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Texas Pastor Randy Scott Arrested After Posing As Teen To Meet Guy On Craigslist For Sex

Pastor George Randall “Randy” Scott, of the Bethel Temple Assembly Of God Church in Bryan, Texas, was arrested after returning from a trip to Sweden with his wife on for allegedly pretending to be a teenager online to meet other guys and then blackmailing them into having sex. Good lord.

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The allegations arrived when a victim told police he had been lured into having sex with Scott in November after meeting him on Craiglist. The two exchanged emails — some sent from church computers — before he agreed to meet Scott, who was still posing as a 16- or 17-year-old. (He is 51.) And when Scott showed up at the victim’s house? And, you know, revealed himself to be some old dude and not the adolescent he claimed to be online? Scott said he was the step-father of the boy, who had all of “the boy’s” emails forwarded to him, and allegedly threatened the victim with calling the police unless he sexually pleasured Scott.

Chris Hansen was nowhere to be found.

Scott, who resigned after his arrest and leaves the church after 20 years, is charged with burglary of a habitation with intent to commit an assault — a second-degree felony that carries a sentence up to 20 years in prison. He told police he’s done similar things with 10 others. Something tells me that might be a low-ball estimate.

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[Ed: The original item incorrectly stated Scott was going after underage boys, and not adult men, based on a since-corrected secondary report. We've corrected the post and regret any confusion.]

By:           Ryan Tedder
On:           Aug 17, 2010
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  • 54 Comments
    • 7
      7

      What reasonable people see: church people are sick fucks.

      What the church/Fox News sees: TEH GHEYZ BE INFILTRATEN TEH HOUS O’ DA LAWD

      Aug 17, 2010 at 10:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daez
      Daez

      What an upstanding fine ole Christian boy…

      I bet the Christian right sweeps this under the rug after condemning this man as a “homosexual.”

      (This post reeks with sarcasm!)

      Aug 17, 2010 at 10:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SouLKid
      SouLKid

      The church is a place for some really sick people.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 10:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
      PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

      Who wants to take bets on the number of times he demonized the Gays as “immoral” and a danger to the overall well being of society??????????

      Aug 17, 2010 at 11:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tallskin
      Tallskin

      I feel sorry for the poor teens involved- imagine that happening to you when you were 17!!

      but what a twisted f*ck this arsehole is!

      Aug 17, 2010 at 11:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Cult schools, medical facilities and other venues where priests, pastors, imams, rabbis and other assorted parasites come in contact with children and young adults should be secularized without compensation.

      If this jackass can be arrested why won’t the feds demand the extradition of der papenfuehrer and all his priests bishops, archbishops and cardinals hiding in the vatican to avoid charges or rape and being accessories to rape?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tallskin
      Tallskin

      @Bill Perdue, indeed Bill.

      All the sky pixie religions seem to take delight in fingering small kids, fucking children. Seems to be a perk of the job which their shamans justify to themselves to compensate for all the sexual repression they have to suffer!! (thats’s me being very sarcastic by the way)

      Pakistan is riddled with child abuse in its religious schools.
      We know about the Katlick church with its kiddie fiddling.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Tallskin: I agree, but the roman cult seems to be the worst.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      Bill & Tall – You guys never let a religious post go by without saying something that implies all or most religious leaders/clerics are sexual perverts. And of course ignore all the good that churches do.

      And yes, Bill I do agree that all priests of whatever religion should be extradited to face the music.

      So tell me though, if you’re in a car wreck and they rush you to the nearest hospital and it is Catholic or Jewish, Methodist or what have you, you’ll refuse treatment, even it means you’ll die, right?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Jaroslaw – still in the cult closet?

      check this out: http://jesusneverexisted.com/

      It’ll be good therapy.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tallskin
      Tallskin

      @Bill Perdue – I think the truth about the mohammedan cult’s abuse of children is kept well hidden, and judging from the statistics when a window was briefly opened in Pakistan in 2004/5, revealed 2,000 cases in one year and 500 the next. This is just one muslim country in one year!

      That figure of 2,000 boys abused is more than the entire western world’s lamentable total of children abused in religious schools in that year, 2004!

      So, extrapolate out from that to all muslim countries and all muslim religious schools, over all the last few decades.

      Remember that to go to the police and say you have been raped in a muslim country can often result in a death sentence, so the OFFICIAL FIGURES for rape and child abuse are going to be very low.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4084951.stm

      A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.

      There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.

      That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.

      The minister’s revelations have sparked death threats and infuriated some religious political leaders.

      Mr Hussain said he had received death threats from clerics, but that he had done his job and his conscience was clear.

      Leaders angered

      The time had come for his country to face the bitter truth – the sickness of child abuse, he said.

      The allegations involving Pakistan’s Sunni majority and Shia minority referred to a tiny proportion of the country’s 10,000 or so madrassas, he said.

      He added that the body responsible for them, the Federation of Madrassas, was willing to co-operate with investigations because some clerics were bringing a bad name to Islam.

      However, the revelations have angered some Islamic leaders. At a parliamentary meeting this week, some demanded he apologise.

      The abuse revelations were made during a week in which the Pakistani government has been meeting religious leaders to build awareness of the spread of HIV/Aids.

      Pakistan is stepping up its anti-Aids campaign, and the idea is to utilise the clerics’ unique reach into communities to increase HIV/Aids awareness and to preach prevention.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Eric
      Eric

      I didn’t bother to check if anyone else caught this, but seeing how the story is still worded the way it is, I’ll post it anyways. Now, I’m not saying what he did was right, but the story you have here is wrong. He didn’t go after boys, he went after pedophiles. He would pose as a minor, and then black mail pedophiles into giving him sexual favors. Even the video you posted says, “men” within the first minute. Like I said, I’m not saying what he did was right, but your putting a much darker spin on this already tragic story. Please be more careful in the future.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mike (@tazz602)
      Mike (@tazz602)

      Just goes to show what the studies prove over and over again – most child molesters are self professed heterosexuals. Nothing new or surprising here.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Tallskin: So it’s a neck and neck race between Pakistani imami and Irish priests to see who’s the most detestable.

      How awful for the children.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tallskin
      Tallskin

      @Eric – you what???

      “He didn’t go after boys, he went after pedophiles. He would pose as a minor, and then black mail pedophiles into giving him sexual favors.”

      Are you on drugs? Have you actually read the article?

      What pedophiles are you referring to? Do you call a 17 year a pedophile because he comes onto a 16 year old???

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • pete
      pete

      @Tallskin: I think what he’s referring to is the video of this story. It does say “men”, not boys. I don’t know where Queerty got that the victim was a boy. Unless I missed something……

      Aug 17, 2010 at 12:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tallskin
      Tallskin

      @Pete, ah ok, I haven’t actually seen the video, but you’re right I can’t find any mention of the age of the “victim” in this article.

      apologies Eric.

      But is this a US thing? I mean no-one here in Europe would think a 17 year old is underage! We have an age of sexual consent at 16.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 1:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Carina
      Carina

      Ah Craigslist, the internet version of Hellmouth. This pastor needs to get the maximum sentence.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 1:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jack
      Jack

      @Eric: Plain as day in the first paragraph it says: ” pretending to be a teenager online to meet other minor boys.”

      Aug 17, 2010 at 1:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Eric
      Eric

      Yeah, it’s a US thing. The articles can be found in local bryan, Tx news sites. I knew the guy personally as a family friend for the 20 years (most of that time as a child and was never bothered in any way) he was a pastor over there and have been keeping tabs on any updates. That’s how I found this site. This whole thing was a total shock to all of us.

      As for the age, the guy who reported it said that Randy was posing as a 17 year old, but the emails actually have randy posing as a 16 year old which would be below our age of consent ( http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/08/the_reverend_randy_scott_more.php ).

      Aug 17, 2010 at 1:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jack
      Jack

      Another source:
      http://www.theeagle.com/local/Preacher-allegedly-lured-man-into-sex-act

      says the pastor posed as a 20 year old on Craigslist, then changed his age in subsequent emails.

      Move along, nothing to see. A pastor lying about his age to entrap someone, threatening to call the police in order to perform a b.j. on the person: no biggie right?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 1:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Eric
      Eric

      In the grand scheme of it all, I completely agree, it was a very wrong and sick thing he did.

      it was, however, a biggie for us to see a friend who we love and respect to suddenly go to such drastic measures instead of trying to find help with those of us who consider him family and who understand that we are imperfect people striving to overcome the parts of us that contradict the standard set before us.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 1:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RLSinSF
      RLSinSF

      @Jaroslaw, Apologist for hypocrite religious poseurs much? If I had ever seen a clergy person from the mainstream religions that wasn’t a manipulative douchebag, I might agree with you…alas, it’s never happened. (I have met a few cool Unitarian and Buddhist clergy — who, by the way, seem more attuned to a Christ-like way of life than Christians — but never one from a dominant western religion.) Religious leaders from both Christianity and Islam are in the business ($$$) of demonizing anyone that doesn’t adhere to their religion. That is their profession, their calling, and their mandate. To manipulate the weak-minded and then make money from them. To scare them into submission. (Successfully in your case, I gather.) This story isn’t at all surprising — just more of the same from a religion that is far scarier than any foreign terrorist organization. You’ve been brainwashed, Jaroslaw, and the only remedy is to open your eyes and start thinking. I won’t hold my breath.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 2:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RomanHans
      RomanHans

      Jack, you’re an idiot. You say the “pastor [lied] about his age to entrap someone.” Entrap who? A 17-year-old who wanted to have sex with a 16-year-old? You can’t entrap somebody who’s not doing anything illegal: it’s called “blackmail.”

      The pastor’s sole intent was to force somebody a third his age to have sex with him. That’s one of the most disgusting, predatorial things I’ve ever heard.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 2:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      What the fuck are you arguing about? Clearly at this point in time, all religion (with the exception of the Buddhism perhaps, which I never hear about) is clearly poison. I don’t doubt for a minute that the Muslim religion attracts just as many perverts as the Catholics & Protestants; it’s just that Muslims are so closed off from the rest of society in the West that we never hear about it. All these scandals are clearly a sign that we need to remove ourselves from the shackles of religion; Atheists & Agnostics are growing far more than converts to any religion so at least there’s that but the problem, always, is any and all religion. It’s about power (including sex) & money & nothing else and I feel sorry for you if you actually believe these charlatans trying to sell you a bill of goods about their friend in the sky.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 2:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jack
      Jack

      @RomanHans: Did you read the link I posted before reacting & calling me an idiot? You’re taking a misinterpretation of events and calling me an idiot?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 3:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RomanHans
      RomanHans

      @Jack: Yes, I did. You’re right: that story is completely misleading. So, you’re saying that, despite the fact the Eagle article raises more questions than answers, you didn’t even read Queerty’s first line, that the people you imply are pedophiles are, in fact, “minor boys”? Before you tell people to “move along,” shouldn’t you ensure that you have the remotest clue what happened?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 4:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jack
      Jack

      @RomanHans: That was irony, my move along comment. Now I see I was being too subtle about it.

      I never used the word pedophile, but I get the idea that no matter what I post to clarify, you’ll twist it around and around. Please go back and read what I actually wrote, not what you think I am implying.

      I also used the words pastor and lying right next to each other, also for ironic effect. Oh never mind…

      Aug 17, 2010 at 5:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 25 · james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge wrote, “Clearly at this point in time, all religion (with the exception of the Buddhism perhaps, which I never hear about) is clearly poison.”

      …. haven’t heard of Taoists causing any problems, nor people into Confucianism (which is a borderline case, sometimes classified as a religion). Nor the Wiccans.

      The logical error revolves around your phrase “never hear about” – the only ones you are hearing about are the ones causing the problems, which means you are trying to generalize from a biased sample.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 5:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kitty litter
      kitty litter

      One word———–Texas.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 5:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael
      Michael

      Teenagers are using Craig’s List to hook up with one another? With so many better choices, is this even possible?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 5:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      @B: It’s all built around control; control of your mind, finances and your life and it’s all designed to make the leaders (Wiccan, Catholic, political or otherwise) profit from your weakness. The understandable question of “Why am I here” gets perverted & you get used by these institutions for their own ends. We should be developed enough as a species to not take them seriously by now, shouldn’t we?

      Aug 17, 2010 at 5:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DX
      DX

      Well, if you’re religious you’ll probably say “The Lord works in mysterious ways.”

      But the secular humanist in me thinks this particular gaylord works in mysterious ways. Not that I’ve ever had a secular humanist in me.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 7:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      @B:

      Watch this video & tell me that Christians aren’t wacked out of their minds too…really watch the full 4 minutes to get the full effect.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 7:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      Oops…here’s the vid.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 7:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mike
      Mike

      Whew! I thought we’d get all the way through August without another one of these scandals. Now I can rest easy.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 10:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      #23 RLS in SF OK, I’m not going to try to change your mind either but for the benefit of the folks who are quick readers and may overlook your obvious lapses in logic – I say this

      1. You made very big and mostly incorrect judgments of me on extremely limited information contained in one very small post here.

      2. YOU never met an honest mainstream cleric? There are a great many decent ministers and priests so unless you’ve met thousands of them and had time to evaluate them thoroughly, your opinion is no better than anyone else’s.

      Aug 17, 2010 at 11:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 32 · james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge wrote, “@B: It’s all built around control; control of your mind, finances and your life and it’s all designed to make the leaders (Wiccan, Catholic, political or otherwise) profit from your weakness.”

      LOL – the Wiccans and Taoists don’t seem to profit much at all!
      They are too decentralized. See http://www.tao.org/ (had to search to even find the website): curiously, they never thought of giving a street address, a phone number, an email address, or any indication of how to make a donation. They may be wacky, but if they are trying to control anyone’s finances, they are completely incompetent. If a street address, phone number, or email address is in fact on the site, it is pretty well hidden.

      Some Wiccans are a bit more organized. See http://www.cog.org/contactcog.html#membership which will get you a newsletter for $30 per year (which would barely cover the costs of publication and mailing). Even if they are trying to “profit from your weakness” as you put it, they are doing a piss-poor job of it.

      Come back when you have some credible data to back up your claim.

      (Oh, and BTW, I haven’t given any of these groups a brass farthing, much less a dime.)

      Aug 17, 2010 at 11:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      @B: Sorry, I thought we were talking about organized religion; I didn’t know you wanted to discuss two groups that represent probably 0% of the world’s population, statistically.

      Aug 18, 2010 at 3:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RELIGION = MYTHOLOGY
      RELIGION = MYTHOLOGY

      All religions throughout time has been used to explain misunderstood phenomena as other worldly and to establish laws to keep the masses under control. We would have much less problems now if the Romans would have done the right thing and killed all the christians and jews when they had the chance.

      Aug 18, 2010 at 3:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rosli
      Rosli

      @7: Ah yes, the “he’s”, “She’s” or “they’re” gay/lesbian card. What they don’t understand is they are looking to get them hated much worse; since organized religion speaks so evil of homosexuals. It shouldn’t get them off easy from verbal punishment and possibly real punishment with the organized religious church goers. It’s nice to have the belief confirmed that organized religion refuse to take their “sin” and hypocrisy on their own. Without the need of dragging in gays and lesbians into it.

      Aug 18, 2010 at 4:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • L.
      L.

      Wow. A right-wing religious nut goes on a trip to Europe and he takes his *wife* to carry his luggage? Have they got *no* respect for traditional rentboy.com values?

      Aug 18, 2010 at 3:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joey
      Joey

      @Tallskin:

      Did YOU read the original source? The priest was posing as a minor who was luring men into sex and blackmailing them for sex after he “busted” them trying to have sex with his 17 year old alias. The original source makes no mention of the priest going after boys, that was added to this article.

      I’m not saying that this priest isn’t a hypocrite or an asshole, but it doesn’t need to be exaggerated .

      Aug 18, 2010 at 11:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joey
      Joey

      @Eric: Yeah, I don’t see anything anywhere from an original source that says he went after boys. If he did go after boys, then we should all know about it, but from looking at the original cited articles, he was luring men into sex, not boys. If the original cited article is lying or misrepresenting what happened, then we need a source that does have the facts, like a police report or another first hand account of the events.

      From what is reported on the cited linked article from the local news, he wasn’t going after boys. So I have no idea where Queerty got its facts.
      I’m not saying I’m defending the priest, nor am I opposed to the truth coming out if he did molest boys, but facts are facts and media spin, regardless of the “side” is wrong.

      Aug 18, 2010 at 11:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Richard
      Richard

      As several posters above have been laboring without success to point out:

      Queerty’s version of this story appears to be wrong.

      Not wrong as in ambiguous but wrong entirely. If so, it’s certainly defamatory, and the longer it stays up here without clarification, the more one could infer a malicious intent on the part of Queerty.

      Aug 19, 2010 at 9:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rjp3
      rjp3

      LOL
      Assembly of God churches are a joke anyway.

      Nice to see the guy in the interview telling people to ignore what is going on …. just keep coming to our make-believe quasi cult evangelical church where we tell you – you are better than everyone else.

      Aug 19, 2010 at 12:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B
      B

      No. 34 · james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge wrote, “@B: Watch this video & tell me that Christians aren’t wacked out of their minds too…really watch the full 4 minutes to get the full effect.”

      LOL – I pointed out that “religion” includes Wicca, Taoism and Confucianism, none of which are arguing against gay rights. I never said that some Christians are not a problem. You made an overly broad statement that was factually wrong (due to using the term “religion” instead of something more specific to indicate which particular sects are causing the problems).

      Regarding No 39, these groups do not represent 0% of the world’s population, check out http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_follow_the_religio_daoism : “The number of Taoists is difficult to estimate, due to a variety of factors including defining Taoism. The number of people practicing Chinese folk religion is estimated to be just under four hundred million. Most Chinese people and many others have been influenced in some way by Taoist tradition. Estimates for number of Taoists worldwide range from twenty to over fifty million.”

      Or take Taiwan, population about 23,000,000 with about 5 million Buddhists and 4.5 million Taoists, and only about 300,000 Catholics – http://www.moving2taiwan.net/facts-and-stats/demographics.html .

      Aug 19, 2010 at 1:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joey
      Joey

      Looks like the article was fixed. Good job queerty people.

      Aug 19, 2010 at 5:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kiaba360
      kiaba360

      It seems like everyday, there’s a new pastor that gets himself in these types of situations. Disturbing on one hand, funny as hell on the other. He couldn’t just go to a club or something, or is blackmailing the only way he could get sexual pleasure? Pathetic

      Aug 19, 2010 at 6:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Richard
      Richard

      Thanks for the fix. Well done.

      Aug 19, 2010 at 9:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Eric
      Eric

      thanks for the fix queerty

      Aug 25, 2010 at 9:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • shredneck
      shredneck

      this is the same guy who slapped me on the head and told my “demons” to get out when i used to play guitar for them. whatever, it was money!

      Sep 14, 2010 at 4:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WPHOMANS
      WPHOMANS

      I am a bisexual 61-year-old male. When I was growing up, “Queer” was the fightingest of fighting words. I have commented before, in various and sundry places, about the utter cluelessness of gay people who call themselves the very worst of homophobic slurs.

      “Hi, I’m Joshua Greenbaum, and I’m a kike. So’s my girlfriend Yetta here. Hey, we and our nigger friends Rashaan and Taisha are going to the movies, wanna come?”

      Do you think that you would ever hear a Jew talk like this? How about any blacks who would put up with it if they heard him?

      I have heard this argument about gays “appropriating the terms of our oppressors” before. Such madness does absolutely nothing to enlighten the unreconstructedly homophobic, and for those of us who are actually part of the GLBT community, all we can do is shake our heads.

      “Queer”, “Fag”, and all of the worst slurs (though I know none worse than “queer”) are what homophobes use to bully young gays into committing suicide, which, as one gay I know points out, is occurring with greater frequency these days, no matter whether polls show the population at large to be more and more gay-accepting.

      I found a link to this story about Randy Scott on a political discussion forum I frequent, http://www.hypercrites.com. The so-called gay who posted it is a Log Cabin Republican agent provocateur, one of the people that put those six gay ex-servicepeople up to that demonstration at the White House.

      It was the LCRs who betrayed the GLBT community by making sure that the DADT issue, which affects only a small subgroup of GLBT folks– i.e., those who either want to join the military, or stay in it– was brought to the floor in the crucial time before the 2010 elections, rather than same-sex unions, which would have ensured ALL GLBT people a host of civil rights– the right to bequeath and inherit to and from one’s same-sex partners; the right to insure same partners under one’s health plan; the right to not be discriminated against in housing– I could go on– that exclusively-heterosexual people take for granted.

      Civil union legislation would have passed without a great deal of controversy, and would have been an LGBT VICTORY, both in and of itself, and as a base to build other victories from. But no, the Republicans-in-faux-gay-clothing made sure that what Congress had to vote on was exactly the issue that had the LEAST chance of passing, and the most determined opponents (despite Adm. Mike Mullen’s standing up for us).

      Now not only will DADT not be brought to the floor again AT LEAST until Mr. Obama’s second term, but by having taken a messy and definitive defeat in the Senate, GLBT people will likely be unable to make headway with ANY significant legislation during this presidential administration, and maybe not during the next.

      Log Cabin Republicans are profoundly conflicted agents provocateurs, who are Republicans first, and gay people some other place and time but here and now. They should be ostracized from the GLBT community. Republicans may not control the Houses of Congress, but the LCRs have succeeded in determining the political agenda of the community, and have set us back by years. I will state the basic political principle by which the Republican Party has used its LCR catspaws to do grievous political damage to the GLBT civil-rights movement:

      IT IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO CONTROL THE SETTING OF THE POLITICAL AGENDA THAN TO CONTROL THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

      Thanks a steaming pantload! I would be sympathetic about the LCRs’ conflictedness, if they were not manifestly taking orders from the Republican Party, which would like to see gays back in the closet, or even hanging from ropes (or crosses).

      And you here at this website, y’all ain’t doing anybody any good– least of all yourselves– by throwing around “queer”, indeed, self-identifying as that slur. Wake the **** up, go take a class in public relations.

      William P. Homans
      Mississippi

      Oct 5, 2010 at 3:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • WPHOMANS
      WPHOMANS

      And just to give you my perspective on this DADT issue: I came out in Vietnam, when I was serving there in 1969-1970. One day I missed a formation because I had been making love all nIght with my very first honest-to-goodness lover, one of my fellow GIs. I told my company commander so. Naive, perhaps, but then I didn’t have the sense to tell a lie about why I had missed the formation.

      I was eventually picked up at a work detail by CID, went before an administrative board of 7 officers (2 more than for a General Court Martial), and received a general discharge under honorable conditions, for “Class III Homosexuality”, which means I didn’t rat on anybody about what we were doing, and didn’t get caught doing it, just told someone I was bisexual.

      I argued that I should be allowed to finish my 3-year enlistment (I volunteered for Nam after AIT), and even brought in a friend to testify to our having been whoring (heterosexually) in Saigon. All officers concerned had no problems with my being an honorable young man, but I was discharged as militarily unsuitable. So this issue has been personal for me since decades before DADT was ever heard of. Bill Clinton was an antiwar demonstrator in Europe on his Fulbright Scholarship while I was serving.

      But all that said, it would be much, much more important if gays were able to live together with all the tangible benefits that heterosexual-exclusive people have without asking for them than for me to have been able to remain a pawn in the military’s war games.

      You gays want to go to far away lands, meet innocent, interesting people, and kill them or help to do so? HOW FREAKING GAY IS WAR, dudes and dudettes!? I suggest that the best thing for gays to do is to pointedly decline to take part. Make love not war, we used to say 40 years ago, once I had the sense (post-discharge) to say so!

      I’m armed, and if this country were truly attacked– as though any power or consortium of powers, pirates and religious extremists thrown in, could so much as establish a beachhead anywhere within the shores of the USA– I would fight to the death if need be.

      But you people who want to carry out Bushite foreign policy, or its extension, attenuated though it might be, under Obama, are not “gay” at all. You’re a bunch of Republicans, just like those six ex-servicepeople with good military records except for (supposedly) being gay or transgendered. REPUBLICANS! I can only think of one worse expletive relevant to this discussion, and to this site: QUEER.

      William P. Homans
      Mississippi

      Oct 5, 2010 at 6:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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