Terrance Dean’s Hiding In Hip-Hop will soon hit the shelves, but you can start the blind item guessing game now. Hint: we’re not mentioned. [Gawker]
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Shabaka
Ugh…This really bugs me! If he’s going to “out” some folks then he needs to OUT them. Not hint at anything or use pseudonyms!
rickroberts
Who cares? They’re all just a bunch of thugs making noise as far as I’m concerned. Gay thug, straight thug, still thugs.
Thom
Trust me; they are not thugs. Real Thugs do not get paid to flaunt being a thug. They are merely actors playing a stereotypical role. Unfortunately, people seem to eat it up.
rickroberts
Well, plenty of them shoot one another and tend to stay in trouble with the law. That spells T-H-U-G in my book. Toxic waste of life. If I could find one large city that isn’t menaced by their noise, I would move there tomorrow. Atlanta sure ain’t it, lemme tell ya.
Thom
I live in Atlanta myself. I grew up in Chicago. I also lived in LA. In order to avoid any of this, you would have to move to some small town. AND even then, you may run up on some wannabe Thugs.
rickroberts
Sad, but true, Thom. What about Portland?
What I want to know is why municipal governments, especially the more environmentally aware ones, do not outlaw these frickin boom-boom cars. There is hardly a peaceful place left because of those things.
Thom
I did hear that Portland is really nice. It’s otside of the US, but I also heard that Toronto is extremely nice. As far as a noise ordinance on the cars, in Chicago, we do have one in place. Atlanta should have one as well.
MindOverMatter
You guys complaining about loud music sound like a bunch of old hags…or at the very least party poopers. Ok so you don’t like the music, neither do I, but they are in a car, which means what? When the light turns green, they are gone. I hate to break it to you, but Ozzie & Harriet has been dead for about 40 years. You really need to get over yourselves.
In addition, like it or not, hip hop music is a bona fide music genre with a very large culture and devoted fan base. When you start lumping all the people into negative and exaggerated stereotypes that you get from FauxNews, you begin to sound like a bunch of queeny bigots.
rickroberts
To MindOverMatter –
Call us what you will. I’m not talking about simple loud music at a stop light here. I’m talking bone-jarring, window-rattling, house & car-shaking bass coming from a subwoofer the size of a car trunk. That, you idiot, is not music. It is pollution. Just this last weekend, my two very young nephews were spending the weekend with me, and one of the apartments across the way from me was having that sort of party with that kind of “music,” and the lyrics and the words of the people at the party were of the most vile sort and degrading of women that nobody should be exposed to without his permission, let alone two young children. If you ask them to knock it off, they adopt the attitude that you have displayed here: that somehow it is I who is infringing upon their rights.
As I said, these hip-hoppers are a toxic waste of humanity. I have never once encountered a redeeming soul among them. To me, the problem is analogous to cigarette smoke. If it were physically possible for a smoker to keep it all in his lungs and never expose the rest of us, I don’t give a crap how much he smokes. The same goes for the noise. If it were possible for them to keep it all inside their own bodies, I wouldn’t give a crap.
The world is a violent, stressful place, and these hip-hop thugs are part of the problem. To your point about stereotyping people, if people of certain groups wouldn’t expend so much energy trying to fit the mold of the very worst stereotypes, perhaps we would not stereotype them. To paraphrase a certain angry pastor: “They fit da mold!”
Mike
I am “so sure” that Mindovermatter has grown up in the hip-hop culture. I am certain that you would be the first to lock your door if a car with loud banging music approached your car. SO please don’t sit here and preach when others are just sharing their opinion and their truth. You sound just as judgemental as you claim these other commentors sound. Personally, I love hip-hop culture, the good, the bad, and the ugly. I also grew up in a not so nice neighborhood in NYC. If I had a choice, I would live in a quiet area too. BUT, I’d still listen to my hip-hop!
MindOverMatter
Mike, you let the country bumpkin RickRoberts call hip hop people a “toxic waste of humanity” and then you come down on me. It is perfectly fine for people to share their opinions, me included, but I will not sit silent when someone attempts to categorize/stigmatize an entire group of people (primarily black people) based on the music they listen to or the clothes that they wear.
That is the same thing the “straight” world does to gays and we should not tolerate against us nor should we sit silent when “one of our own” does it to people of color.
Its unfortunate, Mike, that you do not see the larger point which is implicit in RickRoberts’ message. BTW, I do lock my car when a car with loud banging music approaches…that is, country music from a pick-up truck with a gun rack and confederate flag hanging in the window.
Peace Out!
Wondermann
This is an overrated tabloid. And it does nothing for the gay community. In fact, it’s counterproductive. A gay man will out or teasingly out gay celebs for a profit. That’s shady.
Terrence, as a gay man, you should stick to telling your own story, don’t try to seep in your bio while outing people you may or may not have been with. It’s tacky and ridiculous. To be real, you are a shame to our black SGL, gay community.
rickroberts
MindOverMatter, you’re playing that same old tired bullshit by calling me a racist because I expressed disgust over the tripe you call music. I happen to know that the majority of the shit is purchased by young stupid white boys. So get the chip off your shoulder, dude. You sound like Michelle Obama: an angry black woman. Just chill out and try to address the valid points I made in my earlier long comment.
What is a person to do when even earplugs won’t block out that pollution? You can feel it vibrate right through your body! As I said, some people are nothing more than a toxic waste of humanity sucking the very life, peace, and joy out of the rest of us. There are too many people living on the planet as it is, and if Mother Earth is ready to start thinning the herd, I know exactly where she should start.
Mr C
Well Rick lets put it like this. Regardless of what this is a form of art that is sucked up by the mainstream.
If you don’t like it just tune it out. But to think that you don’t have an issue with something concerning race. What’s up with this statement:You sound like Michelle Obama: an angry black woman.
That was not called for and you know it. But you wouldn’t mention an angry white woman. I guess there are none.
So if you want to move where you can’t here it. Try the Moon
Small town America:
West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, Montana. There are white boys with the hooptie vehicles and the sound system bumping with the same music. It’s a way of life. That you don’t like. Just like our life of being GAY. Many folks don’t like it neither. Oh well
Talk about a chip your complaints in the way you express them seems you have the same chip as well. And with this Mother Earth thing where should she start?
Hopefully with the ones full of HATE!
rickroberts
I loves me some Mr C. He keeps me coming back here. Talk about your angry black women! Girl, you do “fit da mold!”
I want Mr C to start seminars on coping: How exactly does one “tune out” bone-jarring super bass coming from a hooped-up ghetto car? That is such a lovely sound when one is sitting on the porch on Sunday morning trying to read the paper and listen to NPR.
sugarsmack
Nothing wrong with hiphop. It’s a city sound and I wouldn’t feel at home without it. Move to Mayberry if you like peace and quiet.
MindOverMatter
RickRoberts, if you ever made a valid point I would maybe consider addressing it. The only point that very clearly comes across is that you need to talk to your therapist about your twisted obession with any and everything connected to the African American culture. There is definitely something in your past that you need to deal with.
I agree with Mr C, hip hop is an art form that is used by a segment of the culture to express different things. That is what art is. Like or not, it is here.
The more unfortunate thing is that Terrence Dean thinks its appropriate to write a tell-all book and out people who have done nothing wrong to the gay community.
Len
MindOverMatter, you don’t see homophobic lyrics as doing something wrong to the gay community?
rickroberts
MindOverMatter, you poor dear. You’re not very bright, are you? If you’ll read up thread you’ll see that you are the one who introduced race here, not I. So who has the obsession? You and MrC should stop being so angry and just live a little. Nobody owes you anything.
MindOverMatter
Of course if any artist espouses homophobic lyrics and they are in fact a closeted homosexual, they should be outed. That goes for anyone who has access to media and power, not just hip hop artists. I love the smell of roasted hypocrites in the morning.
However, my understanding about the book is that some of the targets do not sing anti-gay lyrics, and in fact, are gay friendly (behind closed doors). What possible benefit to the gay community is achieved by going on a witch hunt against an entire genre of musicians simply because a few are ignorant homophobes?
Mr C
Ms Rick, I’m never angry. Girl that white psychology SHIT doesn’t work always saying we’re angry…OKAY.
Get on somewhere queen!
BLAH BLAH BLAH
rickroberts
But yah sound so angry, Blanche, yah do. Could it be the ALL CAPS and your 11-year-old-girl way with exclamation marks? Or could it be the way you talk about white this or white that, in this case white psychology? We’re giving you a black president. What else do you want? When is enough enough? Can I just write a check and get it over with already?
Mike
Rick and Mr C, will you two just get a room and be done with it…sheesh