Gayle King spilled some major tea today on CBS This Morning.
According to Oprah‘s BFF, Prince Harry has spoken to his dad, Charles, and brother, William, since last week’s bombshell interview and things didn’t go well.
The Prince told King the conversations were “not productive,” which everyone knows is British for “it went really, really f*cking badly.”
“I’m not trying to break news, but I did actually call them to see how they were feeling,” King said. “And it’s true, Harry has talked to his brother and he has talked to his father, too. The word I was given was that those conversations were ‘not productive.’ But they are glad they have at least started a conversation.”
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But, King added, “No one in the royal family has talked to Meghan yet.”
Honestly, is anyone surprised about that?
.@GayleKing checked in with Prince Harry & Meghan this weekend:
“Harry has talked to his brother and he has talked to his father, too. The word I was given was those conversations were not productive. But they are glad that they have at least started a conversation.” pic.twitter.com/fe0ATukkYw
— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) March 16, 2021
“What is still upsetting to them is the palace keeps saying they want to work it out privately,” King continued, “but they believe all these false stories keep coming out that are very disparaging against Meghan still.”
“I think it’s frustrating for them to see it’s a racial conversation about the royal family when all they wanted all along was for the royals to intervene and tell the press to stop with the unfair, inaccurate, false stories that definitely have a racial slant.”
“Until you can acknowledge that, I think it’s going to be hard to move forward.”
King said the couple wants “healing” because “at the end of the day, that is Harry’s family.”
But, should the royal family choose to go a different route, King said, “Meghan has documents to back up everything that she said on Oprah’s interview.”
“Everything.”
Catholicslutbox
Meghan is black?
And why should we care about them? Almost all of us aren’t even British nor does this have anything to do with the gays.
Leash
Dont pretend that you’re dumber then you are just to be racist. YEAH guess what? Lightskinned black people are still black. :O
The stereotypical gay loves Princess Diana*, Oprah and gossip in general.
If you really do not care you can choose to not click on the article or even go further showing you disinteresst by not commenting on it.
*who is – and you might already know this – connected to the royal family and one of her sons is the husband of Meghan.
Roy Moss
Gayle King is hardly unbiased here. Both she and Oprah constantly jump on the band wagon every time someone claims racism, whether it’s true or not. Further, she keeps spouting about all of this documentary evidence that Markle has yet neither King or anyone else has produced anything of the sort.
Markle has some credibility issues herself. Her family doesn’t like her, his family doesn’t like her. Doesn’t it stand to reason the she is at least part of the problem? She and the dunce fled the UK supposedly to escape the media yet they moved to the most media infested place in the world and certainly dont shy away from the U.S. media. Heck, both she and Harry would probably run the streets naked from dawn to dusk if they though it would bring them positive press. The truth of the matter is probably that Markle is just another American gold digger who married that idiot for cash and prestige and fame and then when the Brits didn’t fall for her little act, she decided to get some revenge by trying to topple the monarchy. Her husband is obviously puzzy whipped and has never been mistaken for being intelligent. It’s time people stopped believing everything that those two have to claim and start taking it all with a grain of salt. This woe is me tale from two spoiled, entitled graspers is getting really old.
GlobeTrotter
Well said, you hit the nail squarely on the head! I can’t believe how many people have blindly bought into this racism story without a moment’s thought, just because it confirms their bias of a rich, white family oppressing helpless black people. It seems that so many people nowadays are willfully ignorant and simply refuse to use their brains to think rationally and critically. It took all of 5 minutes of critical thought for me to conclude that the stories from that interview were either fabricated or had very limited basis in reality. If the Royal Family were racist, Meghan would not have been allowed to marry Prince Harry in the first place, PERIOD. She wouldn’t have been showered with expensive clothes, expensive jewelry, given royal titles, given a staff of royal secretaries, royal nannies, royal valets, royal chauffeurs, cooks, maids, etc. to cater to her every whim if the Royal Family were racist. They also would not have paid for that lavish wedding (to the tune of over 30 million pounds!), invited black people from all the U.S. and the U.K to feature prominently in the wedding, allowed black gospel music to be performed plus other black performers, none of this would have happened if the Royal Family were racist. When Meghan’s own father was unable to walk her down the aisle, Prince Charles volunteered and from all accounts, he treated her like the daughter he never had. As a matter of fact, it was Prince Charles that financed her lavish lifestyle while she resided in the UK. None of that would have happened if the Royal Family were racist. They gave her a palace, plus a “cottage” for her own private residence. And when she demanded $3 million to renovate the cottage (apparently it was not up to her personal standards), she received it. Again, none of this would have happened, if the Royal Family were racist. Meghan was also made a SENIOR member of the Royal Family, which meant everyone except the Queen and her husband, Prince William and his family, had to BOW in her presence! None of this would have been possible, if the Royal Family were racist.
Yet when she couldn’t get her way (she wanted to wear Diana’s tiara at her wedding, she wanted to run her household like she was in California, etc) she separated Prince William from his family, made him leave the family business, spirited him away to California and is using his family’s name and her royal titles to make a gazillion dollars. Not only that, she’s using stories of racism to blackmail the Royal Family into silence, and everywhere people are falling for this, left, right and center.
Think, people! THINK!
Ginger Tom
What a relief to find someone else who doesn’t just blindly accept whatever Meghan says. It astonishes me how few people can recognise a hustler when they see one. So many people have swallowed Meghan’s nonsense hook, line and sinker it defies belief. Was no one in the Royal Family able to work out what was going on? Just because Harry was too stupid to see what he was letting himself in for it doesn’t mean they all had to go along with it.
Cam
Funny how whenever there’s a story about Meghan we get all these accounts that seem to blame her for multiple racist stories coming out about her.
And the Royal family? Racist?? Gasp, what a shock, the fact that Princess Michael of Kent was allowed to wear a racist broach the first time she met Meghan, and the papers that follow the Royals lead came out with one racist story after another pretty much shows where the Royal family stands.
mastik8
Agreed but logic and common sense are in short supply. Despite coming from a family full of Nazi supporters (Who may have provided Harry with all those Nazi uniforms he loves to don) wasn’t it Harry who referred to someone as a “Paki”? He then tried, in vain ultimately, to say it was OK because they were friends and he had always referred to him by that name. Sadly for Harry, by trying to avoid what happened to his mother he is recreating it, and with a woman who seems to prefer being disliked to liked. I guess bad attention is better than no attention. Better to be reviled rather than ignored, no? You could set your clocks to her victimhood.
cuteguy
Meghan has her receipts.Good for her. The royal family is racist. It’s not a shock to anyone w/common sense. Princess Diana tried to bring openness to the royal family and they killed her. So glad Harry protected his wife. She would’ve prob meant the same fate. Harry is a true prince. William is a buck tooth balding goof who has a stiff for a wife.
Doug
Whether this is really a racial issue or not is unproven at this point. I’m in the US, and while I watched the interview I kept thinking about how it all sounded like a repeat of what Diana went through. The Royal Family is a very strong institution in the UK and a lot of the country’s history revolves around it. I can see how they might feel like they’ve been made to look like fools by an interview with Oprah Winfrey and MM on American television. I couldn’t help but also wonder if Harry is taking the stance he is because he’s seeing the struggle his mother went through before she passed away, and that has to be painful.
Cam
@Doug
I think it’s pretty proven. The headlines from the exact same tabloids, one praising Kate for the same thing they attack Meghan for, over and over and over.
Leash
@Cam no doubt the royals have a racism problem, but the example you gave only proves that certain UK tabloids are racist.
hassia
@GlobeTrotter “Meghan was also made a SENIOR member of the Royal Family, which meant everyone except the Queen and her husband, Prince William and his family, had to BOW in her presence!”. Shows how much you know. The children of the queen also the children of Andrew do not have to bow to Meghan. She has rank when Harry is with her, none when she is alone with the family . “They gave her a palace, plus a “cottage” for her own private residence. And when she demanded $3 million to renovate the cottage (apparently it was not up to her personal standards)”, Frogmore cottage belongs to the Crown repairs were needed whether she moved there or not. You really need to stop reading the Daily Fail.
GlobeTrotter
SO WHAT??? Even if that is true, how does it prove that the Royal Family is racist?? They bent over backwards to welcome her into the family and made her a princess, a duchess, a countess, a baroness, etc. – that doesn’t strike me as the behavior of a racist family.
wooly101
So sick of Markle and her wining.
rand503
Ditto. She married someone worth millions, gets all the publicity she wants, and she is complaining because the paparazzi were mean to her. She is America’s Number 1 whiner, but if you don’t fall for his nonsense, you are labeled a racist.
Leash
i wont label u guys racist, but i will say that you come across envious and unempathic.
Heywood Jablowme
Hey, I get what’s going on here! You guys are all multiple screen names of CAM, who is going to show up in a few minutes to declare that anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with Meghan is a racist and a misogynist and a right-winger and not even a real gay person!
Cam
It’s cute that every time I expose a new batch of your right wing troll screenames, one of your troll accounts comes out with the BRILLIANT “I know you are but what am I?” defenses.
It’s also cute to see how obsessed you are with me. I hadn’t spoken to you on here and yet you made an entire off topic post….just about me.
Your troll game is weak, and you are obsessed.
Heywood Jablowme
QUEERTY, please ban Cam/DCguy for his near-daily violations of the Queerty comment policy. Most of his comments are “mean-spirited” (as the policy says), nasty and irrational. His extreme obsession with “multiple screenames,” with which he hijacks innumerable threads, is obviously projection since he has done that himself. Due to his distinctive writing style – “sweetie,” “oh look” and the obsession with multiple screen names – it was obvious DCguy was Cam and he’s never explained that. Queerty probably has access to our IP addresses and could confirm that some of these supposed “right-wing” accounts are Cam/DCguy arguing with himself.
Invader7
Who the PHUCK cares? M& H are old news..They’re boring,whiny ,spolied media WHORES !!!
Fahd
Also, it doesn’t seem too difficult to understand how the Palace staff could possibly have come up with the nickname “Megain” for the Duchess of Sussex.
Manrico Jimenez
Good ‘ol Miss Thang!
laurent7465
The truly sad thing about all of this bickering, trashing H&M, professing truths and so on…is that NONE of us were there. So none of you have any proof to back up your personal opinions and gossip. Most of you are no better than the horrible tabloids. Why don’t you do us all a favor and keep your opinions to yourselves until the actual truth is discovered. Stop perpetuating the lies that have been repeated over and over and over. We don’t like it when people keep repeating the same old S hit about us that we know is untrue.
Cam
We don’t have to be there, we saw the tabloids that praised Kate and William for eating avocados, and then ran a headline that by liking Avocados Meghan was contributing to global child abuse.
It doesn’t take a geniurs.
Kangol2
@Globetrotter, you seem to mistake the performative actions of the British royal family for the reality of who it is and what is has done for hundreds–thousands–of years. First, regarding the current Windsors, Queen Elizabeth’s uncle, the abdicated Edward VIII, was an ardent supporter of Hitler, as was his wife, American Wallis Simpson. He was sent to be the governor of Bahamas to keep him out of Hitler’s clutches, but Hitler had plans to make him a puppet monarch had he been able to overrun the UK in World War II. QE2’s mother, Queen Mary, also supported Hitler (at first), and you can find a short film (Google it), of Prince Edward, Queen Elizabeth II (then a girl), her sister Margaret, and Queen Mary (who was from a Scottish aristocratic family) giving a Nazi salute.
In addition, Queen Elizabeth II’s husband, Prince Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh, though a Greek prince, is essentially German (like her), and had several in-laws who were active Nazi supporters. Two of his brothers-in-law fought on the German side. Over the years, Philip has made notoriously racist statements, and Charles is not known for being especially enlightened on race either. In fact, the entire “firm” was horrified by Princess Diana’s famous–infamous–visit to NYC, during which she spent time among poor African Americans in Harlem and the Lower East Side, and embraced Black children with HIV and AIDS. That was not the only time they were unhappy with her much more open attitudes about race, including dating an Arab man at the time she died. Another relative, Princess Michael of Kent, is literally the daughter of a former Nazi official, and outrageously wore the Blackamoor brooch to a luncheon honoring Meghan, an act she later claimed was an oversight.
As for Harry, let’s not forget he once thought it charming to show up at a party wearing a swastika; I gather he has since become a lot more enlightened about such things. When it comes to the royal family historically and the UK in particular, it has one of the worst records of colonialism and imperialism anywhere on the globe. Britain colonized every corner of the earth, from Asia to the Middle East to Africa to the Americas to Australia and New Zealand, and its history of horrific racist brutality (along with its legacy of some of the worst legalized homophobia) would give any other country a run for its money. With regard to slavery alone, the British monarchy has quite a bit to answer for. At any rate, I will note that Prince Harry himself noted the racism, not just Meghan Windsor. So clearly even he was appalled at what he dealt with and witnessed, and I don’t think he was lying. I also do believe Meghan has receipts; given how relentlessly she was attacked by the tabloids, I’m sure she realized she had better have some paper backup. Were the British monarchy post-QE2 not potentially on somewhat shaky ground, I doubt these revelations would be worth commenting on at all.
thiesan
Thank you for the history lecture, but a few of your facts are not correct. For example, Queen Mary was QE2’s grandmother, not her mother. Additionally, the video of the Nazi salute that you refer to was well before people new what a monster Hitler would become, so you frame it in a manner that is disingenuous and misleading. Just a sampling of how some things were not correct, I did not want to analyse the entire thing.
GlobeTrotter
What you’ve described is applicable to every single white family. People were far more racist in the past than they are today – that says nothing however, about their present frame of mind. Society has changed drastically in the last 50 or so years, and what was acceptable then, is clearly no longer acceptable now. That being said, I don’t see how the incidents you mentioned prove that the Royal Family is a racist institute TODAY.
Case in point, I am a black, my father is black, but my mother is half Korean, basically very light skinned in complexion. My aunt related to me that when my mother was pregnant, my grandmother (my father’s mother) was elated at the thought of getting a “brown” grandchild. She basically treated the pregnancy as her own. On the day of my birth, my grandmother waited with baited breath, anticipating a brown baby with curly hair and brown eyes, etc. Imagine her shock when I had the audacity to be born black! That’s the sort of racism in the black community that nobody talks about, but which was much more common then in the 70’s. Nowadays things are different. My grandmother is sensible enough never to utter such outdated sentiments today, but back then, society didn’t bat an eye. Society changes, and people change with the times.
Gadfeal
First of all, it’s none of my business – but it is of import to the current British royal family, and to the implication for the future role of a useful tourist attraction, and a societal symbolism, depending upon perspective. I also cannot judge when it is 3rd hand, and I do not know the full circumstances.
However, it is a “teachable moment”, as Ms Obama noted; regardless of the particulars of that couple, I do note that everything is (mis)interpreted as an unintended form of racial bias against Black-ness. I do realize that the wounds of systemic, legal and societal anti-Black racism, only explicitly addressed as barely two generations ago, are “fresh”. However, I honestly believe that most Americans are not intentionally anti-Black i.e. the difficulties Black Americans face in society are there, but they are not insurmountable. The biggest impediment is internalized self-defeatist mentality. The most manifest evidence of that is the disproportionate percent of 20th Century Black immigrants (and following generations) who have been in the very highest levels of government and politics, and, less known, occupying numerous positions in academia and scientific institutions.
There are two “third party” perspectives, of which I have become aware: 1) Recent, qualified Black immigrants (from the Caribbean or from Africa) who chose to move to the US, and who were among the most educated/skilled of their own countries, and 2) Black Americans who have expatriated to countries without a history of diverse immigration.
In the late 20th Century, there has been “qualified” immigration from both Africa and the Caribbean by those with skills, and/or higher education. These people are among the brightest of their home nations, and, it seems, that intelligence is not a function of the size or location of country of birth. A disproportionate percent of “prominent” (politicians, and leaders) Blacks in the US are from this 20th Century Black immigration “wave”. To mention just the most evident among politicians: Barak Obama (father was PhD economist from Kenya); Colin Powell (son of Jamaican immigrants); Eric Holder (Barbadian ancestry); VP Kamala Harris (daughter of Indian PhD, and Jamaican PhD), Shirley Chrisholm (West Indian parents), Stokely Carmichael (Trinidad), Sidney Poitier (Bahamian), Malcolm X (mother Grenadian). Highly educated Africans are also in many positions in universities and scientific fields, although their names are not generally known. One of the most intelligent is President of Howard University, Wayne Frederick from Trinidad, a genius had to wait two years to get into Howard University at age 16! (Two years after completing his high school). He became a surgeon and oncologist before taking on roles at Howard.
More anecdotally, I’ve indirectly learned of lengthy written pieces by expatriate Black Americans. Like a half brother of Barak Obama who lives in Shenzen with his Chinese wife, one such person wrote from Shanghai, where until a generation ago, Black people were so uncommon that Chinese people would stare and even hold their children to see what a Black person looked like. He replied to a question if his life in China was very hard, that “Being Black anywhere in the world is not easy. For many Africans, there isn’t much opportunity, flailing economies, tribal strife, and cruel regimes. However, as an American Black, I was brought up to live in a state of constant alertness to the physical risk, in addition to social impediments, of being Black in the US; nonetheless, I doubt that many Black Americans would leave even a modest existence in the US and brave moving to Africa. In China, I don’t get many stares in the bigger cities, and, despite the occasionally stereotypical attitudes, the Chinese are not inherently racist towards foreigners.”
Another person who moved to Germany, claimed that there is the occasional outrageous comment (in German that she understands), but after meeting Germans, they got to know her as a person, not as a label, and feels much safer and part of general society than in the US. I remember meeting a mixed race German (Black American father, brought up in Germany), who got his fill one day when someone went on a rant about the “Black devil” in a restaurant, and addressed the person that, “I may be Black, but nowhere near as your heart.” The person wanted to sink into the ground!
Yet, another, who moved to Nigeria (in a nice job), said that she was always second guessing in the US as to what people’s intent or motives were towards her as a “Black person”, but, for all the hassles of Nigeria, she was at least judged as a “woman”.
Cam
The lie that the British Royal family pays for itself because they’re a tourist attraction is the biggest P.R. lie that their staff has been able to put out.
France gets FAR more tourists to it’s former royal areas etc, that Britain does. And people can pay to go in to them, ALL without having to support a royal family with tax dollars.
Tourists would still come to Britain without the royal family, and they could make more money by charging them to tour the former residences etc.
They are a drain on the economy.
Milton
Since when did society accept that ine side of a story equals the truth. No one is unbiased when telling “their story.”
Frankly this is a non story about people who enjoy the spotlight and should be relegated to the depths of entertainment rags.
Mr. Stadnick
Here Here!
James (controversial2019)
It is very evident that the UK press had double standards when it came to Catherine and Meghan.
As Cam has mentioned; the Avocado situation (Catherine was fine, Meghan criticised).
There was also the Baby Bump situation (Catherine was fine cradling, Meghan was attention-seeking).
Nobody can deny that there have been double standards. But I have yet to see anything to suggest or prove it was due to being mixed race.
Maybe it was because she was American (like Simpson; white)
Maybe it was because she was divorcee (like Simpson; white)
Maybe it was because she was an actress
Maybe it was because of a myriad of other reasons
And of COURSE, there’s the option of maybe it was because of racism
But what I want to know is where is the indication or proof that it was race fuelled rather than anything else? Why is it inconceivable that people disliked her for anything OTHER than her skin colour?
Is anyone able to point me towards any articles or headlines which indicate or prove racism (genuine request; not a challenge).
If nobody is able to point me, can anyone explain why, out of all the reasons there could be for the press to dislike her, you have decided that THE reason was racism? And please don’t use the “Archie’s skin colour” argument. As I’ve expressed elsewhere, both my brother and I are mixed race (darker than Meghan) and when my brother’s partner (white) was pregnant (both times) we all discussed and speculated whether the baby would be lighter than my brother, same as the mother, same as my brother, darker than my brother. It’s a fairly normal thing to discuss.
xflare
So Harry and Meghan sued the Daily Mail for printing the letter her father owned because of privacy issues, yet here they are leaking the details of private phone conversations to the press.