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Cozy NJ Inn Attacks Lesbian Mom, Says God Invented AIDS To Punish Gays

Innkeepers are turning out to be a surprisingly hateful bunch: After New Jersey lesbian Joianne Fraschilla shared her disappointment that a nearby inn was promoting Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, the owner replied with a vicious screed attacking the LGBT community and claiming God invented AIDS to punish the gay community.

Hmm, I wonder if they serve fresh muffins in the morning?

Fraschilla was disturbed to see a sign outside Whitebriar Bed and Breakfast in her hometown of Edgewater Park, New Jersey, that promoted the chicken chain and “One Man One Woman Marriage.” She respectfully wrote the owners on Facebook, saying, “This is somewhere my son loves to pass by and we have been excited to visit. Not anymore. I’m sad to see a local business anti LGBT marriage.”

The owner’s venomous response was hardly Christ-like:

Isn’t it wonderful Joanne Fraschilla, that you and your son can enjoy the animals here because I have a traditional marriage with a husband who works with me 90 hours a week to take care of these animals, and the summer camp….we’re 66-68 years old….there were no gays or queers in our time…..if two old ladies chose to live together..so be it, let them deal with God when they get there…but to have the “face sucking” thrown in my face of two gay lesbians who are totally destroying the “normal balance in a child’s life” as you claim your son…

Where is the role model that your son needs to know how to act like a man? or will he only see the “one sided selfishness” of a “single parent”…and end up an out cast in society by being “gay” himself because he didn’t have a father as a role model. I’ll pray for you….remember what the bible says: “Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas”…..guess that’s why God invented aids….

THIS LOCAL BUSINESS WILL BE ONE MAN ONE WOMAN ONE GOD MAKES MARRIAGE….AND PROUD TO DO SO….YOU SHOULD BE SO LUCKY TO OWN YOUR OWN BUSINESS

Ironically, Whitebriar owners Carole and Bill Moore operate a 10-week summer camp for kids on the grounds of the inn, where they promise “to prepare Children to be a Loving, Productive, Successful member [sic] of society by treating all God’s creatures kindly as they go through their daily life.”

We’re really at a loss. (And not just because “Lie down with dogs” is from Poor Richard’s Almanac, not the Bible.)

There’s no point in engaging such bigotry and hypocrisy directly, but if some intrepid readers wanted to call Whitebriar’s and book a room or two—make sure they know you and your partner just need one bed—the number is 609-871-9555. Ask them about their discount for same-sex weddings.

 

(Source: Good as You)

By:           Dan Avery
On:           Jul 31, 2012
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  • 75 Comments
    • Atlas
      Atlas

      More “Christians” who’ve never even opened a Bible.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 11:56 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Belize
      Belize

      “Isn’t it wonderful Joanne Fraschilla, that you and your son can enjoy the animals here
      because I have a traditional marriage with a husband who works with me 90 hours a week to take care of these animals, and the summer camp…”

      So I’m guessing he doesn’t fuck you, then. No wonder you’re so jealous of people who are happy.

      “we’re 66-68 years old… there were no gays or queers in our time…”

      LOL. So you were stupid then too, huh? Good to know you’re consistent. However, I am pretty sure that proper sentence constructions were already being taught in schools during your ancient time. What’s the matter, too busy taking care of animals to get the proper education that would have saved you from being such an embarrassment to the human race?

      “..if two old ladies chose to live together..so be it, let them deal with God when they get there…but to have the “face sucking” thrown in my face of two gay lesbians… who are totally destroying the “normal balance in a child’s life” as you claim your son…”

      I’m pretty sure that child is still pretty lucky that he didn’t end up in the household of two hicks from New Jersey whose only contribution in the world is stealing business ideas from Noah’s Ark.

      “Where is the role model that your son needs to know how to act like a man? or will he only see the “one sided selfishness” of a “single parent”…and end up an out cast in society by being “gay” himself because he didn’t have a father as a role model.”

      He will end up to be a wonderful person because he wasn’t raised and corrupted by an unimportant yet self-important imbecile like you.

      “I’ll pray for you….remember what the bible says: “Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas”….

      The Bible also said a whole bunch of stuff about not being an asshole. I guess you missed that part since it goes against your lifestyle.

      .”guess that’s why God invented aids….”

      Oh, you mean the same AIDS that can also affect you? Or are you thinking that you’re safe from it just because you don’t get laid?

      “THIS LOCAL BUSINESS WILL BE ONE MAN ONE WOMAN ONE GOD MAKES MARRIAGE….AND PROUD TO DO SO….YOU SHOULD BE SO LUCKY TO OWN YOUR OWN BUSINESS”

      Translation: “We’re idiots and we want to stay that way.”

      Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/cozy-nj-inn-attacks-lesbian-mom-says-god-invented-aids-to-punish-gays-20120731/#ixzz22DW5Up3q

      Jul 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Larry
      Larry

      and god invented stupidity so there would be christianity. lesbian women have the lowest % of AID’s

      Jul 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kergan Edwards-Stout
      Kergan Edwards-Stout

      You can also send them a nice note via their contact form! http://whitebriarbedandbreakfast.com/contact-us

      Jul 31, 2012 at 1:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • roger
      roger

      I would love to see a same sex couple set this woman up, book a wedding party at her place and after the bride walks down the aisle do a switcher roo and have the groom and best man or bride and maid of honor get married. all the male and female guest could change places too to same sex couples. she would die on the spot lol

      Jul 31, 2012 at 1:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daniel Philippe
      Daniel Philippe

      Since when is being gay and loving someone of the same gender such a bad thing? If it is such a bad thing, does that mean murder is okay? Definitely not. I think their business should be running anymore, until they can learn how to love people and treat them with respect. I think the lesbian mom should press charges, if it is possible against the Innkeeper.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 2:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Richard Ford
      Richard Ford

      News flash to Carole Moore: God didn’t invent AIDS to punish homosexuals. He already had heterosexuals to do that.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 2:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Marriage Equality
      Marriage Equality

      http://whitebriarbedandbreakfast.com/ … they also post 2 cell #s and say you can call ANYTIME! …snicker, snicker

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ted B. (Charging Rhino)
      Ted B. (Charging Rhino)

      It’s really not much of a “Bed and Breakfast”; more like just an ordinary house in a typical South Jersey blue-collar suburban neighborhood. It’s a few miles from where I live. I think their main business is operating an affordable Christian summer-camp for the local kids while their parents are at work….hence the B&B license.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ann Mason
      Ann Mason

      Although the operator who speaks on behalf of Whitebriar Bed and Breakfast has proven to be a hateful, foolish person, I’m alarmed that Queerty has published the Inn’s phone number and encouraged readers to call.

      Harassing bigots will do nothing to change their views, and it encourages other bigots to organize. Although it is reasonable to print the homophobic message and ask the public to boycott that business, any formal protest should be limited to civilized methods which don’t interfere with the owners running their business. Advising readers to call and ask about same-sex wedding discounts will only stir up the existing hornets’ nest, since it allows the owners to report crank phone calls and possibly file criminal complaints against the callers.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ogre Magi
      Ogre Magi

      The Bible does not say “Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas”…

      that is from Ben Franklin. Christians don’t even know their own magic book!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aki M.
      Aki M.

      It’s sad to see such hateful comments coming from people who claim to follow Jesus. It’s just as sad to see such hateful comments coming from some of the readers of this post. Both groups really love to alienate LGBT Christians don’t they? I wish SOMEONE would step up in the name of “love thy neighbor” here.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MACDONALDBANK
      MACDONALDBANK

      Being black, left-handed or being gay is just as natural. Bibles and the torah which includes leviticus 18:22 should be immediately banned for promoting hatred against minorities; namely the gay community and the crosses removed from all schools and churches.

      The evil writings in Leviticus 18:22 against gays depict; rules for temple rituals or “P” … Priestly Rules & expanded by the pope; homophobes and religious frauds to attack the gay community and never meant to apply to the public but to priests. Leviticus exists in the old testament & torah.

      “It is written; so therefore it shall be? We are the chosen people? Such a wicked fantasy.” To see the religious lunatics manipulate government and our lives is shameful.

      It is a sometimes rare occurrence to fall in Love and to hold that person in your heart and be loved in return … it is something that should be celebrated! If it is between two guys or girls all the better. It takes even more courage to defend that LOVE!

      How would you like it … if hate speech was directed to your brother or sister as you sat in the pew; spewed by some better than thou religious lunatic with a hateful black book about Leviticus — under his arm?

      The pope and churches fully aware that Leviticus 18:22 applies only to priests; refuse to remove this stigma maliciously persecuting gays – and many kids bullied into suicide …!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MACDONALDBANK
      MACDONALDBANK

      There is no scientific evidence to prove any of the cross related bogus elements of christianity. Man goes back 6,000,000 years; 5,996,000 years before the Greeks, Romans and the Jews and 5,998,000 years pre-dating the myth of christianity which is a mere 2012 year old cult which copied Mithraism. Jesus even copied Simon who lived 150 miles from where Jesus supposedly lived! Simon was saying he was the messiah … long before Jesus and Jesus copied the idea via his cousin John the Baptist and thereafter Jesus said he was the messiah – what total bull!

      Today they have insane asylums for such professed messiahs.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MACDONALDBANK
      MACDONALDBANK

      Christianity is basically a fiction which turned out to be one of the most hateful & evil concoctions ever perpetrated on the world.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 3:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • shelleybear
      shelleybear

      Isn’t it wonderful Joanne Fraschilla, that you and your son can enjoy the animals here because I have a traditional marriage with a husband who works with me 90 hours a week to take care of these animals, and the summer camp….we’re 66-68 years old….there were no gays or queers in our time…

      No, instead you f*cked those same poor animals until they bled.
      You should be ashamed of yourselves!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Okpackage
      Okpackage

      Lets all call Whitebriar Bed and Breakfast and book rooms .. Or just call them to ask if they’re position on gay marriage has changed. Or if that fails, just ask for the moron that posted that blurb.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Natalie
      Natalie

      This comic is a really good example of how flawed this inn keeper’s logic is-

      http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2572#comic

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • fredj
      fredj

      @Ann Mason:

      No, it won’t change their twisted little minds.

      BUT it is a bit of fun, and the irritation they go through might encourage them to keep their bigotry to themselves in the future.

      Neither is a bad thing.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael Preston
      Michael Preston

      They OBVIOUSLY AREN’T Christians! As a TRUE Christian loves… So please don’t throw all of us Christians under a bus. Yes there are bad apples just as there are bad apples in the gay community; it doesn’t mean that you throw the whole group out. Quite honestly, there are so many factions in the gay community that you can’t even get along. In order to quell “hate” you must start in your own community. Quit fighting amongst yourselves and just accept each other as the twink; bear; transgender; bisexual; drag queen; butch dyke; lipstick. But I digress.. Just remember to accept each other..

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ted TampaBay
      Ted TampaBay

      @Larry: Just for the record, I thought by definition “lesbians” were always women. Unless you come from the Greek isle of Lesbos, where you can then have male and female “Lesbians.”

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • faith
      faith

      @Belize: I agree, instead of wasting her time writing such illiterate hateful nonsense she needs to get an education and pick up the Bible and read from from to back before she qoutes anything ever again. And side note more heterosexuals have AIDS or HIV then homosexuals, and alot of homosexual people come from heterosexual home and sometimes vice versa. Educate yourself through some research before you comment about a lifestyle again Mrs. Moore.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Ogre Magi: Unfortunately,O.M.,
      you’re right.Just as bad I believe,or worse,is that whatever
      they’re religious,or not,many Americans don’t know their own
      government books,either.I recently had a vehement Pro-lifer
      tell me:”It’s right there in our Constitution!_The right to life!””
      BTW,O. M.,What gift did you bring to the Adoration?…Not
      one of those Shreck Action Figures,I hope!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 4:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • streetsmart
      streetsmart

      And need we not forget that God invented breast cancer to punish women, prostrate cancer to punish men and famine/starvation to punish innocent children. What a wonderful God one must worship to believe that these horrific things are somehow created as punishments from their “heavenly” father – isn’t just the threat of living an eternity in Hell sufficient for these bible beaters? Just gotta love these Christians.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 5:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mark Jenkins
      Mark Jenkins

      What a shame-these hateful old people will be the ones burning in hell when their time comes- for being extremely un-christian in their behavior.Oh well- No loss to us, the gay community- and when they’re gone, some enterprising gay or lesbian couple will take over their charming inn and make it a truly loving place for ALL families to vacation!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 5:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daez
      Daez

      @Natalie: Well played!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 5:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Paul
      Paul

      Did they forget that statistically more straight people have HIV/AIDS than gay people?

      Jul 31, 2012 at 5:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kevin
      Kevin

      I am Joianne’s dad. This B&B is very close to where my daughter and her family live and as such my grandson has gone to the petting zoo several times in the past. She did NOT take him “into a hostile environment” knowingly as some people have suggested. Until the owners of this B&B put that sign out no one in the area were aware of their political/religious leanings. She merely posted on her Face Book page that she was disappointed to see a business make a HUGE PUBLIC display of their opinion and how because of is she was sad that my grandson would no longer be allowed to go there. THAT WAS IT!

      To have received such a viscous and hate-filled reply by the owner of the B&B was totally uncalled for and went beyond the boundaries of a respectful discussion. As my daughter has stated since the very beginning and still does, the owners have every right to express their opinions and beliefs. However when you express your beliefs (especially with a road sign in front of your business) others have a right to express theirs. At no point in time has my daughter stooped the level of hatred that has been expressed by these people and she has gone out of her way to discourage others from doing so. In turn all she asked for is for a public apology for such hate-filled words.

      I want to thank all of those who have shown you support for my daughter, you have no idea how much this means to her. I do want to ask however to please keep the discussion going in a respectful, non-threatening manner. To name call, wish any type of harm or ill will only LOWERS the discussion to the level of the owner’s reply and does nothing to advance the cause for LGBT issues in the public eye.

      Thank you,
      Joianne’s dad – Kevin

      Jul 31, 2012 at 5:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John Mastrangelo
      John Mastrangelo

      Well that’s one place I won’t be spending my vacation

      Jul 31, 2012 at 5:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Larkin
      Larkin

      they’ll be dead soon… thank god.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 6:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • funsnowfall
      funsnowfall

      Yes, there’s more straight people who have Venereal Disease (VD like this old word) just as there’s more non-smokers who get lung cancer, but that doesn’t change the fact that gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are bad in & of itself & homosexual activities are comparable to drug junkyism. They should make it a crime to do sex change maimings because transexuals are worse than the queers.

      With homosexuality, even if orientation doesn’t change, it’s best for gays & lesbians to be celibate because gay & lesbian sexual activities is comparable to marijuana smoking. Gay & lesbian activities are bad for health-DRUGSAREGAY.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Candice Marie Sweet
      Candice Marie Sweet

      The # listed is for the ‘cafe’ and say’s ‘they don’t monitor it, so don’t leave a message’ but it does give 2 other #s to call (609) 433-7978 & 7979. I’m calling to book a room for my hubby and I after I get legally married in NY state since it’s not legal (yet) in California (stupid)!

      Even stupider is the fact that we could all get married nice and legally if one in the relationship had a sex change (or GRS – Gender reassignment surgery) as I plan on having, I am a LEGAL pre-op female (transgender woman) in California.

      It just cuts to the core the ignorance H8rs/Bigots use to keep “We The People” from enjoying equal rights as The Declaration of Independence (written by Thomas Jefferson) states: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men (insert people) are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men (insert people), deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

      And as far the highest law is concerned, isn’t it just so cozy when the religious (Hateful) right picks and chooses scripture that fits their argument!? I prefer to take THE WHOLE BIBLE in it’s context and live by that. The R-R takes form Leviticus and other Hebrew texts and completely ignore what Jesus (God incarnate) said “Love your neighbor as you love yourself and love God.” That’s it. Those were the laws handed down from God directly, not some set of laws that were written by countless people as a way to control and keep in line the masses! The R-R also conveniently ignores the relationships deemed Godly by Jesus of Jonathan & David and Ruth & Naomi just to name two. No the R-R skips right over those passages when preaching or they twist the texts to say what they want them to say. It wasn’t until Constantine of Rome when same-sex relationships were thought wrong and he instituted it because of his fear of the raiders from the east, so he mocked their practices to the Romans in an attempt to make those from the east appear as some sort of monsters to them. The Catholic church then ran with with it and hence, history gets re-written. Those that tout the Bible rarely ‘study’ the WHOLE Bible.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • funsnowfall
      funsnowfall

      1 more thing. The NJ inn couple should have told the lesbian the fact gay/lesbian activitis are comparable to drug junkyism & lesbians have more copathologies. With Venereal Disease (VD), if a man is going to have sex with many women & not use condoms, then no sympathy for him. Yet with homosexual AIDS victims, Elton Toilet John says we should sympathise but I have no sympathy for homosexual AIDS victims because they had sex with many sometimes usig drugs. Homosexual AIDS victims have themselves to blame because they had risky activities.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joe Joe
      Joe Joe

      and gays AREN’T hateful?? please..most of the hate comes from gays and most people are only responding to the hate from the gay community..

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Joe Joe: Strong words,Joe Joe!
      “Most”? Examples,please and while you’re at it,how about some
      documented statistics/percentages?It’s easy to make assertions,
      easier still to make ungrounded ones,not so easy to find solidly
      based ones. Sorry,but hearsay and anecdotal evidence will not do.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michael
      michael

      Is this an “inn” or a trailer? Sometimes everything in the U.S. seems like one big trailer park.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Candice Marie Sweet
      Candice Marie Sweet

      @Joe Joe: Live ‘In the margins’ as I do for JUST one day, and I know you’ll take that statement back. ‘We’ (LGBTQ) people are the most respectful/inclusive of all groups because we know what it’s like to be HATED for being WHAT we are. You throw around terms and bunch ALL into your comfortable cozy little pigeon hole, just where you want us, sounds so very familiar to the attitudes of Jim Crow ‘Oh I love blacks, everyone should own one’, or ‘as long as ‘they’ stay on the other side of town where ‘They’ belong!’ If ‘we’ seem hateful to you, it’s probably a reaction to your attitude toward us, beat a dog enough and it won’t act friendly….. Hate is as Hate does!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Candice Marie Sweet
      Candice Marie Sweet

      @funsnowfall: WOW! Your ignorance is ALMOST as strong as your H8/BIGOTRY! Explain to me ‘honey’ just how then did Elizabeth Glazer get and die of AIDS? Or how about the MILLIONS in the 3rd world? Just 2 examples of how idiotic your statement is.

      What is REALLY scary is that you actually exist!

      Geez, you may be a teacher or something! Luckily, you (as I) ONLY have 1 vote!

      I think the Anti-Hate crowd will win out when the dust settles eventually.
      What you all can’t stand is that WE are finally getting mad and speaking our minds!
      And you don’t like confrontation do you sweetheart!?

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @funsnowfall: Thanks for your
      well-done sarcasm,funsnow ! Not to take away from that,but sadly,
      and far too often,DRUGSAREGAY[not,by any means,exclusively,
      ,of course],to often,for many people a way of attempting to
      escape,to cope.The same is true for many gay’s abuse of alcohol.
      Unfortunately on the latter vice,I write from personal experience.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Candice Marie Sweet
      Candice Marie Sweet

      @funsnowfall: I’m a ‘Transsexual’ (actually Transgender) and I highly doubt you have the balls to say that to my face!

      And just so I understand you, since you are so much more informed than the American Psychiatric Association (www.psych.org) that determines my condition as it is now called (soon to be deemed NOT a disorder) Gender Dyphoria or Gender Identity Disorder.

      Apparently your years of education surpasses that of the minds that govern such things, perhaps you should get in touch with them and set them straight (or ‘Gayly Forward’ as I like to say)

      I gave the website, go ahead, please enlighten the world! You ignorant hateful bigot!
      I really do challenge you to come to Palm Springs and say that to my face. PS is a great getaway, however knowing ‘Freaks’ like me are lurking in the shadows here, I doubt you’ll make it.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joe Joe
      Joe Joe

      @bill(Guillermo3): I said “most” because unlike you i don’t deny they have people who hate gays, but it’s fact that a lot of hatred for gays comes from “gay fatigue” we are tired of you forcing your views and lifestyle on us, ask me 5 years ago i was apathetic towards gays and if asked in a poll I would probably support gay marriage but now thanks to Obama,Liberals and all the Chick-Filet-A etc stuff I am 1000% against gay rights/marriage

      Jul 31, 2012 at 7:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rodney Wollam
      Rodney Wollam

      Comment sent in via their website:

      “Shame on you for your bestiality. I wanted to inform you that I am reporting you to both the police and the department of health for your regular acts of sex with the poor animals you “care” for.

      Shame on you, you sick twit.”

      I found out via the Bible (or was it Poor Richard’s Almanac?)

      Jul 31, 2012 at 8:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • AaronT
      AaronT

      @Joe Joe: I’m so tired of this “excuse.” So, you can post pictures of your wedding on your desk, refer to your wife in every third sentence, talk about the week-end plans with your family and refer to your spouse by her name and gender all day long, and that’s not “forcing your views” on me? Please. If you are comfortable removing all references to your relationship and sexual orientation from me, then I will happily keep mine to myself as well. Until you are, you can STFU.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 8:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @funsnowfall: Oh,funsnowfall,
      You just taught me a painful “object lesson”,as it used to
      be called[I know what that means,but have never understood
      the words]. Which is:read all the comments before responding
      to any of them___I just finished a note admiring your sarcasm,
      & sent it:Now I see this:”Homosexual AIDS victims have only
      themselves to blame because they had risky activities”.
      How old are you snowmelt? 12?!!? “Risky activities” within
      the last 20-25 years}YES. But for MANY YEARS after this plague
      began,no one knew what caused caused it.The common & typical
      opinion was that simply having a homosexual orientation/
      just the fact of BEING gay caused Aids.Some hateful people
      relished the idea that a gay person they didn’t like would soon
      be dead.
      funsnowfall,you are correct that people(gay,straight,or anywhere
      on the wide spectrum in between)should not have unprotected sex,
      especially if the think they have a venereal disease themselves.
      Sometimes the are simply to lustful,with,or without the influence
      of drugs,and/or alcohol to use good judgement. Tragically,some gay/bi/
      etc. people make a fetish of,get a thrill from, the risk.This is
      scandalously promoted by some producers,or distributors of porn.
      I am not a psychologist,or a doctor,funsnowfall,but I get the
      distinct feeling that you are having sexual issues of your own__
      that you feel guilty,perhaps also angry,perhaps self hating about
      your feelings,AND that you may be trying to deny your feelings,
      or to change them.If I’m correct,you have my sincere sympathy:
      For TOO MANY YEARS,I went through all of that myself,and know that
      those experiences are agonizing,and most important,that they are
      a horrible waste of SPIRIT,of TIME,of LIFE.
      Please try to stop your self-righteous hating of other people
      and,MOST IMPORTANTLY of YOURSELF.That only hurts.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 9:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Candice Marie Sweet
      Candice Marie Sweet

      @Joe Joe: Oh geez, that’s about the weakest/lamest retort ever!

      I do not believe you that “5 years ago i was apathetic towards gays and if asked in a poll I would probably support gay marriage”! If you truly felt that way then and were TRUE to your convictions then the progress the LGBTQ community has gained in that time would have only strengthened your beliefs!

      Again, “We” (LGBTQ have been repressed and denied equal rights (let alone equal respect) for far too long, and now (actually since Stonewall) we are finding our voice and when we speak, the H8rs/Bigots speak up to, it nicely ‘roots them out’ from their country club bunkers and brings to the fore the nastiness that we have known always, for all to see. And you…Joe Joe chose to stand with them.

      I do feel sorry for you, it must be a terrible burden carrying so much hatred with you…
      I will try to love you anyway, but I doubt you want it.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 10:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Joe Joe: Joe Joe,You STILL give NO
      SPECIFICS,just more undefined/undocumented assertions.HOW ARE
      “YOU”,to use your term,”FORCING YOUR LIFESTYLE ON US?” Are you
      able to be specific? “YOU” is an inclusive term,meaning ALL
      of a group,so that would include ME. Joe Joe,you do not know me,
      nor,thank God,do I know you.How have I,a part of “you”(whoever
      you intend by “you”)forced anything”on us”[whoever “us” is].
      Can you be specific? Can YOU,Joe Joe,give examples? I doubt
      that you can answer either question.Thus far the only things
      that you’ve made clear are your dislike of “liberals” and of gays.
      Personally,Joe Joe,I can be angry/outraged,particularly by
      statements like yours,which appear to be bigoted and[seemingly]
      WILLFULLY ignorant. However,I try to counter my anger by giving
      anyone the “benefit of the doubt”. I try to be understanding,
      compassionate,and if possible,sympathetic.Unfortunately hatred
      like that you’ve expressed brings out the worst in me:It is
      impossible for me not to see you as the ignorant redneck that you
      so obviously are.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 10:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Candice Marie Sweet: WOW!,
      Candice Marie Sweet!!!well said !
      THANKS!

      Jul 31, 2012 at 10:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Randall Reynolds
      Randall Reynolds

      Too bad God doesn’t exist.

      Jul 31, 2012 at 10:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tim
      Tim

      weird how AIDS and HIV is also being associated with the lesbian community. It is true you do see lesbians marching hand in hand and supporting gay men through and through but they don’t really get it as often as gay men. Maybe the bisexual women do. Not sure. Just an observation. Always wondered if there were a disease that targeted mostly lesbians would gay men be as supportive as lesbians are when standing up to fight against AIDS. I’d like to think so but who knows. When it comes to who has the bigger heart and who is more compassionate sorry boys, I go with the lesbians all the way.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 12:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ignorance is Bliss
      Ignorance is Bliss

      What really amuses me is this “one man, one woman” crap the bible thumpers keep spouting off about. Moses had 2 wives, Abraham 3, King David 18+, hmmm, guess they haven’t read their bible very well.
      Oh, and divorce is a huge no-no unless the married woman was unclean or committed adultery.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 12:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ruhlmann
      Ruhlmann

      @Kevin: You’re correct of course Kevin it’s just sometimes we want to spit back. Kudos to you for supporting your daughter and grandson.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 2:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr-DJ
      Mr-DJ

      TO: Carole and Bill Moore,

      So “God invented AIDS to punish Gays”? and what did he invent heart attacks for? And what did he invent diabetes for? And I could go on, but I have more important comments.

      You are pretty small minded to not consider all God’s children in your statistics. In the entire world, the majority of all AIDS cases have been with heterosexuals, always. In fact it started with heterosexuals in Africa.

      And finally, I am a Christian, but I cannot say “fellow” Christian because Carole & Bill Moore obviously worship that false God created by the Republicans & Teabillys in their own image.

      Oh, one last thing. Gay women don’t even get AIDS unless they contract it from a heterosexual through a blood transfusion. And I say from a heterosexual (such as yourself) because Gay men aren’t allowed to donate blood in the first place.

      Your ‘camp for kids’ should be shut down because you are obviously a bad influence on them, and you DO NOT set a good Christian example based upon your attitudes and writings.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 3:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      I’m sick of Christians. Really, I am. This shit just keeps coming out of the woodwork, and I am sure there is more to come. Ban religion.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 11:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shannon1981
      Shannon1981

      Know where the bible came from? I’ll tell you. I did 3 1/2 years of research into religion and into the history of it with regards to the world as I was leaving it. This is just ONE piece of truth that suggests it’s all a lie.

      In 325 AD Roman Emperor Constantine told his scribe Eusebeus
      to gather religious texts from the four corners of the Roman Empire. At that
      time the empire stretched from what would later be call Great Britain to Asia.
      There were dozens of religions other than Christianity, and already dozens of
      variations of the Christian Religion even though the Christians represented a
      very small segment of the empire.

      The King James version of the New Testament was completed in
      1611 by 8 members of the Church of England. At that time there were no original
      texts to translate. Even now the oldest manuscripts we have were written
      hundreds of years after the last apostle died. There are 8000 of these old
      manuscripts and no two are alike. The King James translators used none of these
      anyway, what they did was edited previous translations to create a version
      their king would approve of.

      So 21st century Christians believe the “word of
      God” is a book edited in the 17th century of 16th century
      translations of 8000 contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls from
      numerous “Christian” sects that were claimed to be copies of 1st
      century letters of already dead apostles.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 11:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blah, Blah...huh?
      Blah, Blah...huh?

      It’s a good question, how can a man be a man when he’s being bitch made by a psychotic church lady who takes pride in staying sadistically out of touch with him whether gay or straight? To her it’s so simple, a simple skill she employs when she scowls at daddy to manipulate him into her high maintenance histrionics. But big swinging dick Christian Dad’s going to help? Wanna bet?

      This marketing-of-Jesus culture for the insane is heating up as it only could when the truth of their “project” is revealed. If all faith is bad faith, as they have so ably proven, WTF are you turds saying again? There has never been such a blatant case of parasitism in the US as this culture war perspective they’ve been so good to bless us with. Staying a 68 year old little greedy child is so cool though….You get to be a total heavyweight burden and still have a platform, as is “natural” in false American God’s law.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Joe Joe: Joe Joe,
      I’ve already spent (WASTED might be a more accurate word)
      a great deal of time responding to your messages.
      HOWEVER:
      After re-reading the comments on this this post,and reading
      your reply(comment #41) to my first response to you,I have more
      questions,more comments,Joe Joe. You wrote,”I said ‘most’
      because unlike you i don’t deny they have people who hate gays,..”
      …” QUESTION 1):WHAT do you mean by “unlike you i don’t deny..”?
      ????!!?? Do YOU KNOW ME? Do I know you? [Answer:NO………
      Other than on this comments page,we have never,to my knowledge,
      met.]
      QUESTION 2): WHEN? WHERE? HOW? Did I deny “they have people
      who hate gays,”?????? [Answers: NEVER,NOWHERE, I did NOT,Here,
      or ANYWHERE. Can YOU,Joe Joe, UNDERSTAND that?
      “but it’s a fact that a lot of hatred of gays comes from
      ‘gay fatigue’ we are tired of you forcing your views and
      lifestyle on us,ask me 3 years ago i was apathetic towards gays”
      QUESTIONS 3,4,5,6):
      QUESTION 3:WHO has forced “your views and lifestyle on ‘us’?
      QUESTION 4:Who is “us’?
      QUESTION 5:[A BIT REPETITIVE OF QUESTION 3]WHO is,or are “YOU”????
      QUESTION 6:WHAT “views and lifestyle” are “we” “forced on” you?
      HOW????????
      FINAL QUESTION (7):QUESTION 7:WHY ARE YOU, Joe Joe, WRITING ON A
      GLBT Web site?
      on ‘us’?
      on us

      Aug 1, 2012 at 1:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Blah, Blah…huh?: Blah,Blah,Blah:
      1):Is your comment supposed to be comprehensible?
      2):Are you insane?
      3):If you are insane,is your statement supposed to be
      understandable despite that? Does the insanity add VALUE
      to your expression?(Maybe you’re another Antonin Artaud!)

      Aug 1, 2012 at 2:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr-DJ
      Mr-DJ

      @Joe Joe: I’m sorry but for fear of sounding like a child at this point, the heteros started it. We Gays were just going about life, and you keep attacking us. If you straights keep telling us we already have equal rights, then leave us the frack alone, and stop trying to take those rights away. THAT is hateful. What are you even here commenting for in the first place?

      Aug 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • megan
      megan

      hay you kids can be a lot worse than being gay. like a murder a psycho path or rapist.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Schlukitz
      Schlukitz

      @Joe Joe:

      Umm…Joe Joe…if you are suffering from “gay fatigue”, then why do you insist on coming to a known gay site and posting your homophobic comments?

      I don’t go to straight bars to make anti-heterosexual comments and I don’t attend Church just for the purpose of vilifying Christians.

      If thyne eye offend the, pluck it out.

      Aug 1, 2012 at 9:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeanne Muir
      Jeanne Muir

      Most innkeepers I know were just as horrified by this woman’s remarks as many of you; please do not classify us all as bigoted and unwelcoming to the LBGT community. Our industry association has issued a news release condemning the hate speech: https://innkeeping.site-ym.com/news/99186/Innkeeping-Association-Condemns-Innkeepers-Facebook-Rant.htm. She is one person, not representative of B&B owners at all.

      Aug 3, 2012 at 9:40 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blah, Blah...huh?
      Blah, Blah...huh?

      @bill(Guillermo3): What an idiotic line of questioning. If you’re satirizing my post, you should refer to it and not the voices in your own head since we can’t hear those. Get it? That’s why you can’t make sense of things you read, Bill. Your trolls’ wish to talk sh*t and harass have hamstrung you like the lady in the article.

      Aug 3, 2012 at 11:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Blah, Blah…huh?: For better,
      or worse,Blah, Blah…huh?(please alter your tag to be more
      accurately descriptive:How about “Blah,Blah…duh?”?)I can’t
      find that particular whacked post of yours.
      However,no,my response was not satirical,just irritated at
      the meandering insanity of yours.
      To concur with the advice of another recent commentator on
      your posts,please get a life.Stop wasting your and our time.
      Get it,Blah, Blah?

      Aug 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blah, Blah...huh?
      Blah, Blah...huh?

      Nice that you’re irritated. Some people figure it out sooner or later…In fact most people know that you get irritated when you troll sites with your unreadable non-sense during an election season. You need meds. Quit projecting on people in this thread and get some.

      Aug 3, 2012 at 5:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @Blah, Blah…huh?: WOW, Blah, Blah..huh?
      huh?(aka:Duh?),Thanks for the advice!!!! Please tell me which
      meds you use.That would be helpful,so that I can avoid wasting my
      resources on prescriptions that obviously don’t work.

      Aug 3, 2012 at 6:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • stopgaysandhomos
      stopgaysandhomos

      @Candice Marie Sweet: It’s funsnowfall under new ID. Have had audacity to ask Mike Tyson about bite fight to face. Sex changes must be made a crime and transexuals are worse than homos. Gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are comparable to drug junkyism and drugs are gay. Pro-abortion if it can b predicted an unborn baby will be homosexual, lesbian or transexual. Aborting gays, lesbians and transxuals is comparable to aborting unborn retards.

      Aug 17, 2012 at 9:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bill(Guillermo3)
      bill(Guillermo3)

      @stopgaysandhomos: It’s a Shame,
      stopgaysandhomos!Your remarks were just as hateful and idiotic,
      but funsnowfall was a much more entertaining name!
      Anyway,sexual orientation of the unborn probably can’t be
      determined,but being acephalic can.Since you approve of abortion
      of unborn retards,you must regret that your mother missed her
      chance.

      Aug 18, 2012 at 3:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • stopgaysandhomos
      stopgaysandhomos

      @bill(Guillermo3): Bill (Guillermo) being bigoted against homosexual/lesbian sexual behaviors is same as being ‘bigoted’ against drug junkyism. DRUGS ARE GAY. Transexuals are worse than homos, so delete them 1st. In future, they maybe able to predict unborn baby will do gay/lesbian activities. If you’re pro-choice on abortion, then don’t complain about my pro-abort the homosexuals, lesbians and transexuals. World is better w/o gay & lesbian behaviors & world is better place without sex change maimings. Finally Bill it’s predictable you’d say any who are against homo/lesbian activities must be repressed gay. Guess that means I must be repressed junky because I oppose drug junkyism. Again, drugs are gay just like METHEW Wayne Shepard.

      Aug 19, 2012 at 5:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Guillermo3
      Guillermo3

      @stopgaysandhomos: I’ve wasted a tremendous amount of time responding to you,stopgaysandhomos, but seeing this particular screed again,by itself,has me writing again:
      1):You may be an ex,or closet junkie,for all I know,and,obviously,I can’t know that.I do know,as fact,not rumor,that frequently people [like yourself0 who express anger & hatred against homosexuals are in fact,struggling with their own sexuality.WHY ARE YOU SO WORKED-UP ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ?
      2):You’ve never responded to my question about why brainless morons like yourself shouldn’t be abated,or euthanized:Were your parents simply negligent?
      3)Please learn how to spell the name Matthew.
      Thanks.

      Aug 19, 2012 at 8:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • stopgaysandhomos
      stopgaysandhomos

      @Guillermo3: Guillermo3, to answer your 3 points.

      1): It’s no surprise you’d speculate I’m a repressed homosexual. No, I’ve never used drugs sow discard ex or closet junky. But to your point of repressed homosexual, it’s sexual behavior not orientation which defines as gay, straight. Sexual orientation to repeat is to me a minor point. I answered the rest of your point as well as I could minutes ago on FRC thread.

      2): Sometimes I wish I had been aborted as there’s so many bad things which happen in the world. With life, the downs people have are usually going to be stronger than the ups. If I had been aborted, I wouldn’t have to see the bad which there is in this world, though there’s alot of nice things in the world. So if I had been aborted or never been born, it wouldn’t have bothered me.

      3) I know it’s spelled Matthew but I call him Methew because he had mixed Ecstasy (a Meth) with anti-depressants.

      Finally, as you can see, I’m a nice homophobe.

      Aug 20, 2012 at 8:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Candice Marie Sweet
      Candice Marie Sweet

      Again… @stopgaysandhomos – or @funsnowfall – whatever name you have decided to hide behind now. My challenge is out there, come to Palm Springs and start your elimination of Trans with me….

      But seriously, if I have an elective (plastic surgery) procedure to please myself and by NO MEANS, ANY ONE ELSE! What The FK difference does my life do to yours? Hmmmm??????

      You know my name, my REAL LEGAL NAME and the City in which I reside. I am well known here, ask around, it shouldn’t be hard to find me, I’ll be the 6’2″ (6’7″ in heels) Gender Queer Freak that you are going to prove to the rest of the world to, what a ‘Man’ you are (okay okay y’all…. don’t laugh too hard….)
      Personally, I can’t wait! I have room on my headboard for your “notch”… just waiting!

      Honestly, the truth is, H8rs have plagued the world since its inception.
      And “we” have been fighting ever since…. I dare say, “we” have centuries of experience that has been handed down, how about you @stopgaysandhomos @funsnowfall ??

      Aug 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Guillermo3
      Guillermo3

      @Joe Joe:(Blelated response to
      comment # 34)Why do you say most
      of the hate is coming from the gay “community”[I question whether
      there really is one],Joe Joe? Please try reading all the comments,
      particularly yours and funsnowfall’s/stopgaysandhomos’.

      Aug 24, 2012 at 1:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Guillermo3
      Guillermo3

      @Candice Marie Sweet: You tell
      ‘em sister (or brother?Sorry,I should be,but from your posts,
      I’m not 100% clear which_not that it matters)The little FRC
      freak has said he hates because he hates and doesn’t need any
      justification.My question is:Why do people like that post on
      sites like this?Are they just bored teenagers?

      Aug 24, 2012 at 2:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Guillermo3
      Guillermo3

      @Rodney Wollam: Rodney Wollam,
      I have to admit I don’t fully understand your comment,since
      it’s not addressed to anyone,but I love your sarcasm!

      Aug 24, 2012 at 2:12 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Guillermo3
      Guillermo3

      @stopgaysandhomos: Re-reading this
      comment,stopgaysandhomos ,I have 2 questions:
      ?1:Since you say that orientation doesn’t make one gay,but
      homosexual activities(I assume you mean sex) do}Should we infer
      that your orientation is gay,but that you don;t act on that?
      Honestly:I hope not,because that kind of “chastity” won’t change
      you,but it can lead to terrible frustration and a waste of a big
      part of your life.
      ?2: You said you “answered the rest of your point[sic]…on FRC
      thread”. Why would you waste time posting anything with those
      neo-fascists?!?
      Finally,based on your numerous hateful remarks about gays and
      trans people + your tag:No,I DO NOT SEE THAT YOU ARE A
      NICE HOMOPHOBE.

      Aug 24, 2012 at 2:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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