Jim and Dina McGreevey were scolded like children in a Jersey court yesterday.
The former first couple came to blows this week over their 6-year old daughter Jacqueline’s forthcoming birthday party. Mrs. McG fumed over the event, saying her homo hubby didn’t deserve an extra day with the girl because he and gay lover had Jacqueline over Thanksgiving. Mr McGreevey refused to move the appropriately themed circus celebration, which led to yesterday’s court showdown.
Judge Judge Karen Cassidy called the birthday battle “about the saddest thing she’d ever seen” and criticized the McGreeveys for letting their adolescent emotions trump their daughter’s safety:
The hatred that these two have for each other overrides everything, including their child…It’s just so out of control. This poor kid… I feel like I’m the only one protecting her.
Ex-Governor McGreevey took issue with Cassidy’s choice of words, saying, “I’d like to think I don’t hate anyone. Sometimes, yes, I feel frustrated, challenged…” The gay American also says he hopes he and Dina can be “friendly” in the future.
Meanwhile, Dina McGreevey insists she wants the best for Jacqueline: “I’ve always tried to protect my daughter and keep her out of the media.” Unless she has to use her as a weapon…
Puddy Katz
hell hath no furries like a woman scorned, or something like that.
Charley
He dicked slapped her in the face. Not true of all gay men who married women. I really loved my wife and miss her. It was not about sexual orientation, it was more about companionship and common interests. I love women intellectually, but prefer men sexually.
Charley
McGreevy hurts our cause in my opinion. Why has the Gill Foundation made him the ambassador for their fundraising ? Marriage between two people is more than sexual orientation, fucking cunt, sucking cock or getting fucked in the ass. It is about the chemistry between two people, but maybe educated New Yorkers and worldly Europeans only know this.
Rt. Rev. Dr. RES
Charley – marriage outside your psychosexual orientation is difficult at best. Your description of sexual mechanics may be accurate on its face, and no one should discount mutually beneficial platonic love with or without the sexual element.
Your comment also raises the question of “preference” as opposed to “orientation”, or more accurately, blurs it for ME. It seems that you divorced your companion and loving wife in order to “have sex with men.?”
The individuals whom I have met, both women and men who, knowing their orientation, contracted a heterosexual marriage for a myriad of reasons, kept a good relationship with their former spouse. This was especially true when children were involved.
Former Governor McGreevey is someone whom I have more problems with beyond your astute observation. I would never have sponsored him for the priesthood. His dual conversion is hard to swallow when it was obvious that he did nothing as outgoing governor to promote civil marriage laws.
Charley
No, I am a widower. I didn’t divorce. Sexual Orientation can be very complex, neither either or. Many factors involved, phermones for one but their are many others unknown. Sexual preference is all tied up to sexual orientation, but love is different. Religious society wants us to believe that love and sex are not to be seperated, but the history of mankind indicates that we were meant to have multiple sexual partners in our lives. Has to do with natural selection and evollution.
Rex
WTF is wrong with these 2? Can’t they put aside thier difference for thier child? I guess they wanna FUCK UP up thier child for yrs to come? Sure she was hurt by the divorce – but hey lady…Pretend its a bridge and get OVER IT! You aint half bad looking, find another man….for christ sake….they are such asses!
Charley
I would have told her that, “I am coming out to the world as a bisexual, remaining N.J. Govenor until they kick me out, but I still love her because she produced my children. I crave dick once in awhile, Jesus is watching me lick balls, but he loves all his children. If she wants to remain first lady of the great state of New Jersey, that is up to her.
Puddy Katz
Charley, thank you for sharing your own personal theology. Why should McGreevey, or anyone else for that matter, share it with you?
Dawster
I have to call BS on part of what Charley mentioned. It is true, IN THE PAST the “history of mankind indicates that we were meant to have multiple sex partners in our livesâ€, but that is not the case today.
We are human beings, and we have grown past that. How do I know? Your same argument for sex can also be to violence. Violence is the true language of the cosmos, the sea, the earth below the crust, and the one of the pillars of the animal kingdom. Through violence man himself has learned and grew as an individual, and as a society – he has learned to hunt, eat, survive, and protect. Millions of years of evolution states that man was meant to be violent.
But as we grow as a people, the need for violence is no longer applicable. Laws begin to be put into place to protect women from their violent husbands, a man from another violent man, etc. Then we take it a step farther: we no longer need violence to discipline children or to train animals. We still have wars, we still have gang shootings, and we still have abusive spouses and road rage – yes, we still have a long way to go. But most of us understand right from wrong… and most of the human race is moving swiftly into the right direction.
The same principle can also be applied to sex. Governor McGreevy was a cheater… which is a sin of lying, not a sin of sex. He could have been honest with his wife… he should have been honest with himself.
Charley, your suggestion of what he should have said wasn’t a bad option either. But regardless of his choice, he is a FATHER, and his child should come first – before his heart, before his “needsâ€, and certainly before his dick. Once the child is born, the responsibility of raising her is number one… period.
On the other end of the spectrum… Dina is playing the victim card ever chance she gets. And I know that from my mother. You know what? She has a right to be bitter… but she DOES NOT have the right to be a bitch. Again, all her thoughts, emotions, feelings, and bitterness has to come second to the well-being of her child… period.
Millions of years of human evolution and we get these two asses so wrapped up in their own victimology that they fail to see how bad they’re fucking up their child. And the sad thing is that this goes on ALL THE TIME. I’m glad this is getting some press because it sheds light on how selfish and self absorbed many parents have gotten. They are putting their anger, their bitchiness, their sexual desires, and their personal stabs before the mental and emotional health of their child.
As with other aspects of life (like violence mentioned above) it really doesn’t matter how sexually complex your life is… we are at the point of human evolution where we can point and say “that’s wrong.â€
(that’s my Sunday morning 2 cents)
designerman
hey dina, who said anything about keeping your kid out of the public eye. this is about 2 parents who are so self involved they use their child’s party as a sparing weapon. pathetic. and doesn’t this kind of battle draw attention to all 3 of you?
can you imagine how much this girl is going to enjoy her birthday? it’s awkard enough to be the center of attention at a party, but to know that your parents had to go to court over it?
Charley
Puddy and Dawster,
Everyone is wired differently. True, what I would have done is not the same for everyone. Just venting on the issue, not recommending.
Hope they are happy in their decisions, but it doesn’t seem that way. Seems sad for the kids.
Charley
Dawster
If you believe in evolution, we evolved out of the sea as a one celled organism, and then biting and clawing our way into civilization and being civil to one another. I agree with you. But, now we have nuclear, and the capability of destroying everything. It really gets dangerous when two powers think that their god is the right god. One good thing about the Russian cold war, is tha Marxists were atheists, and they would not send nuclear destruction in the name of Mohammed or Jesus. Times have changed. That seems to be what will happen now with political wingnuts here, and Muslim extremists there.