Lady Gaga’s ‘Born This Way’ Tells Gay Kids They Can’t Change Their Sexuality
Here you are walking through life thinking Lady Gaga’s “Born This Way” is a celebration of all our differences when the song is, in fact, damning us to the realities we were born with and recommending that we don’t try to improve anything about ourselves. Like our gayness!
Jeff Johnston, Focus on the Family’s resident homosexuality analyst (yes really), thinks Gaga’s new single “makes you seem stuck.” See, Gaga sings a line about being proud of the way god made you — “There’s nothin’ wrong with lovin’ who you are ‘cause He made you perfect, babe. So hold your head up, girl and you you’ll go far, listen to me when I say ‘I’m beautiful in my way, ‘cause God makes no mistakes. I’m on the right track, baby I was born this way” — but really, that’s just “bad theology,” insists Johnston, a recovering gay.
“When I was a young adult, this message would have taken away any sense of hope,” continues Johnston. And his boss Jim Daly, president of FOTF, goes one step further and fingers Lady Gaga as a hypocrite: “Lady Gaga was clearly not born this way. She’s a self-manufactured pop star! “She’s built her entire persona and celebrity on a platform that’s anything but typical. She is playing a part, a role, and not living as she would outside the bright lights.”
We don’t have to be born sinners, insists Daly: “Each of us can be set free – from homosexuality, or heterosexual sex outside of marriage, or pornography, or greed, or gossip, or any other human shortcoming – to be the men and women God intended us to be.” For instance, adult bigots.
Focus on the Family was founded by James Dobson, whom many people are certain is a closeted homosexual himself. You just KNOW those alleged “ex-gays” all have big ol’ stashes of gay porn hidden away someplace. There is not one scientifically-proven case of anyone changing sexual orientation in the history of the world. Such a change COULD be scientifically proven, but it never has been… because it is impossible.
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Kinsey wrote about the fluidity of sexuality and how it is constructed as a continuum rather than a binary. This man is talking about making a conscious effort to change one’s sexuality in an attempt to live up to a (frankly, bullshit) moral code. Not quite the same thing- just because sexuality shifts doesn’t mean one can (or should) shift it.
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But what, exactly, is change?
After all, when Kinsey said that sexuality can be fluid for some, he was writing about in immutable characteristic of those in the middle of his “Kinsey scale”. That they could (and likely would, given half the chance) change their sexual orientation through life was as an intrinsic and unchangeable property of their natures as the fixed sexual orientation of those on the ends of his scale.
If, as University of Michigan’s Shelley Batts would have us believe, “The brain is the physical manifestation of the personality and sense of self and focal damage to brain areas can result in focal changes in behavior and personality while leaving other aspects of the self unchanged.” then Stefani is basically right: Short of drastic injury or trauma we’re all born a certain way.
(And sorry to burst Mr. Johnston’s bubble, but off stage and out of the limelight, Stefani really believes that when it comes to the love of certain things, be it music, math, languages, or cooking or all sorts of things; People are born with certain intrinsic gifts and passions. And it’s up to us to set aside prejudice and create opportunity, to build a just world in which all those manyfold passions can be nurtured until they flower for the betterment of all. Two of her own passions just happen to be music and performance art – and she’s having a blast pursuing them.)
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I’m sorry, what exactly is a “recovering gay”? That makes it sound like he has the flu. I guess it’s tied into the type of person who would take a song with a great message and twist it to make it the exact opposite of what the singer/songwriter intended. Yeeeesh. *rolleyes*
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I thinks its great that lady Gaga is taking a stand for the ‘Mos out there. not only lady gaga, but pink has been making a lot of songs focused on sexuality and equality.
why has queerty made so many posts hating on lady gaga? i don’t know. maybe it is a failed attempt at making posts seem more “controversial” either way its stupid.
I love you lady gaga :)
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Thanks Lady gaga,
I am NOT STRAIGHT & NOT ACTING just a regular gay man totally accepting my sexuality & proud to be gay – http://www.ManPals.com/
Cheers
Roberto
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Nate,
Oh, please, give me a break. Both Pink and Lady Gaga are pop singers who have been manufactured by men with a strategy. The strategy is to play up the girl-girl (to appeal to sleazy straight guys) but not the guy-guy (to avoid offending those same straight guys). It’s a cynical marketing strategy built on homophobia.
The promotion of girl-girl by these marketing men does not reflect genuine acceptance of homosexuality. Instead, it reflects a phony acceptance based on titillating the very same men who utter “ewwww” when they see two men kiss.
The mere fact that no male singer has been promoted as bisexual is proof positive that there is a cynical marketing strategy in the music industry which is designed to promoted females as bisexual, men as strictly straight. I’m fucking sick of it.
And I’m fucking sick of the females who go along with it.
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@jason: How are Lady Gaga and Pink supposed to play up male-male sex? I believe they are both women.
Nate is right. these two performers could talk about NASCAR or sea turtles. Instead they lend their name and fame to gay civil rights. I don’t know how anyone can have a problem with that.
I agree with you 1000 per cent that most of the girl on girl stuff is designed to appeal to breeders. But that isn’t the point here.
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In a lot of ways, ironically, I agree with Focus on the Family on this. GaGA should have found another way to celebrate everyone without saying people are born a certain way. People are not born racist are they? Are people born gay? WHO CARES. We don’t need to feed into this genetic argument – it could come back to haunt us. Sexuality and gender expression can be fluid – that’s a fact, and it’s okay if it is fluid. Finally – GaGa should have known better than to say Chola and Orient, and the gay community should have rejected this song on those grounds.
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Oh, Jason — thanks! The scales have fallen from my eyes! I had no IDEA female sexuality was exploited in pop music…or advertising…or Hollywood…or everygoddamnwhere. PROTIP: We know.
Two additional points I’d like to make:
1) Gaga is not a male-created product. She’s self-determining.
2) Adam Lambert.
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@Mark Synder: “Orient” and “Oriental” are un-PC words in American English, not necessarily in British English. Gaga is an English musician, not a GLAAD watchdog.
Hating on Gaga because she didn’t use the right word is too easy. It’s a shame she didn’t get the same Queer Studies diploma you did. Which of course makes her an enemý, right?
@jason: You’re confusing advocacy and identity again. Gaga’s advocacy is based on her world view, not on “sleazy, straight men” or her “long, flowing hair” or self-proclaimed bisexuality. Cyndi Lauper has been an ally as well, despite her short hair and lack of appeal to most str8 dudes’ fantasies. Get some help, you seem to be going off the deep end again.
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@Mark Snyder: “Sexuality and gender expression can be fluid – that’s a fact, and it’s okay if it is fluid.”
I wonder why aversion therapy doesn’t work.
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This all assumes that gay is merely psychological rather than having a likely biological complex to it. The same is true of all sexuality. Denial of one’s biological nature is not recovering from it. No more than one can recover from being born black.
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And they’re forced to support mediocre straight singers….
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“I’m on the right track, baby”
This lyric alone implies a journey, a direction and a not-yet-fully-formed purpose. This is not a song about biological determinism but about individual worth. No one is damned to any reality other than that of their own uniqueness. You weren’t born “something else” – you’re you. Now do something about it.
It is also pretty useless to rant against an artist’s own bisexual representations – do you want someone telling you what you can and can’t represent?
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I have mixed feelings on Gaga but Jason’s not wrong. Gaga only made it on radio by being an industry insider since day one. Not diminishing her hard work over the years, but going from bubble suits and creative bloody Paparazzi performances to living in a bikini 24/7?
She can claim bisexuality all she wants but she’s on record saying she’s never been in love with a woman and will marry a man. If you define bi as experimenting and having recreational sex or fantasies about/with your own gender, fine. That will increase the reported number of LGBTQ percentage of people in the US population from 10% to what? About 50% LOL
Meanwhile, her long term affiliations with the hip hop insiders, and her start in NY clubs as an undressed pop burlesque performer show that she knows where the coin comes from. But whatever.
Nice of her to broaden her act to pick up some of that gay money. I don’t think she’s disingenuous in her advocacy. But no doubt in my mind institutional homophobia has never been an issue for her until it became convenient AND the community embraced her as a “future icon”. I can’t see myself spending 5 minutes with anyone from Def Jam etc, let alone be on their label. The difference is having fame as a priority. And as Jason continues to point out, that fame does not easily include male LGBTQ entertainers unless they’re the target of a punchline.
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@Tim:
Exactly! Lady Gaga and Christina Aguilera do not make videos with gays. They just humiliate gay/bi guys.
Btw, ordinary non-conformist woman enjoys male-male sexuality.
Kylie Minouge is a REAL GAY ICON. She is our sun, she is our star!
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I have to agree w Nate and Justice on this one, Gaga has done more for civil rights for gays in general and makes that an integral part of her career. She doesn’t seem to be a man-ufactured product but a self made legend oozing authenticity. I don’t see any wiggle room on her stainless reputation which supports kids and adults alike during tough times, I’d like to see it stay that way.
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Gaga and Pink, both have songs encouraging kids to embrace their ‘god-given’ talents and abilities…
Yes, Gaga sings about the spectrum of sexuality, & she sings about race… The message is, don’t look for outside approval of who you are; same for Pink.
It really galls me that people are too stupid to understand that, particularly among gay people. Grow up, already… Every-f’n-thing isn’t ALL about you.
The overall message of these performers is very positive for young people. Whatever quibbles you have, don’t ever forget that.
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@Maxim Abramovich Campbellov: Humililation is to be bisexual russian guy who has keyboard who only cannot use cyrillic alphabet! You lesbian lebanese busturd licking turds from the porn ass of jason! Halperidol is the haze of your life! Is important to keep sleazy straight domination guys from imposing doubled standards on world of many bisex men. No more fake sexuality of women, only need now many porns with male male sexuality and no more long, flowing haired false Gaga lesbians. Cynep!
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@Peter: you are lesbian capitalist imposer of double standards. I will prepare for you, GagaLady and also the Christina a brunch of many cholesterols: cheeze whiz, bacons, eggs, half & half cream, to produce fake lesbian quiche with store-bought pie crust. Myocardial infarction will beset the cardiovascular system, so non-fake sexuality women can arise to create good musics about attractive male-male action.
@Melanie: you sound sort of hawt. Do you resemble Kelly Ripa by any chance? Or her husband Mark Consuelo (or however that’s spelled).
@Tim: +1.
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@jason:
Look here Mr; yes there may be a marketing strategy behind the girl on girl action in fact I don’t doubt it at all… But that is NOT why I am saying they are both pro gay marriage and equality…. If you look into it NOT ONLY does lady gaga have a “it gets better” video on her YouTube account but there is ALSO a video of her calling her senator to ask him or her to VOTE NO ON PROP 8!
So please honey, do some research before you try to make an argument that lady gaga is pro-gay in all the wrong ways…
And for p!nk… Her latest and greatest “fucking perfect” was specifically made to support people being who they are.
So again; yes they may do some girl on girl stuff…but that is not why I say they are allies.
@Max Campbell:
Please read what I wrote to Jason… That is why lady gaga and P!NK are both allies…and male on male action….why should they put that in their music videos? Girls do not nearly have the sex drive men do therefor it would not be a big turn on for them and possibly be a turn off to the bigot homophobes watching the videos…and it is not what they do in there music videos that make a huge difference…it is what they do to support us that matters and they have both done plenty.
~Nate
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Funny how someone like Lady Gaga tries to do something positve for teh Qeuers and all we can do is criticize her, her music, her motivations.
Kind of makes ya wonder why more musicians don’t try embracing us, doesn’t it?
@Just Ice on the Rocks: Yes, hung like very fortunate donkey. This specific unit is source of a large jealousy by all bisex, heterosex and gaysex men plus majority of butch lesbiens. Gerda & Melanie now sending e-messages asking please to see fotos but i resist for sake of proper ettiquette and waiting on bisex malemale p0rn career with no females in attendence. Participations of women in bisex porn create difficulty situation for male-male sexuality.
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@Nate: Nate: Jason and Max and Gerda and Peter and Melanie and Boris and Natasha and god knows how many other posters are all the same person. He/she/it/they think woman on woman porn is responsible for global warming, the nuclear reactor disaster in Japan, lung cancer, and the NFL player lockout. If you drink enough it might make sense.
I am a craptroll and Jeffree is a donkey, who may or may not be hung like one.
Does that clear it up?
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@Soupy: Impressive work, there, amigo.
I personally regard myself every day in mirror to be sure I am not a lesbian engaging in false female sexuality. And I remove all p0rns containing females in them to encouragize the industry for making of more male-male images. You must also do same things.
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What machos fear? Sexism and homophobia as a fragile masculinity.
Nobody likes gays in the conservative society. Even now the bigger part of the society seriously discuss wether they need to be cured. Women are also infringed: in our seemingly advanced times, we still can hear that the “weaker gender” is less intelligent and self-controled than men.
Heterosexual men have much more tolerance to female bisexuality compare to men’s one. Sometimes they even encourage it. Heterosexual men find pseudo-lesbian porno quite attractive, which makes it popular, while at site of the love between two men, they start screaming like hell.
Have anybody ever wondered what are the reasons?
Let’s start from the genuine belief of a lot of psychologists and sexologists. They believe that every person regardless of gender is potentially bisexual.
Anonymous surveys show that many men have homoerotic desires. Sex therapist and sociologist A. Kinsey in his study found that 48% of men are more or less attracted to people of the same gender. However, the patriarchal macho ethic forces to transform this homosexual desire (natural for many men) to hostility toward the source of temptation.
In pre-Christian world men have found a male body and same-sex love very attractive. But later Abrahamic religions proclaimed patriarchy and heterosexuality, replacing homoeroticism with homophobia.
Discussing modern men we’ll try to find out what is the reason of such a behavior and abovementioned double standards.
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Clich?s in the culture
The Virgin Mary gave birth to a baby, while remaining a virgin.
“Disgrace, shame” those words are usually used to describe girls defloration; even if she did it voluntarily with the loved one. “If you lay down with him before marriage, he’ll reject you he’ll despise you because you’ve become a fallen woman, an adulteress.”
Victorian ladies were supposed to be frigid in bed, because a respectable woman can not obtain any pleasure from such an “abomination”. Nobody can like sex. It exists for procreation only. Sex is shameful and “dirty.”
Sex is a fee for a marriage, a nuisance that must be endured. Even now we can hear this “wise” sentence “a man is paying for sex by marriage, a woman is paying for marriage by sex.” Thankfully this “folk wisdom” is losing its relevance.
Here’s another awfull stereotype saying that “A macho has a lot of girls but a whore has a lot of men”. “Decent woman” suppose to consider sex not as a pleasure and a given, but as an unpleasant necessity. Therefore it suppose to be with as fewer men as possible. Ideally – only with the husband.
This medieval women’s attitude to sex is based on the gender inequality. A majority of men is in the positions of power in the family and in the society. Thus they had sex with women as the leaders and masters of the life.
In the absence of contraception in the old days penetrative sex usually leaded to the birth of children. There was no notion of safe sex and to avoid an unwanted pregnancy women had to use abstinence. Sex used to bring real and serious not even a bit imaginary problems. In generations casual sex was strictly forbidden for women in order to avoid unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. Those were the major cause of infertility or failure to give birth to a healthy baby because medicine was not advanced. Thus, sex becomes very dubious pleasure, given the possible unpleasant consequences.
It seems that these stereotypes and fears of a penetrating, ie, passive sex are virtually eliminated. However, this is not the case, and anybody can verify it by detailed analysis of such issue as homophobia.
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There are a lot of men who hates and despises gays among those men who position themselves as a heterosexual. They are claiming to observe the “laws of real men” but in reality are engaged in a gay sex in a rigorous secrecy. They are afraid of society that does not approve.
Subconsciously, a man believes that penetrative sex and been a passive receptor in sex is indecent, defamatory to his honor and is questioning the masculinity. This stereotype is alive and thriving in our culture. Just try to imagine what it really means. Women have their honor between their legs, and men’s honor is deep inside the ass. Isn’t it funny?
In heterosexual intercourse woman is a passive receptor of a penetrative sex. This is the option justified by physiology.
Penetrative sex is humiliating for men. Been passive receptor leads for a man to become a “women”. It changes man in different ways behaviorally, symbolically, and so on. In the modern culture of education it is considered unacceptable and offensive psychological factor. It is taught from childhood. The expressions “Why are you crying like a girl?” “Are you sissy?” indicate that the boy should not behave like a girl and a man should not behave like a woman. “You behave womanly”. This statement is an insult to the adult male.
Oral sex is much more humiliating than vaginal. Why? The contact between “clean” part of human body i.e. lips with the dirty parts i.e. genitals, symbolizes the maximum insult in a patriarchal culture.
Everybody knows about phallic worship. The main idea is that whoever’s “using” the penis or having it is superior to others. In other words, the one who uses penis is the leader and whoever accepts it is led. Penis has a long history of association with a sword, weapon that is used by the owner for striking and wining his victim by penetration.
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Penetrative sex is considered as a “victory” by dominative male and is recognized as a “victory” by receptor.
For example, in the penitentiaries, in the absence of women there is a sex between men. Those who play an exceptive role in sex are “the lowly”. Do you know why? It’s simple just because penetrative sex demeans the host.
During the process of making a person “low” homosexual act is optional. According to prison “rules”, one is lowered as soon as the penis touches his buttocks or lips. What is the touching of “lowered”’s lips or buttocks by the penis of another man? They are elements of gay sex. In those guys views when a man gets “fucked” it is humiliating. Obviously there is a “fucked” man in gay sex. The bottom becomes a “second class”. He’ considered an equivalent to a woman. Symbolically he is “defeated”. Oral sex is humiliating as well as any other penetrative sex. Any hint on getting another man’s genitals into the mouth is offensive. Remember the often used message profanity, calling “it sucked”. During the wars rape is used sometimes to humiliate the losers.
You know what is really funny? The fact is that the chauvinists, homophobes refuse to recognize these facts and argue that they simply can not tolerate “perversion.” According to them perversion is a sex, during which conception is impossible, which is contrary to religion and adversely affect the demographics. Amusingly, those same men like to watch lesbian porn. Perhaps this inconsistency in views comes from the sincere disbelief that lesbians really did not need their penises. They hope to be invited but as soon as they are bitter disappointed remember the accusations in immorality, wickedness, and the reluctance to improve the demographics of a dying community.
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Women-conformist.
We need to talk separately about conformist women who knowingly or through “patriarchal” upbringing play by the rules of their male hosts. They condemn gays because are simply dependent on men and by that are hoping to earn a reputation. They have chosen this path themselves simply following the stereotypes of public morals and the myths about the “strong gender”. In some other cultures women are still willing to be in the harem where the male does not even need to assert himself. We have a slightly different model, the husband allowed to have mistresses, but if a woman is going “wrong way “it is a shame. The justification is kind of “natural”. They say, “male is polygamous and female is monogamous.” At the same time nobody mentions the sexual promiscuity. And here you have a basis for sexism.
Many women takes such a model for granted, and quite willing to consider a proposal to invite another girl, even if they do not really need or want lesbian sex. They can agree for this adventure just but because in our culture it is assumed that a “real woman” has to please the beloved one.
“Machos” and “real men” impose bisexuality on women for the sake of their own folly. The gays and bi-men continue to remain a strongly uprooted and vulgarized taboo.
Female opponents to stereotypes and double standards.
Another kind of girls is the exact opposite to the above – the girls who are opposed to stereotypes. They are among the yaoi fans, they write numerous and very popular among the Internet female-users slash and het-fiction (the description of a romantic relationship between men). Most of the girls said that male love is beautiful, kisses are sexy and here is one of the female respondents verbatim “only in the gay porn you can see really handsome men, straight porn is not intended for women, there is absolutely unattractive men there.” A lot of liberal, intelligent women openly say that they like to watch gay porn, bi porn, and that they dream about having sex with two handsome bisexual men. (The same way as heterosexual men find lesbian love attractive). However heterosexual men do not want to allow such a liberty, and therefore these girls are immediately accused in a violation of sexual identity or in unattractiveness, or in mental disorders. Nevertheless, male interest in lesbian porn is normal in all respects. It’s absolutely illogical but really handy in terms of total patriarchy.
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Summary.
For “real men” their masculinity is measured by inaccessibility to penetrative sex.
{Roughly speaking, the inaccessibility of their assholes.}
Men are hiding their homoerotic impulses deep inside and become homophobic in fear of being humiliated. Out of fear of ceasing to be men. Due to the fragile myth of masculinity that could be proved by the dominance over someone else. Homophobes do not like gays because they are afraid of them as of the temptation. As of winners.
At the same time female bisexuality is encouraged, which contributes to the emergence of double standards.
Such a position is nothing but hypocrisy. Ordinary homophobic hypocrisy, which is a direct proof that homophobia is extremely irrational phenomenon.
Contempt for women is a chauvinist and homophobic fear of penetrative sex. “Real men” are afraid of being gay, because they do not want to be “sissy” and play a bottom role. The ideology of male supremacy is sexism. And precisely because of this sexism, homophobia grows. Homophobia as a rejection of men, “having” men (ie, practicing with them penetrative sex), and those who refuse to consider it a disgrace. Fortunately modern society is gradually freed from total sexism and this gives the hope that in the near future sex between two adults of either sex will be treated as an equal partnership, and gay culture will cease to be perceived as a vice, perversion,and as phenomenon hostile for the society.
Author: Anna Frolov?
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okay let me get this strait (not a play on words)
Gerda and Peter and Melanie and Boris and Natasha are crazy russians?
max is also a russian, but also 100% lesbian hating bigot who says fuck you to children!??! lol
justiceontherocks is an awesome dude who happens to have issues with the bigotry that seems to appear on queerty way too often.
getbalance is on our side too ^-^
jeffree is a lesbian?
soupy confuses me…
and I, Nate am a teenage thug when it comes to assaulting bigots in the most verbal of ways :D
GOT IT!
In soviet Russia, TV watch you!
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@Pete n SFO: It isn’t a matter of “Every-fn-thing [being] ALL about [us]” … it’s the simple fact that these artists ARE willing to step outside of their comfort zone and stand up for what IS RIGHT (equality, acceptance, love, self-respect and the same respect by others FOR others).
I haven’t read enough of what you’ve written here (assuming you have made other comments besides this one) to know whether you’re really as shallow and closed-minded as you come across but let’s just consider this for a moment…
There are a good many LGBTQ persons who have had to suffer through a lot of sh*t during their lives, all at the hands of others. Some of that crap comes at the hands of their own families; people who “should” be able and certainly willing to look past their own insecurities and discomfort with this issue – if for no other reason than to show their LGBTQ son, daughter, uncle, aunt, etc. the love and support they SHOULD be showing them. Respect, of course comes with getting to know that person better but there isn’t a chance in hell that will happen so long as a person is unwilling to even “give their loved one a chance to demonstrate that he or she is DESERVING of” respect.
I’m only saying this because it’s refreshing when a public persona IS willing to step out and do or say something that may be interpreted as being supportive (and the right thing to do).
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@Jeffree:
Oh yes honey; I was BORN THIS WAY!
@Max Campbell:
I tried using the detect language and Russian translators on google and it just turned your random mumblings into other random mumblings just with the apostrophe moved around…so I’m going to assume that you either are trying to say “oh Nate; you are so clever and I was wrong about everything!” or you had a seizure on the keyboard when you realized you just got told by a 16 year old boy ^_^
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@Nate: Although Maxim Abramovich Campbellov claims to be “Russian,” he doesn’t apparently have access to a Cyrillic keyboard, and his transliterations of “Russian” are wrong or archaic. You’ll note that his fake Slavic syntax fades in and out and is inconsistent from post to post.
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There were some interesting comments made earlier but I find it MOST INTERESTING that the presumably youngest person commenting is actually the one showing the most maturity. (Max, you can read into that what you will. Your last couple of comments pretty much demonstrate why everybody here should just put you on “ignore” – shame there isn’t a feature on Queerty for that. LOL)
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@Chupa Chups: Wrong again Maxborisnatashachupamelaniepeter. Nate is actually Vladimir Putin, and he’s watching you very, very carefully.
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@Chupa Chups: Shut up crap troll. Go play with your thimble sized dick. Get help for your multiple-personality disorder.
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@Max Campbell: I don’t have time for you right now. I just got a hot new bi-sexual porn DVD that I must watch. Chupa Chups, Mr. Ed, Lassie and Linda Lovelace are in it. Should be great.
Remember that Nate/Vladimir is watching you.
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I just got a hot newporn DVD where stupid conformist fags eat crap of bisexual sluts! Jeffree, Soupy, justiceonthehuy, Nate, Christina, Lady Gaga are in it. Should be great.
Remember that lesbi-porno is our protection against a homophobia.
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@Max Campbell: OMG. You just took it in the ass from Mr. Ed. He said you were so loose he could barely get off. Maybe you should take a break for a week or two cowboy.
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Who is Vladimir? (other than my alter ego)
And I wouldent say I’m the most mature one here; but I feel I’m at least I seem to be at a higher IQ level than mr.maxcambell…which is cool Ive always aspired to be smarted than a Russian lunatic (maybe it IS the super moon!)
That and be in a porno with lady gaga, justice, soupy & jeffree!
And I agree I did see that video with max and I must say…it was probably like throwing a hot dog down a hallway…
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Wow, another thread takes a bizarre turn that has little to nothing to do with the subject matter.
GaGa is right. You were born this way.
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@Chupa Chups: I never said GaGa was a gay icon. But what she is trying to do for the gay community is undeniable, and I do not understand that people cannot see that. Why the lesbian hate, btw? Being a lesbian, I kind of take offense to that.
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@Shannon1981: Queerty commentators are misogynists who resent lesbians because of a perceived double standard with society’s acceptance of alternative female sexualities. It makes no sense, if you are going to blame anyone you should blame straight males.
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@Shannon1981. Trying to reason with ChupaChips is like trying to teach calculus to a goldfish.
@Soupy:@Nate: our patriotic antibisex p0rnklub growing now like beautiful garden consisted with leeks, onions, turnips. Is because fertlisers is used made of many craps from false russians & belarussians and their fake womanlike sexuality.
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@Nathan: I resent fake bisexuality because I think it serves to negate being bisexual as anything real, which is false. It most certainly is a real orientation. However, that is hardly the fault of lesbians, you are right. Its the straight dudes who want a 3some who should be blamed. I despise those piggish types, btw. I usually tell them to kindly fuck off when they approach me.
@Jeffree: I figured as much. Couldn’t hurt to try though.
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Chupa Chups (Spanish pronunciation: [?t?upa?t?ups], English: /?t??p?t??ps/) is a lollipop company founded by the Spanish Enric Bernat in 1958, and currently owned by the Dutch-Italian multinational corporation Perfetti Van Melle. The name of the brand comes from the Spanish verb chupar, meaning “to suck.”
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@Chupa Chups: I hate double standards and I rail against them. In my view, anything that hurts one group within LGBTPQIA hurts us all. End of story. If you are only going to defend your neck of the woods, don’t complain when the whole fucking forest burns down.
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If you hate double standards, you can’t support people who imposes double standards!
Lady Gaga and Christina Aguilera make their videos with guy-girl and girl-girl intimacy, but not guy-guy! It is just humiliation. Isn’t it??
And it all because porn industry influence. Porn industry teach people that guy-guy intimacy is a deviant! But many straight girls and gay/bi guys (of course) prefer gay male erotic!!! Why all makes for straight homophobic men! Stop it! Stop it conformism! If hetero-porn include lesbian scenes, they must include gay male scenes also!!!
And I dont want to support any conformists! My star, my gay icon is a Kylie Minouge!
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@Chupa Chups: you’re a nutjob. Jefree is right. Your deranged ranting deserves no more of my time. GaGa has show time and time again that she is pro gay rights. Stop thwarting that and going against people who are trying to to help us.
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The only way butt sex is going to be accepted is when str8 guys admit they are wet spottn for it. Don’t hold ur breath, they butt fuk very deep in the closet. (Cameras. Action!)
I like the idea of women getting into having 2 bi guys for a 3 way. Great way to break the mold.
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@GetBalance: LOL true.
But its funny. To write my Kradam fanfiction i watched gay male porn. I have no problem with it, even with the fact that a dick anywhere near me is a huge no no. So, its just prejudice all the way ’round, period, and either way it needs to stop. I don’t ‘get off’ on two men, but I am ok with it. More power to whatever floats your boat, i say.
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@Chupa Chups: and flagged. those kinds of inflammatory comments violate the TOS of this site.
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@Shannon1981
As w most chewawas, everything goes right over their heads, cuz they are so short. Which creates a HUGE inferiority complex. Their only defense is to bark. Who can blame them. Id do the same thing if i were that far down the food chain.
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@Tim: YEs Tim, even though I am sure that admission will just make you hate me more even thought you don’t even know me.
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@GetBalance:
I agree…chupa chups and max and Tim (all the same faux lunatic) need to be taken away… Don’t they have crazy police in fake Russia? Like a fake KGB?
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It is I,the great Skittles Troll. I have decided to honor you all with my presence.
*Tosses out bags of Skittles*
My people, my people, enjoy the rainbow. Lemon, Lime, Strawberry, Orange, and Blackcurrant. Enjoy them all. The Skittles Troll provides free bags for all. Taste my rainbow.
And now, I have a message for my people.
Back in 1776, the War was won or lost. Today, the war is won or lost.
Think on that. Meditate on that. And eat my fruity goodness.
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@Skittles Troll:
I have talked to bread that has made more sense than you…
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Jason!
The only going out to draw an analogy. Make of fantasy fancy about two handsome bisexual men. This fantasy fancy will be predominate at heterowomen place.
This have popularity right now, however nobody don’t advertise this!
Only fashion from males bisexual will libertating gays.
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Olga,
Modern women seem more interested in aligning themselves with men’s fantasies rather than striking out on their own.
As I’ve suggested time and again, modern-day permissiveness has reduced women to prostitutes. A lot of the so-called “empowered” women of today don’t seem to realize it but that is essentially what they’ve been reduced to as a result of the sexual revolution.
The sexual revolution enforced male heterosexual fantasy onto society by encouraging women to align themselves with what men want. No wonder Hugh Hefner was one of the biggest supporters of the sexual revolution!!!
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As for Lady Gaga, she has done only that which will get the gays on side and buying her records. As for visibility in her music videos, she’s basically given gay men none. Only Alejandro had intimations of male-male sexuality, and, to be perfectly honest, it was very minimal.
Lady Gaga, Britney Spears etc are all controlled by basically the same marketing team. Their aim is to play up the concept of female-female sexuality in order to appeal to sleazy straight guys. It’s highly disrespectful to the GLBT community in my view, primarily because it’s fake and because the target audience is not those who believe in GLBT rights.
I’d prefer to see a male bisexual artist who is allowed to use the concept of male bisexuality in his videos and overall image. Only then will it indicate genuine acceptance. I have yet to see any such male bisexual artists come out of America, so-called land of the free and home of the brave.
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Since all the anti-gay commenters I’ve seen believe they’re on a path to Heaven, wherever and whatever that may be, and that us gays won’t be going there, it makes me glad to be gay, and thus avoid their sneering and entirely objectionable company for all eternity.
It’s worth bearing in mind though, that a Google search reveals there are over 34,000 different denominations of Christianity, so you can window shop a sect that suits your particular prejudices, and your budget. There is no official global Chrsitian position against homosexuaity. Indeed, some denominations already welcome LGBT parishioners with open arms, open hearts, and open minds – including the ordination of openly gay and lesbian cliergy.
Another reason there can never be an official Christian position against homosexuals and homosexuaity is that Jesus Christ never took a position against it. He did however rail against religious fundamentalists of the day, the Sadducees and the Pharisees, calling tem “hypocrites” and “a brood of vipers”.
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@Chupa Chups:
@Olga:
@Peter:
@Tim:
@Max Campbell:
You sir; are not only an annoying five faced bigot but your also ignorant. I have tried to explain why their is not “male erotic” in a guys music videos but you refuse to listen… Not everyone is for gay rights…it’s sad but it’s true.
And not everyone wants us flaunting our sexuality in their faces just like we don’t appreciate them flaunting theirs in ours… It makes sence… You just have to evolve from your faux-Russian-skitzo form first.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....az_Marhoni
This is Islam.
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@Chupa Chups: Regarding your comment to Nate, in which you said the following (and I quote)
>>>>> beginning of quote <<<<>>>> ending of quote <<<<<
Chupa, you are one sad, sad fuck… This thread lost any semblance to a thread worth following some time ago. However, I do still get notifications when comments are made and yours, asshole, are really really annoying.
You've got nothing but personal insults to throw around, saying "FUCK YOU" to Nate (who is a very dear friend of mine). Personally speaking, I've always supported a woman's right to do with her body what she wishes but I've never been really fond of the idea of abortion unless it's absolutely necessary. In YOUR case, I'd have made an exception. You, sir, should have been aborted long before you polluted this world with your nasty-ass comments.
Get over yourself! Everybody has differences of opinion and the truth of the matter is that more than a few of us, I think, suspect you are posting under a number of different ID's. What, you can't make even one point that can stand on its own merits so you have to create multiple personalities (which is probably a reality for you IRL, as well you dumbshit) to try and make it appear that others agree with you?
Fuck off, yourself.
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Well, that was interesting (the quote didn’t show up). Whatever, anyone following Chupa Chups sad, asinine comments on here will be able to readily identify the comment he made to Nate, to which I’m responding here. Chupa, why don’t you do all of us a favor now and go douche with a bottle of draino.
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Amazing to watch Jason talk with his own sockpuppets. Thats what psýchotïc people do: they hear voices in their head; except now Maksima Abamovna Campbelleva has taken on his own sockpuppets too.
No wonder so many of the best commenters on here have left the blog. There’s only so much fake Russian they
can handle !
@Shannon1981: You are a rockstar!
@Soupy: Comrades 4ever!
@N1Spirit: Thanks for instilling some sanity into the conversation
@Nate: If you’re not already doing standup comedy, you should be !
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i really dislike the way you wrote “a recovering gay.” he’s not “recovering” from anything. he’s gay and choosing to suppress his thoughts and feelings to be in line with his religious beliefs.
the better statement would have been “a self-described ‘recovering’ gay” but when you word it the way you did, it sounds as if you, JD and by extension Queerty, believe that gay is something that could be “recovered” from.