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Obama’s First 100 Days, Not For Gays

84481115AW010_PRESIDENT_OBAThey say a presidency is defined by its first 100 days and by most accounts, Barack Obama’s was about as much of a success as you could ask out of someone asked to preside over the worst financial crisis of a generation. The reviews are coming in. Sen. Lamar Alexander told Bloomberg News, “At the beginning of his presidency, President Obama is doing very well”, Reuters says, “Obama’s efforts to make a sharp break with Bush were arguably the easy part. He has laid the foundation for a new less aggressive foreign policy, but delivering concrete results will be harder” and while Gawker rightly points out that the survivors of Lost battled smoke-monsters, saved the planet and shagged up with most of each other in the same time span, the reality is that our smooth, cool-as-a-cucumber President has done well in his first sprint as President– except of course, when it comes to gay rights.

There, he’s fallen behind– big time.

Now, I know what you’re going to say– “Hey! There are bigger issues at hand! Like the fact the economy is collapsing!” However, let’s face it– there will always be wars, crises and other geopolitical concerns that will seem like more pressing demands than issues of social equality, which are, by their very nature, deep-rooted and long-gestating. The fact that Obama has stayed curiously silent during these 100 days, only occasionally mentioning gay rights (which admittedly, is an improvement over his predecessor) while during that time, we’ve seen two states legalize marriage and the nation’s most populous state hold hearing in the California Supreme Court on Prop. 8 is surprising. It’s hard to imagine a time when the discussion of equality for gays and lesbians has been more front and center in the broader populace and yet our president, who campaigned with promises to deliver an end to much of the legalized discrimination against LGBT people, has refused to put his hat in the ring.

It’s clear that Obama cares about gay people (or at least our votes) and his advisers have said that he’s begun to lay the groundwork on Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell, but on other pieces of key legislation, such as the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, he’s not been a leader. Of course, were Obama to stick his neck out for equality issues, he would undoubtedly draw fire from conservative quarters, but we’re seeing a distinct difference between the man on the campaign trail and the man in the Oval Office.

Barack Obama the Campaigner was about fiery and lofty rhetoric that spoke truth to power. He enveloped his candidacy in a personal narrative of a man who saw the American Dream, made it work for him and whose life goal was to make it accessible to all Americans, regardless of race, creed or sexual orientation. Barack Obama the President is another guy entirely. He’s shown a Machiavellian bent, interested more in arranging the chess pieces of political power to achieve his policy goals. Some critics say he’s afraid of a fight, his staff says he’s about keeping fights from ever developing.

This is all well and good. We never expected Obama to be All-Hope-All-The-Time, however at some point, he needs to deliver on his campaign promises to LGBT folks. His political capital is at its highest now, and as previously mentioned, the national discussion about LGBT rights is in the public eye. So, what is he waiting for? The power of the White House is enormous and even one speech, in which the president comes out and calls for Congress to move on LGBT equality bills would have enormous impact. As the Great Consensus Builder, Obama would be happy to find that he has support in Congress for some of the most basic rights measures. Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell and the repeal of DOMA may take some time, but if these things are to happen, the foundation must be laid– if not in the first 100 days, then when?

By:           Japhy Grant
On:           Apr 27, 2009
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  • 152 Comments
    • InExile
      InExile

      Very good points and very fair. The time table is the distressing part of this conversation. If the President spoke out now and managed to get things moving for gay equality they would be over and done with prior to the next election cycle, old news and no big deal. But if he plans to wait, we will be waiting forever! No politician is going to stick their neck out within 2 years of an election. Some people in our community seem VERY CONFIDENT that if our President does nothing in his first term, it will be done in his second and there is no rush. Well, there never has been a rush to do anything for the gay community ever. A lot can happen between now and 2012, for instance, what if all the maneuvering to get the financial crisis fixed does not work? Someone who was in power during the Clinton years like Newt Gingrich might be able to convince the public to elect him President. We have no guarantees in this life and should not gamble our futures on blind faith.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 7:56 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Qjersey
      Qjersey

      Oh the irony of a black man telling another minority group to wait for civil rights progress.

      When exactly IS the right time? Will it ever come?

      Apr 27, 2009 at 7:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bruno
      Bruno

      I really believe that one day when Obama is much older, he’ll regret not having been a leader on LGBT rights issues.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 8:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      Not only has Obama dropped the ball a bit on using the bully pulpit to advance gay civil rights legislation but he’s courted homophobic religious figures too. I think he means well but he really, really needs to understand that the Tony Dungy’s and Rick Warren’s of the world are just offensive. It’s not necessary to choose people that are totally on our side but to choose people that are really anti-gay is just wrong.

      On all other matters, I’m satisfied with Obama.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 8:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy_d
      andy_d

      “Yes we can”? NO WE WON’T!

      Apr 27, 2009 at 8:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Justin
      Justin

      I think that the continuing attacks on Obama are unfair and somewhat baseless. First off, this site never went this much on the offensive against our former president, who openly proclaimed the immorality of the gays. There are, though, important gay pieces of legislation working their way through Congress. A trans-gender inclusive ENDA is in committee. A Hate-Crimes bill is working its way through. These will pass and will be signed by President Obama. Maybe since he knows others are pushing them through, he’s pursuing other things that will be harder to pass in his 18-20 hour work days.

      One of the more intangible effects of an Obama victory is the number of state legislatures that switched parties in the 2008 elections. In Colorado our newly Democratic legislature, riding Obama momentum, has passed significant gay rights and partner-beneficiary laws (the most possible as outlined by our state Constitution). Things are going in the right direction for the GLBT community at multiple levels of government. Much of this is part of the afterglow of the ‘Hope and Change’ campaign that captivated us all.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 10:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • audrina
      audrina

      I THINK HE ROCKS! AFTER 6 YEARS OF THE REPUBLICANS, HE ROCKS ON EVERY OTHER ISSUE EXCEPT THE GAY ISSUES. THIS LESBIAN MOM STILL LIKES HIM THOUGH.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 10:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tyler
      Tyler

      First off: Does anyone here think, in his heart of hearts, Obama believes we shouldn’t be able to get married, federally? I don’t, and since I also don’t have a law degree and a cabal of poly-sci, and government degrees around me at all times, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

      He’s terrified about Clinton’s DADT push-backlash, and fairly so. You know who signs up for the military? It’s not happy club kids from Bay Area Montessori schools. I also suspect that this fear is spreading to other areas of pro-LGBT legislation. I could be wrong here, but from my vantage it looks like the Hate Crimes bill is doing rather nicely. I’m sure Obama has legislative wonks telling him not to stick his neck out, if the thing’ll pass anyway. Save the capital for when you can use it.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 10:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MTiffany
      MTiffany

      We shouldn’t really expect too much from this guy. This is the same guy, after all, that invited homophobe Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inaugural. Just goes to show that even for a black guy in America, some people are more equal than others.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 10:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rigs
      rigs

      After the first term, if we don’t dont see ENDA and Hate crimes bill signed, I’ll be PISSED and work against Obama if someone challenges him in 2012 primary. If he does sign them, I’ll be slightly satisfied and support him. IF he delivers on those, and either DOMA or DADT by 2012, I’ll be VERY satisfied and contribute/work for his re-election. Semms fair right?

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • steve
      steve

      If I am judging him on gay issues then, he is not satisfying me so far. If I judge him on every aspect of other issues affecting our country? He passes . I am one of the people who was polled about a month ago. they always poll me for some reason. I told them He is doing excellent in my opinion. The funny thing is that the polling questions did not include gay rights. They asked me like 15 questions. I was not shocked that alot of people think he does a great job.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @rigs: Now that Franken is all but guaranteed to pull off a victory, ENDA is probably a given, since Snowe voted for it in the past and Collins is a cosponsor. I’m more worried that ENDA will only cover sexual orientation, and not gender identity.

      I think ENDA will be passed later this year, though.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Wayne
      Wayne

      As far as gay rights and the equaltiy movement – Obama has been a total FAILURE. Period. No bones about it. Some might even call it a betrayal.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jose
      jose

      Only 55% of gays voted for him. What do you think he owes you?? 75% of Us latinos voted for him and He has just now started addressing issues of immigration, education in our community etc. Do you hear us throwing punches at him constantly? Because he has time to either prove us right or wrong. Every group has unresolved issues not just LGBT’s.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @jose: Exit polling showed about 73% of gay and lesbian voters supported Obama.

      And it doesn’t matter how many voted for him or not, because he made some promises, and he’s expected to keep them.

      @Wayne: What betrayal? He never supported marriage equality, but on everything else he’s with us 100%.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ANTHONY
      ANTHONY

      @Alec: what exit polls are you talking about? Most gay people did not vote at all. Thats public knowledge. The hillary supporters? Hallo?. Secondly, did BO promise you marriage? I must have missed that speech. Listen, this website is no different from Drudge or townehall blogs as far as Obama bashing. But spare your name alling energy, this guy is used to being called names, If Hannity/Coulter cant break him, I don’t think a gay man can.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 12:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CINDY
      CINDY

      I don’t know guys . I still like him.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 12:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rogue dandelion
      rogue dandelion

      If anyone is going to make claims about how many of which group voted, and voted for President Obama, please just offer a link supporting your claim. Or keep it to yourself.
      All I can say is that for a “fierce advocate for gays and lesbians” he hasn’t mentioned equal rights all that much, even less attempted to do anything to advance that goal. Other than celebrate a fat bigot with a national platform.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 12:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • InExile
      InExile

      Funny how anyone who is critical of President Obama is an “Obama hater”, “Clinton supporter”, or some other label. How about there are some of us that are not thrilled with silence on LGBT issues. Blind faith is a dangerous thing! I am satisfied with his handling of everything else other than LGBT issues.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 12:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael W.
      Michael W.

      @jose: Hispanics WERE complaining for a minute there. Just like every other minority, interest group and constituency. Even African-Americans, believe it or not, are upset that he doesn’t speak up enough for them individually (they want more lip service and rhetoric about “the struggle”) or have enough black cabinet members. Everybody’s got their fucking complaints.

      The difference is that there’s a large percentage of gays, if not the majority, who are still bitter as hell about Hillary Clinton’s loss. They’ll never get over it. I don’t mean to include Japhy as I think he was always an Obama supporter like me. But the vitriol you see from gays that you don’t see from any other group stems from the fact that a lot of us really, really hate Barack Obama and yearn for ways to express it while seeming legitimately angry about an issue. Look at how fast the racism and other ugliness came out after he selected Rick Warren to give that invocation for example. The wolves couldn’t wait to pounce.

      There are some legitimate complaints to be had but the nasty temper tantrums from the gay community are rather unique. Barack Obama is not going out to give speeches in support of gay rights. I don’t know where that idea came from. He wants to keep it under the radar as much as he can. The difference between he and McCain (who 27% of bitter, angry gays wanted to be our president right now) is that when congress delivers gay rights legislation to his desk, he’ll actually sign it into law. But anybody who wishes to turn on CNN one day and see Obama give a grand hour-long speech on gay rights needs to quit dreaming.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 12:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @rogue dandelion: The exit polling at 538, taken from CNN, indicates 70% support among gay voters, a decline from 77% support for Kerry, but still higher than support among Latinos or Asians, for example. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/obama-outperforms-kerry-among-virtually.html

      http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=USP00p3

      The exit polling indicated gay and lesbian voters made up about 4% of the electorate.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 12:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Michael W.:

      There were some African Americans that were angry that the US withdrew from the UN Racism conference, for example. Although I think a lot of the suspicion also has a lot to do with the memory of Bill Clinton throwing LGBTs under the bus with DADT and DOMA, it’s the way the Dems seem to operate.

      We are tired of being used.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lee
      Lee

      Agree almost 100% with what you wrote — particularly your most important point that foundations for change “must be laid” — save these factual errors:

      A. Rather than Obama’s “occasionally mentioning gay rights,” I am unaware of ONE time we have heard “gay rights” come out of HIS mouth since December. Yes, a statement [with two versions] that #1: “committed gay and lesbian couples should receive protection under the law” or #2: “committed gay and lesbian couples should receive equal rights under the law” was released in his name BUT it even for the oh, say, a dozen, nongays who read it, did more harm than good because if you read it objectively it’s NOT applause for the content of the Iowa court’s pro marriage equality decision [he "respects" it] but a REendorsement of “states’ rights.” In other words, he supports any state’s right to DENY gay equality, too. Worse, still, it needlessly kneed us in the groin by adding, “President Obama supports civil unions rather than same-sex marriage.” In other words, Obama, however unintentionally, ENCOURAGED anti marriage equality people to keep fighting us.

      Neither did Obama say ANYTHING about “gay rights” in his Holocaust speech last week. He only spoke of “tolerance” and you can tolerate someone and still deny them LEGAL equality. [See Jim Crow laws, etc.] This childish “selective perception” of what he actually said went on constantly during the campaign and contributed to the kind of mass hypnotic delusion that still leads people to write, “I think he really supports gay marriage” when he’s not DONE a goddamn thing yet for even civil unions.

      And it made people totally blind over to the fact that there was not ONE WORD about LGBT-specific issues in his official 80+ pages “Blueprint for America” distributed throughout the country during his campaign. The evidence of how important he actually thought we were [not at all] was there in black and white but gay media ignored it entirely.

      B. On March 29th, Defense Secretary Gates blew the bullshit out of a WH spokesman Tommy Vietor’s March 3rd claim that Obama had started “consulting closely” with Gates & Joint Chief’s head Mullen on a process of repealing DADT. Working on it at all has been “push[ed] down the road,” “IF” it happens at all.”

      Your point that any President, and certainly one this gifted and mulitasking, should be able to work on keeping his promises regarding LGBT issues, too, is evidenced by the broad array of constituencies “Newsweek” identified who’ve already benefitted:

      “If you’re a woman seeking pay equity, a child in need of health insurance, a nurse trying to avoid a layoff, a $25,000-a-year worker hoping for a tax credit, a passenger who would rather take the train, a group of parents trying to start a charter school, a homeowner facing foreclosure, a cancer researcher strapped for funding, a hiker looking for more wilderness, a small business tired of exorbitant federal loan fees, a historian trying to see some long-secret documents, a young person eager to take part in national service, a prisoner praying to avoid torture, then you got something tangible out of the president’s debut.”

      Granted, LGBTS are members of all of those groups, just as righting the economy benefits us all, but isn’t a gay person looking for job protection, a gay couple in need of Social Security benefits or a tax credit, or a perceived-gay kid praying to avoid another day of torture at school a higher priority than a gay “hiker looking for more wilderness”?

      As for the concern that he “would undoubtedly draw fire from conservative quarters,” consider all their hot buttons in the above list he’s already pushed, plus many other examples of broad government interference in “free enterprise” aka greed and dishonest businesses, advancing stem cell research, releasing torture memos. On the larger ones, he’s sent repeated e-mail blasts asking constituents to tell Congress to support his actions, even sent people door to door to do the same.

      Yet, while “risking his political capital” on countless other issues, what causes such a brilliant man to ignore how much the American people ALREADY support greater gay equality:

      87% of Americans support anti gay job discrimination laws.

      81% support service by out gays in the military.

      63% support expanding hate crime laws to include gays and transgenders—which makes it reasonable to presume they would support his condemnation of bullying in schools leading to children killing themselves and gays murdered in other countries, too].

      67% support gay couples getting Social Security benefits—which makes it reasonable to presume they would support his call for federal DOMA repeal as does the fact that:

      55% of Americans support “legally-sanctioned gay and lesbian unions or partnerships.”

      Obama’s not leading the American people, he’s not even following them. While they become more gay supportive with each passing month, while, as you point out, huge advances took place in his first 100 days BECAUSE OF OTHERS [through years of localized hard work and law suits, not, FOOLS, because they were inspired by him], he remains politically suspended, of no more use to us than baseball legend Ted William’s frozen head, as separated from its body as Obama has become from “the fierce advocate of gay and lesbian rights.”

      While it’s clear that “he’s just not that into” us, the more disturbing question is why so many are still blindly in love with him, more intent upon nursing their hero worship than healing the divide between gay Americans and the Constitution.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Michael W.:

      I can’t remember where I read this, though, but that may have more to do with a wider geographical distribution. In gayborhoods north of the Mason Dixon Line and in California, Obama won 80-90% of the gay vote. In the South, Obama won 55-65% of the gay vote.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @Michael W.: The 27% of gay voters who supported Senator McCain, at least the bulk of them (aroud 24%, IIRC) supported President Bush in 2004. They sure as hell weren’t going to vote for Clinton. The modest improvement McCain enjoyed over Bush probably goes to his rejection of the Federal Marriage Amendment and his relatively soft bigotry when compared to The Decider, who threatened to veto any attempt at repealing Texas’ sodomy law and who, by all indications, was pretty homophobic.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Alec:

      And some gays were still bitter about the Donnie McClurkin incident, hell, I’m still bitter about that. Is some of the reason for the Obama hate because of “racism?”

      Yeah, probably a little but not a whole lot, IMO.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/9935/

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael W.
      Michael W.

      @Alec: You lack context however, Alec, when you fail to mention that IN NO OTHER CONSTITUENCY DID THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE GAIN FROM THE PREVIOUS ELECTION.

      Not southern white working class men.

      Not suburban northeastern soccer moms scared that bin Laden might be hiding in their groceries.

      Certainly not Hispanics.

      Not Catholics.

      Not Jews.

      Not even Evangelical Christians.

      We’re talking about a Democrar who won Virginia and North Carolina for crying out loud!! This was a landslide, monumental election and decisive condemnation of the Republican party in which every single demographic under the sun sided with the Democratic candidate more than they did in 2004 or any other time in over a decade–EXCEPT FOR GAYS!

      So make sure you put that “little” 3% gain in its proper context, Alec.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lee
      Lee

      PS: Probably too late to head off any more such nonsense but:

      1. George Bush is no longer the one responsible. Obama scores no points simply for not being Bush. If that were reasonable, we should ALL get his salary because we’re not Bush either.

      2. McCain/Palin is not President. Obama scores no points simply for not being McCain/Palin.

      3. Hillary Clinton is not President. Obama scores no points simply for not being Hillary.

      4. Bill Clinton is no longer the one responsible. Obama scores no points simply for not being Bill.

      5. “Barry” alone has been at the free throw line 100 times so far but refuses to take a shot for us while the clock is running out.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Michael W.:

      Well, the going theory that I subscribe to is that’s how the vote was all along, only now are we polling the “GLBT population” correctly (that is outside of Chelsea, West Hollywood, and the Castro)

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • afrolito
      afrolito

      It’s completely unfair and ridiculous to judge a man by a mere 100 days in office. It seems to me that many on this site (and elsewhere) are rushing hard to brand President Obama an abject failure, when he has barely started the job. Is he supposed to single-handedly end homophobia, grant gay marriage on a federal level, and lead gay people to freedom like Moses?? Really??

      I think the man is doing an incredible job, considering the mess he inherited from the previous despot. Barack Obama is trying to keep the country from heading into a complete financial collapse, while fighting soaring unemployment, two wars, and nuclear threats from Iran and North Korea. Who really gives a shit about gay marriage? I don’t.

      Barack Obama NEVER PROMISED to fight for gay marriage, or grant it in some executive decision. If he did, he would have never been elected.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lee
      Lee

      “single-handedly end homophobia, grant gay marriage on a federal level, and lead gay people to freedom like Moses?”

      Afrolito, I see you’ve been reading his campaign literature.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael W.
      Michael W.

      @Lee: Is this what Clintonistas have reduced themselves to? The use of Republican talking points?

      “Bush is no longer in office so now Obama owns everything” is bullshit. Reagan was STILL blaming Jimmy Carter in 1984 and STILL getting points for not being Carter four years after he was elected. But a whole 100 days after Obama’s in office, we’re supposed to suddenly forget the 8 years of turmoil and destruction under the Bush regime that damn near destroyed this country even though Republicans to this day still whine about Carter’s ONE term.

      We can use Bush to put the actions of a president into context for as long as humanly possible. The nightmares are still fresh. If Hillary was elected on November 4th, I’m sure you’d agree.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @Michael W.: Actually, they did. 65+ voters increased their support for the Republican candidate. But, even beyond that, you’re forgetting the context: Bush won about a quarter of gay voters in 2000; this declined slightly in 2004.

      We knew Senator McCain was going to do better among gay voters than Bush. You’re arguing that in context it is horrid that gays decreased in percentage support for the Democratic candidate, but remember that the only issue of common concern for LGBT voters is gay rights. The only reason they vote for Democratic candidates in such lopsided numbers is because Democrats are gay friendly. And frankly, for a lot of gay conservatives (and there are more out there than you might imagine) there’s little to no support for ENDA or hate crimes legislation, making relationship recognition and, in the past, sodomy laws the primary concern.

      The Log Cabin Republicans had no problem endorsing Senator McCain; they pointed to his opposition to the marriage amendment and that was that. In 2004 they declined to support Bush.

      So is it surprising that the relatively tolerant McCain picked up some gay votes? Not really. Again, the only reason a gay voter has to support the Democrats, all things being equal, is their relatively pro-gay platform compared to the insidiously anti-gay platform of the GOP.

      Loyalty is earned. There’s a reason black voters overwhelmingly support the Democratic Party. Now the Democrats are in a position to prove themselves.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 1:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lee
      Lee

      To hold the CURRENT President accountable for HIS actions or INaction is not forgetting or forgiving the sins of his predecessors. Obama could leave office without helping gay equality advance one inch, and I would still think better of him than Bush pere or fils or Reagan whom I wish there were a hell for fueled by the millions of needless deaths from AIDS around the world becaues of his homophobic passive genocide.

      Of course, Bush fils and others should be burned in effigy on the steps of the Capitol every day simply for the financial melt down we’re in, for the slaughter on both sides in Iraq, et al.

      But the subject is antigay laws. That Obama inherited them is irrelevant. HE promised to WORK to change them. Therefore, evaluating him is still SOLELY about HIS failure because he’s NOT EVEN TRIED. Not SAID ONE WORD. And, short of a daily reoccurence of 9/11 or Katrina or similar overcompassing disaster, there’s NO EXCUSE for that when there is so much documentation of so many others issues he’s AT LEAST spoken about.

      The day I see him mention in public overturning even ONE of them even just as a GOAL, is the day I will consider that he might be genuine. In the meantime, by every measure, his gay rights agenda cup is full of nothing but year-old empty promises.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dennis
      Dennis

      I’ve posted on Obama and my thoughts on the rush to judgement before (and was nearly crucified for it)

      Now all I’m going to say is that if you’re unhappy with the administration’s performance on GLBT issues, GO AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IN THE REAL WORLD. Volunteer your time to an organization you believe in, or START an organization you can believe in, or at the very least write a big fat check to a group of people who are actually doing something to advance our cause.

      I love this site, and commend all my fellow volunteers. I’m no “perfect gay” at all, but I do volunteer my time and energy…If you’re bitching about Obama, and you aren’t doing something other than bitching and moaning online, then it is YOU, not Obama who is not doing enough. Look in the mirror, sweeties…Namaste!

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @Chitown Kev: McClurkin never really bothered me, for some reason. I think it is largely because it is super symbolic and consistent with Obama’s “dialogue” approach to conflict resolution (an important component of his foreign policy and one of the main reasons I supported him during the primary).

      I was more annoyed by Warren, but only because I thought it was a bad strategic move.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Alec:

      If there had been “a dialogue” in the McClurkin case, I would follow you, but there wasn’t. It was a naked and cynical (but understandable, in many ways) grab at black votes.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom
      Tom

      I took a 6 month leave from this site and I return to find nothing has changed–the design of the site still sucks (worst than before) and bitchy fags are still, well…bitchy fags looking for others to blame. Get off your asses and do something constructive instead of sitting around bitching all day. It is your representative from Congress who needs a fire lit under their butt regarding legislative issues, but of course, its much easier to point the proverbial finger at someone else.

      And as a disclosure, I supported Clinton.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stitch
      Stitch

      @Lee:
      You can scream all you want in your comments. Fact of the matter is, commenting on a blog or a news story won’t change the world. And no one has ever changed the world by bitching about it in cyberspace.

      If you don’t like what Obama is doing, why don’t you find a more constructive outlet for your anger?

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alec
      Alec

      @Chitown Kev: Maybe. McClurkin wasn’t even on my radar before the event, so I don’t know how helpful he was in rallying black social conservatives. On the other hand, his statement at the Saddleback forum, to a standing ovation, that he believes marriage is between a man and a woman, was played as an automatic recording in a pro-Proposition 8 ad on my cell phone. That pissed me off much more.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Amos
      Amos

      We also need to make sure that President Obama/Congress pass the Uniting American Families Act so that families like Shirley Tan’s and Tim Coco’s are not forced apart by unfair immigration law.

      We also need to keep a watchful eye to make sure that LGBT Families are included in the definition of families when Comprehensive Immigration Reform is introduced this year.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Alec:

      he was on my only because I’d always wondred how Obama would get the black vote (he had never really done that in Chicago). Obama began wearing religion on his sleeve and used McClurkin to scapegoat gay people. It was a cynical move by Obama, one that I didn’t anticipate because he had never done trhat before.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Alec:

      [REWIND]

      McClurkin was on mine only because I’d always wondred how Obama would get the black vote (he had never really done that in Chicago). Obama began wearing religion on his sleeve and used McClurkin to scapegoat gay people. It was a cynical move by Obama, one that I didn’t anticipate because he had never done that before.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 2:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris
      Chris

      @jose: actually 73% of gay people voted for him according to exit polls.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 3:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • The Lesbian Mafia
      The Lesbian Mafia

      Gutsy article. It’s not easy to express even the most remote disapproval of anything Barack does w/o being lambasted and attacked by.

      I get emails from straight people all the time asking me what is wrong with the gay community and why do they blindly support this guy who stated over and over and over again that he is against gay marriage because GOD IS IN THE MIX. Yet they somehow believe that poor Obama “had” to say it because he really would love for us all to be married. He didn’t HAVE to say that as some would like to believe.

      Straight people are onto the hypocrisy in LGBT giving passes to liberals for their homophobia. This article was a hard pill to swallow but I can’t help but think the hypocrisy in our giving passes to liberals for their homophobia will only breed more homophobia and an unfortunate backlash. It’s ok for Barack to spew his “christian” homophobic filth while adoring fans staunchly defend him? I don’t think so people aren’t that stupid.

      http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/27/were-here-were-queer-and-were-hypocrites/print/

      And btw Obama pledged to end the war in Iraq. He instead left over a 1/3 of the troops there and moved the war OF terror over to Afghanistan where he has sent now about 21,000 troops, and by years end there will be 60,000 troops, ESCALATING W’s the war OF terror.

      He has spent more than every president combined, ever, yet we still don’t have health care, Katrina wasn’t included in that shopping spree, the levy’s are still weak, millions have lost and continue to lose their jobs, he promised to end the patriot act but has instead EXPANDED it, he has bailed out every single filthy rich corporation and he’s still not finished, Chrysler is next, but Obama never takes the blame for anything, at all, ever. His fans manage to be thankful for the extra 30 bucks they’re getting in their unemployment checks while he siphons billions upon billions upon billions of tax payers dollars to the richest of the rich, so rich average people can’t comprehend what a billion dollars even looks like … and he’s doling out hundreds of billions of it to his friends. Sure, he inherited a bad economy but he didn’t inherit bailing out every single bank and filthy rich failure corporation.

      He bows to the most vile decrepit leaders then gets his media to lie for him about cleaning a piece of crap off his shoe. And in spite of the fact that he is such a weak president that he needs Frankenstein Olberman to scream and yell at everyone for him every night on national television like a moron, and that other guy, Rachel Maddow, to be sarcastic and play it off as cutesy while she stutters for an hour, then call it “news” … his approval rating according to recent gallop polls is still at 66%. Some say it’s lower. With all of the money and pomp and 24 hour media adoration, people are slowly waking up from the Obama Opium induced hypnosis.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 3:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • BOBBYLEE
      BOBBYLEE

      OBAMA ROCKS! NUFF SAID. MACCAIN WOULD HAVE SUCKED! AND STILL ALMOST HALF OF GAY FOLKS VOTED FOR HIM (MACCAIN). OBAMA OWES US GAYS NOTHING! NOTHING AT ALL. BUT HEY, LETS CALL HIM NAMES ALL DAY LONG. HE IS USED TO NAME CALLING FROM HANNITY ET AL. SO WE ARE HITTING A BRICK WALL THERE.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 3:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TRENT
      TRENT

      I don’t care if he supports gay marriage or not. He has a right to an opinion no matter how bat that opinion is just like pretty miss CA. I am more concerned where he was born. Is he really a citizen of US??. Some say he was born in Indonesia, some Kenya and some say he was born in south America.So which one is it?

      Apr 27, 2009 at 3:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @BOBBYLEE: @TRENT:
      trolls, begone!

      Apr 27, 2009 at 4:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      @Michael W.:

      Some gay people, like you, have Clinton tantrums every time a gay person criticizes Obama. You, Michael, are the one who is fixated on the past and fixated on Clinton. It makes you look about as sophisticated in your views as Newt Gingrich– just say “Clinton” and you salivate with Pavlovian rage. Get the fuck over yourself.

      Ask yourself if you would be satisfied with Obama’s record if Clinton had won the election and pulled the same shit he has. I cannot believe you would be. I would not.

      And, by the way, it makes no sense to excuse his indifference to gay kids getting beat up at school or murdered in Iraq by saying not all the gays voted for him. That is just the same to me as Rick Warren saying that equal rights for gays and lesbians do not matter because we are such a small percentage of the population.

      Obama’s ambivalence about gay people has been publicly on display for years. McCain SHOULD have gotten more votes from gays than Bush did. He’s not as far in bed with the evil bigots, nor does he appear to be functionally retarded. That makes him a better choice than Dubya. I have much more respect for the idiots like Michael who have hissy fits any time a gay person dares to treat Obama with less than total deference than I do for any one, straight or gay, that voted for McCain.

      But to excuse Obama’s lack of action because not enough gay people voted for him makes no sense. It suggests that the fact that it is the morally right thing to support equal rights for everyone is not especially important to you.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 4:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Wayne
      Wayne

      @Alec. Obama promised to end ALL of DOMA. Yet as president, Obama’s administration is actually citing DOMA as to why they plan on denying a federal judges order to issues benefits to same sex couples. That is the exact opposite of what Obama promised to do. That would constitute a “betrayal” to many.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 4:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      Obama’s approval rating has dropped from that last 66% down to to 63% according to the most recent poll. 2/3rds disagree with his policies.

      McCain-Obama-Bush … I don’t see much difference in policies. This president is looking much like the old one.

      Civil rights are not a matter of “opinion”. If black people thought that way they wouldn’t be allowed to vote, marry each other or any other race, or go to school with white people.

      Being against LGBT civil rights is not an “opinion” – it’s called being a bigot.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 4:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      @Lee:

      Oh, you’re on a roll. Hell for genocidal Reagan and Ted Williams’ frozen head in one day. Thanks. Keeping making me laugh in this context and stating the facts, please.

      And, Kev, it’s hard to engage in discussion with you when I agree with everything you say. But I do love to read it.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 4:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      @Tom: I love the gall of someone who calls everyone who criticizes Obama a “bitchy fag” then lectures us on the evils of finger pointing.

      Go the fuck away again. Stay away. Homophobic bigotry is homophobic bigotry, even when it come from a gay person. Please keep yours to yourself in the future.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:

      Uh, wow, a drop from 66% to 63%. 2/3 approve of ALL HIS POLICIES!
      Show me the poll on THAT!
      @Landon Bryce: Or, maybe people wouldn’t be bitching as much if this were Hillary Clinton. Well…I kinda doubt it, we bitched as much about Clinton after the DADT debacle and DOMA. And some of the Hillary posts on here are as bad as the Obama posts.

      @Wayne:

      Uh, isn’t that in the hands of the judiciary? all the Obama Justice Dept. can do is to offer an opinion citing the law. I mean, Jerry Brown sent that hack to the California Supremes and argued that Prop 8 wasn’t a revision at all.

      The Justice Department can only enforce the law, they cannot interpret the law or make law.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Chitown Kev:
      [REWIND]
      @fem in the city:

      Uh, wow, a drop from 66% to 63%. 2/3 DISapprove of ALL HIS POLICIES!
      Show me the poll on THAT!

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      CNN just gave those results as I was typing it. Wolfe Blitzer.

      63% approval rating and only 2/3 of the people agree with Obama’s policies.

      McCain-Barack-Bush-Hillary-Billary …. they may as well all be one person.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Chitown Kev:

      CNN just gave those results as I was typing it. Wolfe Blitzer.

      63% approval rating and only 2/3 of the people agree with Obama’s policies.

      McCain-Barack-Bush-Hillary-Billary …. they may as well all be one person.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sam
      Sam

      I’m not particularly worried that he hasn’t done much on ENDA yet. The hate crimes bill, for those paying attention, is moving along. DADT and DOMA were never going to be priorities the first year, so those don’t bother me either.

      What DOES bother me is that Obama hasn’t signed an executive order banning transgender discrimination in federal employment and banning sexual orientation and transgender discrimination among federal contractors. This is something he can do with the stroke of a pen. No need to get Congress on board. No one else to convince. And the public supports it. He just has to do it. And he hasn’t.

      THIS is the thing I think we should be holding him to account on. He said he’d do it, so what’s he waiting for? In this economy, especially, these protections would mean so much to LGBT workers in federal government or working for federal contractors.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:

      OK, I can’t remember the last time a President’s approval rating was that high into the 1st term (and I’m old enough to remember Nixon Ford, and Carter). 2 out of 3 Americans approve of Obama’s policies. I’d bet that’s better than reagan or Clinton after their 1st 100 days.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      sure well with round the clock media fanning for the past 2 years and wall street money Obama’s approval should be much higher than 63%. very telling.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Chitown Kev: sure well with round the clock media fanning for the past 2 years and wall street money Obama’s approval should be much higher than 63%. very telling.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 5:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lee
      Lee

      It’s always just a matter of time when even as caustic a critic as myself as to challenge the lunatic fringe.

      “McCain-Barack-Bush-Hillary-Billary …. they may as well all be one person.”???????

      This, ma chere, is known as not knowing the difference between shit and Shinola [and some gay foreigners who misheard Kiwi for KY ended up with deux appendages noirs, too, but that's another story]. And your theory would not make them just “one person” but hermaphroditic. Let’s leave Ann Coulter out of this, shall we?

      As I said during the election, despite my early distrust of Obama: at his worst he’s better than McCain at his best, as is Hillary and Bill, his many failures notwithstanding. Bush pere, while not as empty or evil as his son, only increased the attention to AIDS from when he was Vice President because ACT UP and others forced him to. And don’t get me started on Iraq 1 and blood for oil.

      As far as approval ratings go, I fail to see how they relate to this discussion as I’m unaware of gays being asked specifically how we feel about his first 100 days—yet another example of how invisible mainstream media wish to keep us. David Mixner polled his blog readers about whether or not failing to repeal DADT his year would be an Obama failure and, as I recall, 65+% said it would but it’s hardly scientific even if I agree with the results.

      And for the record, Bill Clinton’s overall approval rating upon the end of his Presidency, despite Monicagate, despite the DADT debacle, despite impeachment hearings, was the highest of any President since WWII – 66%. Higher than Eisenhower [59], higher even than St. Ronnie [63] – and higher than Obama’s now.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 6:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Lee: First of all you are so boring that could barely read past the first paragraph, all I heard was “shit from shinola” and really what else needs to be read from someone so illiterate they have to resort to name calling like a typical overly emotional knee-jerk far left wing nut.

      I will restate it for those to stupid to realize they are stuck in very tired partisan bull crap while the people you elect loot the country …

      HILLARY-BILLARY-MCCAIN-BUSHSr-REAGAN-W-RUMSFELD-PELOSI-BARRY … they all have the same plans. Or as Obama would say “MORE OF THE SAME”. It’s because of people like you who attack people for their opinions, members of the same “community” <– HA that’s a laugh. some community this is! You’ll defend Barky Obologna and follow him to the next bloodbath because you can’t admit you got duped. You voted for a bigot who spits in your face and you love it.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 7:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Lee: for Barky to have only a 63% approval rating after the showering of fake media for the past two years day in and day our, night after night after night the same bullshit and his million dollar pillars and his dummy Pussy cat dolls and WillIAM songs and brainless midgets like Matt Damon and the most uninteresting man on television Gloria Vanderbuit’s gay son whatshisface, can’t even remember that guys name he’s so impressionable … to have the constant showering of fake praise and all of the shrines built for this guy … his approval rating should be way higher than 63% for crying out loud. he came in after George W. Bush! His approval should be through the roof. Everyone hate George W. Bush. Problem here is that he is carrying out George W’s policies exactly as he is supposed to. This is why everyone is waking up so quickly to Barack regardless of the media lying and the delusions they try to plant in everyone’s minds.
      4 years and the guy is toast. Bye bye Bambi liar.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 7:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • AJ
      AJ

      Barack Obama’s entry into the presidency has been one of the most tumultuous, divisive and effective in history. That his approval rating stands somewhere between 63% and 70% is a good thing, IMO. Recent presidents have come in under much more benign situations and not fared as well.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 7:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      There is not one president in history who has ever received this much money from Wall Street and round the clock media drilling lies day in and day out over and over until it becomes some sort of manufactured truth. With all of the money that went into his campaign his approval rating should be through the roof far surpassing any president before him, particularly coming in after George W. Bush for crying out loud. The world should be rejoicing yet only 63% approval rating. Very telling.

      “The First 100 Days of the Glorious New Golden Age of The One”?

      What do you think about this: all that Hope and Change you heard ballyhooed last year ultimately amounts to a whole lot of shortages and rationing. Oh, and while they’re at it, the current Administration will also basically destroy the economy of the Midwest. Welcome to utopia! HB

      Apr 27, 2009 at 8:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lee
      Lee

      Just keep that shopping cart moving, Fem Honey, and the triangular aluminum foil hat on your sad little head.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 9:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      @fem in the city: Do you things would be better with MCcain? A man who feels most of the people on this site are sick living a “chosen lifestyle”.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 9:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ctprep
      Ctprep

      Do you think he’ll deliver us the world on a silver platter in 100 days? Give me a break! We won’t have equality right away. And Congress certainly isn’t going to work on it in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the great depression.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 10:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      @Lee:

      Is Fem in the City what happens when Kim Cattrall plays the role of Bill Perdue?

      I find it scary.

      And AJ is right– Obama’s popularity is amazing, and it should not be underestimated what that popularity does for the country. He does indeed give us hope, and what us is fueling the economy now?

      For the first time in four years, most Americans think the country is headed in the right direction. And that is due almost entirely to the fact that he is our president. Given the painful situations and choices he has already faced, it is astonishing that he has inspired our general confidence to this degree. I do not believe that the good he is doing us generally can be overstated, and there is no one I would rather see as president.

      I do not mean any of my comments on his disappointing performance thus far regarding LGBT issues to indicate that he is not otherwise amazing me. Even though I am angry that he seems so unwilling to prosecute those who planned and carried out a program of torture, I do understand that my viewpoint on human rights is outside the American mainstream to a degree that it would be inappropriate for him to do and say what I want regarding that issue. All politicians will disappoint me there eventually because they exist in the real world.

      And, of course, I understand that all politicians will disappoint me me most when it comes to gay rights.

      But it legitimately hurts and angers me that I live in one of my hero’s blindspots. It makes me angry when gay people excuse him for lagging behind the American populace on gay issues and for doing his best to avoid engaging with the issue. It is the fact that he will have a public conversation with Rick Warren, but not with Gene Robinson that I find inexcusable.

      The one substantive interview he has done on gay issues in The Advocate is excellent. It was what finally won me over. He doesn’t say the right things, but he is in exactly the right place to begin a genuine dialogue between the executive branch of the government and gay people. But he refuses to do it to a degree that hurts and bewilders me.

      That is why it bothers me so much that there are no open gays, lesbians, or transgender people on his Cabinet. He needs our voice at the table on all issues because our civil rights struggle is such a divisive on today. He has people who hate us there, too– not just at the Inauguration. But, again, we are not there. He does not have to hear our voices when he is making decisions. He has silenced us once again. And, much as I admire the man, I do not admire gay people who are so taken with him that they are willing to give him a pass on that.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 10:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      “Is Fem in the City what happens when Kim Cattrall plays the role of Bill Perdue?”

      Now that is a great quote lol!

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Approval ratings and comparative vote percentages aren’t important. They’re beside the point in an electoral system that’s inherently undemocratic, where the only action is two mirror-image parties squabbling over graft.

      The US is the biggest banana republic of them all.

      What is important is what Obama does. Obama is a bigot who opposes same sex marriage and torpedoed our chances to stop Prop 8 with “gawd’s in the mix.” He endlessly panders to bigots, an effort organized by Obama’s Minister of Pandering, Joshua Dubois. Now Dubois, like Rove before him is going to use the ‘faith based’ federal charities scam to consolidate political support among christer bigots.

      Since his election Obama’s taken the lead in that, postponing most of our agenda until the next election cycle when he’ll again drop us like a hot potato. Obama’s bigotry is a given and won’t affect his administration in a major way. Unwarranted loyalty to parties that consistently betray us is at least as unhealthy as being in the closet. It is, in fact, the last closet.

      What will have an effect on him power to govern is the growing awareness that’s he’s a lapdog of the rich whose tail wags a mile a minute as he hands them trillions and imposes austerity on unions and working people. That combined with his murderous wars against Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan and Pakistan will combine to defeat him politically. Then they’ll trundle out another lesser evil savior but the number of times that scam will be able to dupe enough people to continue their anti-democratic system is coming to a close.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      Barack has stated over and over and over again that he is against gay marriage because GOD IS IN THE MIX.

      Where is the mental block on that?

      DADT isn’t happening.

      We still have DOMA.

      Prop 8 passed thanks in large part to him telling his constituency for 2 years that he is against gay marriage.

      Far left knee-jerk wing-nut overly emotional liberals simply cannot disagree with anyone without having to attack like children and resorting to calling names. Ozombies cannot discuss an issue rationally so they do what the bully’s did to them in school … they call names and try to ridicule. All because they don’t like the person that isn’t like them.

      This is why it will be a short 4 years for Oblahblah and his zombie followers. This arrogance and attacking of anyone who dares to not worship their idol and name calling for the past two years will get us a maniacal right winger just as useless to gays as Obama.

      If this community isn’t drunk or high on street drugs or legal drugs, it’s addicted to a man they can fantasize about screwing for president and they put his presidency over thier rights! Dumb asses.

      Liberals and Their Invisible Homophobia:

      http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid52812.asp

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Is Landon Bryce what happens when Homer Simpson plays the role of any Democrat?

      Is that why Democrats are too dense to know they’re politically extinct?

      Yes and yes.

      It’s win/win for the independent GLBT left.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Landon Bryce:

      Obama’s popularity is dipping. Maaaaaany Democrats are regretting they voted at all, in this election. Most Dems I know didn’t vote at all. I have been a life-long Democrat but have removed myself from this tired partisan bullshit. I don’t put a president over my rights. Particularly not a bigot like Oblahblah.

      A Hero? You’re looking for a hero, in a politician?

      Most mature adults are looking for a president.

      A presidents is elected by the people to serve them. Get it straight bud. Gays are tax paying citizens deserving of rights.

      I don’t give a shit about your personal little hero complex.

      The only thing that is scary is that people need some kind of
      savior in their lives and think it’s going to come from a politician who is a bigot at that

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      Is Landon Bryce what happens when “I think I’m witty” crosses with “What Pig Flu doesn’t to the brain”?

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:

      You won’t find many zombies here.

      You know, the New York Times actually put this best; the Bush Administration;’s failed in providing security for the country. From 9/11 to Hurricane Katrina to a war that was entered on false pretenses to the economic crisis, the Bush Administration failed. I have a quote for you, I voted with the President 90% of the time.” You really can’t blame Obama for running for that one. And then to put that stupid cunt Palin within a heart attack of the Presidency, I’ll take Barack Obama in all of his imperfections (and Lord knows he’s not perfect.

      Unless you have an alternative to Obama at this poit in time, if you do please tell us. Don’t come in here whining that Obama is the problem and not present an acceptable alternative.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:

      Suggest an alternative or shut the fuck up!

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Chitown Kev: Have you heard the New York Times reported a huge loss for the quarter this past week? Even far far far left people like Alec Baldwin are criticizing it. ” When the Jayson Blair story erupted, I realized that if the Times couldn’t even properly and effectively assess their own, how could they be relied upon to assess public officials and figures? It was then that I stopped buying the paper. A lot of people did. In Manhattan, copies of the New York Times often pile up everywhere”.

      That stupid ugly big eared cunt Barky, the lap dog for the George Bush administration could go get fucked up his hairy puss pimpled ass. He’s bigoted pig and any queer who supports him should never complain if they get their heads smashed into a curb bc your pig president can’t manage to work on hate crimes legislation. So when you catch a beating or any young kid spills his/her blood on the street, thank Barky.

      He spits in your face and you love it. Dumb asses. What an embarrassment of a community. You’re probably half drunk, it’s about that time.

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      Obama is a pig

      Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:
      Solutions? What did we do wrong?

      Oh, and I haven’t drunk anything stronger than a few Red Bulls for a very long time.

      At least Bill Perdue offers up possible solutions, you may or may not like them but he does offer them up. I asked you once to offer one up, I am asking you again, otherwise consider yourself a troll.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 12:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      @Chitown Kev: She has zero class or brains.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 12:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @getreal:

      Oh, I know that.

      I mean, I could answer the questions that I am posing myself and so could the non-trolling posters. That she isn’t able to do so proves her agenda.

      That she has no brains to concoct solutions is why she’s now reduced to calling Obama a pig and a cunt.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 12:30 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • sparkle obama
      sparkle obama

      this thread has found its own level.
      some of you are gonna be *plucked* when we have all Our rights and you can’t hate on obama on these terms.
      i feel he is moving silently in order not to spook his constituencies.
      a lot of you were “hurt” when obama didn’t seize a chance to “lead” during the recent events in iowa, etc.
      some of you want obama to flame out more than you want marriage rights.
      yes, i said it & you know it’s true.
      you can secure your own rights.
      the president is not going to stop you.
      i presume that obama has chosen to represent the “christian” view in strategic deference to “tradition”
      he will preside impartially over the marriage equality revolution out of “respect” to the outgoing “white xtian male” state of mind, as well as the entrenched “Black xtian” mentality .
      i would probably do the same thing in his shoes.
      he is wise to take an outwardly conservative approach because trash are just *waiting* for a reason to hate him.
      i just find the hysterical gay reaction against obama to be fake, naive, bratty & embarrassingly premature!
      you want obama to Say It, right now.
      he don’t have to say it, mary.
      it’s gonna happen if You make it happen.
      just give obama the space to let it happen.
      listen, i realize it hurts that obama represents the Blacks & the Christians, but that’s america.
      it’s a problem.
      were you all expecting hillary to “come out” magically, after the election.
      ps
      mrs. clinton may be “dykey” but she’s married to an adulterer & she ain’t have no flavor!
      ps
      her church is a lot scarier than the obama’s! (oh yeah, they left their church after 20 years for you).
      with his intellect, personality, family, charisma & demographically ideal ethnicity, obama was born to lead (i mean this prosaically, not mystically).
      we are now existing in this moment and the smart thing is to Go With It.
      hold obama to his promises, standards and decency and make marriage equality happen for real.
      please girls – help Our president.
      don’t hurt him!
      we are all in this together and you can’t just be a reactionary c*nt on every other issue & then demand that everyone join hands with you to sing “kumbaya” on the issue of “gay marriage”.
      don’t be a single-issue fag!
      that sh*t is so old.
      the world is watching & She sees right thru you.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @fem in the city: You’re comments are a perfect example of something I’ve mentioned before. All that hopey-changey crap was a scam, and it’s slowly but surely being replaced by rage. Apologists for Hopey-Changey had best get used to being screamed at. The Obama administration is politically stillborn because it’s a mirror image of a McCain administration. And what’s really scary is that Biden, former Senator from BoA is only a heartbeat away the Presidency.

      I think we should keep it political. Obama’s a warmonger and now a mass murderer; he’s a terminal bigot and a tail-wagging lap dog for Wall Street. It’s those polices that we should oppose. People understand that but not necessarily the personal attacks. Almost all Republican or Democrat candidates would do exactly the same so it’s not a personal question, it’s political.

      We don’t want to get in the habit of real trolls who hurl accusations of pedophilia about and who accuse gay men of conspiring to spread HIV/AIDS. That would be disgusting.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • el polacko
      el polacko

      @audrina:

      yeah !! who cares about our own civil rights ?! he’s just dreamy, isn’t he ? egad.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue [Different person #1 using similar name]

      I hate myself I am a republican self hating closet case that lives alone with my cats please pay attention to me.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @sparkle obama:

      more or less the only problem I have with this is the type of xtians Obama is courting. There are puh-lenty of non-homophobic christians to choose from, some obsure, some not.

      the emotion that is always behind anger (but never far behind) is fear. and frankly, I feel that too a little bit. especially since I am one of the few people on this board that has watched obama for a very long time!

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @fem in the city: See what I mean. If you personalize it you end up could end up being a typical christer troll like the bigot who wrote comment 88. This one can’t spell and has the IQ and personality of a rotten turnip. Although I doubt you’d ever get as bad this sad little creature.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue [Different person #1 using similar name]

      I’m dying inside why doesn’t anyone like me?

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Look at me Im smart Im smart! Look at me mom Im smart don’t ignore me.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Im dead inside that is why I am so mad every day.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 3:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      @sparkle obama:

      It’s nice that even in your delusion you have been forced to admit that our reservations about Obama and gay rights have mostly proved to be accurate. Compare this insanity with the insanity you were posting a couple of months ago– even you are admitting that you have been dead wrong. It’s fun to see. Keep it up.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 6:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      Some of these comments are hilarious. I love the ones where they start by talking about how 0bama isn’t coming through on any of his rhetoric, then when someone else says the same thing they start to defend their “hero-daddy”. But the funniest is the comments comments that say, “I have no problem at all with not getting my civil rights, everyone is entitled to an opinion”. Me and my partner were cracking up all night then we went and had a fuck-fest, woke up bright and early and are laughing at all the idiots who have to come to Dada’s defense Barky has become part of their identity, they are so overly emotional and hpersensitive to their feelings that if you have a problem with aaaaanything their Daddy does, they get rrrrrrrrreeeeal angwy and their gonna bully you like they got bullied in school.

      Barck Obama spits in your face and you love it. I better not hear any of you queens complaining about Mormons, or the Miss America c contestant, or anyone who is against gay marriage because Barky Oblahblah holds the same exact views, the only thing is he is in a position to make sure you NEVER get your civil right to marry. So go on Ozombies defend your Daddy during this next bloodbatch we are about to witness. Now all the wacko’s love war huh? What a bunch of embarrassing dumb asses this community is. They laugh while we fight amongst each other. You defend Dada and stab your brothers in the back. Stupid dumb knee-jerk far left wing nuts set this community back.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Bill Perdue: See all these sheeple know how to do is automatically go on defense mode for Barky. They get so emotional and hyper and upset because they know they’re wrong but can’t admit it.

      Remember when you couldn’t say George W. Bush was wrong about Iraq they called you un-American.

      Now if we call Barky Zero out on the fact that he is liar and has thrown gays under the bus they call you names too. This is the infantile mind of far left liberals, and this is why they are so easy fool. Zerobama spits in their face and makes one statement and the queers go goo-goo for “Gobama” they chant like imbeciles, then they go to their psychiatrists and ask for a higher dose of Zoloft then go out drinking all night in Weho. Obots need someone to tell them how to feel because they are obsessed with their feeeeelings.

      Obots are all starting to eat their words, it really IS funny to watch them as they stand there with their thumbs in their mouths “You mean 0 isn’t going to come through on his promises? I thought he loved me. I touched him when I touched the screen and voted for my “hero”.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @getreal: … you are trash honey. Lowly average and ordinary forgettable trash. The only remarkable thing about you is how forgettable you are.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Chitown Kev: Oh and when you were reduced to calling Palin and cunt that’s class? I forget how the overly emotional far left wing-nuts are. So easy to make them cry. Awe poor little people with Daddy issues had no one to stick up for them when they were bullied in school and now they’ve grown up and learned how to be even bigger bully’s.

      So let me get this straight you hypocrite … you calling Palin a cunt is high class … but when I call Barky 0 a pig that’s low class?

      Right I forget how the far left-wing nut out of emotional control liberals don’t have to make ANY sense. I forget that. Silly me.

      Funny thing is I’m a registered Democrat and it’s people like YOU that have turned me off to the knee-jerk far left-wing-nut party. Everyone is calling you out on your garbage.

      It’s the Obots like you that will ensure that Bambi will only serve one term. If your immature minds were open to regular criticism like any other president gets, there would be a dialogue and when there is dialogue issues get solved. When far left overly emotional left wing-nuts resort to calling names there isn’t anything good that can come of it.

      Far left overly emotional liberal wing-nuts cannot argue on the issues, all you know how to do is call names and pick fights because you are wrong and have nothing to offer except name calling just like your leader.

      Obama-Obama-Obama … chant you fools.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      For the record I think you are correct about Palin. Credit where credit is due. I also think I am correct about 0.

      Take care wing nuts I’m off to have some morning sex, sounds like you could use some.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John from  England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
      John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)

      @fem in the city:

      Hey you’re reacting just as crazily as the people you’re insulting..

      @ EVERYONE

      I’m confused. He’s only been in for 100 days. What did he say he was going to do within 100 days for gays that HE hasn’t done?

      I’m being serious here, I’m just curious. I don’t want any emotional shit coming into the answer, just a simple answer. And if someone can back that up with a link, that would be really useful.

      Otherwise this discussion is nothing but hot air and noise. WHERE the hell did he actually, factually SAY that ‘within 100 days that I am in charge I will do x, y and z towards gays’.

      When?

      To say this is irrational and like the twilight zone would be too kind.

      I know this is a gay site but shouldn’t you be calling Obama out on Summers or Geithner? I mean some of you self obsessed mentalists are getting worked up about him not doing something he was maybe or maybe not supposed to do in 100days when he has 2 free market and Goldman Sachs brothers in control of the finances in your country??!

      This is like the Perez Hilton argument again. Everything is soo black and white.

      If you can’t see a president mentioning gays in a speech about discrimination in a speech being affective, then you’ve obviously never entertained higher education were it is required to complete essays and through this skill you LEARN the concept of measuring short term and long term affects, as well as sourcing wide sources that are contradictory to get an understanding or grasp of the subject at hand.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Bill Perdue: You’re right, Bill. It’s easy to get caught up in that. Yet somehow the issues don’t seem to matter to them. I don’t understand it. I’ve only seen you state facts on this post and they call you names like first graders, it’s really astonishing to watch.

      A person state facts and have genuine concerns that are really important to you personally that affect you and your family, and all they can manage is to hurl insults which begets insults, it’s a game that you end up in the middle of and don’t even understand when it started. Looking back I can’t even believe my participation in these comments. Is it possible that they care about Obama more than they care about their civil rights? They just want you to shut-it and let them live in their dreamworld and will attack you for stating a simple comment on a blog for crying out loud. I don’t understand why simply making an unsatisfied statement about a presidents policies only gets you insults and attacked by the gay community instead of an actual cognitive response. It really is no wonder they don’t care to come through on any promises, they know we will end up fighting each other and expend all our energies there incapable of organizing and holding them accountable. Sad actually.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 7:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HYHYBT
      HYHYBT

      @TRENT: That’s because he wasn’t born, he coalesced.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 10:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @John from England(used to be just John but there are other John’s): no, i “responded” to being attacked for my opinion. i forgot what animals certain ppl and fell into it. this is how it is whenever you so much as express anything but utter idol worship for Barack Obama. you’re right that I shouldn’t respond to the lowest common denominator. the facts speak for themselves. i don’t need to let people take out their frustration at their hero on me.

      so we’ll go over this again because it seems that there is some kind of block to facts.

      – Barack spoke to his base for two years stating over and over again that he is against gay marriage, his base listened to him on election day and voted Yes n 8.

      – He pledged to end the Patriot Act but has instead EXPANDED it.

      – He pledged to begin bringing the troops home from Iraq but has now turned around and said he is leaving 1/3 of them there so we will continue to occupy Iraq. He has moved the war from Iraq to Afghanistant and has sent close to 21,000 troops there and there will be 60,000 troops there by years end ESCALATING the war OF terror. This is from someone who lied to us for two years saying we would end the war. Instead he is ESCALATING George W’s war. The administration is ignoring gay Iraqi’s being murdered in response to us being there.

      – DADT is being pushed to another time.

      – Nothing happening with DOMA at all not even a mention.

      – He refuses to simply sign protection for Transgener in the work place.

      – He has given hateful homophobe’s like Warren a platform to spread their hate and have made them famous hence can spread their message further and become even richer if possible.

      – McClurkin

      – He has and continues to bail out Wall Street bankers and failure corporations to the tune of billions upon billions with tax payers money while millions lose their jobs, he insures they have billions to do with what they please ie: give themselves hundreds of millions in bonuses, they are given money so irresponsibly that they can get away with these hundreds of millions in bonuses and that is just the things we have heard about. He is not finished yet either, Chrysler and the MTA are next.

      – He promised senior citizens who made under 50,000 would not have to pay any taxes but has not included that in his stimulus.

      – He has not included anything in his trillion dollar stimulus for Katrina and the levy’s are still a threat.

      … the list goes on about the bold faces lies and deception.

      If I cannot so much as come on a website and state the facts of this betrayal without having the far left wing go nuts and attack with insults and pull people into name calling insults and arguments then seriously, there is a bigger problem in the community than just Barack. If it is this easy for the gay community to be pulled into fighting with each other instead of holding politicians accountable to promises they made for us and got them elected based on those promises, then these people who chose to pull people down with them are a serious threat to the community and should have to submit to the facts over and over day in and day out.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 12:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      thanks to bill perdue, wayne, lesbian mafia and alec, excellent points.

      For the people who say it’s ridiculous to judge BO after 100 days … um … that is the basis of the article – the first 100 days. He managed to send 21,000 troops over to Afghanistan and escalate a war on terror and expand the Patriot Act. A lot can be done in 100 days that can be judged.

      Anti-war Obama has escalated the war in a mere hundred days.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      Fem in the City has started thanking the voices in his head!

      And some real people, too.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:

      solutions, honey….who should we vote for the next time and why? based on a 100 day record? You have long established how you feel about Obama (personally, I’m not crazy about him).

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      I just read his report card on Yahoo news ( a right leaning new organization) put together by 70 different sources and he got a very good rating actually. Seems like I left this thread way too early last night it looks like things go interesting. Am I the only one who thinks Fem in the City is just Bill Perdue’s newest posting name? Just saying.

      @fem in the city: Whatever you say. This coming from a “woman” who brags about being in the mafia and condescendingly calls other women honey. I don’t think you are a woman. I don’t believe a woman straight or gay on a gay/gay friendly website would address another woman with even a hint of misogyny. You may fool these men but from about 20 different things I have read in your posts it is clear you are a guy pretending to be a woman. Nice try but you have been exposed.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Landon Bryce: Landon Bryce thinks he’s a witty queen but is still cleaning the pussy pimples from his ass.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      @Landon Bryce: That is not a woman.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 1:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Chitown Kev: Just bc there isn’t an alternative doesn’t mean we have to continue to worship Obama. I know you have said you aren’t crazy about him then why do you defend him and insult someone from your own community who expresses their views the same way you or anyone else feels free to do? Why is when you criticize Barack it’s Ok but when someone else does it, you will jump to his defense and insult and attack members of your own community who are subject to the same discrimination you are? Barack and Michelle have a good life. If he only serves 4 years as president of the United States he will have had a better life than 95% of the population. Gays are still murdered in the streets. He promised to be a fierce advocate. It would be one thing if he didn’t make such promises to LGBT and went about his presidency but he made some serious promises and used the LGBT vote to win this election. The reason there aren’t any better alternatives to vote for is bc the gay community will fight tooth and nail for presidents like Obama who break promises time and time again, history repeats itself, we do not hold these guys accountable and will instead rip each other apart. They have campaign strategists that study our behavior and know that gays will attack each other and bring each other further down the road of destruction before they will hold a president they feel invested in accountable. To continue to participate in blind partisan loyalty is suicide. This community is in a lot of trouble and to watch the way we treat each other on blogs and such is an indicator of how divided we are and how Obama plays right into that. I have never seen the gay community this divided and behaving this ugly. I don’t have an alternative but it doesn’t mean I am going to live in a fantasy world and not hold him accountable for all of the promises he made and how he plays this community for fools.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @getreal: Dear Get it Real. I have no idea what you are talking about. Did you forget to take your meds? I never claimed to be a woman honey and what the hell are you talking about me being in the mafia you moron?

      Did you buy the WillIAm song “Obama-Obama-Obama” … do you sing that song to your friends while you wear your foil hat?

      Barky must have felt so bad for that Miss America christian when she didn’t win for saying she’s against gay civil rights. After all your bigot idol thinks you don’t deserve to be married because GOD does not approve of your relationships.

      See the problem with knee-jerk overly emotional wacko’s like you is that you cannot simply allow people to freely express an opinion it threatens you because you know the honeymoon is over. You were so happy in your My Little Pony world dreaming up fantasies that your little pony Barky gave you.

      The same way you have the right to express your idol worship for Barky Obologna is the same way anyone else has the right to state the facts about him without you turning into a pile of tears and attacking free speech. This is still a free country, queen.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      @fem in the city: So I was right you are not a woman. You referenced the mafia in your post 104. Like when you use your other posting name you don’t actually think about what you type you just regurgitate talking points you have elsewhere and pass them off as your own ideas. The only one who seems to worship Obama is you, you seem to blame him for everything wrong in the country and in your life. The only one on this thread overly emotional is you calling people wackos and talking about genital pimples and a lot worse. This is not the behavior of a rational and balanced adult. This is a political discussion but you seem barely capable to discuss politics you just go off on semi-coherent tangents about your fantasy that the President a man who has voted across the board in his career in favor of gay rights except for marriage equality (which will happen at his timetable not your). It would be childish to pretend the President has not done good. Maybe you should take all that irrational anger that you vent on anyone who disagrees with you and try to use it to take proactive political action. In my work as an activist I have found that 99% of the time those spitting the most venom are usually doing the least for their communities.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      Typo I meant your fantasy that the President is evil.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @fem in the city:

      Ok, and a gay man can get stabbed 57 times and get away with it in a socialist run country like Spain. Even if every LGBT priority were passed today, including marriage equality, it would not stop discrimination.

      I’m all for criticizing Obama, but some of you seem who are so hard on him seem to think that he’s supposed to be a Messiah and snap his fingers and the Congress and the courts are to do his bidding. I don’t think that and I never did.

      Obama is both the President and the head of the Democratic Party. he can take a lead but so can Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. They are the ones who have to get the large majority of the legislation to his desk to sign.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      @getreal: Maybe you should learn from Chitown Kev on this issue. Realistic, measured, thoughtful expectations and insights.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @getreal:

      Yawn.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K9dS9wl7U

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73oZ_pe1MZ8

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @getreal: Try to keep it to the facts honey. All you can manage to do is insult with popcorn psychology.

      Facts:

      – Barack spoke to his base for two years stating over and over again that he is against gay marriage, his base listened to him on election day and voted Yes n 8.

      – He pledged to end the Patriot Act but has instead EXPANDED it.

      – He pledged to begin bringing the troops home from Iraq but has now turned around and said he is leaving 1/3 of them there so we will continue to occupy Iraq. He has moved the war from Iraq to Afghanistant and has sent close to 21,000 troops there and there will be 60,000 troops there by years end ESCALATING the war OF terror. This is from someone who lied to us for two years saying we would end the war. Instead he is ESCALATING George W’s war. The administration is ignoring gay Iraqi’s being murdered in response to us being there.

      – DADT is being pushed to another time.

      – Nothing happening with DOMA at all not even a mention.

      – He refuses to simply sign protection for Transgener in the work place.

      – He has given hateful homophobe’s like Warren a platform to spread their hate and have made them famous hence can spread their message further and become even richer if possible.

      – McClurkin

      – He has and continues to bail out Wall Street bankers and failure corporations to the tune of billions upon billions with tax payers money while millions lose their jobs, he insures they have billions to do with what they please ie: give themselves hundreds of millions in bonuses, they are given money so irresponsibly that they can get away with these hundreds of millions in bonuses and that is just the things we have heard about. He is not finished yet either, Chrysler and the MTA are next.

      – He promised senior citizens who made under 50,000 would not have to pay any taxes but has not included that in his stimulus.

      – He has not included anything in his trillion dollar stimulus for Katrina and the levy’s are still a threat.

      … the list goes on about the bold faces lies and deception.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @Chitown Kev: People are hard on him because they are angry. We already went through this with Bill so we are really angry now.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @getreal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_rIAkb_v8

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fem in the city
      fem in the city

      @getreal: i referenced four people. read without the overly emotional baggage you carry that blinds you.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Landon Bryce
      Landon Bryce

      @fem in the city:

      I certainly agree that I am hard on Obama because I am angry and went through this all with Clinton before.

      And, again, sweetie: go back on the meds. Ultimately they are your friends– you’ve got to be able to channel the passion as well as feel it.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 2:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      @fem in the city: This is a political discussion no one is trying to attack you. I would suggest cooling your jets having an emotional melt down does not help your cause at all. You seem very excited and overly emotional today Bill. Not sure why you sent me the flying horse cartoon link. I guess the voices in your head told you to.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 4:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chitown Kev
      Chitown Kev

      @Landon Bryce:
      LMFAO

      Apr 28, 2009 at 4:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Chitown Kev: Spain, like England and a number of other countries are run by left centrist social democratic parties, not socialist parties. But you’re right when you say that merely passing laws is not a solution. It never will be in a dog eat dog society whose government is run of, by and for capitalist looters.

      The only feasible solution awaits a fundamental overhaul of the system by creating a government run by and for working people and minorities. That will never happen voting for this or that lesser evil. People like Fem in the City don’t have to explain why they don’t vote for a bigoted party. That’s obvious. On the contrary those who voted Democrat are the ones who have to do the explaining.

      Obama’s reactionary policies, ironically, are laying the groundwork for a new 1776. And so would McCain if he’d been elected. Obama, like McCain, gives the rich whatever they want and then some. At the same time he imposes harsh austerity measures on workers. He escalates the war and he has no answers for the tremendous problems created by anti-GLBT bigotry, racism, misogyny, runaway environmental degradation and immigrant bashing. He has no choice but to pursue policies that aid the looter rich, and neither do Pelosi and Reid. Their party as a whole is a non-reformable right centrist party whose only goal is to feed at the trough of corruption. If they have to toss us under the bus again and again they won’t flinch.

      One of the first goals of a socialist government would be to suppress bigoted cults, tax them to death, permanently close their schools and impose harsh sentences on bigoted harassment, verbal abuse and violence.

      Apr 28, 2009 at 11:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      No. 122 · getreal @fem in the city: “This is a political discussion no one is trying to attack you.”

      No. 83 · getreal @Chitown Kev: She (fem in the city) has zero class or brains.

      Which time were you lying getsevenwithgaymen?

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @getreal: “Am I the only one who thinks Fem in the City is just Bill Perdue’s newest posting name?”

      No. Landon Bryce, aka He Who Enjoys Laying Under The Bus But Only If It’s A Democrat Bus does to. You make a lovely couple.

      But feel free to go ahead and ask Queerty if I, Charles Mueller and Fem in the City post from the same city or have the same IP. If you’re afraid o9f being exposed as a paranoid by doing that we’ll just add it to your long list of christer lies. And if you really believe you ought to talk to your psychiatrist about doubling you dose of lithium.

      This is our dopey little Church Lady demonstrating her rage at gay men, this time at fem in the city. “I don’t think you are a woman… You may fool these men but from about 20 different things I have read in your posts it is clear you are a guy pretending to be a woman. Nice try but you have been exposed.” Lots of men in the GBT communities describe themselves as Fem. Only bigots like getreal, aka the Church Lady get angry about it.
      Then Church Lady exclaims in shocked christer disbelief “That is not a woman.”

      Only bigots like getreal, Dobson and Robertson get upset about GLBT gender identity questions. Only bigots like getreal, Dobson and Robertson call us pedophiles and claim that African American gay men plot to spread HIV/AIDS. Getsevenwithgaymen seems to forget that all men and all women should insist on the use of condoms.

      Why does getsreal the Church Lady not understand that prevention of HIV/AIDS hasn’t been a medical question for years? It’s a political question. The US government, pandering for the votes of religious bigots treats HIV/AIDS, like the Church Lady does, as a “gay disease”. They refuse funding for an all out mass education campaign and for condoms and needle exchanges for affected populations. They refuse special funding to pay for medical care, housing and other aid for uninsured people with HIV or AIDS.

      The answer to the above questions is that getreal is a Church Lady who believes in sky fairies but hates real fairies. She claims to have a secret lover named jebuz who tells her what to think and who she believes that The Excorcist is a documentary.

      Sad.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue: Why has this troll not died yet? He is here to attack other gays and anyone who supports us. Why because he is a republican wannabe self hating closet case. Do the world a favor you bitter old queen and jump off a bridge. We will all applaud your absence.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @anderson cooper is my future husband: Why is this stright chriter still bothering to post? Who pays him?

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dieter
      Dieter

      @audrina:

      lol..it was 8 years not 6

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      If this idiot hates everyone on here so much why doesn’t he go away no one would miss him and several people commented it is a nicer site when he isn’t posting. This dude is seriously disturbed and crazy. I have seen him just invent lies to use against anyone who is sick of his hog ways. I have a vision of a wrinkly old man with a pinched expression a pot belly with crumbs down the front of his pajamas mad at the world because he hates himself and hasn’t been laid in 10 years.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      I’m gay and an agnostic I don’t go in for the Jesus freak bag.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @anderson cooper is my future husband: the hsterical bigotry of straight jebuz jumpers like acimfh is something we’ve seen before and we’ll see again.

      Try some other approach. This one is boring.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue: Most people just ignore your posts and call you idiot on other threads. I ignore your long posts because they all saying the same thing. Boo-hoo this person disagrees with me so they are the anti-christ this one doesn’t like me so they eat babies. You just make up drama because you have no life you come on here to start fights to force people who think you are a joke to talk to you. Unlike you I don’t get social security my boss pays me at my job. Who pays you the republican party? Do they pay you to makes gays look crazy haters who are mad at the world because you do that pretty well. You are a low life. That is why all this week when all these crazies came on the site defending ms amercia so many people told them to stop acting all bill perdue your name is synonymous with crazy here. I must have seen 7 different people in the past week and a half do that. You are not adding to this site everyone is sick of your crap get used to it.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue: You are so hysterical you can’t even spell. I’m not straight or a believer of god so stop playing the victim. Everyone on here hates you and were all gay.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @anderson cooper is my future husband: I don’t bother using a spellcheck with christer straigth troll.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue: Call me whatever you want. We all wish you would go away because you are every guy on this site’s nightmare you are a bitter old queen with no friends, no life, no man, all you have is your anger and elf hatred. Call me straight I’ve been called worse call me a Jesus freak I think it is funny just go to the angry loser site we have all seen your pro-Bush bull for what it is crap.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @anderson cooper is my future husband: I love elves. It’s you christian straight bitots that I despise. And so does everyone else here except you and and your bigot friend getsevenwithgaymen.

      Yawn.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue: Yeah actually be afraid because we are all straight in fact we are all MORMON on this site be afraid run away. Be afraid as a matter of fact everyone is straight but you.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      Bill Perdue is sad guy who can’t get laid and has no life or opinion except that he is mad that this one picks on him and that one picks on him every noticed all this bozo does is feud with people. He does it to get attention because otherwise everyone ignores him. We have all been so glad to be rid of him lately and hope he was permanently gone he will be any old man who blows his stack 10 times a day will have a heart attack sooner rather later.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      He is a closet case coward who posts all over this site he never makes any sense just posts crap to feel important because he is lonely. He is daily going after all these different people like a stalker. I challenge any guy on here to find a thread where he is on that he is not attacking someone or playing the victim saying someone is attacking him but no ever does. He is just a semi-senile old loser who bullies people from behind a computer but would poop his diaper if he ever had to have a real confrontation so he baits people and makes up lies about people. I guarantee he has not been laid in forever that is why he is such a bitter anger douche.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      The second someone stands up to him he runs like the coward he is he only picks on people who will talk to him with respect. Talk to him the way he talks to everyone and he runs. Typical that is how to get rid of him act like him. He can dish it out but he can’t take it now everyone else can enjoy the site with out his 10 paragraph diary entries.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 1:21 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @anderson cooper is my future husband: @anderson cooper is my future husband: @anderson cooper is my future husband: @anderson cooper is my future husband:

      Boring.

      If you’re too straight or too stupid, and you are, to address political points then please be so kind as to crawl back under your t rock and leave LGBT politics to GLBT people to discuss. We have business to attend to and straight bigots like you and getsevenwithgay men don’t have a chance in hell of derailing our struggle for equality.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 3:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Alec: “@Wayne: What betrayal? He never supported marriage equality, but on everything else he’s with us 100%.”

      @afrolito: Who really gives a shit about gay marriage? I don’t. Barack Obama NEVER PROMISED to fight for gay marriage, or grant it in some executive decision. If he did, he would have never been elected.

      This is an example of the politics of failure junkies, those who continue to support the Democrat and Republican parties or Obama personally despite their long record of bigotry, betrayal and periodically driving the bus over us.

      Would these same people be for same sex marriage if Obama were. In a heartbeat, which makes their abject apologetics and accommodations to his bigotry that much more despicable.

      Civil unions, which Obama half heartedly endorses, while supporting the states rights of bigots to forbid them are a form of second class citizenship endorsed by bigots like Obama and the Clintons. That’s why activists in Vermont, Connecticut, California and New Jersey who had or have civil unions/partnerships continue to push for real rights and oppose civil unions.

      California, where our efforts do defend SSM were defeated by Obama, have seen waves of growing mass demonstrations for SSM. As a result the March 1, 2009 Field pools shows that 48% of the state’s registered voters say they would vote for SSM, with 47% against and 5% undecided. That’s still down from May of 2008 when the Field Poll showed us leading by 9 points, 52% to 42% in favor of SSM.

      2008 – http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2268.pdf

      2009 – http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2301.pdf

      From May until November the organization of bigots (primarily fundamentalist christians) by Obama’s campaign under the direction of his Minister of Pandering Joshua Dubois combined with Obama’s infamous statement “gawd’s in the mix” combined to galvanize the bigot vote and defeat SSM.

      The effort to build a mass, democratically organized SSM in California and nationwide will mobilize our communities, eventually compel recognition of SSM and further isolate bigots like those notorious christers Obama, the Clintons and McCain.

      Win/win/win for the LGBT left.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 3:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue:AKA as Heterodefenseleague What are you 80 if that is the best insult you can come up with to call gay men straight you are as pathetic as everyone on here knows you are. You are a sad closet case who probably has a wife asleep in your bedroom as I type this you are so jealous that there are gay men who are happy with themselves not anger bitter lonely queens like you you come on here desperate for attention and determined to do nothing but cause trouble.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 4:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      @Bill Perdue: AKA Heterodefenseleague He is a closet case coward who posts all over this site he never makes any sense just posts crap to feel important because he is lonely. He is daily going after all these different people like a stalker. I challenge any guy on here to find a thread where he is on that he is not attacking someone or playing the victim saying someone is attacking him but no ever does. He is just a semi-senile old loser who bullies people from behind a computer but would poop his diaper if he ever had to have a real confrontation so he baits people and makes up lies about people. I guarantee he has not been laid in forever that is why he is such a bitter anger douche.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 4:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • anderson cooper is my future husband
      anderson cooper is my future husband

      Bill Perdue is sad guy who can’t get laid and has no life or opinion except that he is mad that this one picks on him and that one picks on him every noticed all this bozo does is feud with people. He does it to get attention because otherwise everyone ignores him. We have all been so glad to be rid of him lately and hope he was permanently gone he will be any old man who blows his stack 10 times a day will have a heart attack sooner rather later. if we are all lucky. Maybe a big dose of his own medicine will get him to stick to the issues instead of the lies and stalking.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 4:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John from  England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
      John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)

      @fem in the city:

      I know BUT did he say that he would so something for GAYS within 100 days??

      Show me the link.

      No one is talking about broken promises, I’m asking WHY he is supposed to have done something re gays in 100 days. Where did he promise, just send me the link..

      Simple.

      Scream and shout to people who care. I think you should have greater issues with the Obama administration because of your financial team no?

      Apr 29, 2009 at 12:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getreal
      getreal

      Well I guess today counts as progress although we have a long way to go.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 9:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Christopher Sorick
      Christopher Sorick

      Good lord! He’s only been in office 100 days! Granted, he made some promises on Gay Rights issues, but give it some time. Things aren’t going to change overnight, and even if things do change, there is going to be a lot of back-lash from a lot of different areas. Like I said, give him some time. I’m sure he’s still trying to clean up the wonderful messes that George Bush made.

      Apr 29, 2009 at 9:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HeteroDefenseLeague
      HeteroDefenseLeague

      Obama has also not done anything to advance “equal rights” for pedophiles, necrophiles, coprophiles zoophiles, bigamists and polygamists.

      Apr 30, 2009 at 10:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mikeandrewsdantescove
      mikeandrewsdantescove

      I would like to see Don’t Ask Don’t Tell overturned tomorrow. I give an F to Robert Gates for saying this could take 5 years to even address the issue. Do the right thing Obama.

      Mike

      MALE PERFECTION

      http://www.myspace.com/mikeandrewsdantescove

      Apr 30, 2009 at 9:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alicia banks
      alicia banks

      he has done nothing for any gays or any poor people

      yet, they are still proudly wearing his obama nazi garb…

      shame!!!
      aliica banks
      OUTLOOK
      http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com

      Apr 30, 2009 at 10:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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