollestation deniers call me a liar, here's jest one fact fer ya:
"On September 3, 2004, "Dateline NBC" correspondent Josh Mankiewicz investigated allegations that more than one boy accused Michael Jackson of abuse in 1993, and how the case has been kept quiet until now. "Dateline NBC" learned what evidence authorities had against Michael Jackson, as well as details about the civil case against him that have remained sealed in the basement of the Los Angeles county courthouse for more than a decade. Jackson's accuser swore in a declaration filed in the civil suit against Jackson:
"Michael Jackson masturbated me many times both with his hand and with his mouth. Michael Jackson told me that I should not tell anyone what happened. He said this was a secret."
Has any1 else wondered why this Ricardovitz guy has been obsessing over the sex life of a man who's been dead for almost 5 months? Pretty strange…
"Has any1 else wondered why this Ricardovitz guy has been obsessing over the sex life of a man who's been dead for almost 5 months? Pretty strange…"
The only person obsessed 'round here seems ta be you, Lady. You already done said ya weren't talkin to me no more. And I'm good with that – done appologized and all to ya and planned not ta git ya all cross-wised again.
But, now here ya go again. Sayin I'm obsessed with the sex life of a dead man, and you know that ain't so. I wanna make sure while y'all is yipp'n and yapp'n bout how much you love this here Michael Jackson…that you know you is lovin someone who sides with thar Devil by sleepin with and molestin li'll boys, by imbibin in thar Devil Elixirs, and by treatin people cruely. So, Lady, you keep on turnin a blind eye to evil and love and celebrate your Devil. I'm a sure Satan loves you too.