If an American were to publish five autobiographies, we’d consider him pompous. Even Larry King’s latest (error-prone) tome seems a bit self-indulgent. But Morocco’s Abdellah Taia, 35, who the Associated Press describes as the “first high-profile, openly gay man,” doesn’t seem to be in it for himself. Rather, he’s on a one-man crusade to expose homophobia in North Africa, including in his own family, where his parents and eight siblings have abandoned him in shame. (It doesn’t help that he writes about them regularly in his books, along with graphic sexual prose.)
In the book [L’armee du Salut, or Salvation Army], he also talks about his blooming sexuality, describing teenage trysts in the back of dark movie theaters and flings with European tourists looking for more than sun on their Moroccan holidays.
Like nearly all Arab countries, Morocco considers homosexual relations a crime, punishable by fines and prison sentences of six months to three years. Such penalties are rarely applied, though, and in practice, Morocco has a long history of leniency toward homosexuality and other practices forbidden by Islam.
Asked whether he sees himself as courageous, Taia said, “The most difficult thing was to work up the courage to pick up the pen and write for the first time.”
An English translation arrived in the U.S. last month, notes Al-Bab in an interview with the author, where he talks about sexual feelings toward his own brother.
Your feelings towards your brother started with admiration but became over time more sexual, I think …
I don’t know. This started so early on that it’s confused in my mind. The admiration came with the movies because he was the one who took me to see films and he was the one who had movie magazines. This element is very important. He showed me the direction to follow: cinema.
But at some point a sexual element came into the attraction as well?
Yes. For instance, I wrote in the book that twice a week I used to help him to wash his hair. Just a little boy putting water on his big brother’s head and forgetting that that man is his brother. I wanted to do so many things with him, to touch his neck, to play with his hair, to dry him, to kiss the clean skin of his hands . . .
niles
Very good, queerty, it’s important to appear to promote incest right now.
Bri
People will use this against us.
Rob
Grow up. It’s art.
edgyguy1426
So what, we’re only suppposed to be able to read things that cast us in a positive light? Though I think the headline is a little misleading…I think we all have attachments in the early stages of development, boys to their mothers, daughters to their fathers, etc. It’s not uncommon. If this boy is being totally honest and open about his feelings and what he was going through at the time, how can we condemn it? Yeah Queerty’s headline is sensational, but that’s how they roll here.
eww
Its “Moroccan”. Not surprising Queerty would make such mistakes, considering how low you’ve sunk.
Tallskin
“He grew up with a family of 11 sharing a two-room house. His father, a petty civil servant, and a his mother, an illiterate housewife, emphasized their children’s education, sending five to college”
FUCK, eleven kids!!!
No wonder there is such massive unemployment in the muslim world !! And no wonder that so many try to get to Europe, gay or straight.
MB
U@Tallskin: Family of eleven = nine kids, dumbass.
And families with many children are common in all the poor regions of the world. In South America, they’re Christian.
And really, queerty? Really?
Tallskin
MB – you pool of anal slime.
Just because these dickwits don’t want to use fucking contraception doesn’t mean Europe has to take them.
Lex
@Tallskin: Are you trying to prove you’re a jackass?
Since when is all of Europe accepting of homosexuality? Considering it’s the first area to begin condemning it and spread that hatred worldwide you just sound like an idiot.
Do you honestly think all of those missionaries who travel to these poor countries with much needed things aren’t spreading bigotry? They won’t provide them aid until they bend to their bigotry. This practice has been going on for centuries.
Suck Europe’s dick all you want you deficient moron.
Lex
Considering this guy was also into his brother there could be a much greater reason he was kicked out beyond just being gay. Why is this even being covered exactly?
Yes homophobia exists big whoop. I also like how the “Middle East” goes back to being “North Africa” when someone wants to make a questionable/negative post about it which in this case is homophobia as if it exists nowhere else.
unreligious
Lex you are obviously under the misguided impression that all Arab countries are in the middle east. They are not and yes Morocco is in North Africa not the Middle East look at a map.
blake
@Tallskin:
Uh, nice bit of generalization there. The fact that one guy’s family has 11 kids means to you that the whole Muslim world’s families have such large families. How exactly is that logical or anything other than a biased statement?
In the U.S., Canada, and other countries, many Catholics, Evangelicals and Mormons have large families. But does that mean that all people in those groups have large families? No. Neither does it mean that the “Christian” world has large families.
BTW, your arguments about immigrants with large families were the same ones used against European immigrants to the U.S in the 18th and 19th Centuries. Many Americans weren’t happy to see the Irish, Eastern and Southern Europeans. White Europeans still come. In Australia, Anglo-Saxon Aussies were also none to please to see Greek and Italian immigrants. Discrimination against them continued until recent years.
Your generalizations are just as bigoted as those made about gays.
Mary Taylor
@unreligious: Indeed Morocco is in North Africa and not the Middle East. it’s actually on the opposite side of Africa.
I went on holiday there last December with my then girlfriend. From an outsider looking in it is tricky. I mean homosexuality is illegal and can lead to jail or a fine, but we did see what appeared to be gay men.
In morrocco we did not see any pdas, whether gay or straight looking but certainly in Marrakech, where we stayed in the ancient part of the city there was a gay area. Unfortunately this may be more to do with sex tourism which is a big problem in Morocco.
As a gay holiday maker the experience was no different than travelling in Europe. but i imagine living there is a whole different story
Lex
@unreligious: You are obviously under the misguided impression that the Middle East actually exists and isn’t merely a poor attempt to divide an area by skin tone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GreaterMiddleEast1.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East
It’s all inclusive and based on how light your skin is. The term wasn’t even coined until 1902, that should tell you something right there.
Look at a history book.
TANK
Actually, muslims in the middle east and northern africa do have much larger families and many more children than both israelis and europeans. European muslims also have larger families than non european muslims. Argue with the truth.
John
Lord help the gay community, those who oppose us as human beings have been handed the “being gay leads to incest” card. Not saying the sky is falling but people will look at us a bit differently now, and as with the NAMBLA issue where the gay community had to do major spin control to show that we weren’t all trying to have sex with children, we will all have to spend a great deal of time denying that we ALL have sexual feelings for our brothers/fathers, etc.
Or maybe no one gives a shit and it will all just go away. glass half empty, glass half full…I’m flexible.
unreligious
Lex did you even red the Wikipedia article that you are directing me to (we won’t even get into the question of their reliability) The term was coined in 1850 according to the article. The term is widely used and despite the huge expanse that the G8 part of the map covers it also points out the area that is the historical part, which is what most people call the middle east. Further more all the Moroccan’s I know consider themselves Africans not middle easterners. Further more that stretch of North Africa that the G8 for economic reasons is grouping there has a wide range of skin tones. So I don’t understand that comment about how light you skin is.
TANK
this person is try to drum up attention for his smut/autobio. He does not speak for anyone but himself.
musicj48
Why cant people just take this as it is and let it be. Queerty is trying to do a serious piece of gay news and people smack it down quickly without any thought. Stop the ad hominem!
Distance
A word to the wise…
I would really, really keep a distance from this if I were a gay website.
And not give it anymore exposure.
Lex
@unreligious: It was coined in 1902 I was only referencing the fact that it is lumped into the ever changing “Middle East”.
Everyone knows all of those areas have vastly different skin tones. Most as well as you don’t know that those areas are literally divided by skin tones. Europeans came there and provided weapons to those who were light enough to pass for white, installed them into positions of power, and literally oppress those of darker skin tones.
Read up on the racism in the “Middle East” and you’ll know why I say the things I say about it.
That’s not even including how they ravaged Egypt.
Alec
@musicj48: Queerty is trying to do a serious piece of gay news and people smack it down quickly without any thought.
If by “serious” you meant to say “sensationalist” then you have a point. As Edgyguy1426 wrote above, it is also a little misleading. Although this is the second incest angle I’ve seen on the site. Paving the way for a new porn sponsor, perhaps?
Dodash
@TANK: I live in Belgium. The jews here have more kids than muslims….
TANK
@Dodash:
I guess that proves that the gallup polling data is false, huh? Get lost, idiot.
jim
“Just a little boy putting water on his big brother’s head and forgetting that that man is his brother. I wanted to do so many things with him, to touch his neck, to play with his hair, to dry him, to kiss the clean skin of his hands . . .”
Oh yeah people, sounds like some HOT INCEST PORN to me. Jezus, grow the fuck up and remember that there IS a world of literature out there, not EVERYTHING revolves around porn vids, so stop judging everything as if it does.
And why is writing 5 autobiographies (or memoirs) considered “pompous” by whoever is editor around here these days? By that standard gay icon David Sedaris is equally “pompous,” seeing as how most of what he writes is centered around his own personal experiences…
adzomelk
i feel in love with & was sexually active with my big brother. we are only a year apart. years later i had a long term relationship with identical twin brothers. i’ve known other gay men who have done the same especially in families with many children. it all seems rather normal to me. i cant wait to read his books.
Robert
Please, all these self-imposed taboos are so lame. The idea that this guy needs to censor himself or shouldn’t share his story b/c some people dont like it is dumb. Incest happens and has happened since the beginning of time. None of use would be here 2day if it wasn’t for some form of incest. Get over it already.
hardmannyc
Anybody who thinks this is “incest” is the lowest level of dumbass. This is a writer describing himself as a sheltered, confused kid who had physical contact with another boy — his brother — and the feelings it aroused in him.
These are the same people who would have condemned “Dejeuner sur l’herbe” as “pornographic.”
Robert
@HARDMANNYC
Maybe u didn’t bother to read the interview but he goes on to say that he would go into his brothers room surround himself w/ his brothers things and jackoff while thinking of his brother. That isn’t incestuous? If ur gonna be so haughty as to refer to others as “the lowest level of dumbass” then try not to be one yourself.
The_FNG
Wow. I just read the complete interview with Abdellah Taia @
http://www.al-bab.com/arab/articles/abdellah_taia_salvation_army.htm
I can see from his perspective now, and he appears quite brilliant, hopeful, and well-adjusted.
Lexxvs
After reading the interview, I understand him, but it’s pretty fair to say that he is a little bit of a mess.
Angus
Does anyone have a recipe for stewed prunes and custard?
mike
I have no problem with this author exposing homophobia. But he needs to understand the difference between incest rights and gay rights. They are two totally different things. Incest rights is an issue of permissiveness, gay rights is an issue of fairness.
If he’s fallen in love with his brother, that’s his issue. But he shouldn’t put it under the gay rights banner.
Bri
I just realized his book is called Salvation Army. I think Salvation Army the religious organization is going to have a fit.
mecidece
@mike: he is just stupide gay guy who has psychological issues.
Bri
@hardmannyc: How is it not incest? I’m not arguing for or against it, but the guy says he is in love with his brother numerous times in the interview and that he masturbated in his brothers room pretending he was his brother.
michael
Dolly Pardon was once asked about her sexual development and she replied saying, “we had lots of cousins”. When children reach puberty it is quite common for them to experiment sexually with their siblings, male or female, or at least find something interesting or stimulating from a family member. This is usually short lived and they grow out of it. Incest is a problem when this behavior begins or continues past age 14 or when there is a wide age gap or if intercourse takes place. Sexual development is so shamed that it is no wonder that human beings are so screwed up about it. I don’t know this guy or this story but what I find wrong with it is that he may be trying to shame his family members for that which is more common than we wish to admit and has nothing to do with race, religion, or nationality. Children do things and it should not be categorized as incest because incest is different.
Gigglingfool
Why are we labeling this author at all? why can’t we just look at this as one with unique experiences and he is choosing to share them. He’s talking about his life in Morocco growing up gay, which involved sexual feelings/actions toward his brother. I don’t know his exact purpose for sharing his life with the public, but it doesnt seem to be promoting incestuous behavior.
I would think the the gay community, as a group of people who are no strangers to being mistreated and misunderstood would approach this man’s story with an open mind.
I feel like we’re so determined to get the straights to like us that whenever the word “gay” as attached to any person or event that is seemingly taboo or “undesirable” we try to detach ourselves from the problem as quickly as possible, either that or prop them up as a martyr which can be equally as dehumanizing
the means are just as important as the ends
…… I apologize for the rant
Jay Patel
Um wow people. wow. It never surprises me how closed minded even they GLBT community is…so much hatred.
Yeah the title is sadly misleading. Its not really that incestuous. We’ve all had a fantasy about a brother or cousin, or another blood relative. He just had the courage to write about it.
I find him to be quite brilliant.
Alan
@Bri it’s not incest because he’s *not banging his brother* – he’s only *thinking about banging his brother*
Thinking about killing your boss doesn’t make you a murderer.
Bri
@Alan: That sounds to me like when people say “you can’t know you’re gay if you haven’t slept with (insert gender)!”
Feelings count, in my opinion.
Jason in WV
Whether or not incest occurs, it’s all about perception. If people start believing that gay people are incestuous, that’s what we’ll all been seen as.
Trust me- perceptions about a group of people can REALLY hurt a community! I know. I’m from West Virginia – and you all I’m sure have heard the stereotypes we have to deal with here.
Cam
@Lex:
You said “Yes homophobia exists big whoop. I also like how the “Middle East” goes back to being “North Africa” when someone wants to make a questionable/negative post about it which in this case is homophobia as if it exists nowhere else.”
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Lex, North Africa is called North Africa and not the “Middle East” because…it isn’t in the Middle East. Please don’t assume that everything is malevolent. If you told a Moroccan that he was a Middle Easterner it would be equivilant to telling a Mexican that they were South American.
Gorbeh
Creepy…
JD
@Bri:
Oh yeah, thoughtcrime.
That’s progressive.
Rob Moore
Based on what most of you are writing, the responses seem more like the Church Lady’s sewing society. You hurl insults at each other and make claims of fact that are actually based on other’s opinions such as one writer’s views about the ravages of European colonialism. Muslim society has changed little in the past 500 years. The poor are still poor, the rich still rich, and politics still corrupt. The lack of evolution in their many cultures has more to do with their current situation than anything else.
It is an interesting article about an interesting man and his feelings as a youth. It isn’t sensationalist, or racist, or even particularly about homophobia. He talks more about the oppressiveness of the society in which he grew up that could easily substitute any number of other situations from marriage to the rights of women.
Alec
@Rob Moore: The Queerty spin on this is absolutely sensationalist. In my opinion, of course.
Raymond
Homosexuality is a dead end.
Alec
@Raymond: Wow. I’ve never heard that before.
So is protected sex, btw. I’m assuming you mean “evolutionary dead end,” although I somehow doubt you credit evolutionary theory very much.
allancsn
@ Gigglingfool: & Rob Moore: Thanks .
It’s no wonder the world can hate us so easily we seem to hate each other so much.
Give the guy a break he’s a commercial author trying to make a living.
Raymond
@Alec: I credit evolutionary theory. Apparently our species is terminal. Homosexuality is just one symptom among many that the species is going down.
Alec
@Raymond: That’s funny. Homosexuality hasn’t killed off any other species, that I’m aware of.
You don’t credit evolutionary theory, you credit some bizarre teleological, bastardized version of it. Catholic, perhaps?
Raymond
@Alec: My, my, my. You have it all solved, don’t you. And dare another have a different view, well, you just dismiss it with perjorative adjectives: bizarre, bastardized, which, of course in your mind is perhaps, Catholic.
I sure hope that homosexual activists lose this cultural war.
Raymond
As far as incest goes: what business is it to the state if two close relatives wish to marry? How can the state prohibit same sex incest? There would be no progeny problem. As for heterosexual incest, again what business is it of the State? let’s apply our logic on this. Let’s see if the State has no business restricting marriage because of religious moral concerns, what interests in this modern world are compromised by incestuous marriages?
The_FNG
@Raymond: I’ve come to the unalterable conclusion that you are simply a Troll.
A Troll whose sole purpose here is to stir sh*t to make it stink.
In my eyes, that makes you a real *******, as an individual who his/her jollies solely off of adversarial dialog.
A “real winner” who continually passes off outdated, outmoded, and bigoted platitudes as seriously inadequate quasi-intellectual opining,
Amateur opining that couldn’t pass muster in an elementary Debate class.
I wish there was an “ignore” button here.
Raymond
@mike: I think your distinction is contrived. Clearly his brother is a man and he is a man and if they should happen to consensually desire to wed in a jurisdiction where such is permitted to same sex couples, what possible objection could the state raise? The only reason for the strong incest taboo is because of the likelihood of impaired offspring. That is obviated in same sex unions. Moreover, the allowance of same sex marriage is also permissive in that from time immemorial it has been forbidden as something repugnant to the manifest biology of the species.
Roy Rogers Oldenkamp
Gads, I remember at 13 jackin’ off in a tent with a bunch of boys- my brother included- and the whole thing was super erotic. Kids will be kids. We outgrow things…or not.
Raymond
@The_FNG: You don’t have to read my post. But also, you might consider reasoned rebuttal rather than mere disclaiming (flaming). To put me in the box of troll perhaps, in your mind, exonerates you from any effort to face the genuine issues I have raised. How about your view of the right of the State to prohibit incest between consensual persons who happen to be two brothers or a father and son etc.?
The_FNG
@Raymond: Reasoned rebuttal???!!! Genuine issues???!!! You give yourself too much credit.
I would offer same if your posts contained anything but poorly-disguised religious-based dogma being passed off as facts.
How about a little empirical data to back up what you say? No??
Because there isn’t any.
How are you defining “time immemorial”? Leave the BC and AD time aspects out of it, and if you’ll search real hard, I bet you’ll find vetted documentation of same-sex ceremonies that pre-date christian marriage by over 5000 years.
You’re not afraid to look, are you?
Raymond
@The_FNG: What about the incest question I asked?
Raymond
@Raymond: ” if you’ll search real hard, I bet you’ll find vetted documentation of same-sex ceremonies that pre-date christian marriage by over 5000 years.”
I’m sure John Boswell would have unearthed such ‘vetted documentation.’ He certainly was painstaking in his research.
You know and I know that same-sex unions were not encoded in law, enshrined in cultures, celebrated among the tribes of peoples in ages past. Of course there were anomalies, here and there. Homosexuality has been with humanity in every age. But societies overwhelmingly did not grant that social approval of same-sex activity that they obviously accorded heterosexual union. Perhaps heterosexuality appeared to be the manifest biologically sensible course for the development of the species. You know, the parts actually are complimentary and fecund; anomalies aside. One can always find in this imperfect world many sorts of disorders.
The_FNG
@Raymond: Raymond said:
“You know and I know that same-sex unions were not encoded in law, enshrined in cultures, celebrated among the tribes of peoples in ages past.”
A postulation not entirely based in fact, but I’ll get there later. I expect that if you dig deeper, history is replete with societies, culture, and people’s lives be controlled by the “church”, hence this argument has some basis, unfortunately.
What better way to control the masses and keep yourself in really fine garments and living accommodations than to scare the sh*t of those masses with gloom & doom, fire & damnation, and eternity in fire and brimstone awaiting them in the afterlife if they don’t kow-tow and “behave” so-to-speak. I’m talking Church of England here. But again, we’re talking a little over 800 years of this specific control.
BTW, Boswell’s work has never been authoritatively and successfully disputed – most responses bordered on unabashed derision, with nothing else provided that was based on evidence. There have been no papers published disproving any of his research.
Raymond said:
“Homosexuality has been with humanity in every age.”
True, and ALWAYS will be.
Raymond said:
“But societies overwhelmingly did not grant that social approval of same-sex activity that they obviously accorded heterosexual union.”
This is a statement of opinion, not fact. Please do some research on same-sex ceremonies in history for old Europe, modern Europe, Africa, and even Native American North America.
For example: In medieval France, legal contracts were discovered that referred to the term “affrèrement,” roughly translated as “brotherment”. Similar contracts existed also elsewhere in Mediterranean Europe.
In the contract, the “brothers” pledged to live together sharing “un pain, un vin, et une bourse,” (that’s French for one bread, one wine and one purse). The “one purse” referred to the idea that all of the couple’s goods became joint property. Like marriage contracts, the “brotherments” had to be sworn before a notary and witnesses. (Notice, no church involvement)
Raymond said: “Perhaps heterosexuality appeared to be the manifest biologically sensible course for the development of the species”
No argument there. Straight relationships certainly do propagate the species, gay relationships do not. However, that’s not what we’re talking about here.
Let’s face it Raymond, there are two arguments here. One, based in religion, and the other, secular in nature, based in the reality that is humanity.
Alec
@Raymond: Teleological positions, like your own, were and are embraced by the Vatican.
In reality, evolution serves no actual purpose. There’s no omega point, no natural end to animal behavior.
So no, you don’t credit evolution. You credit teleology, which is an entirely different matter.
Larry
@Gigglingfool: You make a very interesting point, but I think this sort of situation is comparable to when the evening news reports a robbery or carjacking, and the suspect is described as “An African-American male in his 20s.” A lot of people (not all of them white) will watch that and see a pattern of involvement by young black men in petty and violent crime.
People will often react the same way when they hear of gay men involved in incest, child molestation or some other taboo or criminal sexual activity. It feeds their perception that gay men are sexually out of control and potentially predators.
I agree with you that we shouldn’t make it our goal to make straight people like us. I think gay men have consistently been ahead of the curve in having a sex-positive culture that treats sexuality as something natural and mundane rather than taboo and shameful. As I mentioned in the comments on that Brazilian movie, I don’t see anything wrong with romantic feelings or sexual activity between same-sex siblings or cousins or see it as evidence of dysfunction, so long as there isn’t any power imbalance or coercion involved.
But still, if I were to directly connect my libertine outlook with my being gay, it would probably make a lot of people say, “Yep, what did Ah tell ya ’bout them thar faggits?”
Roy Rogers Oldenkamp
@Alec: How can anyone possibly know the rend result or goal of evolution? Any suppositions are merely conjecture.
Alec
@Roy Rogers Oldenkamp: My point exactly. You can’t know what the end result is when it doesn’t exist; if there’s no goal, there’s no goal. I’m glad we agree.
Russ
@Raymond:
How interesting…. the “if we allow gay marriage then we have to allow polygamy or incestuous relationships too” argument, let’s see when was the last time we heard that argument…oh I remember, when bans on interracial marriages were over turned, funny last time I checked allowing interracial marriages didn’t lead us down that path, and neither will same-sex marriage. Can’t you bigots come up with new material to support your hate, these old ones are just boring?
Perox
I can’t really understand what the fuss is all about. The guy is writing his autobiography and writing about his feelings. If he was attracted to his brother, he was attracted to his brother. Period. He’s not writing a book to set standards for gay men. He’s writing about himself. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Why is it so difficult to accept people for who they are? And I can’t understand comments like ‘people will use this against us now.’ It almost makes it sound like gay people have an obligation to be politically correct all the time. Even if it’s just a facade. I don’t think it’s ethical to ignore things just because heterosexuals may not like it.
hephaestion
I read that the King of Morrocco is gay (though he took a wife, as was required of him). I wonder if he is doing anything to help gay citizens of Morrocco?
heavenlyspot
For everyone here who is saying that Morocco is not a Middle Eastern country, that’s incorrect (I’m not attempting to insult anyone here). But as an Arab myself I can assure you that Morocco is an Arabic country. People there grow up learning how to read and write the Arabic language in school, and they speak a slightly different dialect of it in everyday speech. The second language in Morocco is French, merely because the country was colonized by France for a such a long time. Just because there is an abundance of foreigners living in Morocco, doesn’t make it any less Middle Eastern either. All of the North-African region is considered Middle Eastern.
heavenlyspot
Encyclopedia, not my own words:
” North Africa or Northern Africa is the northernmost region of the African continent, linked by the Sahara to Sub-Saharan Africa. Geopolitically, the UN definition of Northern Africa includes the following seven countries or territories; Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, and Western Sahara[1]
North Africa generally is often included in common definitions of the Middle East, as both regions make up the Arab World. In addition, Sinai Peninsula of Egypt is part of Asia, making Egypt a transcontinental country.”
Solver
I do not know why we r givin so much interest in what is called ZWAMAl (homosexuals) even we know they’ll do anything good.
worse than that! we do not know why western countries doin shit.Are you lookin for makin the world free and it’s masses! then start by doing something as well to end your wars unlimited, we are sick of your bullshit civilized men and we do not want your shit blablas!!
queertypie
Abdellah Taia has written a wonderful, insightful look into the life of a young Moroccan man. His portrayal of his family when he was a young boy is a look at life that many people have no concept of. This young gay boy was living in such close proximity to his other family members and he tells of his feelings and emotions that are unique to his situation. He shines a light on the complicated relationships of his mother and father and sisters and brother. He looks up to his older brother and sees him as a role model. His young sexuality is expressed in his feelings of closeness and admiration towards his brother. Sexuality at a young age is a confusing time and a time of exploration and being homosexual adds another dimension that everyone processes in their own way. I found this story to be enlightening, heartening and written with a deep personal awakening and understanding of life.
david bohn
Aloha from Hawaii: With so much hate in the world against gays, why do we show so much hatred to our gay brothers and sisters. Who is the judge of whom we may love or not love? Get a life and support love in no matter what form it comes in!
paladin27
@musicj48:
While I’m not going to judge him for being in love with his brother- because there are a number of reasons as to why that could have happened. I don’t look at the story as something “serious”. Serious would be people truly giving the world a look as to what gay and lesbian Muslims must go through. They won’t do that though, because it will force them to get into things they won’t want to, and therefore will not look “politically correct”. Its sad because Islamic reformist (Muslims who wish to move the faith away from the intolerant death cult that it is), who do speak out; tend to get ignored, sadly by left-wing groups/organization, who actually do support Islamic fascist. While they obviously do not believe the same things (in terms of religion and such), both have the same goals in overthrowing the statue quo. Its quite scary really, if you do a little research on many of these Muslim hate groups, like The Muslim Brotherhood and such, you go on their websites look at the things they say, and the groups/people who support them.