Fresh from a successful copyright battle in court, New York City plaything Michael Lucas descends another valley in the highs and lows of the bi-polar industry: America’s leading gay media police hate him. Sads!
The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, whose head Jarrett Barrios loves when you call it out, tried making Lucas persona non grata around these parts when they had photos of him from their GLAAD Awards ceremony yanked from WireImage; they were replaced after Lucas complained. Then there was his anchor friend at the Logo network, whose bosses supposedly told him not to associate with Lucas in public.
To Lucas, it’s an example of “LGBT-on-LGBT discrimination” because “[s]upergays and superlesbians don’t like our diversity. They want to streamline us as gymgoing, straight-acting professionals, sanitized for your protection. Anderson Cooper will be their perfect role model, assuming he ever comes out of the closet.”
Zing!
But is this an example of gay institutions discriminating against of their own — a gay person — because he’s a player in that filthy porn world? Or because he’s a radical Islamaphobe? Either way, we already know GLAAD is afraid of anything resembling controversy, which is exactly what Lucas represents, and traffics in.
Does that make it fair for a television network to tell an employee he cannot be friends with Lucas? Certainly not. But if GLAAD wanted photos of Lucas on the red carpet, the organization would’ve invited him; he attended as a guest of an honoree.
pataliro
I don’t agree with Lucas’ claim. GLAAD hates you because you are in porn? They instead support AC? I don’t think so buddy.
ML has simply an annoying personality. Whoever met him finds out he’s extremely grating.
By the way, what made him a big porn star from the beginning? That’s the part I don’t understand. He is just so so looking. His body was always not very well cared. Yes, he has a big cock, but has anyone ever seen it really hard? It’s always half limp!
That Bitch Téa Delgado
Michael Lucas is a massive idiot. Sure, we want diversity represented, but even I draw the line at narcissistic Islamophobes.
delurker again
who doesn’t hate ML???
Mike Stern
Queerty just confirms Lucas’ point: The LGBT world is rich because its full of diversity. Yet GLAAD, like many other of our organizations, is afraid of that and airbrushes us clean. Today it airbrushes Michael Lucas and tomorrow…who? You? That’s just the opposite of what we fought for all these years.
Qjersey
Michael Lucas has become the gay equivalent of Larry Flynt. Always there for a soundbite or some publicity.
That said, if GLAAD is upset because ML is a pornographer, their view is justified.
ML operates like every other pornographer, gay or straight. Men are lured into performing in for a flat fee while the producer rakes in all the profits. In other words, exploitation.
Why do you think so many guys are now doing their own internet porn? To keep the money for themselves!
Teddypig
I keep hearing Islamaphobe more and more these days. When did we have to start treating religion in general, that mostly hates the gay, with any respect.
Did I miss something are gay people actually justifying religious hate mongers now?
matin
this is a very well written and important article.
Glasser
ML is a rabble rouser, best kept undet wraps as far as establishing any credibility for the GLBT community I’m general. On a pos note, his .movies are smokin hot. I would send anyone with a notion that gay guys are limp wristed nellies to his movies for a dose of reality.
Glasser
PS In ML’s defense, I would hold back any porn boy ops from public light with GLAAD or any other GLBT promoting organization until DADT is dropped and gay marriage is secure nationwide. Not that I don’t like porn cuz I do, it’s more about a good marketing strategy. Lots of people are put off by porn, why make it harder for ourselves? I think ML has a good rational mind and might just agree. This is not a negative judgment, it’s simply an overall look at very touchy subjects and how best to navigate them in an orderly fashion for fast effective results. If someone like ML wants to come in with a porn tag written all over, I’m all for it, but as it goes “timing is everything”.
Paschal
@Mike Stern: So if there’s a racist who happens to be gay we should celebrate that person as part of our diversity. We should celebrate diversity but we shouldn’t celebrate assholes.
Paschal
@Teddypig: We shouldn’t judge people based on their religion. I’m an atheist by the way. Anyone who is a bigot shouldn’t be respected but we should judge people based on who they are, not their religious beliefs. You shouldn’t make generalisations about a group of people.
JR
How dare he compare porn stars to drag queens! Seriously, how dare he make that comparison? The drag queens are not afraid to be themselves. The porn stars, on the other hand, are often not even gay and are marketed as plastic, air-brushed hyper-steroided uberclones who pervert our sense of what is attractive.
D.B.
This is laughable — I don’t think any gay organization’s “diversity” is defined by whether or not they embrace a certain media whore pornographer.
nick
@JR-
Lichael Lucas is definitely not afraid of himself and yes he is gay and no he is not comparing himself to drag queens.
He just wrote article to defend them and others.
Tylertime
as for the alleged comment about Logo it is my understanding that many TV networks have moral clauses in their talent contracts. if associating with a pornographer is going to hurt a network’s brand than as an employee under contract you need to abide by that contract. imagine if brian williams from NBC was constantly seen with Ron Jeremy or Jenna Jameson you don’t think the powers that be would be concerned about Williams’ credibility with their NBC audience?
thomas
@ TOLERTIME_-
NO NOW ONE AT NBC WILL BE CONCERNED, JUST LIKE NO ONE AT CNN IS CONCERNED ABOUT ANDERSON COOPER BEING FRIEND WITH PORN STARS LIKE RAFAEL ALENCA.
HayYall
I just giggle every time I see his picture. Is that the “Le Tigre” pose or the “Blue Steel”?
Far too Jewy-jewy douchebag to be even remotely attractive, let alone a “voice for the community.”
Teddypig
We shouldn’t judge people based on their religion.
Well, you have obviously mistaken me for a nice person. That’s judging me and stereotyping me. See I hate all organized religion equally. I find “tolerating the intolerant” to be a silly waste of time. Organized religious dogma kills gay people dead so no I do not find any organized religion gentle or harmless to gay people in general.
You do your thing but name calling a gay man for hating any organized religion is dumb.
J. Clarence
Is it that time of the month already for Lucas to complain about something?
Look, I think there is some validity to his point, which is that gay rights organizations try their best to appear as ‘normal’ as possible, and that implies distancing themselves from a pornographer (who has such great porn titles like Farts! and Piss under his belt). However, to some extent that is to be expected. They are playing politics, and the way you win in politics is by showing your best, i.e. least controversial side, as much as possible.
However, Lucas’ point is undermined by the fact that it is Michael Lucas who is saying. A man who even if you were the filthiest person on earth would try to stand away from to avoid the (additional) scorning eyes.
Paschal
@Teddypig: Not all religious people are bigoted. The lgbt community wouldn’t be able to achieve what it has achieved if it were not for the help of religious people. Religious people conrinue to help the lgbt community in its fight for equality.
nikko
really, PASCHAL, like what gay-friendly religion are you talking about? Do tell. Certainly not Islam.
gomez
@delurker again: i don’t hate lucas. he gets props in my book for strapping on balls and speaking his unadulterated mind, even when i disagree with him
[email protected]HayYall: did you really just say “jewy-jewy”? seriously, dick.
Teddypig
Let’s see Paschal, I don’t seem to recall any religious people at Stonewall.
In fact Paschal I can’t remember a single organized religion that stood up against the Mormon Church on our behalf as they worked tirelessly to pass Prop 8. In fact they joined them in the hate.
So it’s seems to me you have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for playing.
Paschal
So no religious people support gay rights and no clergy have performed same-sex marriages? How would you @Teddypig:
So no religious people support gay rights and no clergy have performed same-sex marriages? How would you the religious beliefs of all of those people who were at Stonewall? Ireland is 86% Roman Catholic yet support for marriage equality is at 62%, according to a survey commissioned by MarriagEquality in February 2009. Support for civil partnerships which would grant most of the rights of marriageis at 84%, according to a survey carried out in 2008 by the same group. Surveys suggest that support for marriage equality has increased at a bery good pace.
Joe Clark
If I understand the hackneyed mishmash of the last graf, your photo should never be taken at a function unless you had previously received a written invitation.
Which part did I get wrong?
ousslander
MAybe they hate hime because he gets more attention and is willing to speak out against islam’s homophobia just like people who speak out against the catholic church or mormons, However those people get celebrated but to do so about islam you’re a bigot or racist.
And when did muslim become a race?
Bitchy Bitch
“Which part did I get wrong?”
The entire damn thing sweetheart. The entire damn thing.
thomas
Michael never talked about the race.Islam is a religion- a horrible one.
roger
All this hate to Michael comes from jealousy.Lucas is writing for Advocate under his real name and get payed, wile haters content themselves with posting unanimous nasty scribblings in the comment section.
terrwill
Lucas is one of the very few who calls out Islamic fundamentisalam for what it truly is a despicable, vile, rephehensive,group of savage scumbags who simply wish to murder anyone who is does not embrace it’s lunacy with all its wicked teaching and sick twisted dogma……..Sorry he tells it just like it is……………
Michael C.
Michael Lucas is considered “bad” because all the cool kids on the fringe left (the ones that like telling people what to do and think just as much as the fringe right) think it’s just fabulous to beat up on Israel, the only Democracy with religious freedom and gay rights in the middle east in order to defend the monstrous evil that is Islam. Why? Only their addled brains steeped in the joys of cultural relativism can be sure. Why a horribly backward religion that commits so many evils against women, gay people, non-muslims, and Muslims that dare to not goose step in their back-to-middle-ages party line is worthy of any respect or defense is beyond me. It’s not being phobic to recognize a danger when you see it.
Paschal
@thomas: I’m not very fond of many religion. I’m an atheist and a secular humanist f.y.i. But I don’t judge a group of people based on their religion. If people really believed everything their religions preach then not a single Roman Catholic would ever usea condom yet my home of Ireland (which is 86% Roman Catholic) sells condoms and is in the process of legalising civil partnerships for gay couples. Jews shave been persecuted disgustingly. Judaism is easily one of the most homophobic religions in the world. The homphobic nonsense in the Bible comes from the Jewish Scriputures, not the New Testament. St. Paul was quoting the Old Testament when he wrote some homophobic nonsense. And of course the people who wrote the religious texts had no idea about homosexuality. Jews, however, are not known for being homophobic. They’re actually very tolerant as a group. That, of course, doesn’t mean that there aren’t complete assholes among them but there are assholes in probably every group.
Peter
Lucas is an old , over the hill, heavily made-up example of intolerance. Send him back to Russia to be Putin’s mini-Me, and let’s move on. Lucas is in new class of narcissism and assholeism.
Cam
No. 20 · Paschal
@Teddypig: Not all religious people are bigoted. The lgbt community wouldn’t be able to achieve what it has achieved if it were not for the help of religious people. Religious people conrinue to help the lgbt community in its fight for equality.
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PLease provide examples. I’m sorry, but the Porp 8 campaign was funded by the LDS Church with consideralbe help from the Catholics, the campaign against marriage in Maine was pushed to sucess by the Cahtolic bishops there, there are currently church groups that tried to take DC marriage law all the way up to the Supreme Court to prevent it. Gays are publicly killed in many countries of the middle east for being against the teachings of the Koran. So please show me where any religeous group has done so much that (In your words) “”The LGBT community wouldn’t have been able to achieve what it’s achieved”” without it. Some church just saying that “Gays are ok” is fine, but our achievments sure aren’t founded on it, and frankly their opposition is 10,000 times worse on us then any support we’ve recieved.
Teddypig
@ Paschal So no religious people support gay rights and no clergy have performed same-sex marriages? How would you the religious beliefs of all of those people who were at Stonewall?
@ CAM Not all religious people are bigoted. The lgbt community wouldn’t be able to achieve what it has achieved if it were not for the help of religious people.
I bet I can come up with far more actual names and instances far of churches and religious dogma calling for the persecution of gay people than you could come up for whatever example you think you have.
See that’s the issue here… idiots such as yourself negate the deaths of people like Matthew Shepard with all the religious points of views that came out in interviews with the murderers and on top of that you would rather call other far more intelligent gay people “phobic”.
When the facts are as blatant as the Westboro Baptist Church which frankly is not an anomaly but simply a louder version of the same old religious dogma shared by most every organized religion in existence.
Look at the paper this morning and see Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League swearing it’s Gay Priests who are at fault for all the pedophilia problems being reported about.
If you want to hide your heads under a rock or face reality and instead tell us all about your latest “pie in the sky” plan to change those hateful religious people into our friends go ahead but you do not impress me with your name calling of Gay People who know you are full of it and your lack of insight into the real issues here which is simply a problem with organized religious dogma spreading hate against gay people.
Teddypig
@CAM Oops sorry, I did not mean to include you in that. Cut and paste and not checking what happened.
Cam
No. 36 · Teddypig
@CAM Oops sorry, I did not mean to include you in that. Cut and paste and not checking what happened.
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Um, thank you, I was wondering! I was like “Hey, we’re arguing the same point here!” lol
Paschal
@Teddypig: Do you really have to resort to name-calling? Let it be known that you started it. Are you ignorant or what? Let’s call atheism our enemy too seeing how Josef Stalin was such a great guy to gays. It was religious groups in the U.K. which asked the House of Lords to lift the ban on legally recognised civil partnerships being performed by religious groups. The Evangelical (note that that’s Evangelical) Alliance in Ireland came out in support of civil partnerships recently. Not everyone who is part of a religious community hold intolerant views. That’s all that I’m saying. I KNOW that religions have done and do disgusting and terrible things and spread intolerance. I FUCKING KNOW. BUT I don’t paint every religious person with the same brush. I form opinions of people as individuals.
”See that’s the issue here… idiots such as yourself negate the deaths of people like Matthew Shepard with all the religious points of views that came out in interviews with the murderers and on top of that you would rather call other far more intelligent gay people “phobic”.”
How exactly have I negated the tragic death of a young man? I in no way defend the ”logic” used by bigots. Bigots are bigots, I KNOW that. I’m simply stating that bigots do not represent the views of all. I wouldn’t exactly call you intelligent, by the way. Your response to things I didn’t say shows that you’re ignorant and that you see people just as groups, not as individuals.
Cam
No. 38 · Paschal
It was religious groups in the U.K. which asked the House of Lords to lift the ban on legally recognised civil partnerships being performed by religious groups. The Evangelical (note that that’s Evangelical) Alliance in Ireland came out in support of civil partnerships recently.
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SAying “We don’t hate you, it’s ok that you exist” isn’t the same as your saying that their support is much more important to us then their opposition. We would have Marriage rights in at least 3 more states right now if religeous groups had not raised money and funded the campaigns to push through repeals of marriage laws that had passed. Additionally, Rhode Island and Jersey were going to be looking into laws but stopped when religeous organizations had an outcry. So again, big deal some group in Ireland came out in support of civil partnerships. On Balance you have to admit that organized relegeon has worked far more against us then for us.
Teddypig
I KNOW that religions have done and do disgusting and terrible things and spread intolerance.
So do me a favor and quit pointing to the single Nazi holding the flowers and calling for world peace and accept the fact life is unfair religion is a messed up mental disorder and even that Nazi will always be remembered for killing Jews.
Just like Catholics are now known as child molesters.
OK?
Quit trying to merchandise organized religion to gay people as the less hateful alternative to republicans. And then calling other gay people task for hating all of it all religion in a nice big burnable pile.
They have good reason to want it gone and simply not a part of any discussion or our politics or our government.
Paschal
@Cam: It has but all I’ve stated is that you can not judge entire groips of people based on religion. That’s all I’ve said.
Paschal
@Teddypig: You’re impossible to argue with. But you paint entire groups of people with the same brush. That’s unfair. There are over 1.1 billion Roman Catholics. How many of them have actually commited abuse? I know, before you ask, that the Chutch also covered up the abuse. But that’s the fault of the Church, not of everyday Roman Catholics.
Teddypig
But that’s the fault of the Church, not of everyday Roman Catholics.
WHAT THE…. You are a real honest idiot.