“Ender’s Game” Author Tries To Defend Himself, Saying Gay Marriage Issue Is “Moot”

r-ORSON-SCOTT-CARDEnder’s Game is set more than a century in the future and has nothing to do with political issues that did not exist when the book was written in 1984.

With the recent Supreme Court ruling, the gay marriage issue becomes moot.  The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution will, sooner or later, give legal force in every state to any marriage contract recognized by any other state.

Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.”


–Orson Scott Card, author of the sci-fi novel End Game in response to a threatened boycott of the film adaptation due to his stated opposition to marriage equality, in a statement released to Entertainment Weekly

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  • 2eo

    Fuck off Card, the only chance you have to make things right is for you to leave an apology in your suicide note.

  • zaneymcbanes

    He almost had me, and then he had to drop in that crazy bullshit about proponents being “tolerant.” Though Card is on the board of NOM, does this mean NOM is going to stop fighting gay marriage initiatives?

  • Michael David Barber

    Let me remind everyone here what Mr. Card has said in the past and I quote, “”What these dictator-judges do not seem to understand is that their authority extends only as far as people choose to obey them.

    How long before married people answer the dictators thus: Regardless of law, marriage has only one definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I will act to destroy that government and bring it down, so it can be replaced with a government that will respect and support marriage, and help me raise my children in a society where they will expect to marry in their turn.”

    HE HAS CALLED FOR THE VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF ANY GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD GIVE LGBT persons full equality. That is a militant, hateful, religious fascist mindset that I WILL NEVER FORGIVE NOR FORGET.

  • MikeE

    Aren’t O.S.C’s comments text-book “call to treason”?
    Why isn’t he arrested and questioned by the FBI?

  • Ogre Magi

    “He is not even that good a writer. Just look at the names he came up with for the aliens in that series Piggies&Buggers. An 8y/o could come up with better names than that!”

  • hyhybt

    @Michael David Barber: I’m more curious about the change. He said that if what has happened ever happened, he’d work to overthrow the government. He’s apparently not only not shown any interest in doing so now that the court has ruled, but isn’t even advocating for a reversal or for fighting politically in the remaining states. Did he never mean what he said at all? Did he think it would never happen? Has he genuinely changed his mind? Is it all about sales? Has he been pressured from elsewhere? Is he just basically sulking for the time being?

  • Jackhoffsky

    @Michael David Barber: “Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.”

    In connection with your quotes, I… with all my heart… DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS STATEMENT. I don’t even know how to relate it to history. We move on past this incredibly hateful ass because we have things to do… NOT because we forgive and certainly not because we forget.

    Just… it baffles me.

  • Cam


    Thanks for posting this after I posted the link to it twice in 2 days.


    Why did you leave out the fact that he is a very high profile Mormon and that he had a high position with NOM…you know, as a BOARD MEMBER.

    Again, he is a BOARD MEMBER of NOM. The group that has funded more anti-gay legislation in the nation than any other organization but you seemed determined to avoid mentioning that.


  • hyhybt

    @Jackhoffsky: And anyway, the issue *still is* in dispute; the end is almost in sight, but we’re not there yet.

    @Cam: Well, since you’re so insistent that they report what you want them to and that not mentioning a particular fact MUST be deliberate avoidance: which is it? You say in one paragraph “HAD a high position … as a board member” and in the next “he IS a board member.” Pick one.

  • 1EqualityUSA

    Serious gay face(see photo above). I will forgive, but never forget. John Latent Weeping Boehner, Princeton’s Robert P.George and Father of the NOMskulls, Nancy “Wiggling” Elliott of New Hampshire, AFA’s Brian Latent Fischer dusting off his “D” word, in public, no less, Gary Latent Bauer, Fred “God Hates Fags” Phelps, Sarah Palin, John McCain, George W. Bush, Antonin Scalia, Samuel Alito, John Niece oppressor Roberts, Mike “My-son-tortures-dogs-to-death Huckabee, Clarence-I-have-a white-wife-but-still-deny-gays Thomas, Pat Dustball Robertson, Tony Latent Perkins, Pastor Electric Fence Worley of North Carolina, Romney (ew), Pastor Curtis Knapp of New Hope Baptist Church in Seneca, Kansas who, in his most latent fashion, says the government should slaughter the gays, Liberty Counsel’s Matt “Wages of Sin” Barber, Evangelical Christian megachurch pastor Rick Saddlebacker Warren, Dan Chic-fil-a-monster Cathy, New Jersey’s Chris Christy and the Mark Zuckerberg’s who fund them, and the rest, here on Gallagher’s Isle, are all remembered for their hurtful, hateful helping of hospitality. That’s the thing about the internet, their words a merely a button away.

  • balehead

    Be quiet!!…this will make every homophobe go see his movie just to spite gays….

  • D9W

    @Cam – RE: high profile Mormon and that he had a high position with NOM…you know, as a BOARD MEMBER.

    Thanks for saying something. Now I will not BUY the DVD.

  • 2eo

    @D9W: Download Ender’s Game when it is released, there will be a day 1 4k rip as well as HD and DVD quality rips.

  • Saralikesyarr

    Card is just Gay himself.

    He wrote a book about little naked boys rolling around in the shower with soapy water, including intimate scenes where one of the boys kissed his main character. Meanwhile the main character didn’t bat an eye at the only naked female in the bunks.

    This is his closeted gay fantasy here. He’s just completely insecure with himself. In other writing, he wrote about a character who was gay but chose to live with his wife etc for the “good of society” or something like that, but sex was always still a chore.

    I suppose Card would know from experience about that.

    Card is just in the closet. Being the great great grandson or whatever of Brigham Young can’t be easy, but he definitely has some strange ideas about his own sexuality.

    I wonder if we’ll see him coming out in later years, or getting caught soliciting sex from a rentboy.

  • 2eo

    @Saralikesyarr: You mean rampant paedophilia runs in his family? that would explain most religious paedophilia, given how many of them are at it and are related to older people who are also at it.

  • Deepdow

    Though none of us are intolerant of heterosexual people nor do we advocate for laws and culture to reflect that. Clever Card, but the book was mediocre anyway. There is no way I’m ever seeing this movie.

  • D9W

    @Saralikesyarr — “Being the great great grandson or whatever of Brigham Young can’t be easy”- got the right. I lived next to one of the G*3 Grandsons and what a mess- they wanted nothing to do with B.Y.

  • Mr. E. Jones

    That statement was for Entertainment Weekly. Let’s see what he writes on anti-gay websites.

  • Alberto

    This is the classic apologize-non apologize. He’s not truly sorry for what he said in the past, and im totally sure that he still believes in the same anti gay ideology in the core of his heart
    It’s a shame, because otherwise, his books and works would be respected, and now there’s even a campaing againts his upcoming movie. (link here:

    But once you lost the audience, you lose success. And he ask for it.
    I’ll not go to see that movie.

  • Dakotahgeo

    @Michael David Barber: …. never forgive, forget, OR TOLERATE! 100% with you on that! Kudos!

  • Cam


    You have now tried to defend Card in one post, and you attack me for questioning why Queerty would not mention the fact that he is a member of the board of NOM since 2009.

    Please just admit you are anti-gay and are here to defend the guy because trying to defelct from the facts of the story and change the subject by nit-picking is incredibly obvious.

    It didn’t work when you all tried to do it on here doing Prop 8 in Ca. and it is just as glaringly obvious today.

    Again, Card is aboard member of NOM, the group that has tried to pass anti-gay laws across the nation. IF you support him in that, you are a bigot and hate gays. Simple as that.

  • hyhybt

    @Cam: hard to know even where to begin. Nowhere have I come anywhere near defending this guy; as anyone can easily see, my first comment in this thread was an expression of puzzlement. Nor have I attacked you, nor is the difference between “was” and “is” a mere nitpick, nor have I ever expressed support for Prop 8 or anything like it. Just the opposite, very consistently. If you’ve found something I said which you believe is supporting an anti-gay position, especially that one specifically since you brought it up, please link to it.

  • D9W

    @Saralikesyarr – RE: No.14- is that in his book “end game” or is that in the movie? I don’t know what’s up with him or Mrs. Meyer but it seems they both have a warp view point of the world.

  • 2eo

    @Cam: Spot on, I’m surprised he posts at all after he was called on on defending paedophiles. Is he one himself?

  • hyhybt

    @2eo: Lies. I never did any such thing. At least now I know yo ARE lying, rather than just misunderstanding my posts. Now if only I knew why you’d do such a thing.

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