Earlier this month we reported on some truly disturbing footage of an apparent gay bashing at Dallas BBQ in New York City’s Chelsea neighborhood.
Jonathan Snipes, 32, and his boyfriend, Ethan York-Adams, 25, were beaten over the head with a wooden chair, thrown to the ground and repeatedly kicked by two men shouting anti-gay slurs.
A few days later, police released video footage of the suspect, Bayna El-Amin, and there were early rumors suggesting he is gay.
Since then, more details have emerged about El-Amin.
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Here’s what we know:
- The rumors appear to be true.
Gawker dug up El-Amin’s Facebook page, which is listed under an “alias variation of his birth name,” which points to El-Amin being engaged to another man.
Below is a screenshot of an Instagram post of the two (the other man’s identity has been protected), captioned “Bear & cub.”
Here’s an engagement announcement El-Amin posted in February 2014:
- El-Amin is described as a “career criminal” by NYPD, and has served serious prison time for forgery and credit card fraud in Georgia.
- Animal reports that until recently, El-Amin listed on his Facebook page that he was working “Personal Security for Sketchie ENTertainment,” a nightclub promotion company.
- The “hate crime” element will be a complicated issue to dissect. El-Amin reportedly called the couple “white faggots” before and during the attack. Gawker spoke with Lambda Legal Deputy Legal Director Hayley Gorenberg, who said, “Even if the victim or the aggressor share the same characteristics, that’s not going to answer the question of whether what happened here was a hate crime. It’s going to be about the motivation.”
- El-Amin has not been apprehended, and police believe he has fled the state.
Bauhaus
So what. He’s gay. Doesn’t mean he’s not anti-gay, and that he can control himself in public. There are lots of gay, anti-gay folks on here, too, but I doubt they would go around bashing gays in public. Not physically, anyway. Looks like the jailbird could be headed back to prison? Hope so. Social media is such a bitch (snitch) for criminals; gay bashers, especially.
gskorich
what is worrisome is we never see the full video. we only see the part where he picks up the chair. what led to that point? we see the boyfriend pulling the one guy away but what was going on before the chair was thriwn
JessPH
According to some witnesses, it was actually the white gay guy who started the attack. Makes sense since it took time before the attacked couple reported the incident to the police. The attacked couple refuses to be interviewed by the media too. They’re not being 100% truthful.
huckchuck
The hate crime sounds like a racial hate crime rather than a homophobic hate crime. He did specify *white* faggots.
Bauhaus
@JessPH:
Even if there was a verbal altercation, it ended with, well, the video was disturbing. I’m mostly for only locking-up violent criminals. Be it sexual, physical. There are exceptions, of course, but the violent ones shouldn’t be roaming around free.
Glücklich
The second biggest crime here is that Jeri Curl. Egads!
Bauhaus
@Glücklich:
That mullet deserves a summons too!
blackberry finn
Seems primarily *racially* motivated. I want to see a riot!!
Charli Girl
Self hate is all over the place, that is not a ” get out of jail free card”! Check out the Duggars, SELF HATE, Fire Island / Ted Cruz buddies..( self hate)
Paco
Maybe his rage toward the “white f______”, was merely a symptom of a larger systemic issue festering in our community. Who knows if we will ever get the entire story. I doubt it since he has gone on the run.
money718
The racial issue between white gays and black gays is legit in the city. No surprise at all.
SportGuy
Not really surprised that he is gay! I never thought this was a gay hate crime! Everyone knows there is a huge race problem in the gay community that everyone likes to ignore!! Keep ignoring it and this will continue to happen until the gay community solves the race issue.
Masc Pride
@SportGuy: I never thought it was a hate crime either, at least no more than any other physical altercation. Two f@gs got in a fight, and one got his a55 handed to him lol. Though I do find it entertaining to watch all the LGB sites backpedaling after rushing to label it a hate crime (despite obviously not knowing some very important details).
Realitycheck
Glad the police knows who the guys is, sad to see once again people
talking more about race and f-gs then the actual crime, this is an extremely
violent individual, and no matter what happen that night, nobody has the right
to attack another human being the way this filth did.
@Masc Pride:
The entire world has a race problem, may be you haven’t noticed but the
“melting pot” ain’t melting, and the R issue is far from gay only.
By the way since I had the bad luck to be one of the people to inform the police and
did have access to Facebook and Instagram accounts before they were made private,
the R -ist comments coming from the black gay community on these accounts were bone chilling.
All my love and kudos to those african american gentlemen that stood up and did the right thing
and were not R-ist in any way, the opposite.
DarkZephyr
His being gay doesn’t make any of it any more OK and LGBT people can certainly be homophobic. We already know this quite well because some of the most vitriolic homophobes have turned out to be gay. Nobody has to do any back peddling about his sexuality because we knew almost from day one that he could be gay. It was all over the place. This is no revelation, so the ones who find the “back peddling” “entertaining” are being entertained by their imaginations.
What *I* know is that the two white gay men were walking away and had their backs turned when a man who called them “white f*ggots” hit them over the heads with a wooden chair as hard as he could. Its not OK to use “f*g” or “f*ggot” as a slur even if you are gay yourself and even if you think its funny. Clearly he knows he did something incredibly wrong because he has fled the state.
jason smeds
Just because he might be in a relationship with a man, it doesn’t mean he’s gay. Nobody can impose an identity on another. Identity – such as identifying as gay – can only be determined by self.
You can well say that a man has homosexual experiences or relationships but that is not imposing an identity.
enfilmigult
@JessPH: Refuses to be interviewed? They spoke right to the media about it, can’t really blame them for not continuing to repeat the same thing over and over for months. They’ve got lives to live.
And really, what the fuck could they have done to justify getting cracked over the head like that. I really want to know what detail you think would magically change the situation to make that justifiable.
Captain Obvious
Yet we have no idea if the N-word or anything else was uttered and no one is going to look into that. Yawn, couldn’t care less.
cheetah69
@DarkZephyr: It might not make it ok. Violence, to me, never is. But it does mean it’s not a hate crime. Are there homophobic gays? Sure. But much like we’ve never heard of a black dude committing a hate crime motivated by race against another black person, we’re not about to hear about a hate crime motivated by homosexuality by a gay person.
Is there back pedaling? Of course. And there should be. Despite the little rumblings surfacing that the assailant could be gay, folks still wanted to run with the hate crime bit. Now I don’t know the details of the situations. But if the guy in this story hit the white guy unprovoked, then he should be punished. However, if this was just an instance of two gay men “getting into it,” well then all I can say is be careful who you start fights with.
jwtraveler
@jason smeds: You can’t impose an identity, but you can infer one.
Why am I saying something rational to you? I should know better.
Bob LaBlah
Family, I am not defending this guy. I just simply say this: There is his version, their version, and lastly, what actually happened to trigger it all.
It is obvious (from the way he is pushing off the people who were trying to restrain him as though they were rag dolls) he is BIG and STRONG. If you know you have “limited” fighting skills some times it is best to be a “faggot” and live to fight another day after you realize you are tired of taking shit like that and hone up on your martial skills.
Don’t ever get so content with being happy that you forgot there are a lot of people out here with short fuses for various reasons and will do worse than this if they see you can’t fight back, race be damned. Learn to defend yourself at all costs. Go down fighting of you must but if shutting up is easier then take the easy route.
I don’t know if they still meet but when I left NYC a few years ago there was a wrestling group that was open to everyone on Sundays at the Gay Center on 13th street. On 23rd street there is a boxing gym that offers a personal trainer for $140 a month too and you can go six days a week. It was advertised everyday in those silly ass, non-informative free papers that litter the subway. Just hope when you get there this guy isn’t your instructor (couldn’t resist throwing that in). Hey, it is a start, isn’t it? Better to know SOMETHING and never need/needed to use it than to need it and don’t have a clue about its use or technique.
DarkZephyr
@Captain Obvious: Of course you couldn’t care less. You are too much of a self absorbed asshole who only cares about his own interests. If it became 100% clear that the N word was never used, you would still insist that the white guys started it (and I am not saying that they didn’t but as you said *we don’t know*). I think that you take pleasure in thinking that every white person is r*cist and the only white guys I have ever seen you type a kind word about were the ones you personally found attractive. Otherwise you don’t give a rats ass about your white LGBT siblings. You don’t care about what happened to these guys. And lets be real, you would NEVER stop and think “gee could any sort of r*cist anti-white slur have been used?” if you ever read about an attack on black people by whites. You demand that people do what you know damned well you would *never* do yourself. You come across as having this preconceived notion that *all* white people are out to get black people and its getting fucking old.
Jacob23
You have to admit that Mr. Snipes is badass. Even his name is kind of cool. Of course, I don’t approve of the assault. The circumstances are pretty murky but he clearly did hit that one guy from behind, which is out of bounds. OTOH, there’s no reason to think he is homophobic. If using the f-word makes him anti-gay, then let’s apply the same standard to the fools who constantly refer to gay people as queer.
Anyway, leaving aside the specifics of this incident, I kind of admire him. He can handle himself in a fight. It’s good to see. I’m used to reading stories about some gay bashing where the gay guy runs away and screams like a girl for someone to help. Gay and bi boys could use some more role models like Mr. Snipes, but w/o the criminal stuff. If he could just work on the anger management issue, he could be someone to look up to.
Arcamenel
@DarkZephyr: white people benefit from a system that was created to oppress people of color, black people specifically. they can handle a little criticism here and there. It’s not like they don’t hold the countries wealth, governing power, make up a majority of the electorate and police force. It’s not like they are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement or have to work twice as hard to get half as much as the next guy. Yes let’s have more sympathy for white people.
DarkZephyr
@Arcamenel: there is nothing wrong with *legitimate* criticism, but the constant paranoid delusions that Captain Obvious spews are tired as hell. Sorry.
DarkZephyr
@Arcamenel: and by the way, there are times and places for the criticism of white people. The way you two do it ad nauseam under almost every article is overkill that defeats what I assume the purpose is. I mean if the purpose is to educate and enlighten. If its to self satisfy then I guess I can’t say the purpose is defeated I suppose. Maybe you guys feel very satisfied with yourselves every time you do it. *shrug*
Tackle
First off, I find Queerty’s and many of the white gay news media’s handling of this story to be very biased, in favor of the white gays. Number one, labeling El-Amin as the attacker when more than one eyewitness has stated that it was Snipes who walked over to El-Amin’s table and punched him, some saying using the N-word, after being called white f@ggots. Then Queerty sensationalize with, ” beaten over the head with a wooden chair, thrown to the ground, and repeatedly kicked by two men, shouting anti-gay slurs.”
I don’t think anyone seen this happing in this succession, and maybe anti-gay slurs were thrown, but from that video, I did not hear any: and I doubt if Queerty or any posters heard any as well. Yet it’s taken as fact. Funny how we can take as fact that the non-white ( El-Amin) shouted anti-white & anti-gay slurs, without hearing them for ourselves, and dismiss Snipes allged use of the N-word: and walking up and actually punching someone at El-Amin’s table.
Bob LaBlah
@Tackle: Personally I find it a bit odd that the video surveillance camera only captures the guy walking thru the door but does not cover any other angle in the restaurant. I have eaten there MANY a day when I lived in NYC because the food is not only good but it is the best bbq bargain in the city. They also have a staircase leading downstairs to another dining area that I have always felt was not only too steep but a lawsuit waiting to happen. I thought surely that area would have a camera on it. I guess not.
Sluggo2007
While nobody seems to know the whole story, El-Amin fled the state or so everyone thinks. Why did he flee? GUILTY!
Tackle
@Bauhaus: To your first post, we can turn this around and say that just because Snipes is gay, does not mean he cannot be r@cist, right? Remember there are two sides to this story, and witnesses, ( who were there) said that Snipes walked over, used a r@cial slur, and threw a punch. So if Snipes has a record himself, then maybe he’ll be headed to prison.
And to your second post: No! Witnesses said it was a verbal & PHYSICAL altercation started by Snipes. If that’s the case, then yes, the violent ones shouldn’t be roaming free.
Tackle
@gskorich: Your first post makes a lot of sense.
But on your second post, regarding a Jeri Curl, you show your ignorance. By your use of the word Jeri Curl, it seems you are assuming the guy is black. But how do you know he’s not Latino? Or regardless of race/ethnicity, if that’s his natural hair? And by the way, I know about hair, and I can tell you that that is NOT a Jeri Curl. He has natural hair type 3C, with conditioner and gel in it, so it will not dry and frizz out. And anyone who knows anything about hair, espically Afro hair, or Afro type hair, would know that you can take the kinkiest hair, depending on the lenght, and with deep conditioner, twist it and then use gel, you can get hair like that without the use of chemicals (Jeri Curl: etc) that will last about four days.
Tackle
@Realitycheck: It’s the same sh!t another day from one of the biggest r@cist here at Queerty. If I can remember, you were one of the main ones throwing r@ce into the mix, and now crying that’s what others are doing.
Well let me give it to you my way: I can say that, this Snipes is an extremely violent individual,and no matter what happened that night,Snipes did not have the right to walk up to Mr El-Amir’s table, utter the word n!gger, and THEN, land a punch. Snipes did not have a right to attack another human being the way he did. He’s filth.
Now see how STUPED,BIASED and ASSUMING that makes someone looks by writing something like this? It clearly shows someone who who has their own agenda, not fair or honest, and does not care for the truth. And how can you talk about all the r@cist comments coming from the gay black community, and leave out all the r@cist comments coming from the gay whith community. And considering that the gay white community is much larger than the gay black community, it most likely was even more r@cist comments. And kudos to all the white men who stood up and did/doing the right thing by not rushing to judgement and waiting to hear BOTH sides of the story, and not R-ist in anyway. The opposit of you.
Masc Pride
@Realitycheck: I said nothing about r@ce. Snipes just reminds me of some of the members here that like to start arguments, call people names and act all tough online; this is just what happens to those bitter queens when they try it in real life.
From the first time I read Snipes’ account I could tell he’s totally the type that likes to start stuff and then plays victim when he gets more than he expected. People don’t just pick up chairs and knock people out for no reason at all. I don’t know if r@cial slurs were used or not, but I do believe something definitely had to have been said/done to ignite such an intense reaction. Hopefully Mr. Snipes has learned his lesson about picking fights with strangers in NYC.
Tackle
@Paco: You bring up a good point. And yes there is a larger systemic issue festering in our community. You can see it with the Queerty artical: Portraying the white gays as victims, and the non white as the villians/perpetrators. Not really caring about the truth/facts. Many of the posters share the same sentiment. The message is loud and clear: White gays are more important then others.
On a side but connective note, when white gay porn stars die, Queerty is quick post about it. We had, not in order:
Arpad Miklos
Josh Weston
Adam Foust
Roman Ragazzi
Tanner Hayes
Camron Fox
Yet when black porn star Kumrun passed away on his birthday this past January, Queerty did not post anything about it. And ironically, Kumrun was in porn longer then any of the above mentioned. I’m not one to look up to porn prefomers or look down. I just think mentioning it was/is relivent, and shows a bit of a systemic issue in regards to race in the LGBTQ community…
SportGuy
@Captain Obvious: Exactly! That was my first suspicion when this story came to light! I need to know exactly what was said between all parties involved and if the was somehow started by the other party based on race, which most likely it was.
Masc Pride
@Tackle: That’s a bit ridiculous to automatically assume that was because of race. This site’s general makeup is mostly white. I’ve never even heard of Kumrun, but I’ve actually seen all the other ones you’ve mentioned. The reason this guy’s passing probably wasn’t on Queerty is because most of the writers and readers have probably never heard of him. Apparently Google hasn’t heard of him either because I just searched and all that comes up is some musician named Kumrun Raska.
Tackle
@Masc Pride: My bad: I spelled it wrong. It’s
“Kamrun” and he was well known. And I think it’s ridiculous to assume that it was not because of race. And yes this site is made up of mostly white. And so is the gay community. And this my point.
Glücklich
@Tackle:
You meant to reply to me.
It’s obvious I know nothing about twisting and gel-ing hair and that gap in my knowledge has weighed on me all my life. But your fascinating exposition on type and technique, Vidal Sassoon, has motivated me to finally go back to school for some post-doc hair training with the hope that someday, if I work really hard and study at the feet of the hair greats, I could join the other laureates of the Nobel Hair Prize: Jackie O, Dolly Parton, A Flock of Seagulls, Madame de Pompadour. So thank you for pointing me in the direction of my *true* calling. There is hope for me yet to salvage what remains of my wasted life.
Kangol
Latinxs come in all r@ces. There are bl@ck Latinxs (Zoe Saldana, Laz Alonso, etc.) and white Latinxs (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, etc.). A bl@ck person can be Latinx, African American, Nigerian-American etc. I think that’s the distinction you’re trying to make. And yes, Latinxs do sometimes sport Jheri curls, though the guy in the photo looks like he has naturally curly hair and is wearing it wet-curl style.
This incident is probably much more complex than initially reported, and sounds like it went from 0 to 100 too quickly. It probably wasn’t a anti-g@y h@te crime, and probably not even a r@cially-motivated h@te crime, though r@cist epithets may have been thrown around. It seems like an accident–bumping into a table and spilling a drinking–that turned into a violent fight. Whatever happened, there was no cause for El-Amin to lift that chair and bash the other guy, though. When he’s found, given his record, I don’t think the court will be lenient.
You’re right about Qu33rty still too focused on news having to do with white g@y men. The site still too infrequently covers news about people who aren’t white, whether they’re famous (gay NFL pioneer Michael Sam signing a two-year deal with a Canadian pro football team), US Senator C0ry Bxxker’s amazing pro-gay speech on the floor of the US Senate, the growing support in the US L@tinx population for same-sex marriage, etc. Kamrun’s death, the stunning new anthology Bl@ck Gay Genius, the queer Latinx publisher Lorenzo HerrerayLozana and his press, none of this will appear in Qu33rty because the people running the site, including any people of color, just don’t seem interested. There’s almost nothing on the site, EVER, about Asian American or Native American g@ys, as if they don’t exist at all.
Really bizarre and sad, especially since the Gay Liberation movement of the late 1960s and early 1970s that made sites like Qu33rty possible was multiracial, but typical of the mainstream (white) gay US community.
Masc Pride
@Tackle: Okay, I googled again and there is a site called thaxxxlist that is reporting his passing. The blog seems to be for gay men of color, an audience that’s probably much more familiar with this guy than the guys here would be, and this is my point. When I searched Josh Weston, Tanner Hayes and Adam Foust on thaxxxlist, all the searches returned with nothing.
I think you have a legit point about gay sites and the blatant bias on this story, especially since they all left out any details that describe Mr. Snipes as anything less than a victim who was just attacked for no reason at all. Unfortunately, there probably is a r@cial component to all the bias and manipulation. The Daily News story on the incident reported there was questionable behavior on both sides. However, you’re pushing bit hard on the porn example. BTW, Kumrun would’ve totally been a better porn name than Kamrun.
enfilmigult
@Tackle: “You can see it with the Queerty artical: Portraying the white gays as victims, and the non white as the villians/perpetrators.”
Not that you aren’t right in general, but this story seems like such a bad example to use. It’s a violent confrontation in which one party stuck around and talked to police and the press, while the other fled and spoke to no one. The only video evidence is of Party 1 being struck from behind by Party 2 while walking away. Accounts of how the confrontation started differ, but no accounts contain anything that would make the chair-striking justifiable (like, that Party 1 announced they were walking back to their table to get a gun). In the absence of any further information how else would you expect it to be portrayed re: victim/perpetrator? Honestly now.
Captain Obvious
@DarkZephyr: Grow up, no one was even talking to you. Not reading your childish insults anymore you massive infant. Not everyone’s opinion on a blog has to line up with yours and your hypocrisy is ridiculous.
lykeitiz
@Tackle: OK, first I Googled your incorrect spelling, Kumrun, and got nothing. Typically if someone is well known, you’ll still get a hit.
Then I checked your corrected spelling, Kamrun, and still only got one hit — the 9th selection down.
Sorry, but you gave a bad example. This person is not well known. Attractive yes, but not well known……at all.
Captain Obvious
@lykeitiz: One hit? https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=kamrun+porn
K.
Tackle
@Masc Pride: @lykeitiz: As far you guys saying that he was not that popular/ well known, how popular was Adam Foust, Tanner Hayes or Camron Fox? That didn’t stop Queerty from mentioning their deaths. And I feel that regardless of his popularity, he still would not have gotten the coverage/ news/ post/ of the above mentioned due to his ethnicity. You can be in denial all you want and pretend that Queerty and the gay press is equal to all, but that is just not the case. And BTW, I typed in ( Kamrun XXX) and he comes up first and foremost.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
Glad he’s been identified. He needs to be charged.
Masc Pride
@Tackle: Well duh, you had given us a misspelling for this person that was so significant that you repeatedly spelled his name wrong. I didn’t say he wasn’t popular. He could’ve been fairly popular in gay Black porn. I said the audience that would be more familiar with him is not this site’s target. A mildly popular Black performer’s passing may not be news on Queerty or The Sword, but it was news on a gay Black website that doesn’t seem to make mention of many White performers at all. You’re trying to make it seem like every guy that watches porn knows who this person was, but I’d never heard of him before today, and the same could be true for the writers. If so, how are they supposed to write about the passing of someone they didn’t even know existed? His passing HAS been acknowledged by the audience that is more familiar with him. You have it in your head that everything is a race issue.
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Masc Pride
@Tackle: Question: Do you read this thaxxxlist site?
Realitycheck
@Tackle:
You are making lots of assumptions, you don’t know me and
you don’t know what happened, what we know is what the video shows,
and lets make something 100% clear, that man El-Amir is beyond violent,
nothing excuses kicking people in the face and then smashing a
chair on their heads, by the way the video shows another man
taking a picture of the victims vs helping them, how about that?
No doubt I would be a R if I mention that man taking the picture vs helping was black, right??? That is your thinking.
Last El-Amir supposedly started the entire thing by calling Snipes a f-got,
you seem to have left that out of your reconstruction, if you want to put “he said she said” in your story, put them all.
And there are no Mr in this story there is Mr El-Amir a Mr doesn’t behave
like that for no reason, and there is no Mr Snipes, for the same reason,
but nothing excuses that kind of behavior and if you want to label me R-ist
for it, then you are the R-ist, take a good look in the mirror.
Make no mistake, El-Amir will be found, and in a court of law is all about the facts,
one must be able to prove things or it didn’t happen, and since there are plenty of witnesses it should be pretty easy, and since El-Amir run out on the police and out of state, we all know who the guilty party is, even El-Amir knows he is guilty, hence he is on the run from the law for his actions, good day to you.
Realitycheck
@Tackle:
Did you report to Queerty about Kamrun XXX death, don’t assume everybody knows everyone in the porn business, granted queerty is the one place that should know.
About reporting only about white, did you see last month the post about two young african american teenagers assaulted in their school by thirty guys because they were gay and one of them has been scarred for life with a screw driver? That was heart breaking.
It sounds to me that you are guilty of your own accusations, and to use El-Amir
to make your point, you do have a video showing his
extremely violent reaction, you cannot blame queerty or any poster for what ever
they feel against that one guy.
Tackle
@Masc Pride: @iykeitiz said that even when he typed in the ” correct” spelling, it was in the 9th section down. That’s why I wrote/advised to type in
Kamrun XXX it comes up front & center. And this is where I agree with @paco. It obviousl is a division in our community. And no I don’t think that everything is r@cial. But I believe a lot of things are. And regardless of how you may want to sugar coat it, I believe that Queerty as a whole just does not care.
Tackle
@Masc Pride: No. But since you mentioned it, I just discovered the Thaxxxlist. site.
Bauhaus
@Glücklich:
There’s no shame in being a beauty school drop out. None at all. While your honing those bobby pin curls, practice that mullet cut.
john
First and foremost everyone in NYC (In the gay/bi community) knew who he was!!! And did our best to report him. We all did…. and secondly he is not “Black” he is middle eastern and so is and was his boyfriend!!!! This wasn’t a case of a Black gay man going after a white couple!! The reason why this is important is because other people of color are very quick to distinguish themselves from “Black” people. So in return it should be pointed out when the identification is Incorrect!!!
The entire case is being reported incorrectly on this and all the other sites!!! That does not infer that any of his behavior wasn’t criminal and absolutely horrendous.!!!! But We should have all the facts before we comment!!
Tackle
@Realitycheck: No your the one making a lot of assumptions with the biggest being is that poor Mr Snipes is the innocent victim, without any blame whatsoever. Did you actually see anyone get kicked in the face?
Maybe it did happen, but the video does not show this. I call you a r@cist because your writings speak for themselves. All one has to do is go back to the post about this story on May 8,2015: and see how you were quick to label this guy black, and bring in and indict the whole black community for the actions of the people at this table.
And what your writings STILL show, is that you are NOT interested in the whole story or hearing all the facts. In you twisted mind, Snipes can do no wrong.
And no I did not report Kamrun’s death to Queerty, seeing that I just found out about it last week. But since Queerty is a gay blog/online LGBTQ news source: and in this day of social media, and I’m sure with hundreds/thousands of tips/gossip coming in, I find it difficult to believe they did not know about the death of a porn performer (regardless of color) who has been active in porn since the 90s.
Tackle
@john: You make some good points, and that’s why I referred to Mr El-Amir as non-white, and pointed out to a poster that the man with El-Amir: if that’s the boyfriend you are referring to, does not have a
Jeri/jheri curl, and may not even be Black.
Many of the above posters are celebrating now that the authorities have his name. People please! They knew and had his name from day one. I doubt seriously that he’s in hiding, where he cannot be found. With satellites and other high-tech gizmos, we can find terrorist thousands of miles away, and yet a bodyguard/security guard/ball room performer whose well known in the NY (gay/bi) community cannot be found? If you believe that, then I have some land on the moon to sell you.
To summarize: a mouthy gay guy and his BF got smashed over the head with a chair, in an altercation that mouthy gay guy started by spilling a drink, without apologizing, then being called a white f@g, mouthy gay goes over, uses the N-word and punches someone at the table where he spilled the drink…
Ok, something like that.
Lets face it, due to the nurture if this. Mutual combat, and the fact that no one was seriously harmed, this is just NOT a top priority for the NYPD or prosecutors. If it were, arrest would have already been made. And certainly with someone with an alleged record as El-Amir…
Masc Pride
@Tackle: No, Paco is referring to something more general. I’m specifically discussing this porn example you brought up. You have to be totally disregarding far more likely reasons in order to automatically determine it’s r@cial. I’m not trying to sugar coat anything, but I’ve seen you throw around similar accusations with no real proof many times before.
Bob LaBlah
People, is it really necessary to rub in the frustrations of each other? I mean really. Lets all just go back to being friends and drop the b/s that when it is all over nothing will be changed anyway. The poor guy did what he had to do in order to survive and now he’s gone. Is all of this back and forth cattiness really necessary?
Realitycheck
@Tackle:
It is irrelevant who started, what only matter is the violent reaction capture on video nothing excuses that behavior.
The only r-ist here is you, purposely call the assaulter (a career criminal )a
Mr while the victim according to you deserves to have chair as seen in the
video and smashed on his head.
BY the way any media outlet has e target market, and has to balance its
content to reflect that.
Last people treats you as you treat them, look in a mirror, if have the capacity to.