The queer neo-cons of GOProud just made a bunch of endorsements and—shock!—they’re all Republicans, and most are stridently anti-gay.
Like, Rep. Connie Mack, whom GOProud endorses in the Florida senate race against Democrat Sen. Bill Nelson. Among other things, Mack (right) voted for a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman, and against ENDA and the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.
And Arizona Senate hopeful Jeff Flake (yep, that’s his real name), who voted against marriage equality and domestic-partner benefits while in the House of Representatives, where he also sponosred a resolution condemning the Obama Administration’s refusal to defend DOMA in court.
According to Think Progress, Flake voted against adding sexual orientation to hate-crimes statutes three times and only voted for ENDA when transgender protections were removed. In addition to telling CNN he took a trip to a deserted island because he “felt like a pansy” and wanted to toughen up, Flake bragged about getting a “100% rating” from the Family Research Council.
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Then there’s Dean Heller, who is looking to keep the Nevada Senate seat he was appointed to when John Ensign resigned. The HRC rates Heller a zero, and it’s hard to disagree: He opposes same-sex marriage in his state and nationwide, voted against providing domestic-partner benefits to gay couples in DC, and stood against hate-crime protections for LGBT Americans. Oh, and in case you forgot, he also voted against the Employee Non-Discrimination Act and the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.
Eesh, not someone who we’d say is in our corner. But GOProud’s Jimmy LaSalvia said he shares the group’s “core values.”
And then there’s Scott Brown, the candidate from Massachusetts who is not Elizabeth Warren, isn’t the worst Republican when it comes to LGBT issues, but that’s a pretty low bar. Brown is against repealing the Defense of Marriage Act but says marriage equality in his state is a settled issue and is against a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. ( He was also one of the few Republicans who endorsed ending DADT.)
Okay, so Brown’s not an Enemy of the Gay State, but Brown is hardly an advocate for the gay community. Maybe the GOProuders saw Brown’s nude spread in Cosmo and just couldn’t help themselves.
The queer-conservative cabal also just endorsed Tom Smith (R-PA), Elizabeth Emken (R-CA), Barry Hinckley (R-RI) and Orrin Hatch (R-UT).
Honestly, we just don’t get the GOProud. No, it’s not that we don’t get gay Republicans—some people just don’t put a high priority on being treated as equals. But if that’s the case, if your agenda is about dismantling Obamacare and preserving tax cuts, why form a gay group in the first place? Why brand your identity around something you say is not a serious factor in your political decisions? Why not just join some existing GOP cheerleading squad.
Eh, maybe it’s some freaky BDSM thing.
Dumdum
It is worse than BDSM it is a form of Gay water boarding. I have lived in the Gay community for 36 years more than half of my life and I have never seen my own kind so hell bent on destroying EVERYTHING that we have worked and cried and bled and died for since the 1970s. May the Goddess forgive me, but these B***hes need to get back in their closets and stay there. Join a Monastery move to Russia or any of several other countries that deny basic human rights. Frieda Lay a Queen who died many years ago from AIDS and a very dear friend. Always said.”If you don’t have something good to bring to the party, then stay the F**K home B**CH”!…..
Kathukid
GOProud is probably secretly funded by NOM. How else to explain its existence?
Little-Kiwi
GOProud Explained:
http://youtu.be/hrv31BCGeqY
Little-Kiwi
GOProud in Action: words from a GOProud Member
http://youtu.be/2R6jqMysHaA
see? wimps.
niles
It’s actually a Karl Rove funded front organization, like many of the “minority” outreach groups you see occasionally in the news mouthing off some ridiculous jargon in support of republicans – of course totally contrary to the real interests of the group that they supposedly represent. They are total and complete whores and not even the good sexy kind.
Dumdum
@Little-Kiwi: Thank you Girlfriend. That man is yummy and smart. A very sexy combination. And so informative. Thank you, thank you, thank you !!!!
EricinChicago
GOProud is an anti-gay hate group and should be treated as such at ALL TIMES.
sfbeast
@Little-Kiwi: love the video. goproud and log cabin are the epitome of self-haters. by the way, i was trying to remember where i first saw your screen name. finally found it from ethan mordden. wow, read those books a long time ago.
Little-Kiwi
@sfbeast: thanks buddy! YES to Mordden! His writing changed my life.
Everyone – seek out the works of Ethan Mordden. You’ll love them.
Aidan8
1) Thank you, Kiwi. If I didn’t already have a totally fab husband, I’d find you and make you mine. 😉
2) GOProud’s words and actions speak volumes. None of it good.
3) I find it interesting that all of the usual conservative/GOP/LogCabin types (BJ McFrisky, et al.) are so quiet on posts like this.
the other Greg
I’m a gay liberal who had conservative parents – like a lot of us, maybe most of us? – and I like most of what Little Kiwi has to say, but I just don’t get his parent obsession. WTF, is Kiwi blowing his father or what? Ewwww. Maybe instead of telling Queerty about it he could tell Squirt.org: they love incest stories over there.
But yeah, something even more weird and creepy than Kiwi’s parent fetish is… GOProud! This raises the question, however, of why GOProud is even weirder and creepier than Log Cabin. So what’s the explanation, are GOProud guys even MORE obsessed with their parents than LCR guys are?
I suppose there may be something to the theory and that most gay righties are trying to suck up to their parents. It makes some sense, but is that really the salient point? It seems to me the money obsession trumps the parent obsession (if any). I have an alternate theory that gay conservatives are not even really “gay” in the clinical or psychological sense, if they just masturbate to piles of dollar bills, and read Ayn Rand and Freidrich Hayek and listen to Rush or some such dreck, and think girls have cooties. Technically none of that stuff makes them “gay,” it just makes them weird and creepy guys who jerk off on money.
So they’re not really homosexuals. They are MONEYSEXUALS!
(And if you ever get a twenty that’s a little, um, sticky… ewwww, maybe that’s why! Maybe there’s a moneysexual in your neighborhood who has the mistaken impression he’s “gay.”)
One reason I like my theory is that if it’s true, there is no danger of us real gay guys (gay liberals) ever unintentionally having sex with those guys. (With or without a condom.) They have sex with money, not with other guys.
For instance Matt Hissey (! – ha), the “stereotypical gay guy” in comment #4, oh I suppose some of you out there would volunteer to hate-fuck that horrible little twink. But however hard you fucked him, that still wouldn’t change his innate sexual orientation, according to my theory. He jerks off to money.
Anyway I don’t get why anybody over the age of about 19 or 20 spends much time worrying what their parents think about anything. Be a grown-up.
Kergan Edwards-Stout
Interestingly, an article I wrote on one of these politicians is now up at Bilerico Project and should be up at Huffington Post soon. It’s about Elizabeth Emken, a friend from high school, who had many gay friends but is now running for CA Senate (against Dianne Feinstein) on an anti-marriage equality stance.
http://www.bilerico.com/2012/10/elizabeth_emken_the_making_of_an_anti-equality_pol.php
the other Greg
I’m a gay liberal who had conservative parents – like a lot of us, maybe most of us? – and I like most of what Little Kiwi has to say, but I just don’t get his parent obsession. WTF, is Kiwi blow ing his father or what? Ewwww. Maybe instead of telling Queerty about it he could tell Squirt.org: they love in cest stories over there.
But yeah, something even more weird and creepy than Kiwi’s parent fetish is… GOProud! This raises the question, however, of why GOProud is even weirder and creepier than Log Cabin. So what’s the explanation, are GOProud guys even MORE obsessed with their parents than LCR guys are? I suppose there may be something to the theory and that most gay righties are trying to suck up to their parents. It makes some sense, but is that really the salient point? It seems to me the money obsession trumps the parent obsession (if any). I have an alternate theory that gay conservatives are not even really “gay” in the clinical or psychological sense, if they just masturbate to piles of dollar bills, and read Ayn Rand and Freidrich Hayek and listen to Rush or some such dreck, and think girls have cooties. Technically none of that stuff makes them “gay,” it just makes them weird and creepy guys who masturbate on money.
So they’re not really homosexuals. They are MONEYSEXUALS!
(And if you ever get a twenty that’s a little, um, sticky… ewwww, maybe that’s why! Maybe there’s a moneysexual in your neighborhood who has the mistaken impression he’s “gay.”)
One reason I like my theory is that if it’s true, there is no danger of us real gay guys (gay liberals) ever unintentionally having sex with those guys. (With or without a condom.) They have sex with money, not with other guys.
For instance Matt Hissey (! – ha), the “stereotypical gay guy” in comment #4, oh I suppose some of you out there would volunteer to hate-fuck that horrible little twink. But however hard you fucked him, that still wouldn’t change his innate sexual orientation, according to my theory. He jerks off to money.
Anyway I don’t get why anybody over the age of about 19 or 20 spends much time worrying what their parents think about anything. Be a grown-up.
the other Greg
@Aidan8: Don’t be silly, it’s Sunday – McFrisky has choir practice. 🙂
Cam
Once again, GOProud is NOT a gay group.
They are a group with the majority of the board being hetrosexual, they put a gay member front and center so they can pretend it is a gay group and so they can use it to try to pretend that Gays like the GOP and to help give the bigots in the party cover.
Little-Kiwi
it’s not that difficult to understand Greg, unless you’re not that bright and (like others before you) are harboring a person obsession with me.
lemme lay it out – most gay people are born to anti-gay parents. those with integrity and spines rise about it. those whose balls never drop become gay republicans. why? they never learned to stand up to family.
but feel free to do what i do – and put a face and name to your comments, to best make your point. if you have one? it seems to be the point i make, actually…
😉
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: I agree with you that it’s important for any gay person to come out to their parents. (And as I’ve warned people here before – be prepared for rejection. You might be pleasantly surprised, just be prepared for it.)
But your argument contradicts itself. According to you, these GOProud guys HAVE come out to their parents. Or are you saying they didn’t do it in person, they came out online (which after all seems to impress you more than the real thing) so their parents presumably have found out? So do their parents still hate them despite their GOP-ness, or don’t they? Either they do or they don’t. Or doesn’t it matter? The parent stuff hardly seems the relevant point.
As I’ve told you before, my bf and I do our activism in real life in the place where we live. (Tougher to do than where you live.) There’s no obligation to appear visually online just because some anonymous hipster exhibitionist in Brooklyn (how brave!) or wherever demands that someone do so.
Really I agree with 98% of everything you say (including Ethan Mordden who I like); I just find your parent obsession creepy and disturbing. Almost every single post of yours mentions parents! I just don’t understand why a person who says he’s over 30 is so obsessed with the subject. It seems psychologically unhealthy. … Hmmm, I don’t think I have a “person obsession” with you, I think I’m just a little worried about you!
Again, I’m less “anonymous” here than you are. When do you “put a name” to your comments? Did your parents actually name you Kiwi? 🙂
Little-Kiwi
GOProud – white moneyed resentful homosexuals who rather than building bridges between Gays and Conservatives actually work to keep them apart – hence their distancing of themselves from “those other gays” – like in the two videos i posted.
I’m not the one with the parent-obsession: those with the parent obsession are those who have not yet grown spines or balls and continue, even as adults, to beg for pithy tolerance by Leaning Hard Right, castrating themselves by being anti-gay gay republicans.
this is not me contradicting myself. this rather clear. they’re Out – but not empowered. they’re the “i’m gay but i’m not like THOSE gays” gays. Apologists.
Click my name, dude – you’ll see me and what i am.
You show me a gay republican and i’ll show you a wimpy boy who is still sucking up to his GOP-voting Family. A great many gay men born into GOP-voting families act like adults and get away from that nonsense. That’s what I point out – at some point these boys need to become men and stop living in fear of what Conservative Parents Think.
But hey, feel free to share (as i’ve shared – click my name) the incredible work you and your partner are doing. Because for all we know you could be some failed ex-porn actor with a meth-addiction living in his parent’s house in some small town making up a fake life because you can’t get sober 😀
I do my activism and advocacy in the real world, too. And I can prove it 🙂
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=770650&playlistId=1.973298&binId=1.815892
see? 😀
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: Not everyone is an exhibitionist like you are. You wouldn’t really like it if every gay person did what you suggest (making endless videos etc.); that would deflect attention from yourself.
I’m already on record here as not watching porn (& a lot of guys don’t believe me!) but if I were an ex-porn actor I probably wouldn’t be squeamish about making videos. 🙂
Actually no one is *required* to do any activism at all. This was true before the internet existed and before you were born. I agree with you that they should not be literally counter-productive (a la GOProud) but there are minimum requirements – come out to parents, come out @ work if possible unless it’s physically dangerous, be responsible re: HIV etc. – and that’s about it. If someone is inspired to do more than that, and/or if someone likes the limelight, great, but it’s not a requirement.
Yeah, I do live in a small town, I told you that before (a run-down New England mill town). Not every gay person lives in Toronto or NYC. You really think you’re sooooo brave doing what you’re doing – from NYC? Really? If you were poor enough that you had to live in the Bronx or the far reaches of Jersey City or Queens, you might find it tougher to do what you do too. You might get f@g-bashed too. Don’t be delusional.
“A great many gay men born into GOP-voting families act like adults and get away from that nonsense.” I’m relieved to finally hear that from you since you’ve often seemed to be implying something quite different. Totally agree!
Little-Kiwi
Nope, I’ve never mad any claims to be brave or a hero, actually.
i’ve never once implied anything differently – i’ve never said all gay men born to piece of s**t republican families become piece of sh*t republicans. not once.
it seems, sugarpie, your desire to argue with me is stronger than your reading comprehension skills.
its ok, i elicit that kind of response a lot.
http://www.toptobottomnyc.com/2012/07/the-voice-of-reason-interview-with.html
enjoy.
DarkZephyr
I just don’t get GOProud. Why do they even mention the fact that they are gay in anything? What is the point?
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: Jesus Fucking Christ, you ARE full of yourself, aren’t you?
I like how you agree with points I made several months ago, that you disagreed strenuously with several months ago, and now you think you believed them all along. That’s flattering I guess, and proves you do have good sense, albeit the delayed-reaction kind.
So I’ll plant this. Why do think everyone who’s less outgoing than you are is a “wimp”? That’s pretty reductionist. (Actually it’s way worse than that but I’ll say reductionist.) I’m sure that, for instance, you pay lip service to the gay victims of childhood bullying – yep, you do in passing in your video in comment #3 – but I get the impression that when you meet an actual former victim of childhood bullying in real life, ten or fifteen years after he’s survived middle school, you just call him a wimp. This has probably actually happened.
Not everyone needs to be doing what you’re doing. Jeez, even you won’t be doing all of it a few years from now.
Little-Kiwi
if you want me to be less “full of myself” try being less obsessed with me 🙂
it’s not that anyone less outgoing than me is a wimp – it’s that those who boast, anonymously online, of all that they do while refusing to back it up, are. 😀
there are certain things that only “lying anonymous sacks of s**t say”, online.
i get it, though. you want to argue with me but don’t have the brains. it’s ok. it happens. 😉
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: Heh, looks like I hit the target there. You’ve been a bully in real life. (But you never thought of it that way before, and you’ll improve. That’s great.)
Have you invented a different definition of “anonymous” than the one that appears in regular dictionaries? For example, the usually pejorative term “anonymous sex”: we don’t know the guy’s name but we DO see the guy’s face, and yet… it’s still called “anonymous” sex. (Remind you of anything?)
It’s funny that you’re so obsessed with the “anonymity” stuff when YOU’RE ANONYMOUS.
Little-Kiwi
i have been? really? when?
i’m not anonymous. you’re the one treating the internet like a burqa. i get it, though – you have an obsession with me. it’s ok, i’m used to it.
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: SO WHAT’S YOUR NAME?? Just your first name! Otherwise I’m less anonymous on Queerty than you are. And I only ask because you’re so obsessed with this “anonymity” b.s.
I’ve asked before – are we supposed to rummage around the fine print on your site? I’m not “obsessed” enough to look again! 🙂
I’ve seen sites where people disdain anonymity but they want to get rid of screen names completely. They want Facebook logins, full names, etc. You keep saying the same things over & over & over but it makes no sense. I’ve never seen anyone with a screen name complain about a supposed “anonymity” problem. It’s a contradiction in terms.
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: oh I forgot… (& probably nobody else is reading at this point)… and I’m not obsessed, really here you’ve piqued my interest… boomers like me & my bf often don’t get what the fuck young-ish people are talking about with the technology obsession, and why you don’t exist unless there’s detritus of you online, and so on. So since you’re baffled by lack of online evidence… theoretically, what would satisfy you? We’re mentioned in a few news articles here & there but that’s about it. We can barely do eBay, so we’re unlikely to figure out much with YouTube videos. And maybe 98% of the posters who praise you unreservedly don’t have any links to anything either. So I don’t understand what you mean.
Little-Kiwi
as i dont’ live in Bumf**k Noweheresville, i do what i can to reach folks who live in Bumf**k Nowheresville – youtube, blogs, et al.
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=770650&playlistId=1.973298&binId=1.815892
not only my name, but my face and my sociopolitical opinion, shared for all of Canada to see on CTVs CANADA AM.
😀
*elegant curtsy*
now you can continue to write essays giving excuses for not being visible.
enjoy your made-up life 😀
AxelDC
Does GOProud even have any members? They do not even allow you to register on their website. Most of their board members are heterosexual Republicans.
For a group so divorced from the gay community, they get way too much attention. At least Log Cabin wants gay members and doesn’t let itself be run by Corporate Republicans.
the other Greg
@Little-Kiwi: It was a simple question. Maybe not everyone is “obsessed” enough with you to read every self-worshipping link you post.
Queerty doesn’t mind anonymity and has said so, because they’re aware that not every gay person lives in a safe delusional bubble in NYC.
If someone on Queerty unilaterally demands that OTHER people “put a name and face to their comments,” but will only do ONE of those two things himself, he’s a hypocrite.
Little-Kiwi
@the other Greg: hey, crazy, i do both 😀
i’m saying you have to. i just think it’s incredibly telling when a supposedly-empowered grown adult can’t do it 😀
http://www.queerty.com/plan-for-lgbt-school-in-toronto-meets-with-opposition-from-gay-community-20120928/
did u see this story on Queerty? my face and my name and my voice and oh, look, me on tv 😀
i’m very aware that not everyone lives in a safe bubble. that’s why i insist on being visible, myself – be a voice for those who can’t.
you seem to be saying you live in a place where you live in constant terror and threat if people find out you’re gay. or something. i’ve lost track of the excuses you give.