Vasco Moulian is a Chilean TV producer and host. He’s appeared on several Chilean reality shows as a guest judge and commentator, and he hosted a late night talk show for several years called Sin Dios Ni Late.
During a recent appearance on the show Zona de Estrellas de Zona Latina, 48-year-old Moulian opened up a time he found himself falling in love with another man back in the 1990s.
“He is a person that attracted me,” he said. “I was in theater school at the time. I was heterosexual. But I liked Pablo Illanes a lot.”
Illanes is an openly gay Chilean screenwriter and the creator of several hugely successful telenovelas, as well as the HBO series Prófugos. He has over 30 TV and film credits to his name.
When he’s not writing hit television programs, he’s posting thirst traps of himself and his boyfriend on Instagram.
Moulain explained that he and Illanes “spent time” together when they were in their 20s, although he didn’t elaborate and what exactly they did during that time, other than travel all over the place.
“I found him so talented and we traveled together to Europe, Barcelona, New York,” he recalled, adding that Illanes was “cute and tender” and that it felt like “love.”
“But I was always afraid,” he recalled, though he “didn’t really understand why.”
When asked if he’s ever spoken about his feelings for Illanes before, Moulain, who is now married to a woman and has two kids, replied, “It’s the first time I’ve said it.”
And when asked if he still had feelings for him, Moulain simply said, “I have a lot of affection and a lot of respect for Pablo.”
Graham Gremore is the Features Editor and a Staff Writer at Queerty. Follow him on Twitter @grahamgremore.
Donston
The dude didn’t say he was “straight”. He said he was “heterosexual”. And he could have been speaking in past tense. But I guess if you had used his actual phrasing in the headline, then you wouldn’t have been able to use “straight” as clickbait and fantasy fodder. And of course, that’s of upmost importance.
I know the horse has long been dead, but we need to accept that “sexuality” is a rather individual thing, that many people experience degrees of fluidity or contradictions, and that the gender, romantic, sexual, affection, emotional investment, relationship fulfillment spectrum is incredibly varied. If we accepted that then folks (particularly dudes) wouldn’t have to keep stuff like that in for so long. And maybe we would stop being so damn obsessed with people’s sex lives, stop thinking everyone’s life and love and commitments needs to be mostly driven by sex, and stop being obsessed with who’s supposed to be “gay” or “straight” or “bi” or whatever.
kumagiri
Can I ask you a genuine question? What’s the difference between “Straight” and “Heterosexual”? Because I pretty much used them both as synonyms my entire life.
ShiningSex
The reason it’s important when one comes out or speaks of same sex love/affection is to show the public at large just how many people are not “straight”/”heterosexual”.
The more visible the more people can realize it’s all around them and they need to accept that it’s not a choice and let people be who they are. That’s why!
Donston
Kumagiri, all people seem to use these identities differently and have their own specific meanings. So, it’s almost impossible to say exactly what means what nowadays. For example “gay” identifying males fit into a variety of categories: true and thorough homosexual, “mostly” homosexual, homosexual but “adventurous” and hyper-sexual and willing to “experiment”, homosexual but not homo-romantic, homo-romantic but not homosexual, overall homo-leaning when it comes to the romantic/sexual/affection/emotional investment/relationship commitment spectrum, dudes who are only turned on by “masculinity”, dudes who are only turned on by male identifying people, dudes who are only into people with penises, guys who feel more connected and “gay culture” and “queers” and take comfort in that, guys who have experienced fluidity or still are but “feel ‘gay”. And so on.
It’s apparent that some of these dudes who say that they’re “straight” are aware that they’re not heterosexual. While some of these dudes feel that they are “technically” heterosexual, but they don’t feel “straight”. All of that is fine. The issue lies with people using identities to conceal shame, resentment and/or fear or as an ego boost. Then there’s people (and places like this one) who use identities and other people’s behaviors for fetishistic and attention reasons. But we haven’t gotten to a place of accepting that everyone has their own thing going on, their own dimensions, motivations, struggles and journeys. Nor have we gotten to a place where everyone feels they can be themselves and love and be with whoever they wish. So, we’re gonna keep seeing identities and “labels” used for nonsense.
Cam
@Donston said “Kumagiri, all people seem to use these identities differently and have their own specific meanings. So, it’s almost impossible to say exactly what means what nowadays.”
Except, as usual, you cannot provide any proof. No, people typically do not use “Straight” and “Heterosexual” differently.
Also, you are welcome to point out how using his exact wording would have made the article any different.
Den
“Kumagiri, all people seem to use these identities differently and have their own specific meanings.”
Since primates gained the ability to speak and languages evolved, agreement on word meaning has been the way we effect concise communication. You may want to assume that people have their own specific meanings for word, but this reflects your specific agenda, and not people in general. When a man refers to himself as straight you may be certain that it means either he does not use recreational drugs or sees himself as heterosexual. In the sense of sexual desire and pair bonding straight is a synonym for heterosexual. Nothing nebulous about it.
All your subsets and subtle variations simply serve your desire to see all men as potentially available to some degree. Not dissimilar to the old and outdated paradigm that “all people are naturally bisexual”, so popular in the 70’s and 80’s but never demonstrably true.
Donston
Why do you have to be so damn messy and bitter, Cam/DCguy? Someone merely asked a question, and here you come with the BS. What do you want “proof” of? That a lot of people use these identities differently and have their own personal definitions? That sexuality, gender, sense of self, the orientation spectrum and general motivations are incredibly varied? You really need proof of that stuff? This article may be proof of that. One-third of articles posted here are proof of that. Social media is proof. If you have a life and interact with a bunch of different people, you can easily find “proof”. If you do any real “queer” research you can find “proof”. You might not like how many people use identities. But it is what it is.
I’m tired of arguing about the same topics with you. I’m tired of your bitterness. And I’m tired of all you having to offer is shame. I’m tired of you not being able to see anything beyond identities and sexual behaviors. I think it’s best that we go back to simply not responding to each other. Our agendas, experiences, perspectives and education are on different levels. It just needs to be left at that. You and all those other threatened lames need to stop responding to my shit, and everything will be cool. At least ShiningSex is so ridiculous and offers some entertainment value.
Donston
Den, no one sees all men as “available”. The majority of men who say that they’re “straight” are indeed heterosexual and entirely or very hetero-leaning when it comes to the romantic, sexual, affection, emotional investment, commitment spectrum. However, people have been using language their own way since language was a thing. And folks have always and continues to use these identities based on things like actuality, preferences, practicality, ego and sociology. It ain’t nothing new.
It’s like some of y’all are really threatened by how varied and individual sexuality, the orientation spectrum, mentality, motivations, love, relationships can be. Stop being so damn threatened and actually learn some shit. Hell, some of y’all still don’t even believe in fluidity to any extent. So, there’s almost no point in having any back and forths.
Josh447
Cam /Den,
You guys got it right, of course. Any rational person would. Heterosexual and straight mean the same thing. No need to confuse or muck it up with one attention whores interpretation that these definitions are somehow hacked into a million little pieces, most likely reflective of the soap box pontificators brain status. Of course no proof. Very Trumpian.
As judge Judy says “keep it simple stupid”.
kumagiri
@Donston Thank you so much for the answer! And also for keeping it polite. I completely get your point now.
Thanks again!
AxelDC
So he’s a Kinsey 1 or 2. This isn’t a novel concept.
ShiningSex
He’s not straight, that’s for sure.
If he’s never been with a guy, then bicurious.
Who cares?
Fahd
This story reminds me of a plot line from the Almodovar movie, Pain & Glory with Antonio Banderas. Is it part of the age-old cultural difference between Mediterranean and Northern European cultures? It seems easier for a man from a Mediterranean culture to identify as straight despite having had a long-term boyfriend. Maybe the denial is just more powerful (and acceptable) in “macho” cultures.
Kangol2
The boyfriend is really cute!
Troyfight
@Kangol2 he is cute …reminds me of a past sexy porn performer: Jeremy Tucker
Donston
This dude seems like he may be expressing some regret towards not unabashedly perusing a relationship with someone that he felt that he fell in love with. All because he was heterosexual or “felt” heterosexual or “straight” or just because simply didn’t want to be “out” and have people looking at him like he was “gay”. That’s perhaps the crux of the issue here.
Leo
Been with so many guys that said they were straight. Some get f**ked some go down and some just lie there and let you blow them with nothing in return. Some will kiss and some will make out and some will think that makes them gay. Personally I think it lies with preference and is on a sliding scale. Or to sum up what I think is Dunston’s point, to each his own.
Donston
The dude is talking about falling in love though, not just variations of hook ups, which to me makes it a bit more interesting. Honestly, if dudes weren’t so scared of what is supposed to be “gay” and if more people truly understood sexuality, psychology and the orientation spectrum instead of depending entirely on identities or their dimensions or their fantasies, then a lot of this BS wouldn’t be a thing. And there’d be a lot of honesty and understanding. But we’re still contending with a lot of basic shit like homophobia, hetero pressures, toxic masculinity and “gay” insecurities. So, there’s still a ways to go.
cuteguy
This guy is obviously fluid but is living in archaic times if he doesn’t know that already. This Gen X guy needs to stop being so ignorant like so many from his generation. Thank God for younger generations who helped evolve their older counterparts.
Troyfight
Debate all you want… I for one am glad he shared this – compared to the COMMONPLACE of not sharing at all. Plus, my lusting heart enjoys imagining them flip flopping and shooting white ropes, doing the “O” face.
Winsocki
Why is it always male dominated usages. Women are heterosexual ans Str8 but I know so many who bounce back and forth. Str8 to me is not heterosexual. Stri seems more gender leaning and heterosexual more sexual orientation. Both are flexible. And I have to laugh LOL hahaha that Evangelicals should celebrate that marriage is between a man and a woman and use Nat Getty and G.G. Goode as and example only Nat was born a woman now a man and G.G. was born a man and now a woman so they both are and always were the opposite sex and now a fine example of Christian Marriage. Praise Be.
Res1
Guys like this make me sick and I fear if I come in contact with one I just might kill him. Just imagine having deep feelings for a guy, possibly marriage and kids, and then he pulls some shit like this¿ this is why I don’t do trade, not even in the lonely hour.