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Even More Straight Guys Talk About Being Gay Porn Stars In “I’m A Porn Star” Doc

tumblr_m99gcgYEwL1qami9to1_1280In an ongoing effort to completely shatter the fourth wall of the porn industry and bring you deeper into the lives of the straight men who get off on turning you on, TLA has announced a new documentary that does just that.

“I’m A Porn Star” follows the stories of self-identified straight performers Colby Jansen, Rocco Reed, and Johnny Rapid, and gay superstar Brent Everett, and their relationships with their careers as sex workers.

According to the film’s release:

“Each speak candidly about their experiences as highly lusted-after sexual icons, what they like when the cameras aren’t rolling and grant complete access behind the scenes of their shoots.

I’m a Porn Star is a portrait of people who work in adult entertainment, a business bigger than the music industry. As the story unfolds, it will deliver insight into the personal lives of guys working in pornography, their loves, their hopes and their dreams.  It’s time to get closer to the action than ever before.”

Apparently people really love straight guys in gay porn? The obsession was investigated in “Straight Guys” earlier this year and again this week on Broke Straight Boys.

Check out the trailer below:

I’m A Porn Star is will be available for purchase in the TLA Video store on Saturday, September 9.

By:           Matthew Tharrett
On:           Aug 23, 2014
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  • 67 Comments
    • Stache99
      Stache99

      I don’t understand gay guys fascination with straight guys in porn. I’d rather jack off to paint drying.

      Maybe I’d make a better lesbian where passion and emotions are required and not just a drug enhanced dick and passionless sex with a bunch of fake acting.

      I’ll probably still watch it though;)

      Aug 23, 2014 at 2:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @Stache99: Amen, I am so sick of gay for pay. So “versatile” Johnny Rapid is straight? Gah. There goes another of my favorites. I was glad to see that the video is not JUST about straight guys in gay porn tho. Some of those guys actually are openly gay or bi.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 2:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • IJelly
      IJelly

      Finding out a porn actor is straight kind of ruins it for me. When I see someone getting off doing something crazy I want to feel like they’re really getting off. The worst is when you can tell the actor is looking off-camera straight porn in the middle of a scene.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 2:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Thad1527
      Thad1527

      But are they interesting? Several years ago, I saw two documentaries about the making of gay porn films in successive years. “eXposed: The Making of a Legend” told the story of the video “Buckleroos” and involved people I enjoyed meeting, porn or otherwise. The next year had Michael Lucas regarding the making of his last film…..yawn.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 2:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @DarkZephyr: Yes he is “straight”, he constantly talks about his wife and children *cough shotgun wedding cough*. Colby Jansen is openly Bi, Johnny and Rocco are “straight” and Brent is actually gay. I’m with you i’m so sick of these “straight” guys who in gay porn, and how much they scream how straight they are in every interview etc. I mean seriously if you worried about people thinking your gay or bi then don’t make gay porn.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 2:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stache99
      Stache99

      “I’m weird. I could look at cars and get hard.” LOL

      Oh to be so young again. I don’t know about looking but riding in them sure got me hard.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 3:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @IJelly: Yes, I especially hate the scenes where you can HEAR the woman in the straight porn video they are watching, moaning. And I want the guys I am watching to be INTO what they are doing too. Yes.

      @JJ24: Colby Jansen is one of my favorites. Another is Samuel O’Toole, another openly bisexual performer. And amen to your last sentence.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 3:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Heyguy
      Heyguy

      Big power bottom like Johnny rapid is straight? wow.. Ruin me forever.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 3:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • QJ201
      QJ201

      Honey you ain’t a star if you gotta turn tricks on the side to pay the bills

      Aug 23, 2014 at 3:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • corey
      corey

      If Johnny Rapid is straight, then so am I. I know men can pretend they are not gay or bi when having sex with other men, in “real” life, porn or even for “convenience ” when locked up, but this is an idiotic notice. Johny is cute as a button, almost like a teen getting ready to become a man, then you see clips of his performances. I haven’t seen a butt hole stretched open like his is a while. I must admit, it is exciting to see a seen when a younger guy gets thrown into jail then forced to submit to another guy, so do many others, obviously, but if a performer is getting a hard on and having an orgasm…get real! They are at least bi-sexual. Plus, I don’t know of any woman in my personal life or anywhere else, that welcomes a man into their lives that got butt-fucked for a living, let alone marrying them. I could understand if he had been a straight porn actor or maybe even had gay sex in jail if only a top if its true love, but working for gay sex? Even Zeb Atlas eventually crossed the line from being muscle worshipped to having his dick sucked, and I’m sure he has sucked a few, I honestly don’t keep up with it anymore because its so easy to get porn. There wasn’t a time when this was so. So, I’ll step off my soap box now…. :)

      Aug 23, 2014 at 3:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      I stopped believing any of the performers in the gay porn biz were gay a long, long time ago. As far I’m concerned, when I hear “gay porn actor,” I immediately think “gay for pay.” Heck, I don’t even believe Brent Corrigan is really gay. It’s only the image he has created.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 4:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • enlightenone
      enlightenone

      @JJ24: Snap! I’m with DarkZaphyr, the main issue for me on this whole subject is your last sentence that is worth repeating, “I mean seriously if you worried about people thinking your gay or bi then don’t make gay porn.” And then these “money-making documentaries,” I call “just another GAY4PAY” video wouldn’t have any real value!

      Aug 23, 2014 at 5:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      The straight guy obsession is heavily built upon the fact that far too many gay guys put unattainable straight guys (who far outnumber us) way up on a pedestal, while at the same time they demean and diss perfectly hot and desirable other gay men. Example: “Oh, he’s cute till he opens his mouth and a purse falls out.”

      Aug 23, 2014 at 6:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lykeitiz
      lykeitiz

      This conversation will never be good for anything but a laugh. If you have sex with men, for whatever reason, and your d&ck gets hard, you’re at least Bi. PERIOD.

      Hearing them babble on otherwise is a joke, and I don’t care how many kids Johnny Rapid has birthed out of that over-stretched hole.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 6:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • redboy70
      redboy70

      It seems most of the commenters are holding porn performers to a ridiculous double standard. These men are performers whose job it is to create a character within a story, however thin it may be. The fact that the performer may be straight, bi or whatever is irrelevant to the performance. When a theater, television or film performer plays a character who is different than they actually, we celebrate it. So why all the judgement for porn performers? Tom Cruise isn’t really a spy, Meryl Streep isn’t a fashion editor and Chris Evans isn’t really a superhero, so why should a porn performer’s personal sexuality be thought of any differently?

      Aug 23, 2014 at 6:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @redboy70: My problem isn’t them being straight it’s the homophobic reaction they have when people call them gay. Oh and comparing acting to porn is like apples and oranges can’t be done.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 7:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Pistolo
      Pistolo

      To be honest, if you’re a guy who fucks guys for a paycheck even though you have not the slightest bit of genuine attraction to them, you’re disconcertingly out of touch with yourself. How can someone go to a place where it doesn’t matter WHO they are banging so long as they get paid? It’s almost sociopathic. Some people think it’s liberating to be “fluid” but I personally think it’s just an unhealthy way of denying yourself happiness.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 7:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mcflyer54
      mcflyer54

      @redboy70: when a regular actor playsa killer he doesn’t really kill people, when a regular actor plays a doctor he doesn’t ‘t really operate on people, when a real actor plays a rapist he doesn’t really rape people. However, when a “straight” guy plays gay (4pay) in porn he REALLY has honest to goodness sex with another guy … So the difference here is that while one is acting the other is performing. And I don’t know a single real actor who hires out as a killer, doctor or rapist off set but plenty of gay4pay “actors” ply their “trade” to anyone (and everyone) willing and able to shell out a couple hundred bucks an hour. I’m not down on porn actors whether gay, straight, bi or confused but most of their babble is crap and claiming “straight” is little more than a way to enhance their marketability.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 7:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • wpewen
      wpewen

      Why is it each day I look at this publication and the gay men seem to be further out in space? Again 56 yrs old, out at 18. After all these years, so much talk about porn. Why? Sure it’s great, but really discussing how straight guys feel about doing gay porn? Who the fuck cares? Boys, this is not even germane. Maybe the SF locale is part of it, but look to the future. There are big problems with porn, not the least of which with the absolute ready availability of it real people fade into the background. As much as I love Joe Gage, it’s still got a coldness to it. Use it myself, enjoy it. Can’t imagine caring whether straight guys are in it!

      Aug 23, 2014 at 8:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • BECQueerty
      BECQueerty

      My REAL straight guy friends say these guys aren’t straight. Bi, sure. But Kinsey scale-0 straight? No. It’s okay though. Porn is fantasy and some of these “straight” guys make some great man-on-man porn (let’s stop calling it ‘gay’ porn then). A good act is a good act and beautiful guys are beautiful guys.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 8:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • grrrrandy
      grrrrandy

      Geez, some guys take porn waaaaaaaay too seriously. It’s not any of you are ever going to date these dudes.

      To me a beautiful man is a beautiful man. I don’t care at all who they are attracted to off-screen. In fact, I’m thankful that gorgeous men are willing to have gay sex on film – you can’t get more gay-friendly than taking a giant dick up your ass.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 9:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • littletwin52000
      littletwin52000

      This over saturation of getting to know the people you jerk off to is really making me want to stop watching porn and go back to reading it. The more i hear about this johnny guy the less i like.

      Aug 23, 2014 at 9:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @grrrrandy: Except most of these G4P guys aren’t gay friendly, most of them are extremely homophobic.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 12:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      REALITY CHECK: If you’re a guy getting off on sex with another guy, at the bare minimum you are bisexual. If you’re excited enough to put your boner into another man’s asshole or accepting of a boner thrust into your asshole, or sucking on another guys penis….c’mon, who are you kidding? You’re not straight.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 12:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      @lykeitiz: So by your definition, that also means that any man who now identifies as gay but at any point in his life had sex with a woman is really bi. It’s ridiculous to make such sweeping generalities without considering the motivating factors and/or circumstances involved.

      @Kieran: Reality check for you: A prostitute (which is basically what a porn actor is, just with just a fancier title) who is getting paid to perform a sex act on another person does NOT have to be sexually attracted to that person in order to perform that act. That’s why they call it a “performance.”

      Aug 24, 2014 at 12:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bigrawtop
      bigrawtop

      @DarkZephyr: Actually only one of the four profiled performers is actually gay. The focus of the doc is Mendotcom where almost everyone is straight -the performers, the directors, the owners.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 12:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sansacro
      Sansacro

      @mcflyer54: Absolutely.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 1:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sansacro
      Sansacro

      @MMDD: We live in a straight world, which elevates heterosexuality and denigrates homosexuality. Many gay guys, when young, have sex with women, because they are trying to fit into that straight world.

      If however, as an out gay man, i was going to make straight porn films, and I can get hard, and come, I would definitely say that I have a bisexual side. Period. And more power to me.

      As for prostitution. A female prostitute doesn’t need to get hard to get screwed or give a blow job. A male prostitute must get hard (although he doesn’t always have to ejaculate). To get hard, and definitely to ejaculate, you must find the situation erotic in some way. People can be situationally aroused: they get off on the power of being paid for their body. But even if they get off on the situation, and it’s with a member of the same sex, they have a bisexual capacity. And, again, there is nothing wrong with it. Bisexual feelings are something many of us experience at some point. It may not even be constant or life long.

      Let’s stop making excuses for a homo- and bi-phobic culture.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 1:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DutchGay
      DutchGay

      I agree with Stache99. Although the actors in gay porn will not receive an Oscar (unless they are being topped by a guy named Oscar) for their acting, one will notice easily if the guys on screen are actually gay or not. Usually when the guy being fucked has a soft dick that’s a pretty clear indication. Also the overacting by most Bel Ami guys is a turn-off.

      Watching Brent Everett, Ralph Woods and Pierre Fitch to name a few… then the action is undeniably that much hotter and realistic; those guys REALLY know -and like- what they do.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 4:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DjARD
      DjARD

      @MMDD: Here’s the deal with the vast majority of prostitutes, though:

      They do not become one by choice. Most active prostitutes are forcibly brought into that lifestyle, either as children or teenagers, and then mentally conditioned until the act becomes nothing, until the abuse and being taken advantaged of is simply an everyday occurrence. Even those who made the choice to enter it at a young age usually have very, very specific circumstances that brought them to that point.

      For the few who DID choose to enter, as an adult, and were not physically dependent on drugs or some such, in their case it boils down to either one of two things: A belief in ones own sexual superiority (this is much more common for men), or an inner desire to express an aspect of their sexuality they cannot due to societal norms – while making cash on the side.

      Yes, porn stars are prostitutes. However, the vast majority of them made the CHOICE to enter, unlike most prostitutes. It’s that simple. If, as a man who identities as straight you choose to enter gay porn – the prospect of money is nothing more than a cover to engage in sexual exploration. Don’t compare it to prostitution, because it’s very different.

      @Sansacro:

      While I agree with what you’re trying to say, your comment about erections = finding a situation erotic is NOT correct, at all, and to assume so would then erase the existence of many male rape victims (whether having been raped by men or women). Erections and ejaculations are simply response to stimuli – any stimuli. Arousal and orgasm is often involuntary. You got a boner while sitting on the bus. Was it because you find the bus super hot? Probably not. Instead, it was a reaction to the way the bus was moving, or perhaps to something else mundane.

      There have been cases of men ejaculating while being raped by another male, just as there are many cases of women doing the same during sexual assault. Erections, cumming – it has nothing to do with what you find erotic. At its core, it is a mechanical function. This is why asexual people masturbate, women can rape men, etc. Its involuntary.

      @redboy70:

      lol wut? Sorry, that’s not how it works. Firstly, to compare the average porn star to legitimate actors is ludicrous. Actual acting is about maintaining a consistent thought process, a cycle in which ALL reactions and actions are consistent with the character you are trying to embody. Most actors, or those who have the spark, take years to hone this skill. But porn stars? Uh, no. Porn is about fucking, that’s really it. There’s little performance that goes on, it’s all just trying look hot, and moaning when appropriate. They do not have the talent to properly fake it, so your analogy doesn’t work. At all.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 6:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Xzamilio
      Xzamilio

      So, I’m guessing there are like 5 actual gay guys in the gay porn industry. Wow… this is why gay porn stars should just be porn stars and not celebrities in our communities. It shouldn’t matter what they prefer in their private lives because quite frankly, no one should give a damn about them when the video ends… sorry, but they have sex on camera. That’s it.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 7:17 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tdx3fan
      tdx3fan

      @Sansacro: You are wrong. If you were right you could expand your arguments to claim male rape is not possible. Science believes that there is actually little link between physical stimulation and emotional experience.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 9:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      Trying to repost without the damn “your comment is awaiting moderation” flag blocking my message.

      @Sansacro: Sorry, but your “bisexual capacity” theory is seriously flawed and verging on almost delusional. You’re putting way too much leverage on a hard dick and an orgasm as being the sole indicators of someone’s sexuality. When you see a gay porn performance, you are seeing a manipulated, scripted, and (most likely) heavily edited event. Most of the time straight or lesbian porn is playing in the background. That, females on the set, and Vi@gr@ are what get these guys hard so that it creates the illusion that they are aroused by each other, when this is not actually the case. And you know as well as I do that when it comes time for the “money shot,” what usually happens? Each guy jerks himself off. So they are giving themselves those orgasms (frequently while watching something off-screen with a woman in it).

      Fact: Gay porn is 100% fantasy. Yes, the guys are engaging in real sex acts, but there’s no actual desire behind them, like in the “real world” when two people meet, are attracted to each other, and ultimately have sex. And I repeat, these guys are GETTING PAID to do this. Money is the motivating factor, not sexual desire. There are people out there who will eat a turd off of sidewalk for $50. Why is it so hard for you (and others in this thread) to accept that there are straight guys out there who would suck d*ck for much, much more?

      Aug 24, 2014 at 10:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • robirob
      robirob

      Porn is about objectifying. Gay for pay is about paying for the privilege of worshipping masculinity while being kept at arm’s lenght.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 11:56 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      You can protesteth that you’re “straight” all you want, but if they’ve got you immortalized on film having naked sex with other men, as far as the world is concerned, you’re gay.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 12:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      @Kieran: “The world” has an inaccurate view of a lot of things.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 12:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • seaguy
      seaguy

      This is already available for free online in separate video parts for each star so it sounds like all TLA is doing is making it into one nice continuous documentary but if you’re like me and have already seen it save yourself some money.

      just go to queermenow dot net and search for documentary and it is a few posts down Brent Everett’s should come up first.

      I guess Queerty blocks URLS in the comments. Whatever.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 1:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • seaguy
      seaguy

      @Kieran: Amen like they can’t find any other work. Take Vadim Black who just went back to BSB after working at Dallas Reeves he says he is still straight but he is still doing gay porn even after it put a big rift in his relationship with his family. I just have a hard time believing that as a “straight” guy getting fucked in the ass is a better job than having a good relationship with your family and not having to deal with all the drama from people (friends, family) who don’t understand why he did gay porn. Gay porn does not pay that well so either guys like him are gluttons for punishment or they are closeted fags.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 1:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • seaguy
      seaguy

      @Xzamilio: Way more than five. There are studios that actually won’t work with gay4pay guys and then some who work almost exclusively with them like Sean Cody etc… Just like some gay porn stars have no issues doing scenes with a gay4pay model others won’t cause they don’t like how they are treated by the straight models and they know the end result is often lacking the chemistry that only two gay men can have.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 1:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      @seaguy: It’s a dream job….you can be homosexual but still say you’re “straight” because you’re “only doing it for the money”. Young gays are often deep in denial.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 1:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @MMDD: No 100% straight kinnsey Zero thinks “I can fuck men for money”, a kinnsey 1 sure but not zero. Also at this point the money is nearly the same as it is in straight porn. It’s a bit more but not much., so a true straight man isn’t going to say well it’s $100 more so I defiantly fuck men.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 2:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @bigrawtop: Actually performer wise they have started to use more gay and bi guys like Dirk Caber. They also now have two gay directors and the leader photographer is still gay. Yes they are still a majority straight company but they do have quite a few bisexual performers like Colby Jansen and using more Dirk and Colby Keller are steps in the right direction. They still have a long way to go.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 2:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      Ok I finally actually watched the trailer and I love how Rocco is talking about all the negative views people have of porn stars yet now that he is retired he completely tries to wipe away his porn past. Hypocrite much?

      Aug 24, 2014 at 2:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • samwise343
      samwise343

      I wish that the gay porn industry would fire every straight or hiv positive or meth/hard drug using performer. This way, we could watch the same two guys fuck bareback over and over and over again.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 2:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris
      Chris

      Lukas Ridgeston, of Bel Ami fame, has the best response to all of this. Whenever he’s asked if he’s straight, bi or gay: “I always say I am sexual.” Works for me.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 3:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      So many gay men here who are obsessed with what other men identify as. So what if these men identify as straight? Why do you personally want them to be gay? They’re straight — get used to it. It makes me sick whenever gay men won’t let other men do what they want without trying to bully them out of the closet, and by doing so, you’re telling everyone who being gay is such a bad thing. It isn’t? Then let them be and don’t try to claim them.

      You could have simply said that you don’t like seeing straight men in gay porn without making it sound like straight men are better because that’s what you’re implying you tell them to stop trying to say they’re straight even though you THINK they are not.

      They’re not gay; they’re in this for money because gay porn pays more, on average, than straight porn . It sounds sad how some of you worship your “REAL straight friends” as if they’re something that’s more worthy of respect and whose opinions should matter even more simply because they’re straight. Regardless of your friends’ sexuality, they have opinions, and cannot and do not speak for all straight men. If a man says he’s straight, then he is straight. Case closed!

      Aug 24, 2014 at 3:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @Dxley:
      1. The pay is barely more.
      2. They are often homophobic.
      3. The very definition of straight sole attraction to and physical action with women not men.
      4. They make it look like we can simply choose to be gay or not.
      5. I prefer more porn to contain men actually into each other.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 4:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DjARD
      DjARD

      @Dxley:

      I’m sorry if you can’t see the complexity of the issue, because there’ve been some good arguments as to why this is a bad practice.

      However, to put it really simply: But insisting on the label of straight, by promoting men unwilling to be open about parts of their sexuality, by having an industry dominated with this – it sends awful, awful, messages.

      First and foremost, it continues to place heterosexuality on a pedestal, still implying that not being that is bad, something to hide and be shameful of. The way straight men (and “Straight” men) are promoted by pornography AND sites like Queerty is nothing but glorification. It only serves to put forth the message that, yes, heterosexual men are better than us who aren’t, and we should never question their privilege.

      Second, by encouraging these men to maintain a fully heterosexual identity, we further propagate the idea of binary sexuality. It ignores the enormous, complex spectrum of sexuality that exists between “gay” and “straight. Terms like that, even “bisexual” and “pansexual” are simply what we feel comfortable with saying ourselves as – and often times, what we feel comfortable saying ourselves nowhere near covers the intricacies of our sexuality and romantic identity (two VERY different things, which should be noted), and may even be patently false due to the environment we surround ourselves with.

      You say “if a man says he’s straight, then he is straight. Case closed!”; do you have the same feelings toward far right republicans caught in same sex scandals?

      And one last things – you know what’s easier to believe than straight men doing gay sex for money? Non straight men (whether they be questioning, bi, pan, or something else) being paid to identify as straight because they’ll make more money that way, and most likely coming to believe it (Cliff Jensen, anyone? The dude who identified as bi very early on, only to suddenly change to straight, and start making homophobic comments?).

      Aug 24, 2014 at 4:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DjARD
      DjARD

      @MMDD:

      I’m gonna have to stop you there.

      As an actual professional filmmaker, and having also known people who worked in porn – that’s not the case. Yes, the ‘set up’ to porn can be scripted, but most sex acts are not. Porn has NO editing, at least not that could be described as overly manipulative (exploitative is another story). The equipment and budget that pornographers operate on is extremely low, especially the sites that promote straight men. Most record on consumer grade camcorders, with a few filming on Canon and Nikon DSLRs – T2i, 60D, etc. They do not record sound separately, using camera audio. They do not set up shots, they just… shoot, until the battery runs out, or if there’s an overly long pause during sex, in which case they may cut. Or if they feel they simply need a different angle. But even so, the way that these are shot, from an actual filmmaker’s perspective, is… lazy and straight forward.

      You seem to be operating under the assumption that most porn being made has an actual scheme to it. It really doesn’t. SOME, though very few video by, say, Colt have “higher production values”, but it’s still a stretch to say they actually manipulating. People who make porn do not have enough *knowledge* about filmmaking to properly produce a piece of manipulation. You give them far too much credit. You also seem to be remarkably unquestioning about the practices of gay porn.

      You use the straight porn playing in the background as evidence. But consider these things: There have been a number of times where that sound was the ONLY thing I, as a filmmaker, could identify as being something added in post production – as in, a track that was laid over the camera audio files. As in, it was there to begin with. Secondly, even when it is playing, does it not occur to you that the studios would put it there to keep the illusion of them being straight?

      For somebody who believes porn is an illusion, it seems that illusion stops at how the men identify. They are straight, because they say so and the studio says so.

      How about this, copy and pasted from an earlier comment on this thread I made:

      You know what’s easier to believe than straight men doing gay sex for money? Non straight men (whether they be questioning, bi, pan, or something else) being paid to identify as straight because they’ll make more money that way, and most likely coming to believe it if they were uncomfortable with their previous identity in the first place (Cliff Jensen, anyone? The dude who identified as bi very early on, only to suddenly change to straight, and start making homophobic comments?).

      Aug 24, 2014 at 4:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DjARD
      DjARD

      @MMDD:

      *As in, it WASN’T there to begin with. My bad, along with the other typos.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 4:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      @DjARD: And I’ve read testimonies by multiple filmmakers in the biz who have contradicted what you’re saying. Regardless of who identifies as what or who is paid to identify as what or who is paid to do whatever, it’s all one big confusing and inconsistent mess–and that is never erotic.

      In addition, I guarantee you that if you do any kind of research to find out anything about performers who have retired from the biz, you will almost always discover that they settled down with women–and that is far from the “illusion of them being straight.”

      Aug 24, 2014 at 4:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @Dxley: So are “ex gays” straight because they say so?

      Aug 24, 2014 at 5:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @MMDD: If a bisexual guy settles down with a woman does that make him straight? No it doesn’t.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 5:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • redboy70
      redboy70

      @DjARD: Thanks for the thoughtful, respectful reply that shows you really didn’t think about it all.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 5:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      @JJ24: No, but assuming that a performer has to be bisexual just because he performed in gay porn is ludicrous.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 5:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DjARD
      DjARD

      @MMDD:

      And they would not be biased to describe and sell their product a certain way? Oh, we’re they’re totally straight because we’re totally faking everything, trust me. But yes, most porn is horrendous either way.

      I respect your civility and eloquence, which is far more than I can say for many on here, but again you made a rather outlandish statement.

      Setting down with women does not, nor has it ever, equaled straight. I might end up settling down with a woman. Or I might end up settling down with a man. So whoever I settle down with provides empirical proof of what my sexuality is, regardless of if there”s a wealth of evidence that says otherwise? Nope. That’s simply black and white, sexual binary thinking.

      Here’s something: who you fuck, and who you love, are two entirely different parts of one’s make-up. There are men who almost exclusively enjoy fucking other men, but find themselves most romantically geared toward women. And vice versa. And there’s so much in between, too.

      This is what I believe: Aside from the ones who were perhaps driven to it by crippling drug addiction, or the no doubt numerable cases of people who were bred into it (because porn is not, in any way shape or form, a good industry), men participating in gay-for-pay pornography are not straight. But they aren’t gay either. Most, though technically bisexual, do not fall under the colloquial ideal of bisexuality (a Kinsey 3). Rather, most probably exist in a gray area – again, if we were to use Kinsey, a 1 1/2 to a 2 (though even Kinsey is far too narrow of a measuring judgement).

      These are men who DO have same sex attraction, thoughts and curiosity. However, unlike women, they are not encouraged to explore that (and I should note, the reason women are encouraged to explore it is NOT for a good reason , either – it’s about benefiting straight men, first a foremost) gray area. Instead, they end up using something like gay-for-pay porn to explore, which has the one excuse that people living in an restricted free market economy will always get behind: money. They did it for the money. I’m just doing it for the money. But it’s only an excuse, a way to bypass the norms and conditioning put upon male sexuality.

      Labels like gay, straight, bi, pan, asexual, they’re all useful tools. But they’re also restrictive. The men of gay for pay are in a gray area, it’s as simple as that.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 5:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • onthemark
      onthemark

      So why aren’t there more actual GAY guys working in gay porn? I don’t get why this is.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 6:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MMDD
      MMDD

      @DjARD: I still say, men who engage in sexual activity with other men BECAUSE THEY WANT TO and men who engage in sexual activity with other men BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING PAID FOR IT are two completely different things. I appreciate your engaging me in conversation, but it’s clear we’re both not budging in our perspectives, so this is my last post on this thread.

      Aug 24, 2014 at 9:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Greg Garavani
      Greg Garavani

      Wow, Johnny Rapid is ‘straight’? Bullshit. All these guys who perform these acts have an interest in men which is why they indulge to begin with. I believe they’re all currently in denial and pretend that they are ‘straight’ to avoid being ridiculed. That’s like saying gay guys start ‘Straight for Pay’ and start having sex with girls, ew.

      Aug 25, 2014 at 12:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • enlightenone
      enlightenone

      @grrrrandy: Some even murder! Do you live under a rock?

      Aug 25, 2014 at 3:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scribe38
      Scribe38

      @DarkZephyr: Sometimes sex is just sex and money is just money. I have gotten hard for and screwed more than one woman and it doesn’t make me bi or straight just in a situation where I needed or wanted to get off. A lot of gay guys have slept with women and they aren’t bisexual. A lot of these dudes are on drugs or of the mind set the world owes them something and their body is the simplest way to get them paid. In high school a dude let me bang him repeatedly because no one else would deal with him and he was lonely. He’s now married with four kids and cheats on his wife with women. He views me as just a way he got off in H.S.

      Aug 25, 2014 at 7:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scribe38
      Scribe38

      Talked to this hustler/trade at the bar one night. He chatted me up for drinks and I was bored so I played a long. He eventually explained why he slept with gay guys for cash. He said it was just an easy way to make money for drugs where he wouldn’t have to do anything too bad for money that would land him back in jail. Dude said he had a girl and a kid. Some straight dudes just view gays as a source of cash.

      Aug 25, 2014 at 8:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • enlightenone
      enlightenone

      @mcflyer54: Your comment is the script for an honest documentary on the subject with my added segment on the “girlfriend”/”wives” who is encouraging, supporting, and participating in the “video” LIFE record for any child (including their peers, etc.) they may birth, (assuming they know who the “father” is), see all this just to “pay some bills” in the present. The research: http://www.straightfaternity.com, more like trailerparkboys,specifically SEBASTIAN YOUNG (Bros and Hos), yes him, and the kid WARREN, the “straight,” 95% bottom.

      Aug 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • enlightenone
      enlightenone

      @enlightenone: The main reason for the site tour is the girlfriend/wife of WARREN is the “HO!”

      Aug 25, 2014 at 1:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JJ24
      JJ24

      @Scribe38: Actually that does make you bisexual, out gay men as in kinnsey 6 do not have sex with women. You can say they do all you want but they don’t. if your out and still having sex with women your a 4, or 5 aka bisexual but way more into men.

      Aug 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lykeitiz
      lykeitiz

      @MMDD: Of course not. It’s always about the “now”, and this article is about men who are “now” having sex with men….on camera…..and aroused, and claiming they’re straight. There is no comparison to a gay man who once had sex with women while he was figuring out who he is.

      Aug 26, 2014 at 12:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • AxelDC
      AxelDC

      There may be straight guys who can get it up for the cash, but many of them are claiming to be straight to boost their video sales.

      As for being a porn star, the only difference between a porn star and a prostitute is a camera. Both are being paid for sex.

      Aug 27, 2014 at 6:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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