Since everyone gets old–even the youngsters who think it’s a fate worse than death–we thought it was high time to put together a list with some hints about topics to avoid when you are daddy hunting or just hanging with older guys.
Here are 7 things to watch out for…
1. You look great for your age.
Hey, we appreciate the compliment, and your skillful backhand. But when you qualify our age by adding “…for,” it’s kind of like saying “you know, you’re ugly, but taking that into consideration, you’re holding up well.”
Instead, try “you look great at your age,” or, should you want to go back to basics, just stop the sentence after “you look great…” I don’t say to 20-somethings, “you look great… for a kid.” Age is irrelevant but compliments are always in fashion.
2. How come you never got married?
Ugh. The subject of marriage in the gay world is now just as touchy as the subject of marriage in the straight world, but when you ask the question of an older gay man, you’ve made the assumption he grew up with the same rights as you. And you might not want to hear the answer. “I didn’t have the legal opportunity,” “he couldn’t deal with coming out and married a woman” or “I wanted to, but he died,” are just a few of the responses to expect. Instead, stick with the always allowed, “Would you like to get married someday?”
3. Do you mind if we stop for a sec while I answer this text?
Just, no. I don’t care if your generation thinks sexual foreplay involves chatting with your bestie. When you’re with a guy over 40 be with him. There’s nothing that spoils the mood for us than the ping from a must-read message. And don’t even get me started about keeping hook up apps alive and open. And if you date a Daddy who does this to you, be the more mature man and let him know he has some serious growing up to do.
4. You’re too old to be at this bar/club/event.
If you think someone looks silly being in your space, just think how silly you look being the ageist in the room. (“Ageism” is the only –ism in the world that is a bias against your future self.) Even if you think that Daddy in the corner looks more like a chaperone than a peer, let him decide at what age to call it quits—if such a number exists. We should be welcoming all into this thing we call “community,” and we can all learn from different age groups. Most important, discrimination hurts. Everyone reading this has felt hatred’s sting, and let that serve as reminder to never spread it around. Love’s a lot more fun, and it never gets old.
5. You can get the check.
It’s nice when someone else pays, isn’t it? It’s not so nice to expect them to. Just because a man is older than you doesn’t mean the relationship should be financially one-sided—“generous” or “gen” relationships fall into another category. There’s no bigger turn-off than the assumption of cash-flow responsibility, and older doesn’t necessarily mean a bigger paycheck. Treat any first date with an older man like you would with a man your own age, then figure out the finances as things go further.
6. I’m so glad I finally found a top.
Assumptions, assumptions.
7. Hi, Daddy.
Yes, I know, this article has “Daddy” in the title, and, personally, I find the phrase endearing—I’m just happy to be called. But not everyone likes it, and you should always enquire first. There’s something presumptuous about those conversations that start with variations of “Will you be my Daddy?” or “What’s up, Daddy?” or even “Hot, Daddy!” They assume we’re going to play your preferred role, and we might very well have different intentions in mind. If you keep things on an equal playing field, you might find a whole world of options opening up in front of you.
ChrisK
All great points. However, may that wants the december romances should be prepared for the so called insults.
Aires the Ram
@ChrisK, “may that wants the december romances ‘should’……….”
Ugh, your disapproval of “May to December” romances is duly noted.
May such a romance never happen for you.
o.codone
@ChrisK We’ve had this discussion a thousand times. You continue to put yourself out there with your 3rd grade punctuation, spelling and grammar, and everybody cringes. Go back and look at the “danish” article, posted on Queerty about a week ago. I left some info in the comments section that you should read. Please stop holding yourself out there for ridicule the way you do. Step-up your game dude. For real.
IanHunter
Just don’t ask anyone those questions!
surreal33
Here is thought… Why not treat everyone you meet with courtesy, dignity, and respect regardless of age, race, height, weight or economic status?
tham
David Toussaint, I think you’re a great writer, I’d love to read more of your stuff here.
david toussaint
That’s the BEST thing to say to a daddy 🙂 Thanks for reading. –DRT
GayEGO
Well, my lifetime partner of 56 years, having met in March, 1962, and I got married in June, 2004 in Massachusetts. We generally celebrate our March anniversary which we will do, Sunday, March 4, and celebrate our 56 years. Fortunately, we do not have any dishy queen friends that think that young ages are better than old ones.
Kieran
Congratulations and happy anniversary.
RESCHI
Right on, both for the grace of your relationship and freedom of “dishy” queen “friends.” Much continued success!
dfwenigma
Congratulations on making great choices and on relationship longevity. It amazes me when I find folks who have been together 10 years little alone 50. Congratulations to both of you I hope for 50 for both of you. A wonderful accomplishment in life.
radiooutmike
Man, #6 resonates for me sooo much.
Heywood Jablowme
Yeah, it’s exhausting!
CastleSF
That comment is unpleasant and can be downright rude sometimes.
tnguy222
I always thought that one sort of grew out of bottoming. In the same fashion as Greco Roman practice, boys, upon reaching the age of majority, would no longer bottom as it became dishonorable.
Not saying that bottoming is dishonorable, but the appeal of it to me has lessened as I have grown older. Perhaps that is totally a personal reality, but I wonder if it has happened similarly for others?
Heywood Jablowme
I’ve never minded comment #1. It implies something like “hey, most other guys YOUR age look awful! You must be doing something right!”
CastleSF
I think anytime people pay us a compliment, just accept it gracefully without having to second guess their intention. Not everyone is good at words.
RESCHI
Nice article. The GLBTQI folks commonly referred to as a “community” need all the stimulation on ageism that is possible. It works in both directions and neither does any good for any of us.
CanadianGuy62
OMG…has the acronym changed AGAIN?! GLBTQI? I can’t keep up!
NateOcean
During the “afterglow” period, after banging a 25-year old, he answers his phone and said “nothing”.
And you just *know* the question was “what are you doing?”
“Nothing”!? How dare you!
So I f’d him extra hard during round two.
dfwenigma
People will now pommel me. But as a “daddy” aged person I feel a bit entitled. Some younger men really are wonderful, mature, loving, kind, good people. I have to wonder about men my age who are still seeking the thrill of the gorgeous young man with the great body and whether or not they’re trying to relive what was. Daddy can mean many things. This is true. But for many it emphasizes our sexual selves. That’s kind of sad in a way. I think we’re more than what’s between our legs or our backsides as older men and that we have so many wonderful things to share. But somehow many of us pursue that perfect, “hot” younger man. I know, I know, it’s not about the body – you’re all about his personality. His smile. His intellect. The interests you share with him. And perhaps you are. But that’s pretty rare. For some young men an older guy is an incredible combination. Someone to relieve the boredom temporarily. Perhaps someone who makes more money – perhaps not (I’ve seen the opposite – son makes more than dad. And in the case of some older men – and I’m not counting the thirty and forty year olds that many see as an “older man”. Sorry you guys are “in between” you’re not really a Daddy and you’re too old to be a son. No I’m referring to those of us who are 50 and older. Have average bodies. Average jobs. Perhaps average intelligence. Maybe we have other attributes that are great. We’re the guys that don’t light up the porn channel as “daddy”. We’re not rich and we don’t set the world on fire. We’re ordinary men. I don’t know so many of the younger generation seek something in us – but we’re not to expect a lot. We’re supposed to be grateful. Sorry I’m not going to be grateful just because I’m over 50.
Clay83
It makes me wonder who raised these so called Daddy Hunters, did your folks not teach you basic manners