At least one person isn’t pleased about Guy Benson, the Fox News contributor and political editor of the right-wing news site Townhall.com who came out of his log cabin closet last week.
In a new op-ed published on AFA’s blog, Bryan Fischer is calling for Benson to be fired from his jobs and blacklisted from the conservative moment for being a “practicing homosexual” and “an oxymoron.”
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“He seems dedicated to do his part to … turn the GOP into a sodomy-promoting political machine,” Fischer writes.
And for this, he must be disposed of.
“Benson must be replaced,” Fischer continues. “His values on homosexuality are not Christian, family-themed, or conservative.”
Fischer admits that Benson “seems like a particularly nice and friendly individual,” but people shouldn’t be fooled. The 30-year-old political pundit practices “non-normative sexual expression” and, therefore, is not to be trusted.
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True conservative values, Fischer believes, “do not include celebrating, endorsing and promoting unnatural sexual expression.”
Fischer believes Benson and people like him ought to find a new label for themselves, something other than “conservative.”
“Some such individuals call themselves ‘homocons’,” he suggests. “Perhaps ‘gayservatives’ or ‘gaytarians’ or some other such concoction will suffice. Just don’t call them ‘conservatives,’ for that most certainly is not what they are.”
Kieran
Exactly why Guy Benson should be welcomed and celebrated for coming out on Fox News. If he is annoying homophobic wingnuts like Fischer he is obviously doing something right. Ironic that rabid Haters like Bryan Fischer and Atticus Bennett both agree that a gay man shouldn’t be allowed to be both gay and conservative. I say it isn’t your decision to make.
wagnerwallace
I commend Guy Benson. It’s brave to come out as a gay Republican, and not feel like you have to follow the herd and go against everything else you believe in just because you’re gay and want to get married. He has to deal with bigotry, crazies, and close mindedness from both liberals and conservatives. It’s good to see a strong, free thinking gay man out in the public. #TeamGuyBenson
Giancarlo85
This is exactly why Guy Benson should open his eyes and realize that the republican party is a machine of hatred and extremism. You can’t fix a sinking ship. Annoying homophobic wingnuts like Fischer represent the republican party on the whole.
Nobody said gay men shouldn’t allowed to be both gay and conservative, but they should realize both are contradictions.
@wagnerwallace: How are “liberals” closed minded? How can you even say half of this crap?
“It’s good to see a strong, free thinking gay man out in the public.”
So “free thinking” is associated with being conservative?
You right wing gays are acting ridiculous.
If Benson was strong and free thinking he would realize he is wrong politically. I accept benson as a gay man, but I do not accept his political views.
Giancarlo85
@Kieran: Go on… sling shit to posters on here making comparisons to Bryan Fischer you can’t possibly support.
On the other hand, Benson should realize he has nothing to be proud about after seeing what Fischer and the massive majority of the republican party is all about. Time for the guy to open his eyes.
I at one point was a libertarian too. I ditched those lies, and become a green. I’m not following anyone but my own heart and mind.
Bauhaus
Homocon.
Gaytarian.
What say you, wingers?
tricky ricky
love the comments supporting benson. using a nazi analogy like bryan fischer and his ilk so love to do, he’s no better than a nazi collaborator who happens to be jewish. it’s the same difference.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: You’re very closed-minded. You think that just because you hate a particular idea, or someones opinion, that everyone else should too and that they’re automatically “wrong”. That’s what closed-minded means and that is what you do.
And “free thinking” is actually associated with an individual whose opinions are formed on the basis of an understanding and rejection of established belief. So how is Guy Benson not a free thinker? He’s clearly going against the grain and standing up for what he believes in. He’s not even against gay rights and you guys still loathe him. I wouldnt consider you, with your herd mentality, a free thinker…
I’m ridiculous? I really wish you’d learn to better articulate yourself without constantly having to resort to name calling. But I guess we can blame that on your liberal education 😉
BJ McFrisky
Guy Benson is a class act who understands that being gay does not automatically make you a card-carrying liberal required to defend Islam and dance at pride parades.
Bryan Fischer is a moron who understands nothing outside his church teachings.
@Kieran:
@wagnerwallace:
@tricky ricky:
Excellent points, all.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You are incorrect. The only close minded one here is you. Right wingers are naturally closed minded. And there are correct views and incorrect ones. You seem to be suffering under some kind of delusion.
And your idea of free thinking is laughable. Guy Benson formed his ideas on the backs of others. He didn’t come up with those beliefs on his own. He basically subscribes to 80% of what the Republican party says. How is he a free thinker? Are you this delusional? I am the real thinker because I am not associated with either major political party and came up with my beliefs on the basis of what is correct.
What herd mentality? Do you suffer from mental problems? How am I subscribing to herd mentality when I am not even part of any political party? You just spout off crap.
You constantly insult and belittle people here, while engaging in passive aggressive behavior. My “liberal” education makes me more well informed about the issues. You subscribe to delusions. I wonder why conservatives like you constantly attack the education of others. Perhaps it has to do with you being uneducated and ignorant.
Giancarlo85
@BJ McFrisky: Oh look it is the parrot… Parroting what others say while defending a mindless drone like Benson. Benson isn’t a hero and he isn’t brave. If he was brave, he wouldn’t be a conservative.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: lol okay. We’re going to agree to disagree. The end.
onthemark
Poor little homocon! I figured he’d get this kind of reaction from his “own” side.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: Keep on defending right wing drones like Benson. Doesn’t seem to be accomplishing much. Benson hasn’t had an independent thoughts in years… Just read his garbage book. He repeats what he has been told.
Why do people follow those who hate them so much? Self depreciating.
Xzamilio
@Kieran: Bull. I don’t recall Atticus Bennett ever saying one couldn’t be gay and a conservative… just why on earth one would want to? Hell, Benson’s sound bites and blurbs were indicative of a man who realizes that gay rights aren’t a conservative point and that his “focal point” are on other things that conservatives have been dropping the ball on: Obamacare, minimum wages, Iran, Syria… you know, “real” issues they don’t have a plan for. Spare me, dude… Benson will denigrate the left wing “militant gays” and then reap the benefits of it when gay marriage is legalized nationwide.
Why do you think he downplays being gay? Don’t want to piss off his fellow conservatives by “shoving it down their throat.”
Xzamilio
And say what you want about that right wing fundie nut job Fischer, but he’s basically an uglier more blunt face to a sentiment a high number of evangelicals share. But in Benson’s defense, a lot of these SJW liberals are true pains in the ass that cannot tolerate gay men who don’t act a certain way, say this, or talk this certain way… and don’t even try telling an off-color joke because those asswipes freak the fuck out.
Xzamilio
@BJ McFrisky: “Guy Benson is a class act who understands that being gay does not automatically make you a card-carrying liberal required to defend Islam and dance at pride parades.”
Seriously, what do you represent? What does your movement represent? Traditional values? Define those. Conservative values? Define those. I don’t think you and I have had too bad of interactions, so I’m trying to come at this without being too vitriolic, because in some instances I have agreed with you, especially regarding the progressive left’s piss poor handling of Islamic extremism and even trying to rationalize the assholes in Garland, TX and the Draw Muhammad contest — it’s one of the rare times I have defended a moron like Pamela Geller — but you don’t get to accuse liberals of being these totalitarian dictators when every hurdled we’ve faced recently in regards to gay rights has stemmed from your movement. Conservatives have far and wide taken the title of being anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-affordable healthcare, and anti-anything not Christian. So what do you represent that makes conservatives better than liberals?
Because I have my issues with some of the more aggressive liberals in the bunch that want to stomp all over free speech, and trash Christians while defending Muslims as if any criticism is “Islamophobic.” What are your values?
Giancarlo85
The left does not defend Islamic extremism. The right needs Islamic extremism so they their defense contractors can build more weapons of war. The whole Iraq war which was started by conservatives created ISIL.
What leftists are defending Islamist extremists? Now, I am fine with one having their religion, but I do not approve of extremism with regards to Christianity or Islam.
I wish people would not slap liberal on all leftists. It’s nonsense. Liberal parties in Europe are actually right wing. Get out of that one dimensional thought process.
Giancarlo85
Left wing groups were some of the first and most active in condemning the terrorism in France. Right wingers need terrorism to exist so they can promote fear, weapons and war.
Why does terrorism exist? Look at Nigeria. They neglected wide portions of the country and that created extreme poverty. Merely launching rockets and killing thousands won’t solve terrorism.
Avery Alvarez
Oh, right wingers and their complete failure to understand the basics of debate.
@Kieran: @wagnerwallace: @BJ McFrisky: I know when you guys write on the right wing blogosphere they tell you your arguments are clever, and that you’ve got a real “gottcha” question for the liberal gays. But that is only because they understand debate as poorly as you, and rely 100% on logical fallacies, which are NOT arguments.
Just stop with the appeals to hypocrisy, shame, intolerance..etc…
No one here is treating Benson any differently than they treat any right wing conservative against gay rights.
Just because he’s gay, you say we MUST accept him and his ridiculous, dangerous politics?
No. Not at all. We don’t have to accept right wing bigotry just because it comes from a gay mouth. What a poorly constructed, intellectually dishonest argument you guys made.
Next, you use the classic, “Accuse your opponents of doing the very thing you are doing”, claiming people are “close minded”, or against “free thinking”
Please, That is the right wing playbook and their favorite MO. Go back to the aforementioned right wing blogoshpere and tell your buddies that.
AS I’ve mentioned before to the right wingers on here – find an actual argument. One that isn’t just you whiny babies going “waaaaahhhhhhhhh, waaahhhhhhh, and throwing logical fallacies and non-arguments are the wall to see what sticks. Then maybe people might take you and Benson more seriously.
BJ McFrisky
@Xzamilio: Your ability to straddle the line and see fault on both sides makes you more intelligent than most libs OR cons—you don’t start out with an agenda, and make up your mind based on what makes the most sense, not what excites the anchors at MSNBC and FNC. For that, I admire and thank you.
To answer your question, I represent no “movement” per se, but my values consist of having a capitalistic economy, respect of law (except weed laws), a strong military, minimal governmental intrusion in our lives, and liberties for everyone—including marriage and any other civil rights we should be afforded. But I’m not conservative. In fact, I disagree with cons more than 50% of the time, mostly because Republicans have allowed the far-right religious nuts to infiltrate and dictate their doctrine, much like Democrats have allowed the radical left to dominate their platform in the past decade. As you can see from many of the comments on these boards, gay men who don’t toe the liberal line are frequently lambasted for straying from the plantation, and this is why I tend to generalize liberals as having similar perspectives. It makes me insane that American gay men are tearing their hair out over a pizzeria stating they won’t cater a gay wedding, but when shown videos of gay Iranians being thrown off rooftops by Muslims, they shrug because it doesn’t fit the narrative they’ve been indoctrinated into. Being gay isn’t synonymous with liberal politics, but in today’s political climate, you’d be hard-pressed not to think so.
Giancarlo85
You just don’t get it, bj. The world isn’t liberal versus conservatives. But American right wingers helped create terrorists. Reagan was close friends with the mujahedin.
And what radical left? The democrats are right of center. Learn the fucking reality for a change.
Rich Penway
he looks like a toe tapper.
AtticusBennett
@Kieran: i never said he’s not allowed to be. ever.
it’s just very clear – he’s only tolerated by some republicans as long as he, like a real coward, does not champion LGBT equality, and refuses to call out the GOP and Fox News on their continued promotion of anti-LGBT prejudice and bigotry.
he doesn’t do that. at all.
EVER.
and even though he doesn’t, he’s still hated by The Right.
this is what gay republicans never learn – when you make yourself a doormat, people will walk all over you.
we liberals know better.
and here’s why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrv31BCGeqY
AtticusBennett
how many of you gay republicans commenting in here can put your face online like i have and make a bold declaration championing LGBT Equality within the GOP? what’s that? NONE of you? exactly. and this is why your party doesn’t respect you, and no self-respecting gay man will ever lower himself to sleep with you.
Richard Vincent Farias
That’s because Bryanna ain’t straight…
BJ McFrisky
@AtticusBennett: A non-Democrat does not a Republican make. But it surprises me none that a liberal doesn’t understand this.
Giancarlo85
I am not conservative, I am not liberal. I am a green and leftist. Liberal in my mind means right wing.
Kieran
Atticus, there is an old saying, “Different strokes for different folks.” Being gay, you should understand the meaning of that better than anyone. Not everybody in this life is going to think and feel the way you do, politically or otherwise. You have an absolute right to your political beliefs AND be gay. And Guy Benson has an absolute right to his political beliefs AND be gay. You don’t have to agree with him. You don’t have to HATE him either.
The fact of the matter is that Guy Benson probably reached millions more people in one night in his “coming out” interview on Fox News than all your Youtube videos will ever reach in your lifetime. You are preaching to the choir. Guy is helping to educate lots of educable heterosexuals. Bryan Fischer understands that, which is why he is demanding that Guy be fired.
We’ve got enough hate in this world. Try a little tolerance and brotherhood toward gays who don’t share your party affiliation.
AtticusBennett
@BJ McFrisky: and it’s no surprise that you say what you say, which is the same drivel all anonymous internet cowards who were disappointments to their fathers say.
it’s ok, bucko. we can all understand why you’re here every day, saying what you say – this internet anonymity is an escape from your own sad life, where nobody respects you, nobody cares about you, nobody supports you. you come to rant and ramble – anonymously.
Giancarlo85
@Kieran: Nobody is denying him the right to have his views. Why do you right wingers always insist you are being victimized or silenced?
And I highly doubt his coming out did such a thing. More people watch YouTube than a station like Fox news. That is just the kind of society we live in.
Guy is not educating anyone and his views are mostly inane vitriol just like Bryan Fischer himself. Stop acting as if he is some hero or savior. He simply isn’t.
Luis H. Lopez
Someone is on the down low self loathing closeted gay bottom!
Xzamilio
@BJ McFrisky: And you know what? I do apologize because this isn’t the first time you have said that you were not a conservative, but I keep forgetting that, namely because of the manner in which you comment. I do identify as liberal, although I have had my fair share of unpleasant interactions other liberals because of some of my views, but we don’t all have to agree with one another and that is a good thing. However, there is no obligation to just accept people lie Guy Benson with open arms, especially when he specifically aligns himself with a regressive movement that uses people like him — like us — as a platform for voters, and not in a good way for us.
Now, I will admit that the pizzeria thing pissed me off because it so out of left field and no one was going to these people trying to force our morality on them… they decided to open their mouths and display their bigotry, and it paid off well for them. I don’t condone the death threats and threats of violence against them, but I’d be lying if I said I cared really… I don’t. But you are correct again in that you rarely hear about the atrocities happening to the LGBT in the middle east, and the CNN coverage of the Garland, TX shooting did it for me. Fox News is like a busted clock that tells the correct time twice a day with radical Islam
Xzamilio
@AtticusBennett: This is completely unrelated but how did you upload your photo? I can’t find that feature anywhere.
MCHG
@AtticusBennett: why exactly do you think you’re better than others because you put you face online? Kim Kardashian done put all her body and opinions on the internet, does that make her better than you or me? There are plenty gay Republicans who openly advocate LGBT rights. They’re called the Log Cabin Republicans. Most people don’t want to put pics of themselves on this site because 1) they don’t have to and 2) not everyone is comfortable attaching their real life identity to every comment they ever make on a gossip site. Also, plenty of self respecting gays sleepwith Republicans because not all gays are liberal or care about politics. The last thing you ask somebody before hooking up with them is who they’re voting for next election.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: who made Fischer RNC chairman? Last time I checked he was a local radio host with a marginal following. Left wing sites give him more air time than any right wing site ever has or will. Does Fischer represent Rob Portman and Mark Kirk, who have openly gone against their part when it comes to gay issues? Does he represent Susan Collins (Maine), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Dean Heller (Nev.), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), Rob Portman (Ohio), Jeff Flake (Ariz.), John McCain (Ariz.), Orrin Hatch (Utah) and Pat Toomey (Pa.) who all want to put ENDA up for a vote? Maybe he represents the 61% of young Republicans who favor gay marriage. Im just curious.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: How would you know Guy Benson’s book is garbage? It doesn’t even come out until June 9. I know because I pre-ordered it 😉
Saint Law
@wagnerwallace: “How do you know Guy Benson’s book is garbage?”
From the title and his reported comments it is clear his prose is awful.
“I know because I pre-ordered it”.
But then as someone who can’t write, think or argue that is hardly a surprise.
;o)
Saint Law
@MCHG: No. You’re quite wrong – as you effectively acknowledge.
No self respecting person – gay or straight – would ever knowingly sleep with a Republican.
Saint Law
What conservatives, being variously: ignorant, stupid, insane, evil or a mix of all four, will never understand is that they are not hated over a “difference of opinion”, but because the consequences of their opinions are destructive to human dignity, health and happiness.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: INCORRECT on a massive scale. The republican party is controlled by types like Fischer. That’s the republican party base. The party peddles hatred and intolerance. Those republicans who change their minds are often ostracized from their own party. Rob Portman for example? You all cherry pick a couple of names, but don’t look at the bigger picture.
@Xzamilio: You never really answered any my questions. Do you know why terrorism exists? It exists because some stuck in extreme poverty are driven to terrorism. This is what happened in Nigeria with Boko Haram. The Nigerian government was so woefully corrupt and little opportunity exists in the Northern part of the country.
This is why republicans and conservatives are so wrong on terrorism. They believe bombing things will solve the problem. It will just create new terrorists.
@wagnerwallace: Why would I care? I already know it’s conservative blowhard garbage.
The world is a lot more than “Conservative vs liberal”.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: The Log Cabin republicans don’t actually advocate for LGBT rights. They advocate for the republican party. They endorse anti-gay candidates just because they are republican.
“Maybe he represents the 61% of young Republicans who favor gay marriage. Im just curious.”
You do realize young republicans represent a small minority of republican voters right?
“The last thing you ask somebody before hooking up with them is who they’re voting for next election.”
I don’t think any self respecting gay person would want to sleep with a closeted asshole who is going to vote for a candidate that would take away equality.
Giancarlo85
I just don’t quite grasp why the right wingers here insist on making the world “liberal versus conservative”. Not everyone lives in the demented American political system. And in the American political system there are two ideologies. Extreme right (republicans) and center of right (democrats).
The republican party was hijacked in the 1960s and is now controlled by defense contractors, major business interests and religious wackos.
If someone made this speech today they would be called a socia-li-st:
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
….
Here is my favorite part:
“We pray that peoples of all faiths, all races, all nations, may have their great human needs satisfied; that those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all who yearn for freedom may experience its spiritual blessings; that those who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibilities; that all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity; that the scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be made to disappear from the earth, and that, in the goodness of time, all peoples will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and love.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower
I guess he’s a leftist. He talked about poverty, disease and ignorance… well 50+ years later that hasn’t disappeared from this earth unfortunately.
wagnerwallace
@Saint Law: Riiiiiight… My writing has been perfectly fine. What you radical liberals need to realize is that just because you say something, that doesn’t make it true. With that being said, you’re clearly not the brightest tool in the shed #GoogleUniversityAlumni
@Giancarlo85: You should just shut up – your views are pretty over-the-top and extreme. It also has become very clear that it is impossible to have a well informed discussion with you, without you flipping your top and blowing a gasket. Calm down. Try practicing tolerance and acceptance for a change. As a matter of a fact, look those words up – “tolerance” & “acceptance” – those are your words for today.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: Your writing is terrible, and you keep using the word “liberal”. Do you realize most people in the world don’t look at politics as being “liberal versus conservative”? Do you realize conservatives in some countries are more left wing than democrats? LOL.
You’re about as dumb as a rock. How are my views over the top and extreme? I’m a global thinker. You’re incredibly narrow minded and live in a sort of world influenced by Fox News. You need to gain some sense and stop being a hypocrite. You’re not tolerant nor accepting. You advocate a philosophy that is all about hatred and intolerance. You know nothing about acceptance.
Giancarlo85
Here is an example of a “liberal party”. Some like wagner must be saying “oh they must be left wing!!!!!”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia – They are right wing. The funny part is the republican party makes these guys look like centrists.
Anyways, can we stop using the “liberal versus conservative” terminology? It has no bearing on the real world and is not relevant. There is so much more to politics in other developed countries. And every other developed country I can think of has politics that makes even democrats look right wing.
cabe
@wagnerwallace: What gay liberals get upset about is that people like Guy are committing a form of treason and “sleeping with the enemy”. Instead of having a fellow gay person work to support the cause of gay rights, he is working against his own tribe. His vote cancels out each of my votes for equality.As long as there is a evangelical base in the GOP, gays will never be fully accepted there.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: My writing is terrible, I’m dumb as a rock, I’m ridiculous…. I’ve taken so much verbal abuse today. I never even said there was a Liberal party in America- I called you a liberal. I’m not a teacher, you should reference a dictionary if you don’t understand the words. I’ve literally heard it ALL from you two today. Thanks for helping me get through my work day, because unlike you, I WORK – I have a JOB.
It truly amazes me how any dissent gets you guys so fired up.
wagnerwallace
@cabe: I totally see where you’re coming from. And that’s a fair opinion. I don’t agree with it, but I accept it.
I wish the couple of guys commenting here could articulate that, if that is how they feel.
NoCagada
@BJ McFrisky: IGNORANT…you do like those FOX stereotypes…
jwtraveler
@Kieran: Gay men can be anything they want, but I for one don’t care that Benson is gay. Unlike some gay men, my identity and ideology don’t revolve around my sexuality. Benson is a right-wing Republican and I can never support that. Republicans are anti-worker, anti-union, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, and largely r@cist: in short, anti-human. Republicans care about one and only one thing–helping wealthy, powerful people increase their wealth and power, and I can NEVER support that; I don’t care who they sleep with.
BJ McFrisky
@Xzamilio: And I agree with everything you just stated. Ya see? Civility is its own reward.
Cheers.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: And I already made it clear for you and your pea sized brain, I am not a liberal. You are just not educated enough to realize that. You use the word liberal as an insult. And now you are claiming I don’t have a job? Funny since you are on here more than me.
I have a job which requires a lot of outdoor activity (I work a public utility). I suggest you don’t even go there.
Maybe I’d you stopped with the constant name calling and using the word liberal, you could ask me where I really stand.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: I articulated the same thing and I expanded on my thoughts with quotations and evidence. You just don’t like to hear what I have to say because it assaults your simplistic world views.
When someone uses the word “liberal” as an insult, I know they don’t have a real argument and any substantative background in political matters. They are simply repeating what they were told to say.
Stop calling people “liberal” when they don’t agree with you… it makes you look very weak.
BJ McFrisky
@AtticusBennett: Because you wrongly label me a conservative, you feel compelled to toss boring anger-grenades out there suggesting that I’m a “disappointment to my father” . . .
That no one will “lower himself to sleep with” me . . .
That I have a “sad life” . . .
That no one “respects, cares about, or supports” me . . .
. . . all the while claiming to be a compassionate, inclusive, tolerant, progressive, peace-loving liberal out to save the world.
Ah, the logic of the left.
Giancarlo85
@BJ McFrisky: You don’t show any respect of those on the left. You constantly belittle us and use aggressive arguments. What do you expect? Tolerance for your intolerant narrow minded world views? You aren’t getting it.
The right wing always cries victim. The right wing aren’t being victimized. They victimize other people though.
Xzamilio
@Giancarlo85: I never answered answered your question at all, mainly because I didn’t even know you were talking to me. But, there are a multitude of factors that go into the creation of terrorist organization, extreme poverty being only one of them. Of course some conservatives are wrong thinking that nuking everyone will solve the problem, just like some liberals are wrong thinking that it’s just socioeconomic factors and not also the tenets of bronze/iron age woo woo sky daddy bullshit. Sorry, but if you tell me you’re killing in the name of [insert god here], I’m not about to pick apart what you mean… I’m gonna believe you. Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah… do you see a pattern? The way I see it, moderate conservative and liberal and independents are the ones who are likely to come up with reasonable solutions, whereas neocons are only gonna want to nuke the ME and Africa, while the progressive left will want to hug them harder and think throwing money at them will stop this… it won’t. You have a movement fueled by oppression and poverty, supported by religion that celebrates martyrdom…
tllthn89
This is totally homophobic. I am pretty forgiving and open to all points and I’m not sensitive as a gay man. But shame on this man.
Good luck to this handsome new gay guy. He has a lot of flack coming to him from both sides just for being who he is. Good luck to him.
Giancarlo85
@Xzamilio: Again the progressive left does no such thing. The left wing in France were the first to condemn the terrorist attack there. Leftists want a secular society. Leftists in Egypt for example were also key in the toppling of the Islamic government.
I am sorry but you missed the point. With less economic opportunity, people are more likely to be turned to religious extremism. They are more susceptible to extremism. This is exactly what happened in Nigeria.
Giancarlo85
The largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia, is undergoing a rapid economic expansion. So is Turkey, despite the Ergodan government. Turkey has seen its major cities undergo huge construction booms. Neither country have significant problems with terrorism, though there are lingering issues with the Kurds in Turkey (who are the most secular) and some issues for Indonesia in certain provinces.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: Just for the record – you say that I’m on here more than you, but in this thread of 60 comments, 20 of which belong to you and 8 belong to me.
You work “outdoors”, Gian Carlo? Well, you must not be working too much and mowing those laws, because you sure have a lot of time to post ESSAYS on every Queerty post. You’re an idiot and it’s obvious your English isn’t good…
martinbakman
@AtticusBennett: There are gays that don’t believe in gay marriage and don’t believe in creating non-traditional families. That’s a fact. They are just as stuck in their traditions as all the rest of the Repubs.
What I don’t get is how they find acceptance and love, yet they seem to.
And I really hate it when the closet cases that used to work with the haters like speech writers for Jerry Fallwell or chair of the Repub National Committee finally claim they’ve seen the light and proceed to make money by championing positions they used to work against. I wish they would go away and be quiet, and at a minimum make more of an effort to apologize to the community.
Michael Haynes
People like Bryan Fischer and Tony Perkins worry me, they are way too obsessed with Gay People and our sex lives.. And poor Guy Benson comes out and is rejected by our community and is rejected by his own conservative community, that must really suck for him.. I guess Megan Kelly was wrong he has no safe place.
AtticusBennett
@BJ McFrisky: you prove me right, and yourself full of S**t, every time you comment in here.
guys like you only ever say what you say from a place of Internet Anonymity – and guys like you are the saddest ones: loveless, uninspired, right-leaning, and closeted. yay!
here’s what Fox News Viewers will think about Guy Benson;
“Look! Ma! There’s a homosexical on the News! And he hates the blacks, and unions, and poor and other gays as much as we do! He hates the liberals! He’s just as worthless as us! YAY!”
FOX is still the network that brings unrepentant anti-gay bigots to be the “experts perspective” on all gay issues. Now they have a kapo quisling who refuses to stand up for LGBT Equality, and refuses to challenge the bigotry of the network and the GOP.
make no mistake – he’s not gonna change any hearts or minds. he’s one more lousy gay white moneyed republican with no spine and no balls.
and again, all those defending him – put yourself online, youtube yourself, defending him and LGBT equality with your conservative families. what’s that? you can’t? duh.
AtticusBennett
@MCHG: i bet you’re among the ugliest trolls ever to glue his lips to a glory hole 😀
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You’re a complete and total asshole.
“you say that I’m on here more than you, but in this thread of 60 comments, 20 of which belong to you and 8 belong to me.”
Speaking of shitty English… anyone can read the statement above and see a clear example of shitty English.
My English is just fine.
“Well, you must not be working too much and mowing those laws”
I work for a public utility.
I didn’t realize somebody could mow “laws” though. I guess you’d have to be a really lawyer or corrupt judge to do that.
Your English is absolute shit. I already pointed a run-on sentence and incorrect word usage.
Don’t throw stones from a glass house.
Giancarlo85
@AtticusBennett: Don’t mind these idiots. They talk about using “GOOD ENGLISH”.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/forester1/Junk/moran.jpg
I just found this picture of wagnerwallace!
Here is a picture of MCHG in action:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/MoronsWithSigns/moronswithsigns.jpg
And I found this incredible picture of BJ McFisty:
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.15202.1314097176!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/gal-teabonics-29-jpg.jpg
You can’t fix stupid.
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *really good lawyer 🙂
Billysees
@tllthn89:
“Good luck to this handsome new gay guy. He has a lot of flack coming to him from both sides just for being who he is. Good luck to him.”
Good comment. Good luck to him is right.