“The Thomas More Society of Chicago has filed an amicus curiae brief on behalf of the New York State Catholic Conference concerning whether N.Y. should recognize out-of-state same-sex ‘marriages’ that have been contracted in states which recognize the practice. The Thomas More Society’s brief argues that recognition of such unions would undermine a natural and social institution and is not required by New York precedents governing the recognition of out-of-state marriages. ‘A lower court said that New York state can recognize an out-of-state same-sex marriage, which does not make sense. A marriage that violates the public policy of New York state should not be recognized, regardless of where it was entered into, period,’ Tom Brejcha, president and chief counsel for the Thomas More Society in Chicago, said in a statement.” [Catholic News Agency; responsible for quotes around word “marriage”]
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schlukitz
Could someone please explain to me how this sort of political activity is NOT crossing the line of separation of church and state? And are they not violating their preferential tax-exampt status by doing so?
When do secular laws, become the area of “expertise” for the Catholic Church, Mormans, et al, to involve themselves in?
Can anyone show me, just one instance, where the secular community attempts to involve itself in the private affairs of the church, pass laws against it’s belief systems or it’s very existence?
Joanaroo
Agreed Schlukitz! I am so tired of churches being Republican bully pulpits! When anyone in a church says anything political – BAM! They should lose their tax-exempt status!
schlukitz
@Joanaroo:
Amen!
JONES-MUNOZ
I was not raised as a Roman Catholic. I was raised an Episcopalian, my religious beliefs are different, My religious faith is inclusive, and my Church has decided to include same-sex marriage rites. So when it comes to the debate of same-sex marriage I am offended when I hear of the Roman Carholic Bishops in New Jersey, or The Roman Carholic Church funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars into Main and now The Thomas More Society of Chicago filing this suit to defeat the civil rights of same-sex couples to exersize those rights. To use their argument, as proposed by the Irish Cardinal of Limmerick Ireland, they are committing, “an alarming attack on the fundamental principle of freedom of religion and conscience.” They are trying to dictate their religious values upon me, They are attempting to dictate my religious faith, and they are attempting to inhibit my civil rights under the law. To be clear about this, we do not live under a religious theocracy but a nation were equality prevails under the constitution, whether Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Budhist or Jew. I strongly oppose their tactics to push their religious values upon me because mine is of love and inclusion.
Qjersey
…sadly no one challenges the idiot’s mis-statements. Same sex marriage is not against the public policy of the state…NY state has no law prohibiting or granting same sex marriage.
Brian
@JONES-MUNOZ: Episcopalians may recognize same sex marriages, but they still make homosexuality wrong, sinful and deviant. While they are certainly more liberal than most Christians, they have never rejected the biblical lies about homosexuals. In the official eyes of Episcopalians we are still wrong. As long as we’re “wrong,” we’ll never be equal.
How about getting the Episcopalians to sign this Declaration:
Homosexuals are Not Wrong, Sinful or Deviant.
THAT would be progress.
Brian Miller
The Catholic Church has not hesitated to use anti-gay slurs in its legal briefings — our response should use anti-Catholic ones.
We should urge the court to ignore the ramblings of the RCC because “that group is an pedophile’s rights group and has no legitimate views on the structure of the family.”
Further, the money they’re using to pursue anti-gay politics and litigation should be immediately seized by bankruptcy courts and civil courts and used to pay their outstanding billions of dollars in child-rape liability that they filed bankruptcy to avoid paying.
Hardball is called for.
Bob Lablah
Blah blah blah hits the nail on the head.