Even though the National Organization for Marriage would like everyone to believe that “marriage defenders” get attacked by gays all the time, they have yet to produce even one religious person beat up by gays for their Christian identity. Meanwhile, we’ve got two gay men beat up by so-called Christians for their gay identity… and that’s just this week!
Jerry Pittman Jr. and his boyfriend Dustin Lee tried to attend a service at the Grace Fellowship Church in Fruitland, Tennessee but the church’s pastor (aka Pittman’s father), two deacons, and Pittman’s uncle started yelling anti-gay slurs and punching the men to keep them from entering the church. When the cops came, they allegedly did nothing to curb the deacons’ anti-gay slurs nor did they allow Pittman and Lee to file a report.
Nevertheless, the boyfriends did eventually file charges and will appear alongside their four attackers in court tomorrow.
So where are your Christians physically bullied by gay people, NOM? If you find us one, we’d love to interview them. We’d hold our breath, but we all know NOM doesn’t like responding to our requests to talk.
Riker
The simple answer is that we bully them by not allowing them to force their morality on others. Anything short of full Dominionism/theocracy is, in short, persecutionof Christians
Ogre Magi
This is why gays and lesbians need to avoid christians at all costs.
Little Kiwi
You mean how those awful Jews and Blacks bullied the KKK simply due to their “difference of beliefs”, NOM?
Yeah. Exactly.
the crustybastard
But what about the way gays hurt their feelings…?
Cam
This is NOM’s reasoning.
If you enforced the laws against lynching, you were interfering with the Klan’s free speech and freedom of religion.
Now, if you enforce laws that do not allow them to harm gays, or prevents them from violating gays civil rights, you are, once again interfering with their freedom of religion and speech.
They want to try to make people forget that everybody’s rights stop at the next person’s front door.
Little Kiwi
it’s like smoking. you can smoke, but your smoke can’t enter my lungs.
you can be anti-gay but your anti-gay beliefs cannot in any way negatively impact my life.
alas, they don’t see this. you gotta love NOM, though. the fact that their entire legal case against Marriage Equality comes down to “But they’s GAYYY!” proves us all right.
Michael
Hypocrites these idiots claim to be loving and that they do not HATE anyone.Well as usual the proof is in the pudding.
Ive never EVER heard of anyone who was religious getting the shit beat out of them for being religious.Ive never EVER heard of anyone who was religious being beaten to death and hung in a field left to die. ( as Matthew Shepard was)
These people are utter hypocrites in too many ways to even count.
Oh and if these people want to protect the sanctity of marriage … dont CHEAT on each other dont ABUSE each other and most of all if you want to protect marriage? Then BAN DIVORCE! Idiots.Hypocritical idiots at that.They continue to have the blood of innocent people on their hands also.Nom is just FOTF they continue to supply the bullets to these lost and troubled teens with their hurtful vile and incredibly foolish comments about homosexuality and gays in general.
doug105
Their spoke’s pig waddled in to the prop 8 play with her trouth and back out with all bacon still attached, so they don’t even believe their own crap.
Darrell
@Michael: Actually, religious people get persecuted for their religion all the time, but that’s by religious people of other religions who think their religion is superior despite the golden rule of every religion being that we should be kind to others. Yet, in the context of gays beating up a religious person, you’re right: I’ve never heard of such an occurrence.
Michael
@Darrell:
Well you are indeed correct in that regard you are right.
Its sad that they broke that golden rule everyday of their lives as well.
maria miklas
I don’t like the idea of less than 5% of the population forcing their morality on the
other 95% of the population.
Earlier, someone compared human rights issues of Africans and Jews to homosexuals.
Homosexuality is a MORAL issue, slavery, discrimination, the holocaust were and are
Human Rights issues.
Homosexuals are free to live their lifestyle, however I should be free to teach my values to my children.
I am disgusted that our children are exposed to so much inappropriate information too soon.
I am appalled that my daughters will learn in grade 9, how to put a condom on.
I am upset that the government forces their morals on my family.
I am talking about an unprecedented attack on my morals.
What happen to my rights as a parent????
Ryan
No one seems to be talking about the fact Pittman was beaten up by his own father. I find it appalling that the father failed to do the one thing a parent is supposed to do and love his child unconditionally.
Shannon1981
Yet another piece of damning evidence to the fact that religiosity is a mental illness. It is causing a father, who is supposedly a leader in a group of people who worship a man who preached nothing but love and peace siccing a lynch mob on his own son. Religion needs to go. Bill Maher is right. It will be the undoing of the human race. It already is.
maria miklas
I don’t like the idea that less than 2% of the population forcing their morality on the
other 98% of the population.
Earlier, someone compared human rights issues of Africans and Jews to homosexuals.
Homosexuality is a MORAL issue, slavery, discrimination, the holocaust were and are
Human Rights issues.
Homosexuals are free to live their lifestyle, however I should be free to teach my values to my children.
I am disgusted that our children are exposed to so much inappropriate information too soon.
I am appalled that my daughters will learn in grade 9, how to put a condom on.
I am upset that the government forces their morals on my family.
I am talking about an unprecedented attack on my morals.
What happen to my rights as a parent????
Shannon1981
@maria miklas: You right as a parent is to send your children to a conservative christian school if you do not wish them to live in the reality that not everyone is a conservative christian.
To quote the constitution:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”
The public school system is an arm of the government, meaning that it shall make no laws respecting your conservative christian views. You don’t like it? Home school your child or send her to a Christian Academy, where your views will be taught. Then, when she reaches adulthood, let her have the rude awakening that the whole world does not operate the way your household does and get the shock of her life. Face it. Gay people exist. We are law abiding, tax paying citizens just like you are, whether you like it or not, and we will continue to fight for the same rights you have until we get them. If you don’t like it, join a Christian cult. Oh, I forgot, you already are in one. Now you just need to find a compound to keep yourself and your family sheltered from the rest of the world, and your kids won’t see or know about anything except what you tell them.
Little Kiwi
@maria miklas:
you absolutely have the right to drive your child to suicide.
why you want to do that, however, is puzzling.
you don’t want your daughter to learn how to put a condom on? you’d rather she get pregnant or contract a disease? again, very puzzling.
what morals are being specifically forced onto your family by the government? last time i checked the government wasn’t forcing your daughter to be a lesbian.
an unprecedented attack on your morals? like i said, you’re wholly allowed to drive your own daughter to suicide, or if she is indeed straight, to drive her away from wanting to associate with you in any way even though you’re her mother.
why you’re adamant about your right to lose your daughter is beyond me, but you will lose her. you will.
DJ
I’m 23, it took my childhood and the last 3yr to FINALLY get the point that… religion can tear a family apart, aka one one of the reason I have a hate towards my father I can’t even explain. He used that bible to scare me and shit, and now Im making him pay for it…
Shannon1981
@DJ: Ditto. My parents are fundy xtians, sheep like all the rest. Saddens me that when I leave here in April, I shall more than likely see them again, because they choose to be bigots rather than embrace me for who I am.
Little Kiwi
unlike maria, i was raised to think hatred and bigotry were immoral.
ten bucks says she thinks Anne Frank is in Hell with gandhi.
MikeE
@maria miklas: Well, “maria”, I guess you should go back to school then, because you’re a fucking idiot if you think that homosexuality is a “moral issue”. You seriously need to learn what “morality” consists of.
@Little Kiwi: I’m actually pretty certain that “maria” doesn’t “think”. their kind rarely do.
Chad
@Ryan: That’s religion for you.
perdeep
People who are in a position of power feel hurt and angry because the people they have oppressed for so long are now starting to refuse to be oppressed any longer. They got so used to the privilege of pushing around visible minorities, LGBTs, beaten women, and the poor, they started believing it was their civil right to do so. Now they’re being told they can’t do that anymore, and they feel like their rights are being infringed upon.
Cam
@maria miklas: said…
I don’t like the idea of less than 5% of the population forcing their morality on the
other 95% of the population.
and
I am upset that the government forces their morals on my family.
I am talking about an unprecedented attack on my morals.
What happen to my rights as a parent????
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1. Asians make up less than 5% of the population. So according to you, they should be discriminated against as well?
2. The govt. forced it’s morals on your family….the govt. forcing morlas on people? Oh MY how awful! Lets look at a few morals the govt. forces on your family and the rest of the country….. Hmmm, you can’t murder, you can’t rape, you can’t steal, you can’t attack, and no matter how big a bigot or races you are, you can’t attack or harass others.
My, how awful you aren’t allowed to do any of those.
3. What happened to your rights as a parent? You have the right to teach your children anything you want. However, the rest of us have the right to call you a bigot, and for your children to be penalized if they cannot live in a civil society because of the hate and bigotry you’ve taught them.
You have the right to say and believe what you want, but everybody else has the right to point out that you are a hateful bigot. Free speech doesn’t protect you from OTHER people’s right to free speech.
Mav
@maria miklas: Homeschool or quit bitching. Your “morals” do not dictate educational cirriculum, which is designed to stay contemporary with the times.
That’s why we don’t teach kids out of a book that is thousands of years old, one that approves of both slavery and stoning. If you want to teach your kids “moral values” that are in direct conflict with what is required of them as citizens of a progressive free country in the 21st century, you can do it on your own dime and in your own time.
But your right as a parent/breeder does not supercede my right to walk down the street without getting curb-checked by some good upstanding citizen like yourself who takes “moral” issue with my “inappropriate” existence.
Nor does your right as a parent supercede my CHILD’S right to be educated in a scientifically-founded, quantitatively-measured public school system free from theocratic law that neither allows hatred in its halls nor encourages ignorance in its classrooms.
Michael
@maria miklas:
I don’t like the idea that Christians want to shove their religion down peoples throat.
I don’t like the fact that some people who claim to be Christian preach hate and wish harm on other human beings for being gay.
I don’t like the idea that the bible says hate the sin love the sinner because Christians are supposed to LOVE period.So the hate part actually contradicts what Christianity is supposed to stand for to begin with.
I do not like it when parents like you force your kids to be stuck in the same plastic bubble you were stuck in when you were a child afraid of everything and not willing to learn anything new or expand your horizons.Or your childs for that matter.
Homosexuality is not A MORAL ISSUE only in the eyes of people like YOU.
Speaking of Morals Most Christians are known to divorce beat their kids ( spare the rod spoil the child) do drugs cuss commit adultery covet what their neighbors have covet their neighbors wife etc…… So who exactly are you to speak of MORALS to begin with? Yet more hypocrisy exposed within that specific religion.
Homosexuality is indeed a human rights issue we are fighting for our rights as HUMAN BEINGS in this world to be treated equally and respectfully under the law and Constitution of the United States. It definitely is similar to african americans as well especially not being allowed in certain places just because we are gay.
The only difference is our skin color and there ARE many people who happen to be both african american and gay in this community as well.
Homosexual is not a lifestyle it is not something that any of us chooses.We do not wake up one day and say gee I want to be gay! Thats preposterous thinking right there.It’s not a lifestyle nor a choice its just a part of our dna the fiber of our very being.
I am disgusted that you are afraid your children will learn things at an advanced age that should be a GOOD thing.Trust me children are much smarter then most people in this world give them credit for.Especially learning TOLERANCE at a young age is a very good start for a child in this world.It molds them into what they will become later on in life either a decent human being or an ignorant one who is against anything they deem sin or wrong in their eyes.
I would love to know where you get this information from.I have seen nothing about schools teaching about condoms to 9 years old.I would seriously love to know where you got this info from.
I am upset CHRISTIANS force THEIR morals onto OUR families and anyone who is gay. That makes us even.
I am upset most Christians would rather infringe on other peoples human rights then to understand and grasp the simple concept of LOVE thy neighbor.
I am disgusted that you claim your morals are being attacked when innocent gay americans are PHYSICALLY attacked everyday in this country due to people just like YOU.
What happen to OUR rights as human beings? In the majority of society and this country we are treated as if we are less then by most Americans simply for being gay for being something that they are afraid of and never willing to understand.
You have your rights lady.You can get married anytime you want to.You ARE married period.You’re not looked down on or mocked or bullied or harassed or physically threatened which I have experienced ALL of those and then some.The next time you open your mouth put the shoe on the other foot and walk in a gay americans shoe for one day then you will see how LUCKY YOU are.
Scott Rose
@maria miklas: You have a militantly ignorant, anti-scientific view of homosexuality in which you view refusing to have a scientific view of homosexuality a “moral” imperative. I want to see you put under oath in a court of law where you must use direct evidence . .. not your bullshit hearsay claims . . . that gay human beings’ human rights are not human rights. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Fuck you with a rusted cheese grater for wanting to turn your own children into the same militantly ignorant turd of shit-for-brains that you are. Fuck you.
Scott Rose
@Michael: Tell the NOM troll to take their gay-bashing Bible, stick it down their throat and choke on it!
Michael
@Scott Rose:
Agreed completely.
B
No. 11 · maria miklas wrote, “I don’t like the idea of less than 5% of the population forcing their morality on the other 95% of the population.”
Good. Since over 95% of the public presumably believes that assault should be a crime, let’s take the pastor and the others and send them to the hoosegow with the maximum sentence allowed by law (assuming of course that the account of the assault is accurate).
And if some of the sheriff’s deputies refused to enforce the law (which seems to be what happened), let’s send them to the unemployment line.
This country has enough problems and we simply can’t afford to waste time on the sort of bullshit that is typical of a banana republic.
trealoo33
@maria miklas: Speaking from a black woman herself it is not a MORAL issue, it is DISCRIMINATION, but you wouldn’t know the different because I am assuming that you are white. You really don’t have to clue how much it hurts to have you be so insensitive to a different background. Try being black or gay for a day.