What started with a spilled cocktail ended with an enraged man calling a gay couple a pair of “white faggots” then smashing a chair over their heads. But don’t get it twisted, folks. Because the attacker now claims that he’s the real victim.
The disturbing incident happened at Dallas BBQ in New York earlier this year. Ethan York-Adams and Jonathan Snipes were enjoying a late night dinner at Dallas BBQ in New York when they had an altercation with Bayna El-Amin over a spilled drink.
Related: Everything We Know About Suspected NYC BBQ Attacker, Including That He’s Gay
According to the couple, El-Amin beat them to the ground then proceeded to kick them before breaking a wooden chair over their heads while shouting antigay slurs. The entire attack was caught on video.
Now, El-Amin, who is also gay, is suing the couple he beat and witnesses of the attack for defamation, as well as the restaurant because, well, why not? What does he have to lose at this point?
In a complaint filed with the Manhattan Supreme Court, El-Amin claims that since the video of him beating the men went viral he has been labeled as a “homophobic hate criminal” and that it has “destroyed his life.” He also says that his “only crime was to be a man of color wrongly accused by his attacker, a privileged white man.”
Related: Straight White Man Says He’s The Victim Of A Hate Crime, Angry That Police Disagree
And as for that video, El-Amin claims it was edited and that the its release left him “completely isolated and ostracized from society” and ultimately forced him to go into hiding.
Finally, in response to the whole chair thing, El-Amin claims he was “left with no choice” but to smash it over the men’s heads because he “feared for his life” and he needed a way to “safely retreat from his attackers.”
He is now seeking damages for assault and battery against Snipes and York-Adams, negligence against the restaurant where the incident occurred, and defamation against several witnesses who he feels ratted him out to police.
Watch the disturbing video of the attack below and let us know what you think. Was it edited? Or is El-Amin grasping at straws?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyuzV2D7U98
h/t: Pink News
Tom Strohecker
Boo hoo.
Christopher Hayward
He is guilty of assult and battery.
Auxifur Delfang Wolfgram
Victim of what, exactly?
Michael R. Thomas
P O S ….and as if what he did isn’t bad enough, he decided to play the race card….Yeah, you could tell he feared for his life…. So he’s sueing everyone but the people that saw the video of this ridiculous racially motivated hate crime….if he could find a way to sue the viewers , he would … Asshole… $$$$ will make it all better…
sportsguy1983
So it wasn’t a hate crime based on sexual orientation but based on race.
Brian Nesbitt
Using race as a means of avoiding punishment for being a violet douchebag is disgusting.
Victor Barry
He acted like a dangerous asshole then, and this proves it goes to his horrible nature. Ostracized? Good.
Cagnazzo82
How exactly does a night out end with you smashing a chair over someone else’s head.
Furthermore, how exactly do you smash a chair over someone’s head… and still consider yourself the victim? How absurd.
Stache
@Cagnazzo82: With the victims back to you.
Cagnazzo82
@Stache: If the victims instigated the fight, it still should not have escalated to smashing a chair over someone’s head in a restaurant. I mean really.
If there are things being said, why not just leave it verbal?
William Charles Stites
What a bitch,so wrong and the race card!
moldisdelicious
Well…. the story goes that the two white dudes started the fight but are trying to play the victim because they got beat up. So yeah, I’m with him on that.
Will Glitzern
Someone smash a chair over his head.
Bob LaBlah
If he were smart he would contact Vince McMahon and see if he could be packaged as King Kong Bundys’ illegitimate child. He is just about the same size and King Kong Bundy and young enough to be his son. That chair across the head move was strait out of the WWE. Perfect timing.
moldisdelicious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=76&v=1SUlEsVD4ZM
Here’s the video of the entire fight caught on cctv showing one of the white guys starting the fight since queerty won’t show it.
Douglas Schlitz
Any court with half a brain will throw it out !
film2212
1.
Ethan York-Adams and Jonathan Snipes WERE NOT having a late night dinner at Dallas BBQ
they went to dallas BBQ to have cheap drinks after coming from XES lounge which means they were probably drunk
2. jonathan snipes was being disruptive to other people in the restaurant
3.Jonathan snipes started an altercation with Bayna El-Amin and hit him with an object in his hand
(which by the way is called FELONY ASSAULT)
Truthfully He should be glad new York has tough gun laws
Any other state in this country he might have been shot for going up and attacking someone and it would have been legal to do so
Masc Pride
With what we know now, shouldn’t the headline read “Gay Man Who Smashed Chair Over Two Gay Men’s Heads Claims He’s The Real Victim”? I see the Queerty writers are still trying to play down the fact that they rushed to report this as a hate crime (based on sexuality). Not that this site had any credibility to begin with, but it seems like posting a retraction would be the responsible thing to do.
film2212
You starting a fight and then getting beat up because the person is bigger than you doesn’t make you the victim
film2212
Where is the full 6 minute video that shows jonathan snipes going up to Bayna El-Amin and saying something to him and hitting him with an object he had in his hand
Other media outlets have it
Stache
I’m not sure him using the “privileged white person” is the best defense strategy. Although, I’m sure it was tossed around allot amongst your friends.
Erwin Franke
Never feed a faggot meat.
moldisdelicious
@film2212:
I posted it since queerty refused to.
pjm1
Well, El-Amin was criminally charged with assault and attempted assault. That
is rather significant and he should be focusing on that.
A snowball has a better chance in hell then El Amin winning a civil suit.
And, for the claim that the video was edited, if that is in the civil suit, he better
have some proof/evidence, making false statements in legal filings can become
real problems for plaintiff’s attorney.
film2212
they still wont listen to you
Some commenters are worse than hard-core republicans
they will believe a story even if it doesn’t make sense in the real world and even if you have video and audio proof
They will say you’re wrong
Stache
@film2212: Then he should’ve had someone call the cops and not wait till the victim had his back fully turned.
money718
I hope he wins, since the white queens started it.
LubbockGayMale
As someone once said, “a good defense is offensive”
film2212
OH Goody
Let me call the cops when someone has their back to me before they pull out a gun or another weapon after the person who just attacked me for no reason
I can be on the phone with the cops while i’m bleeding out
Joseph Cronin
And hate crime
BJ McFrisky
See what happens when Lefties fabricate a victimization meme like “white privilege”? They think it’s a clever way to demean their political opponents . . . until it inevitably comes back to bite them in the ass.
Way to go, Lefties, way to go.
Jimmy Shumsky
Oh ok
film2212
If a random person walks up to me and assaults me
im going to try to knock your ass out because I don’t know if you have a gun or a knife in your pocket
This scenario is the best argument against STAND YOUR GROUND
film2212
Would it have been better if he had used STAND YOUR GROUND and shot him
film2212
if you have the unmitigated gall to walk up to someone you don’t know and just assault them (especially someone bigger than you )
Then you’re capable of doing other things
Alex Rothwell
Can’t control himself.
Maxie Grant
Bullies always cry victim. It’s because they are such cowards.
Xzamilio
@Stache: He is most definitely wrong for assaulting them with the chair, but the way I see it, the chair never would have come into play if El-Amin had not been accosted first, and the full video I see shows El-Amin sitting down while one of the other guys makes it his mission to go over to his table and hit him FIRST. The minute you do that, you forfeit any expectation of not being hit back. I am not condoning El-Amin hitting them with the chair, but I’m not losing any sleep over this, and I am especially disappointed with Queerty and their piss poor attempt to spin this like it’s a “Look. Another violent black using the race card.” The full video has been out for a minute. Do better, because this is just on the nose racial prejudice.
Juanjo
There seem to be a lot of arm chair lawyers here who have decided this case one way or another. But the law and reality does not really help this man in his claim. One of the people in the couple did apparently approach him and say something and possibly dump his drink on him. That clearly is assault and battery. If the attack continues he has a right to protect himself but the defense has to be proportionate.
Despite Miss “Stand Your Ground”‘s assertion, calling you a name and dumping a drink on you does not give you the right to shoot someone dead. Even in states that have “stand your ground” laws this is not a license to shoot down anyone who offends you. If it was there would be a lot more dead red necks in Texas and Florida.
El-Amin may be entirely correct that Snipes used a racial or ethnic slur towards him. But again that is not a valid reason for breaking a chair over someone’s head when their back is turned. El-Amin escalated the altercation and he is going to have to prove to a jury that this altercation was a reasonable response to the situation.
Someone mentioned Snipes may have been intoxicated and perhaps he was. I suspect that El-Amin was also intoxicated given the location and time of night.
Oh and Miss McFrisky, I know you have an obsession with “leftists” but really girlfriend, do try to stay on topic here and not interject your political obsessions into everything you see or hear.
Xzamilio
Now with that said, I’m going to have to read El-Amin, too, because the video clearly shows he was the one closest to the exit and could have left before hitting them with the chair, so I call bullshit on that whole “in fear for my life” nonsense. The full video — this is not the full video — is on the internet, Graham, so try linking that one instead of this one that only catches the tail end of the altercation.
film2212
Missy read up on your Stand your grounds Laws
these particular paragraphs should help you and make it more clearer
-Proponents of stand your ground counter that the laws allow people to protect themselves without worrying about whether they have retreated sufficiently before using force.
The purpose behind these laws is to remove any confusion about when individuals can defend themselves and to eliminate prosecutions of people who legitimately used self-defense even though they had not attempted to retreat from the threat
Captain Obvious
@moldisdelicious: Thank you for posting this. I suspected this was the case but since I wasn’t there I couldn’t really speculate too much. The white guys started it, attacked him while he was sitting, and got their asses rightfully kicked.
Now all the r@cist white guys who couldn’t wait to spew slurs and other garbage are going in on him despite the fact that he was defending himself. And I’ll laugh at any pansy who says he should’ve left… you attack another man and hurl a racial slur you better expect to get your ass handed to you.
@Xzamilio: Hi, Raven Symone. I know how badly you want some pale sausage in your mouth, but you’re never going to get it. This high yellow man got called the N word and you think you won’t? I’m sure you’re used to running away from altercations like a little coward. White worship didn’t work for Michael Jackson what makes you think it’ll be any different for you? Girl, bye.
Cagnazzo82
@moldisdelicious: Hm, this video changes my opinion. In fact the queens who got hit with the chair did instigate the fight. But I feel it would’ve been better to not have escalated the altercation to involving the chair at all. Especially if the fight were over.
He would probably also be in a better legal position had he not reciprocated at all.
But yes, the people he attacked were looking for a fight.
Now I really wonder what precipitated the point at which the queens went over and got physical.
Tony Chaplinski
who’s he kidding? He’s a bigoted bully with identity problem
film2212
We also know for a fact that Snipes was drinking
but we don’t know about El AMin even though there is a good chance he wasn’t drinking
because he said he had just come from a breast awareness fundraiser and they don’t serve alcohol at their fundraisers because alcohol is a contributing factor
No one dumped a drink on him he hit him with an object in his hand
he spilled a drink of another customers
AJAnders
He may not have started the altercation OR the fight but he is completely delusional if he thinks anyone is going to actually believe that he feared for his life. The two “privileged white dudes” took several steps AWAY from him AND had their backs to him when he picked up that chair and blasted it over their heads. They didn’t have weapons, his life was NOT in any danger, the two guys did not block the exit to the restraurant. He was completely capable of leaving on his own.
Captain Obvious
@Cagnazzo82: Honestly after getting hit in the head with that glass or whatever it was he threw at him… he’d have been kicking himself if he didn’t get an equal lick in.
Especially given all these lil privileged queens rallying to the defense of those who started the damned fight in the first place.
There’s a reason people are helping the real victim stay in hiding rather than outing him to the police. The privileged queens on the internet can say what they want but the real video makes it clear that there’s a lot more to the story and that the two attackers got what they deserved.
Captain Obvious
@AJAnders: You know what lil girl, the video also posted in the comments shows that Mr. Amin was seated minding his own business, and got hit over the head with something by Snipes FOR NO REASON unprovoked.
Keep defending the attackers and demonizing the victim for evening the score. You attack someone you better expect retaliation. They got what they gave with interest. Get over it.
The real world will spank adults who never got spanked by their parents. Grow up, ladies.
Kevin J Desmond
AJAnders
@Captain Obvious
Your reading comprehension is a joke. I said he didn’t start the fight. The longer video proves that. That was never in question.
But he stated that “I feared for my life” and “I needed a way to safely leave my attackers,” as justification for picking up the chair when he did – the end of the video proves that was not the case.
If you’re man enough to fight back against someone, than just say THAT was the reason. But don’t lie and say you feared for your life when the video proves that you didn’t.
Captain Obvious
@AJAnders: You don’t know that he didn’t fear for his life. It has come out that Snipes was picking up other objects possibly a knife and blocking the way to the exit. Keep defending them.
sjbouza
Why don’t we show the full video as shot from the restaurants surveillance system. It shows the that El-Amin was attacked first, punched or hit in the head with an object. This is self defense in my book and the little queens that got their a** handed to them deserve what they got!
https://youtu.be/1SUlEsVD4ZM
money718
The drunk white queens started and should be held accountable.
Glenn Strode
Coward…
Bob LaBlah
@AJAnders: Honey, I don’t know if you have ever been in or ever seen a knock down, dragged out fight before but I sure as hell have. I have seen numerous incidents where the person appeared to be down, the other walked away, and the person who was down got up and ran after the other person and the fight was on again. Fights are what they are, violent. There are a lot of queens who work out in the gym, take kickboxing classes and all of that and get the impression they can handle “anything” only to discover that all of that training did not prepare them for a street fight. People are killed sometimes in street fights.
I do NOT blame the guy for whacking that little whore up’side her damn head with that chair. Let me be sure I saw the video clearly; girl’s drunk ass decided to go after a guy twice her size (who knows, maybe the queen studied capoeira in ballet school. Don’t laugh because many of them DO) and then hits him in his FACE with her bag? I know women who carry bricks in their purses and have said they have whacked people in the head with it….who knows what was in that bag? I’ll bet the police didn’t look in it either.
The guy he was with looks strong enough to wrestle a man down to the ground and both were drunk……..sorry, but I say the big guy defended himself in this one. I had heard rumors that a video existed that showed what really happened and when it surfaced it would tell another story.
It sure as hell did in my book. Not guilty of assault. Case closed. Jury dismissed. In my book at least.
JerseyMike
@sjbouza: Drunk queens got that azz beat.. You can’t start sh!t and expect people not to fight back.. Don’t feel sorry at all.. Next time they will keep walking.. The news made it seem like they were attack when he was the one attacked.. Thank you for posting the Video.. I’m sure many will still think he didn’t have a right to fight back.. GOOD FOR HIM!!!
Cagnazzo82
@Captain Obvious: Also makes me wonder why the surveillance video was edited just to show the end of the fight last time this was reported.
Very disingenuous on whoever edited that video to make the assailants look like victims.
Kevin Uhrin
No he a fucking asshole
Captain Obvious
@Cagnazzo82: It’s really disgusting as is the fact that CBS irresponsibly took it and ran with the misinformation. The man is right he’s been slandered all up and through the gay community and by the internet.
All they saw was a big black guy and not only assumed he was guilty but homophobic. Now all the idiots with egg on their faces are too narcissistic to admit they were wrong for making prejudiced assumptions so they just keep falling back on the chair.
Bob Kellerman
6’6″, 350 lbs, according to previous arrest record. Poor dainly thing can’t defend itself without fighting dirty or playing the “Black should always be excused” card
Captain Obvious
@Kevin Uhrin: You’re an asshole. He was seated minding his own business at a restaurant when some r@cist queen assaulted him, created a lie about him being homophobic, and made up lies about slurs being thrown. Get over yourself.
Snipes recount of events do not match up at all with what actually happened on the unedited footage. Snipes cried victim and played the gay card. He was the original attacker. Wake up.
It’s so easy for you to blame the black guy and ignore all the facts.
trell
@Juanjo:
Well put! That post nailed it!
SportGuy
Glad that I got to see the whole video now! I always suspected that race was a factor in this. From the video it is easy to see the two queens started the altercation and most likely race was the issue for them and he did nothing but defend himself as they started it. Maybe they won’t go starting fights they can’t finish anymore.
JerseyMike
@Bob Kellerman: Don’t be mad because the lost a fight they started.. there is no such thing as a fair fight.. someone will always be bigger.. the little queen should have thought about it before you started the fight.. Get his ass beat and now wants to call the police.. I will bet they will think twice before the jump on someone else.. LMAO……
film2212
Just pretend he’s a gay 4 pay porn star
They get the benefit of the doubt
for any thing they do even when theyr’e guilty as hell
attempted rape ,assault ,felony assault, robbery, drugs
Xzamilio
@AJAnders: Don’t waste your time talking to victims because they don’t see anything other than something to feel wronged about. I actually am in defense of El-Amin, as the whole incident would have been avoided if the drunk dudes had not gotten up and started anything. But of course, the insult to our race that is Captain Obvious can’t help himself and sees what he wants to see. His lack of comprehension is equally matched by his lack of couth.
Xzamilio
@Bob Kellerman: “Itself”, huh? That says more about you than you think it does. Poor dainly little thing was minding his own business when of those meek little victims got in his face and assaulted him… he made it his mission to go over there and get in the big bad black man’s face, and you got the audacity to act like all of the blame is on him. Some of your queens have it in your head that you are just that… queens. Women… and think you can get in someone’s face bigger than you and act a damn fool. Well, I’ll say the same thing I say about women who can’t keep their hands to themselves: I don’t condone anyone being hurt badly, but when you start the fight, you lose the expectation of not being hit back.
And let’s get one thing straight: I don’t know what parallel universe you live in, but we don’t have a “Blacks should always be excused” card, because if we did, there’d be more of YOU in prison than ME… there’d be more of ME not having to worry about being followed for looking suspicious. Fuck outta here.
Michael Claypoole
A Republican judge would set him free.
Burt Santos
Everyone that holds a cellphone recoding while another person is getting beaten should be in jail.
Claude Peterson
a psychiatric case
jrh311
He didn’t instigate the fight, but he sure took it to a crazy extreme. The chair was thrown out of anger and not self defense. You can tell this by the way he calmly walks out of the restaurant. In his mind they got what they deserved. Unfortunately, we can’t always give people what they deserve without consequences. I feel bad he was smeared as a homophobe, but he clearly has a temper otherwise he wouldn’t have flown out of his seat and rushed at the guys like a wild animal. Just a bunch of crappy people from what I can tell.
Patrick Brandt
He is guilty. He looked like he was completely drunk too. So, add drunk and disorderly.
Xzamilio
@jrh311: Like a wild animal? If he was the wild animal, then HE would have been the one that started the altercation, but as it was, it was the OTHER
guy that decided to go up to someone else and act a fool. They’re both wrong, but one is wrong because of the other one’s wrong that started it all. I seriously wished he had been the bigger person and walked away, because I would have loved to see how this would have been spun if the other guy had only been the one being stupid. My guess is that it would be a helluva lot different than it is now…
He definitely overreacted, but as the old saying goes: Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit.
Beto Van
Disgusting cowardly BULLY! Victim of himself…and should be charged to the fullest. Fortunately, he didn’t kill the man…my deepest sympathies to the survivors.
Bob LaBlah
@Xzamilio……” He definitely overreacted.”
Sorry honey, but I disagree. If you look closely it seems as though girl broke away from the guy who was holding her back and switched her ass over to El-Kabong’s (or what ever the hell his name is) table where he is clearly talking on a cellphone. Girl passed the first lick and paid the price. She was out of control and seeing the performance she was giving prior to the incident on the video she was already performing loudly.
Think for a minute….how many times have you been in a mall, theatre, the subway, a Thanksgiving dinner…whatever, and seen a kid/adult just completely out of control and wanted to smack the shit out of them but had no right to so you didn’t? But the shit that person was doing/did found the last nerve of you and everyone who saw it and had no other choice but to listen to it? And then they attack you out of the clear blue sky. Well, then is your chance to let out your frustration. Just as they wanted to do to you you did to them instead. That was no love tap with that purse/bag across his face.
This is a classic case of “queen, you’ve fucked with the WRONG one this time.” I mean get real. That is a BIG man that she sure as hell DID fuck with in the wrong way. If ever an incident were needed to show her drunk ass she has a problem that can one day get her or some one else killed this was it. Trust me, love them as I still do there are several people who were in my life that I would NOT go out drinking or partying with because they can’t control their liquor nor mouths.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Captain Obvious: The Queerty posters (and Queerty) always do that though. Whatever the race of the alleged perp. Look at the recent case in Texas where Marc Pourner was found murdered, and read the posts under the Queerty article. Everybody was screeching it was a hate crime, because it was Texas. With the arrest, and the realization that the murder was more of a personal thing, how many of the posters admitted they were wrong? Only one. And that’s just one example. So I don’t know how much of a race thing this NYC case is with Queerty. They’re equal-opportunity dishonest.
bigrawtop
I was taught that when you respond with violence, you lower yourself to their standard. Be the bigger person. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It doesn’t matter what the “white dudes” did.
The fact that so many think that extreme violence is an appropriate response shows how fucked up this country is.
I’m betting this guy has a history of responding with violence if he thinks that he wasn’t safe and this was a justified response.
Ridpathos
This is what happens when people watch WorldStar and think whacking people with furniture is an appropriate response to perceived disrespect.
SeeingMoreClearly
@bigrawtop: But maybe this counter-attack will make the guy who started with violence think twice about doing it next time. So in the long run it’s preventing violence overall.
Mark Pointon
What a Cunt
Mark Jusino
Nope sorry! Don’t play the race card on this. You yelled anti-gay slurs and assaulted them. Of course, it comes out as a hate crime. You did this to yourself!
moldisdelicious
@Ridpathos:
Funny how no one mentions how one of the white guys could have caused serious harm by throwing the glass cup in that man’s face to begin with.
Tracy Pope
@Masc Pride: It’s copy/pasted from other sites with very little editing. Yeah, the white guy started it but using their supposed “white privilege” (the race card) in defense of your own actions just makes most disinclined to care.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Mark Jusino: Would it have been okay if he assaulted them (in response to their assault to begin with) without using the slurs ?
Captain Obvious
@Xzamilio: Your learning disability is amusing and stop saying “our race” when we all know you want to play in the snow so badly that you can’t stop bashing black people hoping someone white on an internet site will pay you one iota of attention.
You’re as black as Raven Symone and your idiotic opinions are just like hers. You’ve been claiming the use of the chair was extreme and that he should’ve walked away and now you do an about face when I call you out. Whatever, little girl.
Get it through your thick skull that no white man will ever want you and move on. The more you try to suck up online the more pathetic you look. Even when a video proves this man was completely justified in his actions and beyond provoked you still had to make him out to be a bad guy.
You even called him “big bad black man’s face”… really nig? You toss around the white man’s stereotypes of black men and wonder why I talk to and about you the way I do?
This guy was described by pretty much everyone who actually knows him as a queen and yet here you are calling him “big bad black man”. And acting like he should ignore anyone who assaults him and feel no fear in a fight because he’s “big” “bad” and “black”.
You’re the definition of an Uncle Tom. Go choke on a chode, fag.
Iver Frank Becklund
Homophobe is what he is, not The Real Victim.
Nekobot917
@moldisdelicious: Not suprised at all that the two guys “attacked” were lying and playing victim because they got beat up. I’ve seen white people do this before many times.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Patrick Brandt: Some gay guys get vicious when they drink. I wonder if his date ever went out with him again.
Brian
To me, it just seems that he’s got race issues. It also appears that some of those present should have done more to stop him from performing this violent act.
SeeingMoreClearly
@LubbockGayMale: A good defense is also having the whole thing on film.
Nekobot917
@BJ McFrisky: How is “white privilege” a fictional term? At the base level it is, because there’s nothing better then white men than anyone else. However when you have a system that’s run by them that many of them operate and cater to each other, then that term applies.
Nekobot917
@Xzamilio: You look at the front page of this site and see it lined up with drones of pictures white men and think their isn’t racial prejudice on this site? Please.
Nekobot917
@AJAnders: So was George Zimmerman, who got out of his car, followed and instigated a fight? Then shot a Teenager, was totally cleared. I’m sure the same ones who say this guy was wrong for the chair, are the exact ones who supported George Zimmerman though.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Nekobot917: They used to be against whites here. They were totally for ruining the lives of the Duke lacrosse guys in 2006. Now they’re more…..just against anybody, of any color, when he’s accused of homophobia. Even if it’s a false accusation
Sluggo2007
No surprise here. Play the race card and claim you were the victim. Typical behavior of his ilk.
moldisdelicious
@Nekobot917:
Think it’s very embarassing that folks are trying to hold on to the narrative that the two supposed victims said. If the two victims were black and did the same shit, these fuckboys would be ready to hate like how they always do.
Xzamilio
@Nekobot917: What the fuck are you idiots reading? Where did I say there wasn’t racial prejudice on this site? Fuck the whole lot of you.
JerseyMike
@Sluggo2007: Two queens got that ass beat for putting hands on someone.. now they they want to play victim.. Typical behavior of their ilk..
Kangol
@moldisdelicious: Thanks for the full video. It’s pathetic that this site and many posters refuse to believe what’s clearly shown to be a provocation by the white “victims.”
Also, the headline really should read “gay man who smashed chair over two gay men’s heads….” Or is Queerty denying that El-Amin, who is clearly gay, isn’t gay, and if so, WHY?
JerseyMike
@bigrawtop: I am sure the little drunk queen has a history of violence too.. He didn’t have a problem attacking someone. He got what he deserved.
Tereasa
So typical of these kind of terrorist. When they are caught they cry that they are the victim. So full of bullshit.
Tereasa
So typical of this kind of terrorist. Making themselves the victim. It’s bullshit!
JerseyMike
@Tereasa: The biggest terrorist there has very been probably look like your father.. So its ok for that queen to attack him but he shouldn’t hit back.. so typical of you and yours.. watch the full video posted in the comment section..
jrh311
@Captain Obvious: Hats off to your wonderful impersonation of a douchebag more vile than anyone in this news story and in the comments section combined. And nice profile pic…
jrh311
I can’t figure out what’s more disturbing here…The fact that almost the majority of people here think it’s an acceptable reaction to slam a chair on the top of someone’s head in response to something being thrown at them or the overabundance of misogynistic and homophobic comments. Truly a gruesome peak into some of the social behavior of the gay male community.
darian
I agree with the guy. I mean look at how he’s being vilified here. All because he was defending himself and helped his attacker have a seat…. Literally.
Stache
I think they’re all douchebags but at the end of the day it’s only going to matter what the court thinks.
Clearly El Amin is lying about fearing for his life. This defence will not work. The video says different. If some of you can’t see that then you’re obviously biased.
The truth was that he bashed him over the head out of anger. The question is does the court excuse it as justifiable retaliation.
SeeingMoreClearly
You can tell how many reactionary dopes here comment without even reading the other comments. We have a video of the smaller queen attacking El-Amin first, and people are still posting as though that video doesn’t exist.
Cagnazzo82
@SeeingMoreClearly: Likely because the main article posted a misleading video claiming ‘full video’ in the title when it’s only starting in the middle of the altercation.
Some people aren’t interested in reading all the comments, so they’re only seeing the misleading video.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Cagnazzo82: But people will keep coming to Queerty to be lied to. Must love being treated like jerks.
Cagnazzo82
@SeeingMoreClearly: True, Queerty should be more responsible in reporting this story in the future.
But also part of the problem is the person who posted that video intentionally mislead numerous news organizations all linking or referencing that video when they initially reported on this story.
The video itself is called ‘full video’ in the title on youtube when it clearly is not the full video.
So I think the person who posted that video deserves the lion share of the blame regarding why this story gave such a wrong impression.
Stache
@Nekobot917: After watching the full video I see El Amin’s side better and I sympathise with him. However, what he did was wrong. He needs to stop lying and man up and accept that. His handlers aren’t doing him any favors eiher by filling his head up with that “privileged white men talk”. Yeah, that’s going to go over real well in the courtroom. Lol
SeeingMoreClearly
@Stache: He shouldn’t have used a chair. That was going to far. He should have just punched the guy out or something. Otherwise, I’m on his side. And I agree that people bring too much of a racial angle into this are being misleading. Go to ANY case of alleged gaybashing on Queerty or Towleroad, involving two people of any race, and you’ll see the calls to lynch the alleged attacker, and no apologies when the case turns out to be a fraud.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Cagnazzo82: True about who gets most of the blame, but Queerty should check better. And by this time they should update the article.
SportGuy
Those two little stupid queens brought this on themselves. If you go and hit a man he has every right to defend himself, maybe the queens will learn to picking on people they can take, like grade schools girls.
markmarmarm
@sjbouza: This longer video changes everything and this man deserves his day in court and fair trial if this evidence is present.
Looks like New York doesn’t have a stand your ground law, but a duty to retreat law. Sucks for El-Amin. Hopefully he can afford a good lawyer.
Of course he shouldn’t have resorted to using a chair, but he did have a right to defend himself.
jrh311
OMG he did NOT defend himself! He got REVENGE! If he was defending himself he would have thrown the chair during an altercation. Instead he did it AFTER the fight had ended. Then he walked out of the restaurant with satisfaction.
Tackle
@Xzamilio: Glad to see that you changed your mind. Because when this incident first occurred, you jumped on the bandwagon condemning El-Amin. I remember your sharp condemnation in your blog post. Would be great if you issued an apology for jumping to conclusions.@moldisdelicious: And thank you for posting what is the truth. Yes the White guy did start this whole altercation…But I had a feeling from day one…
Stache
@jrh311: Yup. You win the post for the day. It’s exactly what the judge is going to say. It happened well after the fight was over. It’s simple revenge. Case closed.
Tackle
And many of the posters keep wrongly referring to El-Amin as Black, or a Black man. Folks, El-Amin is non-Black Middle Eastern. Yes like Hispanic or Latino, he could be a Black one. But in this case, no…
JerseyMike
@jrh311: Stop defending that queen for hitting that man in his face with whatever he had in his hand.. No one wants to say he was wrong for starting the fight.. Mr. El-Amin would not need to get revenge if that drunk queen had not started it.. He is lucky Mr. El-Amin didn’t do something worst..
jrh311
@JerseyMike: Please, tell me what I said that suggests I’m defending anyone’s actions. And quit with the homophobic “queen” nonsense. It’s already gotten old.
JerseyMike
No one is condemning Ethan York-Adams for his outburst/anger/violence!! Everyone wants to blame Mr. El-Amin for his anger saying he should have controlled himself. Where was Ethan York-Adams self-control.. His friend trying to hold him back but his anger got the best of him and could not be held back. The hypocrisy is so evident its maddening. Keep your fcuking hands to yourself and you will not get a chair upside your head. Next time it may not be a chair.
Xzamilio
@Tackle: I had long since erased that blog post because there were too many holes in the story and I was going by what had been first reported, which I shouldn’t have done until more information had come out. But, I still feel that he overreacted with the chair, but like I said, the chair would have never have been a factor had York-Adams not assaulted him first. And the spin that Queerty has put on this is deplorable because it still paints El-Amin as some homophobic assailant who just attacked two innocent men out of vitriol and spite.
But I’m not apologizing for what I said. I will just say that I was wrong, and the post is gone.
Bob LaBlah
@JerseyMike: “No one is condemning Ethan York-Adams for his outburst/anger/violence!! Everyone wants to blame Mr. El-Amin for his anger saying he should have controlled himself.”
You might want to go back and read my comments. And I am white, by the way.
SeeingMoreClearly
@Xzamilio: At least you admit you were mistaken, which most of the Queerty posters will never do. Nor the Queerty staff.
SeeingMoreClearly
BTW : Can you imagine what creepy sneaky little queens the Queerty staff must be ? To just put false stories on here and leave them, knowing people are reading all these untruths…
Captain Obvious
@jrh311: Stop being such a drama queen making everything about you.
jrh311
@Captain Obvious: Oh brother… I do hope one day you find someone to love you so you may not be such an ass hat.
Xzamilio
@SeeingMoreClearly: Yeah, but there’s a certain troll bitch on this site who apparently is dyslexic and swears up and down I’m cooning for some white peen and am defending the two white men, one of whom clearly started the whole conflict and escalated it. I was wrong. I admit it… you learn and you try to do better in the future.
Xzamilio
@Bob LaBlah: Well, you disagree. Okay. I stand by what I said.
JerseyMike
@jrh311: queen, queen,queen QUEEN!!!
jrh311
@JerseyMike: Yeah…still old. Get a thesaurus or something.
Tackle
@Xzamilio: Well that goes a long way, especially for those who read your comments on your blog. It definitely shows integrity. Just not use to gays admitting they were wrong, or apologizing, however lightly, or in some way.
Those of you who are surprised at the spin that Queerty has put on this story, in favor of the White gay guy, don’t be. While they may occasionally do a positive story about a Black man/men: overwhelmingly, their stories regarding black men tend to be negative. So that being said, yes Queerty is Pro gay White.
Queerty, and the writer reflect the mindset of the larger, dominate gay White community. Lack of value of anyone who is not a gay White male. And when confronted with being wrong, they will never admit a mistake, or confess they were wrong. This case is a perfect example. When this story first came out, and the attacker was described as a light skinned black guy: the KKK in MANY White LGBTQ people, reared it’s ugly head . AGAIN… And I say again, because during the 2008 Prop-8 elections, to ban LGBTQ marriage, Blacks were blamed. Despite the fact that two yrs before the elections, thousands upon thousands foot solderers from predominately white churches and religious institutions, gained support and donations, in all, raising over One hundred million in passing prop-8. First reports say that Black support was at 70 percent. Then it went down to 58. Then finally down to the 47 percent. And what was conveniently overlooked was/is blacks make up only 9 percent of all registered voters. Even still, over half did not even bothered to vote. Conclusion: No major LGBTQ organization has ever come forward to say the members of the LGBTQ community who falsely blamed Blacks for the passage of Pro-8 were wrong. LGBTQ people who allowed their inner klan to rise up, wont apologize. Just like in this case here, and all one has to do is go back to the post on this story and read all the r@cist comments, directed to El-Amin thinking he was Black… And seeing and knowing that the White guy started this whole thing, not one poster, other than @Xzamilio has admitted they were wrong. And yet, we, LGBTQ people, always want and expect others to apologize to their unfair treatment of us…
Realityis
@Xzamilio: I agree with everything you are saying on this thread…
Marky
SOCIOPATH.