Remember how during the campaign, Barack Obama was assailed as a nearly untouchable politician whose lofty rhetoric could lift him away from even the thorniest of political liabilities (read: Rezko, Wright, et. al)? Well, those days are over. Obama warned that sometimes weâd disagree with his decisions, but I donât think he meant for all of us to disagree with him at once, which is exactly whatâs happened as mainstream America learns what gays and lesbians have known for some time: Rev. Rick Warren is a crazy homophobic nutjob.
Christopher Hitchens writes in a piece called âIf we must have an officiating priest, surely we can do better than this vulgar hucksterâ for Slate:
âAs Barack Obama is gradually learning, his job is to be the president of all Americans at all times. If he likes, he can oppose the idea of marriage for Americans who are homosexual. Thatâs a policy question on which people may and will disagree. However, the man he has chosen to deliver his inaugural invocation is a relentless clerical businessman who raises money on the proposition that certain Americansânon-Christians, the wrong kind of Christians, homosexuals, nonbelieversâare of less worth and littler virtue than his own lovely flock of redeemed and salvaged and paid-up donors.
This quite simply cannot stand.â
The Los Angeles Times opinion page says:
âBut on the signal issues of the religious right he is, as he himself has said, as orthodox as James Dobson.
And as inflammatory. Warren doesnât just oppose gay marriage, heâs compared it to incest and pedophilia. He doesnât just want to ban abortion, heâs compared women who terminate pregnancies to Nazis and the pro-choice position to Holocaust denial. (Hmmm ⌠If a fertilized egg is as precious as a born Jewish human being, does that mean a born Jewish human being is only as valuable as a fertilized egg?)
Speaking of Jews, Warren has publicly stated his belief that they will burn in hell, presumably along with everyone else who hasnât accepted his particular brand of Christianity (i.e., the vast majority of people in the world). And forget about evolution â the existence of homosexuals, heâs argued, disproves Darwin. And while we may not know how old the Earth is, the Saddleback website assures us that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.â
Barney Frank told CNNâs Late Edition:
How about we take this to the next level?
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âGiving that kind of mark of approval and honor to someone who has frankly spoken in ways I and many others have found personally very offensive, I thought that was a mistake for the president-elect to doâ
Even Mary Mitchell, the Chicago Sun Times correspondent who seems to know what Obamaâs doing before he does, finds the decision to have Warren officiate âinsultingâ:
âLet me first say, I read Warrenâs A Purpose Driven Life and found it full of wisdom that has helped me to deal with my own personal challenges.
That being said, I, too, am stunned by Obamaâs decision.
Frankly, itâs insulting.
How do you put a civil rights icon like the Rev. Joseph Lowery at the tail end of an event that honors the nationâs election of its first African-American president?
The only reason I can think of for Obama to give Warren such an honor is that he is already thinking about re-election.â
And The Atlanticâs Ta-Nehisi Coates, who never liked Obama in the first place, thinks that whether Obama is being hypocritical is beside the point, arguing:
âThe diplomatic part is this: Barack is the president of the United States. He has all sorts of people pressuring them. His job is to respond to those pressures in such a way as to not break the consensus he needs to get things done, and to expand the Democratic brand in the American mind. So when people make the pragmatic arguments, itâs not that I think theyâre wrong. They are, in fact, totally right.
But Obamaâs job, isnât my job. I just donât think itâs my role to make him as comfortable as possible. This isnât about betraying progressives, it isnât about lefties being âdepressed,â it isnât about a Democratic civil war, and it doesnât need to be squished into a seven minute segment on Hardball. Letâs be honest hereâBarack Obama has, so far, been exactly what we expected. Exactly. Let us acknowledge that. But letâs not use that as an excuse to not our job, which is as I see it, to say, âMr. President. Now, do more.â
Amen.
chandler in lasvegas
What brilliant strategy. Shit all over the LGBT community. Show other people that you will not buckle down to their demands and then give them everything.
Yeah.
Right.
M&M
I want to see gay Obama supporterââŹâ˘s faces now!!!!!
Hopefully they won’t attend to inauguration to applause freak rev.
Paul
Since I never had any faith in Obama to begin with, there’s nothing this a-hole could do to disappoint me. I stayed away from the well of Kool-Aid.
Perhaps if more people had done the same we wouldn’t have ended up with this two-faced nobody for a President.
Kevin
Rick Warren clearly hates gays & Jews! How about blacks?
Soon he will call them Negros! Can’t wait to hear it! That man will ruin himself soon anyway. For now on Obama is nothing but a loser for me.
scott
Hopefully, he will do better by us and others as his term progresses. And that this is one of his many mistakes that happens to everyone.
I wanted Hillary, and that’s not saying she wouldn’t make this same mistake. But I voted Obama because c’mon. Obama or Palin?
We have Obama now. Let’s get behind him and criticize him constructively when he does wrong.
FNT
After this disaster I would rather to have Palin. Obama gave a nut job the highest honor. He didn’t make a mistake. He did this deliberately. Anti gay bigot! Plus anti Jew bigot!
As gay Jew I feel insulted.
rickroberts
I told you so, I told you so, I told you so a million times!
RichardR
Okay, okay, he’s being inclusive, right?
I got four words for you:
Alito
Roberts
Thomas
Scalia.
Is he gonna be “inclusive” when he names Supreme Court Justices?
Michael W.
Obama is a bigot!
BIGOTTTTTTT!!!
START THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS NOW!
Mark In Indiana
No impeachment…I want everyone who called me a racist for questioning BO’s credentials during the primaries and the election to see what the hell their starry eyes brought us.
I mean, damn, I like you guys but you bought the cow before it even started giving milk.
AND ONE MORE TIME, for the good times–VOTE GREEN…YOU HAD A CHOICE…VOTE GREEN….YOU HAD A CHOICE…VOTE GREEN….YOU HAD A CHOICE
(that’s my banner ad…)
Michael W.
@Mark In Indiana: But if we impeach Nobama, Biden, Pelosi and Robert Byrd, then Hillary will become president and we can finally have full rights after she blazes the trail for gay marriage.
rick
“AND ONE MORE TIME, for the good timesââŹâVOTE GREENââŹÂŚYOU HAD A CHOICEââŹÂŚVOTE GREENââŹÂŚ.YOU HAD A CHOICEââŹÂŚVOTE GREENââŹÂŚ.YOU HAD A CHOICE”
If this is an indication of things to come, than I just might vote green in 4 years.
myrios123
Obama has become where the “buck” stops so it’s natural to dislike a decision that to our community seems to send a message of exclusion. I do not recant my vote based on this choice and yet it does make me wonder if his “change” we can believe in… isn’t just more promises we can’t count on.
(I don’t like Rev. Warren’s views and I think Obama could have picked someone less well-known and created an advocate, a mender, not a shiny-new-shepherd-clothes-wearing-wolf-waiting-at-the-door)
The jury is still out for me. No one ever built a reputation on what he said he was going to do. Them – 1 us – 0
Mark In Indiana
LOL, I loved Hillary, still do, always have (from the moment she said she wasn’t going to sit home baking cookies, I’ll admit it, I’m that shallow)…
but I’m so turned off to the Democrats that I just want this crap over.
But I am serious about all gay men and women voting green. We could be the reason the party attracts the funding and attention it needs to grow. Here’s their latest email message under the heading Equality for Everybody?:
If President-elect Barack Obama calls himself a “fierce advocate for equality” for gay people, why has he invited Rev. Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at Barack Obama’s inauguration?…
The Green Party remains the option for those who believe that gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people deserve all the rights, including marriage and the ability to raise a family that all other Americans enjoy. Support for such rights is enshrined in the Green Party’s national platform — unlike the Democratic and Republican parties.
Sigh, I love those guys. I don’t agree with every single GP stand (I’m way more pro-Israel than they are), but I respect their firm adherence to human rights. They don’t bend over for the Warrens of the world.
ksu499
Ah, yes. Vote Green and get the loony-tune Cynthia McKinney. What fun that would be. Maybe she’ll toss in her equally loony-tune pop for free. Even more entertainment value for your vote.
Morning in Boston
Seriously,
You people are as bad a the right wing.. Hillary Clinton is only about Hillary not about anybody but, GWBush is about GWBush no difference not anybody but him.. no difference. ZERO.. don’t be so Naive
Barak Obama is different, you can learn a lesson about being inclusive and making all of us a part of the process. You have been excluded from the process because of your beliefs, you want to do that to Rick Warren or the millions of other Americans because of there? Don’t you think that prop 8 will be overturned? That Buffoon of a governor of California even has said the vote wasn’t’ acceptable. I elected this man as President, I trust his judgment.
Boys and Girls, How many of you volunteer your time to local causes such as homelessness? Elderly issues? Educations? Support networks for HIV+? Well Rev Warren has done all of that and so maybe its time for you to get off your butt, and do it a bit better like we know we can; For lack of a better term “out Christian the christian” ..
Rock
Hey Barack, are you gonna suck off that fat pig after the swearing-in?
rickroberts
@Mark In Indiana: Mark, you’re not the only one called a racist for supporting Hillary or not supporting BO. It’s not racist to point out that BO get cut way too much slack just because of the color of his skin. The people on the forum who are cutting him slack now on this issue (like Morning in Boston) are doing so because of the color of his skin. I guarantee it. If it were Hillary doing this to us instead of The One, their opinion would be different.
Mark In Indiana
If you’re referring to her Capitol Hill police incident, I think there were two legitimate sides to that story. As far as her positions, this encapsulation from Wikipedia:
n the 1992 election, McKinney was elected in the newly re-created 11th District,[2] and was re-elected in 1994. When her district was redrawn and renumbered due to the Supreme Court of the United States ruling in Miller v. Johnson,[3][1][4] McKinney was easily elected from the new 4th District in the 1996 election, and was re-elected twice without substantive opposition.
McKinney was defeated by Denise Majette in the 2002 Democratic primary, in part due to Republican crossover voting in Georgia’s open primary election, which permits anyone from any party to vote in any party primary,[5] and in part due to her “controversial profile, which included a suggestion that [George W.] Bush knew in advance of the September 11 attacks.”[5]
After her 2002 loss, McKinney traveled and gave speeches, and served as a Commissioner in The Citizens’ Commission on 9-11. On October 26, 2004, she was among 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those who were killed on 9/11 who signed the 9/11 Truth Movement statement, calling for new investigations of what they perceived as unexplained aspects of the 9/11 events.[6] McKinney was re-elected to the House in November 2004, following her successor’s run for Senate. In Congress, she advocated unsealing records pertaining to the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., and an investigation into the murder of Tupac Shakur and continued to criticize the Bush Administration over the 9/11 attacks. She supported anti-war legislation and introduced articles of impeachment against President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
She was defeated by Hank Johnson in the 2006 Democratic primary,[7] after finding herself in the national spotlight again over the March 29, 2006 Capitol Hill Police Incident, where she was involved in a confrontation with a Capitol Hill Police officer who did not recognize her as a member of congress. She left the Democratic Party in September 2007.[8]
Members of the United States Green Party had attempted to recruit McKinney for their ticket in both 2000 and 2004. She eventually ran as the Green Party nominee in the 2008 presidential election.[9] [10]
Aside from the Shakur murder (anyone’s murderer should be caught, not especially his), I agree with her. I’d feel as if we were making progress with the unsealing of a LOT of records that Bush sealed–his own papers, his archives, his father’s, the 911 commission’s documents (All of them).
Sorry to tell you, but I fully believe Bush had a lot of prior knowledge about 9-11; I don’t know whether he knew the exact date and time, but every bit of evidence I’ve seen indicates the intelligence mechanisms of this country were on alert and were deliberately ignored, as were the MOs of air defense units on that day….it took FOREVER to scramble any jets, even when we knew the planes were hijacked.
I don’t like pop, but I’d guzzle her style “looney-tune” soda over status quo kool aid, or milk with chocolate jesus powder any old day.
DCDavis769
President-elect Obama is going to do what he always said he would do, which is govern from the center and try his hardest to be inclusive of everyone. Even that in itself is a change from Bush policies. If wants to get things done that will benefit all of us, he cannot demonize the Right as we do, and he has to find common ground with people who did not support his campaign.
Rick Warren is one of the most popular pastors in the United States, and, even though he is anti-gay, his being chosen as pastor for the invocation is not (I don’t believe) a sign of Barack Obama’s future policies toward GLBT people.
Also, it’s not like he chose James Dobson. Then I would be worried about our role in the upcoming administration and its policies.
DCDavis769
@FNT: Palin would be a nut job getting the highest office in the nation. Sarah Palin and John McCain would not even view us as citizens, much less as persons deserving equal rights.
ksu499
Oh, Cynthia McKinney was a looney-tune way before the Capitol police incident. I had the misfortune of having her for my Congresscritter for a decade. Talk about a do-nothing. All she is good for is grabbing headlines. The Republican cross-over is a myth pushed by the McKinney camp. Majette’s margin over McKinney in 2002 was greater than the number of ballots cast in the 2000 Republican Congressional primary less the number of ballots cast in the 2002 Republican Congressional primary. Basically, when presented with a viable Democratic candidate other than McKinney in the primary, the Democratic voters of central DeKalb choose her, leaving McKinney with only the heavily minority south DeKalb in her camp, and they turned out in lower numbers than in previous elections.
kurt
I love Barack.
Notice Rev. Lowery isn’t pulling out. Will he be the next to be attacked?
Russ
Barack Obama has shown the people of this country that he is a man of high intellect, driven to succeed, and one who does not make decisions lightly. So, based on what we know about Obama, I think it’s safe to say that he knew exactly what he was doing with his selection of Rick Warren. And since we know Obama is smart, and someone who does not act without first thinking things through, it is now 100% safe to accept that Obama is a bigot. 100% safe to accept Obama is anti-gay. There’s no other way to view this. So gay people take note. Obama is not your friend and never will be. Obama’s selection of Warren may make the evangelicals and other people of extreme religious viewpoints happy, the same 33% who still approve of George W. Bush. The close to 70% of us who put Obama in office with our money and our votes, we were just given the finger. And Obama doesn’t care. He’s made his decision (a bad one) and he’s going to stick with it. He’s not even in office yet, and he’s already acting like George W. Bush with his heels dug. Barack Obama = the black George W. Bush. God help this country.
bobito
Hillary/McCain/Palin would have made a better choice? Are you guys kidding me? Grampy did nothing BUT court the religious wingnut extremists throughout their whole campaign. And Sarah Palin is a wingnut extremist herself. Until we establish an electoral process that allows more than Side A or Side B to get elected, a vote for the Green Party isn’t going to go very far. You could say you’re sending a message to the democrats along the lines of: give us a goddamn candidate who represents all of us, or we’ll vote green and you’ll lose the election. Eventually, after you’ve lost enough elections to the shittiest of shit republicans, you will get the message…
Deja vu much, anyone? How much fun has the Bush presidency been for us these past 8 years? For me, it felt like a prison sentence for a crime I didn’t commit – you could say I’m one of the lucky ones, when you look at the thousands of people who didn’t survive his presidency at all. How much worse do things have to get before the electoral process is revised? And will there be a country left to govern by the time our great Green party gets their time?
Sorry, guys, the Obama Presidency is indeed the “change we can believe in”, because for the GLBT community, there ain’t gonna be a hell of alot of change – and that, sadly, is all too believable.
FNT
Before he got the office he lost so many votes. I can not wait to see his day one. He is a calculated bigot. He would sell anyone for more vote. Wait & see!
Leland Frances
The discussion should NOT center on what would certainly be worse, in the long run, had McShame been elected.
That’s like a battered woman saying, “Sure, my husband keeps beating me but AT LEAST he wouldn’t KILL me.”
Obama is whom we’re engaged to now, and he’s started to beat the crap out of us before “Here Comes the Barry” even starts playing. AND is back to smile fucking us again how HE knows better. Plantation much?
“Donnie McClurkin” ring a bell with anyone? The EXACT same scenario. Obama thinks he needs a homohating, gay demonizing bigot to advance himself. That move actually made totally self-serving sense. There were certainly more visible nongay black voters in the South than visible gay ones of whatever color.
So he invites the guy, then wraps his excuses in meaningless words when gay hell breaks lose. I recall not a single significant gay paper, commentator, or blog not going nuclear in their rage. Even the National Black Justice Coalition. Even black bloganista Pam of Pam’s Houseblend.
But gay hell turned into nothing more than a gay hissy fit, and, within days they were all blowing the steam horn on the Obama Love Train. Now, they COULD have made their orgasmic endorsements a little less oozing, a little more conditional, e.g., “Senator, we know McCain would be worse, but YOU are on probation. Fuck us over again and we WILL do all we can to hurt you politically. We’ve come too far to be pushed back to Stepin’ Fetchits now.”
We interrupt this rant for a history lesson. After MIRROR IMAGE excitement over Bill Clinton’s campaign and election, “the most gay positive President EVER!”, came the crash and burn of DADT. [At least Clinton waited until AFTER he was sworn in to fail us, and, from his perspective, he had no choice, whereas we were caught bent over and smiling, never imagining we have to beg, “DON’T ASK Rick Warren.” Obama had no Congress insisting on making Warren a law; no Pentagon brass threatening mutiny. Obama pulled Warren out of his ass full grown.]
But, I digress. At various points leading up to the actual signing of DADT [e.g., at one point, gay/straight segregated military units were actually considered!], there were huge hissy fits, but the most potentially powerful threat was that gays would stop donating to the DNC. [This move was led by Fred Hochberg who ended up in Clinton’s administration and is now one of Obama’s allegedly magnifident seven gay advisors.]
Obviously, they failed to deliver or their threat. Because a dim Dem in Congress created DADT, got it passed, and many of the same people who proclaimed Obama the New Messiah [despite the MANY warning signs] backed it up with the negative argument of insisting that Hillary would be just like her husbandââŹâthe last New Messiah.
All of that is a long way of saying that we have to ESCALATE our protests. Demand a refund from Obama, Inc., and the DNC. We won’t get it, but we WILL get their attention, and create some fears about trying to win in 2010 and 2012 without millions of gay dollars.
And Amy Impact should be organizing a massive anti Warren demonstration during the inaugural…not another pansyass circle jerk, with or without candles.
Rami
If he doesn’t fix this HUGE mistake. There won’t be second term for him. After 4 years he will go back of the bus. So maybe he can understand how gay people feel.
SkippyFlipjack
@FNT: You’d rather have Palin as VP than have Warren give the invocation? I presume that your sense of perspective will be restored the day after the inauguration, when Warren’s words will be a thing of the past but Palin would still be busy making a mess of things.
dalea
America Blog is reporting that every lesbian and gay under consideration for cabinet positions in the Obama administration was rejected or passed over. Further reports that there are no openly lesbian or gay staffers on the White House team. Do we get apologies for the attacks on Hillary and her supporters that called us ‘racist’?
damien
Personally, I’m going to wait until I cast my judgement about Obama’s Presidency since he hasn’t even begun it yet. True, the Warren debacle is pretty screwed up, but if Obama can keep us from going further into a recession, advance human civil rights (i.e. gay rights) and take control of the Iraq situation, then I won’t care who spoke at his Inauguration.
Until then, I’ll just wait and see… no matter how pissed I am at Warren.
Chris
Mark — you just want Cynthia McKinney to punch you –c’mom admit!
Rami
What Iraq! This man cannot even pick a proper rev.
We are doomed!!!!
FNT
@SkippyFlipjack:
At least with Palin you know what you expect. Obama smiles at your face & fuck you from your behind! Honestly The first change brought to our plate nut case Warren. More to come!!!! Great Start!
Adam
I’m gay, I don’t hate myself, and I still love Barack. Whaddya know?
Kid A
This is certainly disappointing, but you people need some perspective, bad. “Impeachment proceedings”? Warren’s invocation has nothing to do with policy. Haven’t we all been saying that it doesn’t matter if we’re liked, as long as we get our rights? Write or call Obama, tell him in policy terms what we expect from him. Be productive. He needs to know on day one what the “gay mandate” is. At this rate, he’ll only be thinking, “Damn, better not choose a Warren again.”
Rigato
I think it would be very appropriate to protest Obama’s choice of Warren speaking the invocation. It would show him that NO, FUCK NO we are NOT going to go to the back of the bus like good little gays.
I think our black president needs a kick in the pants to remember how damn hard his race had to work just to drink at public fountains. Then maybe he’ll sympathize.
Dawster
i’m sorry… can someone please direct me to where Obama said he was a pro-gay anti-Christian right presidential candidate??
please.
i’m trying to understand where all this anger comes from. I heard that he would HELP gays… but i never heard that he was EXCLUSIVELY gay. someone please tell me where he vowed to give up the right side of his candidacy….
north_star2224
OMG! Everyone hates Obama now. Why, if Hitchens, Coates, and two people from the LA Times and Chicago Times think this, why everyone must think this way…
And then there’s Barney Frank who was public enemy#1 for not the non-trans inclusive ENDA. But now he represents everyone.
Please. 95% of the public doesn’t give a shit about Warren. Melissa Etheridge is having him over for dinner.
BTW, does anyone have a solution? Disinvite Warren? Why bother? You’ll all just criticize that anyway.
Oh, and one more thing about Mary Mitchell. In the black church, the big guy ALWAYS goes last. He’s the finish. I’m surprised a sistah from Chicago doesn’t know that.
bobito
Yes, NorthStar, I agree that giving the final word to Joseph Lowery is not a bad thing at all. But the uproar over the Rick Warren invitation is absolutely justified. Warren does NOT represent an “opposing viewpoint” that needs to be “included” in any “dialog” about civil rights of ANY minority, any more than a the viewpoints of Neonazi organizations or white supremacist groups need to be included. This is not about a point of view, it is about bigotry. Warren has loudly and frequently put forth his bigotry in public. By “including him in the dialog”, President-elect Obama is saying that plain-and-simple bigotry is in fact, an opposing point of view that needs to be taken into account in the decision-making process. And this is NOT good.
Dawster
i’m sorry Bobito, but i disagree. i don’t think anyone should be excluded from any dialog. i think the view he represents absolutely needs to be included. how else can we be ‘the bigger man’ and how else can we change it?
yes, he is a bigot. we can’t get rid of bigots by exclusion no more than the Christian right can get rid of gays by exclusion. plus, he’s not really “included” in anything as Obama’s cabinet has been chosen… so he’s just going to pray… AND THAT’S IT.
just because he’s included in anything (and let’s assume it’s some ‘decision making process), doesn’t mean his views will be followed.
bobito
Funny, Dawster, I don’t see any Neonazis or white supremacists invited to the dialog. Referring to bigotry as an opposing view imparts a respect to simple, ignorant prejudice that is completely inappropriate. It is not a view, it’s a refusal to see, acknowledge and deal with reality.
The Realist
@DCDavis769:
It is a sign that he is willing to compromise, alright. He is willing to compromise OUR rights in order to appease an anti-gay bigot. And before you say ” he has to do this in order to get re-elected; he ain’t even in office yet and he’s running for re-election?
I’ll be damned if im gonna be put off another four years after fighting for 25 years to get to this point. No F-ing way. Hold his feet to the fire on this, one people. The gay community’s vote was the difference between a decisive victory and a recount. Don’t let him forget it.
Raymond Sawyersmith
Hey, the Obama think tank told him if he did this, it would take a few days to the weekend dump, and then a couple of days and exit Chicago and hello Hawaii…..and no ROD BLAGOJEVICH 24/7
Thomas Mc
Harvey Fierstein called Obama coward:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-fierstein/throw-another-faggot-on-t_b_153155.html?view=print
I think he has a point, either Obama is a bigot too, or he is a coward. There is no third option.
Sexiest. President. Ever.
Um, the Obama love-fest has just begun with me. HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE SHIRTLESS PICTURES? Omfg. Maybe it’s a sign – he’s trying to fuck with our heads. He’s posing shirtless for the gays, to get us liking him and back on his side. Its working. More shirtlessness please, Mr. President-Elect.
Mark
Here’s the deal. I will still support Obama. After the last 8 years of total incompetence, I could care less that Warren was Obama’s first Big Mistake. One thing’s for sure. Obama will not make this sort of mistake again.
So, I will take LONG VIEW of Obama. His past proves he’s a thinker. His campaign was nearly flawless and his take on issues is far better than Bush could muster on his very best days.
Obama, on the other hand, has proven that he’s just another straight man with the Warren decision.
So, altho Warren personally despises my marriage to my husband, I don’t really give a sh*t about the man. I already know he is a charlatan, that the core of his personality is of a man who is desperately hollow inside – witness his need for a total external locus of control – and that the man is hiding the core of his being as much as he possibly can from the public. He is hiding behind his favorite bedtime story: Jesus.
Warren doesn’t scare me one bit. In fact, I PITY the man. He has found a national avenue to prove to me that he is a nobody. Thank you Mr. Obama for allowing this man to rise to the top of the sh*tpile of other worthless Christian Charlatans (ââ¢) so that I may see the man for who he is. As far as I’m concerned Mr. Warren – despite his nationally acclaimed book – has now gained a wider audience than before and has been exposed for the truly malevolent person he actually and DEEPLY is.
Raymond
Rick Warren’s AIDS concern is for subsaharan Africans who are “heterosexual” and are” victims of the crisis, and not sinners receiving their just reward.”
Rick Warren is a homophobe and a man who should not represent the Christian clergy on the invocation podium.
Jude
Christophobes. What scares you so about the name of Jesus Christ? Is it your shame? Your surety to burn in His presence as your flesh burns for one another? Repent and pray for forgiveness. Time of reckoning is nigh.
Jake the Snake
Who thought Obama a friend? Maybe a hatred for George Bush and Obama’s abs bewitched your vote? Christ is not a Democrat or Republican. So Christians were not for McCain anymore or less than Obama. Practicing Christians (5% of populace) are far more likely to be accepting of the plague of homesexuality that infects you than the 70% of Americans that call themselves Christian and could not name three books of the Bible. A black hetero secular male is 3X more likely to disdain homesexuality as a secular white male. And Obama (a practicing Christian) was a black male whom attended church far more regularly than McCain. You let the praise by Geffen and Hollywood cloud your senses. Your Gaydar was off.
Candy Jack
Hey Jude. I’m not a Christophobe. I love Jesus and pray daily that I will be relieved of my plague of homesexuality. I bite my lip when I see the young altar boys toying with my senses and later I strap myself with a cutting lash until the blood trickles through the silk of my pajamas. I pray for all of my brothers and sisters of immorality. We are all children of God and wish to be well. Pray for us and we will pray for you.
The Realist
Yeah No. 46. I like those shirtless pics too. I can forgive him on that alone. I have a great blow-up poster of the Hawaii shirtless shot I purchased from [email protected]. It will be hotter than the Farrah posters I used to masturbate to when I was a boy and knew no better.
Damien
Thanks Candy Jack. Please pray for me to hun. Hey Realist and Mark, I have a long view of Obama too (tsk tsk) after those shirtless shots. As long as he is long and shirtless, he’s my guy and will get my full and waiting support. đ
Bobito
FNT, if Obama is a bigot, then I got no spigot, and FNT, believe me, I got one long looking spigot. Obama is definately our man, did you not see the shirt shots? They were a little message to us Packer and Trojan fans that he is for us in a big beautiful black and manly way. Hillary was bulldyke with a worn out strap on. She was intent on revenge and hated the lot of us because we are younger and more beautiful than she. And McCain, could you imagine him in a Speedo. No, Obama is our cool dark man all the way. He will come through. Maybe not publicly or in any tangible way, be he likes us just the same. Chow!
Adam
Bobito you are sooo Butch or is that Bush. Hillary was the way and I told you all the same before. It matters not what Obama looks like. This is serious stuff and is not to be taken lightly. I say that we boycott the Obama shirtless poster and find a good-standing Washington type in the closest and open his door to the American Gay way and support him for Supreme Court Justice. No ugly Barney Frank type. I’m talking about a good-looking, intellectual tyoe with some pent up demand for the hard one that will burst out onto the political scene and drive our point home. Hillary is a dyke and no ones going to vote in a lesbian dyke on purpose.
RLS
@Adam: No ugly Barney Frank type? That is the problem. Gay boys are always looking for a spokesperson for the cause. I’ve heard this time and time again, that gays are looking for their own MLK, but of course he has to be good-looking, tall, (most likely white), etc. etc. That’s why nothing will ever change. Don’t wait for people to fight your battles, and if you wait for some tall, athletic, idealized figurehead, you’re going to be waiting for a very long time. YOU are the change YOU are waiting for. DO something.
“A black hetero secular male is 3X more likely to disdain homesexuality as a secular white male. And Obama (a practicing Christian) was a black male whom attended church far more regularly than McCain.”
So, Jake, do you have any sources for these statistics you’re pulling out of your ass?