MSNBC’s Chris Matthews played Hardball with Pat Roberton’s Rudy Giuliani endorsement last night.
Matthews and his guests debate the impact Christian broadcaster Robertson’s green light will have on Giuliani’s presidential campaign.
Matthews starts the conversation with Joe Scarborough thus:
Matthews: Joe, I have to ask you right up front, is Pat Robertson OK?
Scarborough: With who? I mean, with evangelical–I sounded like Ann Coulter there for a second. With whom, Chris?
Scarborough: Of course he‘s OK! I mean, he‘s the jackpot.
Matthews: Let me read you, Joe, some of his statements. “The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women, it‘s about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”
Of course Matthews, Scarborough and third guest Chuck Todd had a big laugh at Robertson’s insanity. And, really, who wouldn’t. The boys don’t draw any definite conclusions on what this means for Giuliani’s campaign, they do concede that it is, in fact, good news for the gay-loving Republican. It also points to deep fissures within the social conservative movement, which, if you ask us, is even better news.
These guys are all smug, cynical assholes, but I’m not so sure that I agree that it’s “good news” in terms of deep fissures on the right, given the miserable history our our recent past. The problem is that a lot of people still buy into this shit and that’s why Giuliani doesn’t care if Robertson is a nazi; it’s all about numbers. I think the only hope is that if Giuliani gets elected he will only give lip service to the Pat Robertson types who got him there (but you never know, which is scary.)
Sorry, Iâ€™ve been traveling so apparently missed another about face from Rudy Giuliani if you can call him the â€œgay-loving Republican.â€
A different Giuliani than the one who supports Donâ€™t Ask, Donâ€™t Tell?
A different Giuliani than the one who attacked New Hampshire for enacting a civil union law for same-sex couples because it “goes too far” and is “the equivalent of marriageâ€?
A different Giuliani than the one who recently said he would support raping the U.S. Constitution by amending it to ban gay marriage equality if â€œtoo many â€˜activist judgesâ€™â€ ruled positively on it.
A different Giuliani than the one who signed a domestic partners law for NYC that excluded â€œany requirement for recognizing gay and lesbian couples in collective bargaining agreements.â€
A different Giuliani than the one who opposed any requirement that companies with New York City contracts provide domestic partner benefits on par with the spousal rights they confer, as San Francisco has.
A different Giuliani than the one who, in 1989 as candidate for Mayor, criticized Mayor Kochâ€™s plan to offer bereavement leave to gay city employees, calling it (through a spokesperson) â€œan ill-conceived political giveaway.â€
A different Giuliani than the one who, in 1993, opposed Mayor Dinkinsâ€™ ban on travel by city employees to Colorado, imposed because of a boycott to the stateâ€™s antigay ballot initiative.
A different Giuliani than the one who supported Ruben Diaz, who sat on the Police Departmentâ€™s Civilian Complaint Review Board, who wrote a homophobic and AIDS-phobic column about the upcoming Gay Games being held in the city. A different Giuliani than the one quoted as saying, â€œI donâ€™t condemn himâ€ and said Diazâ€™s views reflected â€œa couple of thousand years of moral theology.â€
A different Giuliani than the one who eliminated the Office of Lesbian and Gay Concerns.
Giuliani opposed the inclusion of lesbians and gay in multicultural public schools curriculum.
A different Giuliani than the one who appointed openly homophobic Irene Impellizzeri to the Board of Education and appointed AIDS-phobic board member Ninfa Segarra as Deputy Mayor.
A different Giuliani than the one who defended the [police] use of force to control demonstrators marching in honor of slain Matthew Shepard.
Is there another â€œgay-loving Republicanâ€ youâ€™re thinking of?
Rt. Rev. Dr. RES
I have a friend who went to college with Chris Matthews at Holy Cross and graduated the same year.
Chris Matthews is the penultimate opportunist. His moral centre is the last poll. The core of his beliefs is his last employer and the contract they write.
Since the death of liberalism, in word and in deed, in the United States, it has been sad to see the liberal journalistic Boomer become first a “populist progressive” then a “centrist” then simply a “poll-driven pragmatist” who will sell his soul for ratings.
Rudolph Guiliani deserves all the true statements mentioned previously on this thread.
It sickens me to read or hear statements that a Republican particularly any of the Republicans currently running for the presidency is moderate on any matter of civil liberties especially when it concerns gay people. Despite Goldwater’s statements in later years, I have never heard of a Republican who is moderate. It goes against the evidence. Chris Matthews is little better than
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