A recent Reddit thread asks: “Bisexuals who have dated both men and women, what are some differences you’ve noticed?” And the responses are quite interesting.
Let’s take a look and what people said…
When it comes to sex, most bisexuals agree that it’s easier getting laid with the menfolk:
“Guys just tend to be more forward,” one person writes. “Gay culture tends to be more direct, particularly around sex stuff.”
“Bi male here,” another adds. “50,000 times harder to have sex with women than to have sex with men.”
To which someone else responds, “Bi female here. Agree 100%.”
Prompting someone else to chime in: “Straight male here. Agree 100%.”
Then there’s this:
The dating process is usually much slower with women. It seems like I’m usually “on the same page” with another guy much quicker. We can usually tell if this is going somewhere very quickly and we just cut to chase. There are WAY less games with gay guys. Sex happens much quicker. … Men are much easier though. If I go out to a gay bar with the intention of getting laid it basically will always happen.
When it comes to open lines of communication, however, women are apparently better communicators:
“The girls I’ve dated have actually been significantly quicker to tell me when somethings wrong,” someone says. “The guys I’ve dated bottled it in sometimes for a month before I even knew anything was up.”
Another guy writes:
I pretty much round up to being gay now, but I’ve dated several women in my time. Beyond the genital thing, which never mattered much to me anyway, I think the biggest difference I noticed was how much thought women put into interpersonal relationships. At its best, my ex-girlfriends would be able to clearly and articulately express their feelings in a way that I, emotionally stunted man that I am, cannot. At other times I would feel bewildered as they found hidden meanings in things I said or did that I never intended. In my experience, men are more inclined to take what you say and do at face value and not think too deeply about other people’s motivations or thoughts.
Then there’s the inevitable issue of threesomes:
“Men dating bisexual women are a lot more likely to ask for a threesome,” one woman notes. “Men dating bisexual women who ask for a threesome repeatedly … don’t date bisexual women for very long.”
To which another replies: “A lot of men ask me for threesomes when they hear that I’m bi. I always agree on the condition that I’m the only woman in the threesome. Then that question never gets asked again.”
There’s also the issue of having to convince their partners of their bisexuality, which is apparently a problem with both men and women.
“Most short term relationships don’t ever consider I’m bi,” one person says. “Men think I’m gay and women think I’m straight.”
“My ex-boyfriend acted that way and wanted me to ‘admit’ that I prefer men over women,” another person responds. “It used to piss me off a lot. Apparently the concept of bisexuality is difficult to grasp for some.”
Someone else writes:
I’d had a friend who was a lesbian for a long time who has told me she doesn’t believe in bisexuality. I understand people can believe what they want to believe but it always blew my mind that she can be a lesbian but not believe that someone else’s sexual orientation exists. Almost as bad as people who don’t believe homosexuality really exists IMO.
To all our bisexual readers out there, what are the biggest differences you’ve noticed between dating men and women? Share your experience in the comments…
Josh447
Ah. Getting ready for all the ignoramus’ know-it-alls to completely trash bis and the Kinsey scale as bogus junk science that makes no sense. All part of the Bryant bloodline. Bring it on Anita’s.
Prax07
I’m over the whole bi thing. Now, if we talk on an app and I find out the guy is bi it’s just an automatic block. If it’s not disclosed until we’re actually meeting, then the meeting ends as soon as I find out. As a bi guy you’re just not friend, fwb, or bf material to me.
DarkZephyr
Bi-phobic gay men like yourself will always mystify me. I don’t get how any gay man can be a bigot about somebody else’s sexuality. And on top of that you make us gay guys look like a**holes.
Heywood Jablowme
@DarkZephyr: Prax07 is maybe a bigot in that he rules out even being FRIENDS with a bi guy.
But he’s not a “bigot about somebody else’s sexuality,” per se – he just doesn’t want to get personally tangled up in it.
Gay guys are complicated enough to figure out. After a few forays with bi guys, I personally won’t get sexually involved with a bi guy again. It’s just too complicated, that’s all. For one thing, if you get sexually involved with a bi guy you have the potential problem of having a women be p!ssed off at you. Maybe some guys find that kind of stuff easy to figure out. Not everyone does.
DarkZephyr
@Heywood, you can’t put an entire group of people in the same basket as a few losers that you have known. That is bigotry as far as I’m concerned. It’s interesting to me because I have never had any sort of rotten experiences like you describe with my bisexual boyfriends. My current boyfriend who is my fiancé, we’ve been together now for years and he has been 100% faithful to me and I have been to him. Yes there is a woman who is pissed off at me, his ex-girlfriend from years back. But that’s her problem, not mine and I never see her. Its her fault that she can’t get over somebody that she hasn’t been with in years. I certainly didn’t steal him from her. They were long over before he and I got together, as his ex directly before me was a man. With gay boyfriends I’ve had ex-boyfriend’s that were pissed off at me in most situations where a hell of a lot more volatile and potentially dangerous. I personally can’t imagine why a pissed off ex-boyfriend is preferable to a pissed off ex-girlfriend. Personally I would rather not deal with crazy exes regardless of their sex. And that can happen with anybody, straight, gay or bi.
Heywood Jablowme
“I personally can’t imagine why a pissed off ex-boyfriend is preferable to a pissed off ex-girlfriend.”
Well you don’t have much imagination, then. A quote in the article gives a key reason: “At other times I would feel bewildered as they [women] found hidden meanings in things I said or did that I never intended.”
You criticize me for making it too anecdotal, but at the same time you admit you haven’t had “any sort of rotten experiences” etc. Well, that’s very nice, lucky you – but some of us HAVE had rotten experiences. So don’t call us bigots, and mind your own business.
Jaxton
Biology plays a huge role. Men have high and constant sex drives. Women have relatively small and infrequent sex drives. Of course it is going to be much easier to bed a man than to bed a woman.
Because of this biological difference between the sexes, women are able to use sexual consent to extract rewards from men. These rewards often have nothing to do with sex but are designed to thank her for consenting.
Men are much more matched sexually to men than they are to women. It might not make babies but it’s a lot more anxiety-free.
Women generally find male bisexuality upsetting and threateming to their sense of sexual power over men.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
In B4 “homo-dominant” <_<
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Full house for: “narcissistic,” “egodystonic”, “fetish”
Donston
I’ve officially made you feel some type of way. Oh well.
I’ll be redundant in my way and you be redundant in your self-resenting, closet protecting, pretending to have any real insight about anything way.
Jack Meoff
Openly bi people who date both men and women in an open and honest way are not the problem. It’s the ones who treat it as a shameful secret that they don’t want others to know about them that are the ones not to be trusted.
Jaxton
All men have homosexual impulses (HI). Most men won’t admit this because of the homophobic attitudes of women – especially liberal women.
DCguy
Ohhhh, so this is another one of Brian’s screenames.
Donston
Even as a teenager I never really had the dating problems that a lot of bi-identifying or bi-behaving people claim. I think once you peel away the “label” and are truly honest about exactly who you are and what you truly want you don’t have a lot of trouble. Then it becomes about compatibility, charm, wit, chemistry, looks, money, not being an a-hole and all the other things that affect you in the dating world.
I had two legit girlfriends. Both were monogamous relationships and both were solid enough. I let both know early on that most of my substantial and sustainable sexual attractions were with men and that in the long term I saw myself with a man. Both understood. I always felt like I could talk to women more easily. So, it’s always been easier to build that type of emotional more quickly with them. But once I realized I could build those same bonds with certain types of men it was easier to move on. My first boyfriend was also a homo-dominant (that dreaded term) bisexual as well, so there was no confusion there. Though he was a druggie, so I had to dump him. No issues with my husband either.
dash_board1
I’m sorry, you told your girlfriends that long term you saw yourself with a man and they still entered serious monogamous relationships with you? Why? What was their reasoning? Also, if you saw yourself only with a man why did you enter these relationships?
Lastly, is homodominant just your own made up word for bisexual? Kind of like homoromantic or heteroflexible? I’ve never seen that term on any other site. Why are bisexuals so reluctant to claim the term bisexual?
Donston
I didn’t want to spill all my tea but…
My first real gf was in high school and continued for some time after high school. She had sexual attractions leaning greatly towards women. But neither of us were really certain we wanted to be with the same gender, especially at that age. And for me in particular it was difficult, because I knew only one out male that was anywhere near my age.
The second gf (who I had a kid with) seemed to have a gay man fetish. She initiated the relationship. She constantly pushed threesomes with other guys, which I was never into and constantly referred to me as a “fag” when we were having sex. I know she sounds demented, but she was actually cool people and has matured a lot since. We remain friends to this day as well as co-parents of course.
The older I got the more I realized simply referring to myself as “bisexual” was socially impractical and not a thorough reflection of myself or my “lifestyle”. I knew I didn’t want a woman. I knew my sexual attractions, sexual pleasures and romantic instincts were greatly with men and I became very comfortable with that. I also realized that a lot of gay and straight leaning men often used “bisexual” to not really express who they were but as a shield to hide the dimensions of themselves and their motivations. Beyond that, a lot of people are uncomfortable with “bisexual” because they realize that their behavior or “lifestyle” isn’t driven by sexual attraction or romantic instincts, which is what “bisexual” means (and the romantic part only got added a few years ago).
I’m not interested in claiming a term but expressing exactly who I am, what I want and what my “lifestyle” is. I’m also not interested in stomping for bi identifying or bi behaving people but rather helping people understand the nuances of sexuality and how much psychology and sociology can affect many people’s “lifestyles” and “identities”.
Donston
I’ve always been cool with the terms homo and hetero flexible if used properly, much more so than “fluid’, which doesn’t actually mean anything. But since I don’t see myself having sexual contact with a woman again or a romantic relationship (even if my marriage ends) that’s not really appropriate either. So, I settled on homo-dominant, which I first saw a few years ago and I thought was the most honest representation of myself.
Daniel M
I’m a gay man and my husband is bisexual. We have been in this loving and open relationship for 25 years. He is an activist working for an LGBT non-profit. He is also, frankly, the most directly communicative and trustworthy man I’ve ever met. Otherwise being “open” (which we’ve been from the beginning) wouldn’t work.
Ultimately, the only thing that matters is trust, integrity and love.
Billy Budd
Bisexuality indeed exists, it is beautiful and represents the future for the human race. It is just a matter of time.
Josh447
Refreshing.
o.codone
I’ve gone back and forth between men and women, and I’m a biological Dad, but I never refer to myself as bisexual. People think I’m gay and it winds up sounding like some kind of weird (I have a friend who has a friend) explanation to try to describe that flipping back and forth actually IS possible. People just don’t believe it and they blow it off, “oh, you’re gay but you’re with a woman”. I gave up explaining anything or even discussing it.
DarkZephyr
What do you mean by “flip back and forth” exactly? You are only attracted to one sex at a time?
DCguy
Meh, date who you want. The comments from the bisexuals sounded fairly on the money from comments I’ve heard f friends who are bi or straight.
At least they aren’t trying to call the bisexuals “Hetoflexible” and trying to erase them in this article.
Josh447
Sexual-flexible. Discuss.