Michael Sam may not have found his way onto the field of an NFL game (yet), but he scored a major touchdown with this recent LAX interview.
He and fiancé Vito Cammisano arrived in Los Aneles and were promptly leeched onto by a TMZ cameraman. Long flights are bad enough — we can’t imagine having to be camera ready upon landing.
But instead of answering his annoying questions or just simply ignoring him, Michael starts tossing out Game of Thrones references left and right.
The best part is they all seem to fly over the interviewer’s head. In the end Michael chalks it up to the interviewer not understanding gay people’s “terminology.”
How about we take this to the next level?
Our newsletter is like a refreshing cocktail (or mocktail) of LGBTQ+ entertainment and pop culture, served up with a side of eye-candy.
Other fun tidbits — Michael and Vito plan to wed in Westeros, Tyrion and Tywin Lannister are invited, and the happy couple is registered at Kings Landing. Oh, and hopefully Daenerys can get to Westeros soon. “It’s been, like, six books and she hasn’t been there.”
Watch below:
Xzamilio
Let this be a lesson to any gay NFL prospect: Come out after the ink dries on your contract. And then don’t do every Z-list move possible to keep yourself relevant… like going on Dancing With The Stars. I have to say, not really seeing how he is a role model for gay athletes, other than the undeniable courage it took for him to come out. But his example sure as hell didn’t help remove taboos on LGBT athletes playing in a major sport. Sorry… but not really.
PeterPiperBoy
@Xzamilio: I disagree with you! He’s a great role model for gay athletes everywhere! At least he had the balls to come out–PERIOD!!! We don’t know what the future holds for Michael Sam as a football player! He’s not done yet!!!
xzall
@Xzamilio: Maybe he needed a job and money. What’s he supposed to do? Wait until the NFL never calls him?
And he did do something for LGBT athletes. Someone had to be the first even if it wasn’t totally successful. The Michael Sam story isn’t done yet.
Xzamilio
@PeterPiperBoy: “I have to say, not really seeing how he is a role model for gay athletes, other than the undeniable courage it took for him to come out.”
I already addressed that… and as for your “He’s a great role model for gay athletes everywhere”… not seeing it. How many gay NFL athletes came out after Michael Sam emerged? How many gay athletes in a major sport have been open about their orientation since Michael Sam? We DO know what the future holds for Sam in the NFL… as a football player? That’s different. Arena Football, the CFL? Sure. The NFL? No. If anything his example should be a warning to gay NFL potentials… do the opposite of what he did. Make it about the game only and nothing more. No documentaries, no pandering in the media, no terrible combine tryouts. We see what happens to athletes when their celebrity overpowers them as athletes… only a few have managed to wade in both waters without much damage. And that applies to EVERYONE, regardless of orientation
Xzamilio
@xzall: Yes, and if football is his focal point, making the rounds of D-list shows with Z-list celebrities is not going to do it. That is only going to hurt him in the long run if he wants to be taken seriously by the NFL doing things like this. I’m a football fanatic, so I take the football aspect a lot more seriously than most on here. I don’t see the positive benefit he had for gay athletes. Robbie Rogers is more of a positive role model… even if he is a soccer player, and we know soccer has only recently caught on with the same force as the rest of the world cherishes it.
Milk
TMZ suppose to cover of all things entertainment related. That photog should be fire for not knowing GOT. Good on Sam. And Vito could barely hold his laughter.
lauraspencer
Why!?!??!?! Why did he sign to do DANCING WITH THE STARS?
Bizarre career move.
What did he study in school? Why doesn’t he use his education from off the field and pursue it? Why not become a gym teacher?
This makes it so obvious that Sam is more interested in being a celebrity than being a football player. This isn’t going to help his football aspirations.
Xzamilio
@lauraspencer: It really isn’t, and that’s why it matters to me so much. Because I WANT him in the NFL. I WANT gay athletes standing toe to toe with the Lebron Jameses, D-Wades, Steph Currys, Richard Shermans, Tom Bradys, Aaron Rodgerses — when he’s good — and Tim Teb– whoops.
Anyway, if you’re gonna be the first, be the first. You take a lot more of the abuse and the brunt of the backlash being the first minority in a league of cisgendered heterosexual guys reeking of machismo and jock sweat. I’m not happy with the direction it seems Sam is going.
Xzamilio
And, frankly — and this is my last post on this — I called it over a month ago:
http://shallowvoices.blogspot.com/2015/01/michael-sam.html
Not looking to plug my own blog, but I spoke on this a while ago.
jwtraveler
I admire Sam for his courage in coming out. He’s a great role model It’s unfortunate that his NFL career didn’t work out, but I don’t think homophobia is really the cause. A friend who knows much more about football than I do told me that many star college players (even Heisman Trophy winners) don’t make it in the NFL. What he does now is his business. I hope he finds a satisfying path in life and wish him well with Vito.
Those TMZ guys are a bunch of pathetic idiots. They seem like a lot of Hollywood wannabes who have failed at everything and have resorted to stalking and trashing celebrities to boost their own egos. Great to see how Sam punked them. Shows he’s not just a pretty face and a hot body.
CoachS
As a coach and former athlete, I have a lot of thoughts on Michael Sam. The most important is this though: I don’t care what he does (Dancing with the Stars, talk to TMZ, etc). I am very disappointed by the fact that, though he had a great pre-season, he didn’t make an NFL team. I’m disappointed because we’re still talking about the impact that his coming out had on his career and
I’m appalled that in Lubbock, Texas and Tulsa, Oklahoma and Pittsfield, Massachusetts and in every other city or town across the US, there are 11,12,13,14 and 15yo athletes who feel that they have to stay hidden and live a lie because Mike Sam tried it and got whacked back down.
Whether he becomes a D-list celebrity or a gym teacher is secondary. He could be an NFL player and the debate rages on about why he’s not. That keeps kids thinking they’re somehow lesser. That’s unacceptable.
sportyguy1983
Let’s hope he realizes that less than 2% of all Division 1 football players ever make it to the NFL. If he wants a career as a “celebrity” then he will have to get used this.
jason smeds
Don’t worry, Michael Sam will find a job on the celebrity circuit dancing with women on Dancing With The Stars.
As for his encounter with the TMZ reporter, why waste your time? TMZ is a waste of bandwidth.
Black Pegasus
@Xzamilio: I agree with your first comment. Going on “Dancing with the Stars” is the last image he should be promoting to would be NFL scouts. As if kissing and licking cake from the face of a former porn actor on national television the night of the NFL draft wasn’t enough, now he will be dressed in tight slacks and some revealing zesty shirt doing ballerina dances moves for a huge TV audience. NOT the kind of gay role model young men of color need. Sorry!
Btw: I found your blog several days ago. Love Love Love it 🙂
enlightenone
@Xzamilio: “…Robbie Rogers is more of a positive role model…”
How so and to whom do you consider his people who ensures he has a livelihood.
Personally, I would prefer he would do a “reality” show, though most are trash tv, but there have been a FEW that entertains and affirms our collective social understanding and meaningful working out of human relating.
CCTR
@lauraspencer: @Xzamilio: @Xzamilio: @lauraspencer: Football fanatics or not, the both of you write as if you know what is best for him and his life. Living your own truth and being your authentic self are far more important than a game…and definetely far more important than trying to please you two. You may not see it, bu he might be a role model to gay athletes.
“What did he study in school? Why doesn’t he use his education from off the field and pursue it? Why not become a gym teacher?”
Maybe he studied dance in school. Maybe he doesn’t like teaching. ???? ??????
CCTR
@Black Pegasus: “now he will be dressed in tight slacks and some revealing zesty shirt doing ballerina dances moves for a huge TV audience. NOT the kind of gay role model young men of color need. Sorry!”
Since when did football uniforms become loose fitting?
I’m curious to know what kind of gay role models do young men of color need, and how do you know this?
Milk
@Xzamilio: It’s not what you want. It’s what Michael Sam wants. Get it?
Black Pegasus
@CCTR You wanna know what kind of Gay Role Models young men of color need? As a gay man of color I can tell you that we sure as hell don’t need this!
http://youtu.be/-mxpmnnLxKk
DarkZephyr
@Black Pegasus: I take it that you are against your fem gay brothers and wish they didn’t exist and you feel ashamed of them?
DarkZephyr
@Black Pegasus: “As if kissing and licking cake from the face of a former porn actor on national television the night of the NFL draft wasn’t enough”
That is his fiance that you are talking about. I am frankly very surprised at how judgmental you are proving to be.
Xzamilio
@enlightenone: Notice how I said more of a role model? It was a comparison, and one where the bar is not very high. And just to address the rest of you — even though I said my last post was my last one — I notice that none of you can’t seem to offer any refutation other than “You don’t know what’s best for him”… “It’s his life”… and other feelgood sentiments that have nothing to do with the SPORT of football. Sorry, but in the professional world, the SPORT comes first. You only have so many good years to play anyway before either early retirement from injuries or leagues no longer interested in a player with nothing left to offer.
Get mad all you want, but the fact remains that while we don’t if DWTS will hurt his chances, they damn sure won’t help. It gives the appearance that he cares more about the spotlight than he does the sport.
@Black Pegasus: Not gonna lie. I’ve seen this video many times, and I give them props. Not many men can pull off those kinds of moves, let alone in heels. The way I see it, men are men, and there is no one way to be a man. And thanks for reading the blog. I’m trying to take it more seriously.
Xzamilio
I swear to [insert god here], the internet has made me so lazy to proofreading. Forgive my error-riddled posts.
lauraspencer
@CCTR….where did I say Sam wasn’t a role model??
You say “Living your own truth and being your authentic self….” When has being on a reality show had anything to do with authenticity??? They are produced and scripted. Sam will be the “character” that the DWTS producers want him to be.
If he needs a job I was just wondering why he didn’t pursue the field that he studied in school? We all know very well it wasn’t dance as you sarcastically suggested. If he loves football so much and he isn’t able to play it then why doesn’t he coach? At least he can be near the profession that he is supposedly passionate about.
It seems like it is more about fame than football for him.
Black Pegasus
@DarkZephyr: There is a difference between being effeminate and being flamboyant. No one here is arguing against fems, all I’m saying is “we need more masculine representions of gay men.” Fems have had spaces within the media to occupy for decades. Shame on me for wanting to see something other than the typical stereotypes for young gay men.
Captain Obvious
Just gonna say I’m happy for him and move along. Not sure what all the bickering is about.
Paco
@Black Pegasus: well it is YouTube, so I guess there is nothing stopping masculine gay men from uploading themselves as examples of other types of gay men.
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I think Michael Sam is awesome. Even more so with the Game of Thrones references. Vito’s a lucky man.
DarkZephyr
@Black Pegasus: How can you compare real flesh and blood feminine gay men with the parodies that have existed in movies and TV for decades? And THEN act as if because these parodies have existed, feminine gay men have had their turn and now need to step aside?
“we need more masculine representions of gay men.”
A) you are quoting yourself as if that was what you actually said when what you REALLY said was “You wanna know what kind of Gay Role Models young men of color need? As a gay man of color I can tell you that we sure as hell don’t need this!” and then posted a video of very excellent gay dancers who happen to be feminine gay men as if it was the most ridiculous, absurd, disgraceful thing you had ever seen on this planet. There is quite a big difference between those two quotes.
B) Are you *actually* convinced that there are no feminine gay men of color and that they don’t need role models? Do you have any idea how hurtful statements like yours can be for those feminine male youths of ANY race? Feminine gay boys are the ones who tend to get their asses kicked in school, not the ones that can please the heterosexuals and pass as one of them. ALL LGBT people need role models and quite frankly I am inspired by ANY out and proud LGBT person regardless of their mannerisms. We are all in this together, damn it.
DarkZephyr
@Paco: a-freaking-men. And you make an excellent point. The visibility that gay men of ANY stripe have is the visibility that they are brave enough to *take*.
Black Pegasus
@DarkZephyr: I’ve been witness to you and the meow mix you seem to create with other users of this site. And I’ve seen enough to know that there is no meeting of the minds with you, so Be Well…
This convo is over ??
jwtraveler
@Black Pegasus: I’m sensing a lot self-hatred. Internalized homophobia and racism. Maybe you should spend some time thinking about what kind of gay black man you want to be and let the others figure it out for themselves. I don’t think you’re helping.
jwtraveler
@Black Pegasus: I’m not crazy about the heels, but those guys are hot and they’re great dancers. They’re great role models for young gay men who are interested in dance and theatre and a little gender-fuck. How “fem” is a man with a beard?
That doesn’t mean they are the only gay role models we need. Michael Sam and Jason Collins are great role models for young gay men who are interested in sports.
There should be gay role models who show the range of possibilities for gay people, which is the range of possibilities for all people. Where are the gay role models of color in business, medicine, law, education, politics, science? There’s a place for all of them.
DarkZephyr
@Black Pegasus: my conversations with other users have absolutely nothing to do with this one. But if you are unwilling to respond to my points, so be it. You be well too.
DarkZephyr
@jwtraveler: *thunderous applause* Excellent post.
xzall
Reading some of these comments, I think some have issues that Michael Sam or any other role model couldn’t possibly solve.
I do see a lot of judgmental comments along the lines of he shouldn’t be doing reality shows to he should be doing what he studied in school. Considering his background, the poverty he came from, how he at one point lived in his car, his two brother in prison, three other siblings who’re dead, maybe Michael Sam has other priorities than to please all of you superior beings commenting on here. In the end he only needs to please himself.
demented
@Milk: But that’s actual ENTERTAINMENT. You know, a show with talent and a story and good writing. Not a crappy reality show, so what does TMZ care about it?
doug105
@Black Pegasus: Michael Sam Boyfriend Vito Cammisano Dated Porn Star Austin Wilde before hooking up with Sam.
He was never a porn star, not that there is anything wrong with it if he was, but at least get it right.
jwtraveler
@DarkZephyr: Thanks.
fredo777
@DarkZephyr: “@Black Pegasus: How can you compare real flesh and blood feminine gay men with the parodies that have existed in movies and TV for decades? And THEN act as if because these parodies have existed, feminine gay men have had their turn and now need to step aside?…”
Agree with everything you wrote in this post.
fredo777
@Black Pegasus: ” As if kissing and licking cake from the face of a former porn actor on national television the night of the NFL draft wasn’t enough, now he will be dressed in tight slacks and some revealing zesty shirt doing ballerina dances moves for a huge TV audience.” His fiance isn’t a former porn actor. His fiance’s ex was a porn actor. Get your facts straight before you start judging folks.
fredo777
Also, it’s pretty laughable how many comments I still read about DWTS being “D-List”, considering how popular the series is. I can’t wait to see Mike on the dance floor.
Giancarlo85
@DarkZephyr: Of course he feels ashamed about feminine men.
He doesn’t like feminine gay men. He thinks they are misrepresenting him. Another case of a self hating gay man hating on other gay men for being who they are. Feminine gay men have been the ones out there, changing minds and doing the most activism. I don’t see any of the straight acting types doing the same.
Oh yes, keep bashing on feminine gay men. If you hate them so much, why don’t you get out there and do something? There is a reason why you closet types don’t do much for the community asides from complain about what other gay men are doing and how they are.
I’m so sick of this. Not only do you have all your facts wrong, black pegasus, you’re being extremely hypocritical.
Louis
I just don’t know.
Giancarlo85
@jwtraveler: Or how about the CEO of Apple. I am not a fan of Apple products at all (yes, Microsoft+PCs all the way for me), but in the sense Tim Cook is a good role model too.
I just don’t like it when some gay men insult feminine gay men… feminine gay men at least have the courage to put themselves out there. They are good role models!
Louis
Yay it let me finally post lmao
Michael Sams response was hilarious .
Amazing that that guy he was speaking to didn’t know about Game of Thrones.
Louis
@Giancarlo85:
I agree ive dealt with that kind of attitude numerous times within the lgbt community.
The point is whether masculine or not as masculine we are both attracted to the same sex and are still gay either way.
Giancarlo85
@Louis: It just really pisses me off. Some people are so ungrateful and judgmental. Even within the gay community. And when gay men do this to other gay men I see nothing more than phony hypocrisy.
lykeitiz
@Xzamilio: @Black Pegasus: Do either of you realize that there have been at least 10 (yes, TEN) NFL players who have competed on Dancing With The Stars, and that THREE OF THEM HAVE WON? Luckily, when it comes to dancing, or at least image perception, the NFL isn’t as homophobic as you two.
Cam
@lauraspencer: said…
“Why not become a gym teacher?
This makes it so obvious that Sam is more interested in being a celebrity than being a football player. This isn’t going to help his football aspirations.”
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What a ridiculous comment you made, yeah, I can just see it.
“Hey Michael, some people want to pay you a few million to dance for a few weeks”
“Oh, no, can’t do it, I’m going for my third round of interviews to see if I can get the assistant coaching job at Taylor High school for $24,000 a year.
lykeitiz
But back to the point of this article..>>…this clip is absolutely hilarious!
“I hope it’s nothing like the Red Wedding”. ROFL!
Lovelife
Sometimes I can barely articulate what Micheal Sam is actually saying :(. He mumbles quite a bit.
CCTR
@lauraspencer: @Black Pegasus: Thanks for the video, loved it!
As a gay man of color I can only speak for myself but I wish I had these types of role models when I was younger. What I get from this video and from Micheal Sam planning to do DWTS is that as a gay man it is ok to express yourself without your actions having to fit into any confined and defined “box”.
I see these are examples of not being ashamed or afraid of expressing a passion and or interest. If that passion or interest takes you to the extremes of being flamboyant, feminine, masculine, reserved, a combination of all the above and more…just be yourself…regardless of how and what others think you should behave.
CCTR
@lauraspencer: The above comment wasn’t meant for you sorry. You are right, you never said that he wasn’t a role model. That part was meant for someone else. You are also right about reality shows.
My point was, as a real person, pursuing things that he is honestly and truly interested in is more important than being committed to the idea of living up to being the public’s “openly gay NFL prospect”. He can choose to be and do what he wants. I truly don’t know what he studied in college and yes I was being sarcastic, but can’t he have an interest in fame, football, and DWTS? His hopes of being in the NFL may have been for the love of the game as well as for fame…and that should be ok. Football is not exclusive to the NFL nor coaching. Maybe he will make you happy by coaching at some point in his life.
Xzamilio
@lykeitiz: Just stop, please. Because now you’re getting into name-calling territory, and all that does is shut down the conversation, especially using unjustified words like “homophobic”. I want you to point to what I said that was homophobic. Quote it for me. I’ll wait. What you neglected to mention about those 10 (yes TEN) NFL players was that ALL of them — with the exception of Chad Johnson — were retired, meaning FOOTBALL was no longer their focal point. And guess what? Chad Johnson had established himself as a football player in the NFL. But, then HE let his off-the-field antics overshadow his sports career and guess where he is now? In Canada, NOT playing for the NFL because no team will touch him now.
I don’t appreciate having buzzwords thrown at me, especially unjustified ones. It’s indicative of someone who can’t make an argument.
Xzamilio
@Cam: A few million????!!! What the hell are you on? They’ll be lucky if they get 100,000 grand. Ain’t nobody paying these D-listers a few million. I get the point though… but that was ridiculous.
Ugh I keep saying I’m done. I wish I could quit you, Queerty comment section.
Cam
@Xzamilio:
I looked it up, if you go far it could be around a half million. They get somewhere around $150,000 for signing and then get money each week that they are there.
Point still stands though, just the signing bonus is 5 times what a new gym teacher would make.
lykeitiz
@Xzamilio: When you’re right, you’re right. Upon re-reading your posts, it seems I did throw your name in with another user who definitely DID display some (perhaps internalized) homophobia through his/her remarks. Sorry to misread your points.
I don’t however, agree with all your points. I don’t think it makes much difference whether the DWTS football competitors were active or retired. They were still known for one thing & one thing only…..football. And all of them had former teammates rooting them on.
And as for Robbie Rogers, sorry but no, soccer has NOT “recently caught on with the same force as the rest of the world cherishes it” as you put it. Not even close.
Although I appreciated your remarks about a player’s limited time frame in their field, a couple facts still remain. One….as someone else pointed out, what is he supposed to do in the meantime? Ignore other opportunities? And two, like it or not, he’s not your average draft reject. His story is bigger than just that.
Once again, sorry for the ‘phobe comment. That was misdirected……like many of your points.
Giancarlo85
@Xzamilio: Are you going to make an actual point? Or is it just off key ranting?
Xzamilio
@lykeitiz: Okay, I don’t even care about the soccer thing, because that was an in-passing comment, and irrelevant to my overall point. Furthermore, you just made my point for me without even knowing it: “They were still known for one thing & one thing only…….football” Is Michael Sam known for one thing and one thing only? When he had the chance to prove himself at the combine, he was lackluster, to say the least. He’s not your “average reject” because the average rejects aren’t having their faces plastered all over the news for everything but football. If he’s done with the NFL, then I don’t give a damn what he does, but as someone who was sold on him only wanting to be seen as a player, I’m a tad bit disappointed.
And none of my points were misdirected… especially considering that none of you have managed to refute any of them. You’re talking about the person, I’m talking about the athlete.
Xzamilio
@Giancarlo85: I’ve made plenty of points, with no ranting involved. Or does making a comment longer than 2 sentences constitute ranting now? Glad to know that.
enlightenone
@Giancarlo85: “…I just don’t like it when some gay men insult feminine gay men… feminine gay men at least have the courage to put themselves out there.”
…As well as the BEST “bottoms”/bottoming (for you vers folks)!
enlightenone
@Xzamilio: “…Ugh I keep saying I’m done. I wish I could quit you, Queerty comment section.”
Well since you are continuing to comment, fine by me, let me challenge your thinking just a bit…
Though I appreciate both sides of the discussion, this being a first for me in quite some time, given that Michael IS committed to the show and doing primarily, I suspect, given his white (?) “Handlers,” would it not be affirming and progressive for him to have a male dance partner? The ten ballers mentioned were presumably “straight!”
enlightenone
@lykeitiz: “…That was misdirected……like many of your points.”
Got to give it to the gay folks; they can surely sling it!
Giancarlo85
@Xzamilio: Quality versus quantity. Your posts are all about quantity and little in the way of substance.
Giancarlo85
@enlightenone: Not all fem guys are bottoms…
enlightenone
@Xzamilio: “…You’re talking about the person, I’m talking about the athlete.”
Okay, let’s not play splitzies. This isn’t math, nor is it necessary! No need to do the love the sinner, hate the sin. You know these absurd?
enlightenone
@Xzamilio: “…I’ve made plenty of points, with no ranting involved…”
I for one agree w/you. Keep the discussion going. There may be a breakthrough!
enlightenone
@Giancarlo85: “Not all fem guys are bottoms…”
Didn’t say they were. Read again!
enlightenone
@Giancarlo85: “…Your posts are all about quantity and little in the way of substance.”
YOUR opinion! My opinion, about as much “substance” and “quantity” as yours.
enlightenone
@Black Pegasus: “As a gay man of color I can tell you that we sure as hell don’t need this!”
I’m VERY sure some talented gay men of color (won’t add adjectives to “gay”) would not agree with you, nor would gay men of color who would appreciate and be entertained by their talent in more ways than one, and you know it.
Do we need more role models for gay youth of color in other areas professional and otherwise DEFINITELY. IT’S IMPERATIVE!!!!!!!!! But first, they need to grow a pair and step out of their self-imposed “closets!”
Xzamilio
@Giancarlo85: So you say. The only thing you’re doing is dismissing what I am saying while offering no counter. What am I saying that is of no substance? You clearly are just replying for the sake of knocking down what I am saying, and I welcome any criticism, but I don’t have time for petty back and forths. That’s not what I’m trying to do here or when I initially commented.
Xzamilio
@enlightenone: Please don’t. That “love the sinner, hate the sin” crap does not apply here at all. I’m not trying to turn this up a notch, but once again, I do not appreciate the language being used here, because it ups it to a level that it’s not on. Have I made any personal shots at Michael Sam? Have I diminished who he is as a person? If I have, then I did not mean to, but on my end, it has very much been kept within the scope of his potential to be in the NFL… from what I’ve seen, he seems to care more about the celebrity than the game. And that isn’t all his fault, as the media is just as culpable in making this more about him as a celebrity.
The hyperbole is becoming a bit much, here. There’s no “splitsies” here.
robho3
Am I the only one that thinks Michael Sams is a dick? But I have to say TMZ reporters are the scum of the earth.
Xzamilio
@Cam: Okay, my mistake. And I apologize for the “what the hell are you on” crack as that was not called for.
Giancarlo85
@Xzamilio: Your simply dismissing Michael Sam because of some preconceived ideas you have about him. None of them without much substance.
Giancarlo85
@enlightenone: That’s incorrect. Some opinions have more weight and substance to them. Get a reality check.
Xzamilio
@Giancarlo85: Preconceived ideas? They were out of his own mouth, dude. Did he not say he wanted his focus only to be on football? But, I will say his recent tweets indicate that he is aware of the criticism, and maintains that football will remain his priority and may have to play in the CFL before NFL teams look at him as a potential player. Here’s hoping he gets it.
enlightenone
@Giancarlo85: “Some opinions have more weight and substance to them. Get a reality check.”
I agree. Just doesn’t mean yours or Xzamillo’s does. No need to be defensive with the “reality check” bit!
enlightenone
@Xzamilio: “That “love the sinner, hate the sin” crap”
I agree that it is crap, didn’t intend for it to “turn it up a notch,” just simply to say you can’t separate the man/person from the athlete {splitting) any more than he can even if, in your opinion he is diminishing how he may be perceived in the “NFL” world! Given your emotional reaction, it was a poor analogy!
“Have I made any personal shots at Michael Sam?” Yes, at least here “…from what I’ve seen, he seems to care more about the celebrity than the game. And that isn’t all his fault,…”
I will bow out now that I have not been at all helpful!
Giancarlo85
@Xzamilio: Yet you just said he cares more about being a celebrity than the game. You just contradicted yourself. But then again keep tripping up on your own words. Unlike you, I make my point quite directly. I don’t see need to sugarcoat and backtrack.
Xzamilio
@enlightenone: That’s a personal shot? It’s an observation which is why I prefaced it with “From what I’ve seen.” And then “emotional reaction”? Dude, seriously… I’m trying my hardest not to make this personal, but your poor words — and apparently my “emotions” –are making that hard for me. You do need to bow out, and so do I, because this has gone on long enough.
DarkZephyr
@Giancarlo85: “Not all fem guys are bottoms…”
That sure is true! I am versatile and before I entered into my relationship, I had some seriously hot times being topped by some beautiful feminine guys. <3 <3
enlightenone
@DarkZephyr: “That sure is true! I am versatile…”
Just for clarity sake, so there isn’t a continued thread on this misread matter; I did NOT say that “all fem guys” are bottoms that would be absurd (for someone of my sex education background).
“Hot times” are good times. Good for you DarkZephyr!
Giancarlo85
I’m totally vers too and most consider me to be feminine. I’m just me. That’s all. LOL. I don’t like labels.
Xzamilio
@Giancarlo85: Backtrack on what? Dude, you’re done. At this point, you’re looking for stupid shit to harp on and I am quite done feeding your nonsense.
Giancarlo85
@Xzamilio: You know what I’m talking about. Then be done. You keep on replying. I am not done. You have no right to tell me I am done. Grow up please and maybe use your brain.
DarkZephyr
@enlightenone: yes they were *very* good times. Thanks! 🙂