Christopher Hitchens got bi-tchy this weekend while debating Obama-loving Andrew Sullivan. The gents were debating Jeremiah Wright’s influence on Barack Obama‘s campaign when Hitchens described Sullivan as a “lesbian,” as in, “don’t be such a lesbian.”
Foolish Hitchens, Sullivan’s a fag, not a dyke!
Transcript via video-providing Media Matters, after the jump…
SULLIVAN: Two things. One, it’s important to clear up that he [Wright] did not say “The Jews are going to get you” in some conspiratorial, classic anti-Semitic fashion. I think that’s just —
HITCHENS: He [Wright] thinks only Jews are going to object to [Rev. Louis] Farrakhan and [Libyan leader Moammar] Gadhafi. Excuse me?
SULLIVAN: No, he didn’t say “only.”
HITCHENS: No, but —
SULLIVAN: Again, you keep playing with that quote. We’re happy to have it on the record. And now you’ve made me forget my second point, which is —
HITCHENS: Oh, well, don’t be such a lesbian. Get on with it.
Leland Frances
Poor Hitchens. If he apparently didn’t start drinking so early in the morning he’d realize that, actually, Sullivan more resembles a balding, post male hormone therapy/mid menopausal female-to-male transgender Tory whose pudgy, potty body keeps fighting to escape her/his little boy suit. That doesn’t make him a bad person but this does:
Except for that blink and you missed it moment of integrity when he, too, was rightfully crucifying Obama over McClurkingate — “what happened on that stage was inexcusable, stupid, and damaging. I don’t blame any gay American for jumping the Obama ship over it” — the antiENDA, Right Chicken Wing Sullivan has repeatedly turned truth and reason inside out in an attempt to defend and deify the Dali Obama.
But his apparent primary motivation can be best described in a paraphrase of his countryman, the Bard:
“Not that I loved Obama less but that I hated Hillary more.”
And THAT Sullivan and Hitchens—who described Sen. Clinton on the show as “soppy and bitchy” and “sobbing”—have in common.
Sullivan, mais oui, agreed with all that, as well as saying that Jeremiah Wrong could not be equated with Louis Farrakhan—even tho his daughter gave Farrakhan the lifetime acchievement award named for Wrong last November.
For such wisdom, powerful but empty suit Tim Russert said, “Thank you both for writing and thinking and talking with intelligence.”
Typical White Person
That is an insult to lesbians everywhere.
Sullivan is a self indulgent non entity whose record for being wrong is about 98 percent at this point.
leomoore
I still don’t understand why Sullivan is pretending to be a Democrat this time around. McCain is not as awful in 2008 as Bush was in 2004 (or any other time) when Andy Boy didn’t get too worked up about supporting a Democrat. This despite the fact Kerry represents a state that actually does not prevent gay and lesbian people from exercising their constitutional rights in all matters within its jurisdiction.
Leland Frances
THIS JUST IN:
Sullivan’s Website makes the list of hot/needed/must read/brilliant blogs just published by his former employer “Time” magazine.
We pause while you laugh……
If that wasn’t insane enough, they write this:
“[Sullivan] seems to be leaning toward Barack Obama this year.”
Which proves that Time simply doesn’t know what time it is. Sullivan has had his head so far up Obama’s ass for so long that if he pulled it out for five minutes it would look like he was trying to do “black face.”
M Shane
Strangely, I’ve used the same noun in a derogatory way in relation to someone who was taking a Sullivanesque direction -as a cut It is aimed at conventionality or rigedness in this case. Hitchen’s is talking about nothing else but Sullivan’s frustration with not being able to make his points in order.
The referance goes back to Sullivan’s attempts to be heterosexual-like and “normal”,
in the respect that it resembles “nesting”., left brainedness and adaptation to heterosexual life syles.
Hitchens is known for his ascerbic wit, is not conventional and is generally associated with left-wing politics. I don’t think that the remark has anything to do with what they are talking about but with Sullivan’s left-brainedness or rigidity..
Whites Against Racism
Leland Frances, you are an odd character or maybe just a caricature of someone who serves no other purpose than to posts anonymous and incendiary comments to divide gays along racial lines.
Every posts I have read of yours have one central theme–“Obama is bad and here is a ignorant, racist comment to prove it.” Is your mind capable of expanding beyond this low-brow demension?
In an earlier post, you used the phrase “house niggers” when discussing Rev. Meeks. At first, I thought your placement of the phrase in the context of the discussion was peculiar but I just dismissed it because I figured your morning medication/sedative had not taken effect yet. I actually envisioned that, unlike Chris Mathews who gets a thrill in his leg from listening to Obama speak, you get a boner saying the “N” word. To each his own. But since I am white, you can’t call me a “N—–“. But I have friends who are willing to be my surrogate, so if you want to say it about me, go ahead…I’ll let then know.
Now your pea-brain thought it funny to use another racist phrase out of context. Your reference to “black face” is not only offensive, but more than that, it calls into question your mental faculties. I am not a psychiatrist, but from your unskilled writing, I would say you are either under the influence of drugs/alcohol, retarded, or certifiably insane.
In any case, I just want you to know that there are those of us who believe it important to help people like you with your problem. We stand united against racism in all its forms and manifestations. We encourage you to seek treatment for whatever ails you…its not too late.
Our motto and pledge:
What can we do about the racism that disfigures America?
1. Look out for your Asian, black, latin or other minority group neighbors .
2. Whenever appropriate, let people who may fear racism know that you are not racist, and go out of your way to show that you are not antagonistic or hostile to them.
3. If you know people who have racist views, let them know that you do not share their opinions and if possible show that you find such views distasteful, ignorant or stupid.
4. Take any opportunity to show racists that their views are irrational, unfair, and based on lack of education about the history of our country and the world.
5. Leave no room for anyone to think that racism is acceptable in any way shape or form.
BigBear
No6: Stop being such a lesbian.
Afroguapo
W.A.R. is just calling out the men on here who show no qualms saying ignorant borderline racist things. I think it’s because this site wasn’t frequented by blacks previously, at least not in meaningful numbers so it created a climate where people were talking solely to just each other, oblivious to those who were different. Anyway, this article I thought was very good. I am so tired of people distorting Wright, his past and his 9/11 speech.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oped0404wrightapr03,0,92000.story
chicagotribune.com
Factor military duty into criticism
By Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss
April 3, 2008
In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President John F. Kennedy’s challenge to, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country,” gave up his student deferment, left college in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines.
In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)
The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to the Navy’s premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital, as a member of the commander in chief’s medical team, and helped care for President Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery. For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House awarded him three letters of commendation.
What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy not many years after the two branches began to become integrated.
While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President Dick Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/sailor, received five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and one for being a prospective father. Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay in college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family connections.
Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something or those who merely talk about their love of the country?
After leaving the service of his country, the young African-American finished his final year of college, entered the seminary, was ordained as a minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of America’s biggest cities.
This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retiring pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, who has been in the news for comments he made over the last three decades.
Since these comments became public we have heard criticisms, condemnations, denouncements and rejections of his comments and him.
We’ve seen on television, in a seemingly endless loop, sound bites of a select few of Rev. Wright’s many sermons.
Some of the Wright’s comments are inexcusable and inappropriate and should be condemned, but in calling him “unpatriotic,” let us not forget that this is a man who gave up six of the most productive years of his life to serve his country.
How many of Wright’s detractors, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly to name but a few, volunteered for service, and did so under the often tumultuous circumstances of a newly integrated armed forces and a society in the midst of a civil rights struggle? Not many.
While words do count, so do actions.
Let us not forget that, for whatever Rev. Wright may have said over the last 30 years, he has demonstrated his patriotism.
Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss are, respectively, Navy and Marine Corps veterans. They work at The Center For American Progress. Korb served as assistant secretary of Defense in the Reagan administration.
trevor b.
No. 3: He was pro-Kerry and anti-Bush in 2004 for what it’s worth.
That said, I understand the anger over McClurkin, but what about the anger over DOMA? I still don’t get how Clinton holds on to so much support from the gay and lesbian communities. Obama at least has the balls to defend the dignity of gay folks in speeches to largely African-American, religious crowds.