Comedian and rapper Lil Duval has gone viral after a tweet explaining why he doesn’t want to see gay men getting intimate with one another on TV.
“I can watch gay people all day but i don’t wanna see them fuck. And that’s not homophonic cuz i feel the same way about my momma. I can watch my momma but i don’t wanna see her FUCK!!!! Do y’all get it?”
I can watch gay people all day but i don’t wanna see them fuck. And that’s not homophonic cuz i feel the same way about my momma. I can watch my momma but i don’t wanna see her FUCK!!!! Do y’all get it?
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 29, 2022
An earlier tweet revealed he’d been watching the show P-Valley.
“Yea p valley lost me. They need a super gay advisory on movies like they got for everything else. Cuz That’s a lot to see if u not use to it,” he said. The particular episode featured two sex scenes between people of the same sex: one between two women and one between two men.
How about we take this to the next level?
Our newsletter is like a refreshing cocktail (or mocktail) of LGBTQ+ entertainment and pop culture, served up with a side of eye-candy.
What y’all think about This scene of Lil Murda & Big Teak 👀 pic.twitter.com/k0d80w7g9a
— P-Valley Updates (@Pvalleyupdates) June 26, 2022
Related: ‘The Boys’ promised a truly over-the-top group sex scene, and boy, did it deliver
Many of Lil Duval’s followers were quick to echo his views, but many others clapped back against it. Others were just thrown by the comparison between gay men having sex and his mother having sex.
I’m gay and have never felt this level of aversion to seeing cis-het people have sex on film.
Seriously, why is it so much for y’all to deal with?
The need to say this discomfort out loud is giving hit dog hollering right now.
— Ernest Owens (@MrErnestOwens) June 29, 2022
Us queers don’t wanna see cishets screw on TV & movies either but you don’t see us crying about it despite it being the default on everything from soap operas on at 11am to any & every action movie.
— Patrick Bruck 🍞🌹#NotMeUs (@scott_satzer) June 30, 2022
a fake gay sex scene being on yo mind 48 hours later kinda crazy. before noon
— the loud mouth (@helveticahooch) June 29, 2022
Do you not wanna see straight sex scenes either? Cause if not, and you’re disgusted by the thought of gay sex… then theres a word for that.
— FireLightHeartsBurnBright 🍑 (@firelightheartx) June 29, 2022
a mom is more personal to you while a random gay couple is vv real and has nothing to do w u lol I don’t understand why people don’t understand THAT concept u don’t like it don’t watch it. Or remove all sex scenes cause either way straight or gay it is displaying private intimacy
— næ (@jeannejh_) June 29, 2022
They clutching they pearls because it’s hitting too close to home. The gays are starting to look like their homeboys and baby daddies 😂. They’re appalled 🤯😂
— 👑 (@BlaQuioxte) June 29, 2022
As the tweet went viral, Lil Duval felt moved to clarify that he (surprise, surprise) had no problem with the lesbian sex scene, because he was “use to it.” He said it was human nature to be shocked by something one is not used to.
And no the lesbian ain’t bother me cuz I’m use to it. That what y’all missing. It’s about what you’re USE TO! you’re always gon be shocked at something you’re not use to. That’s human nature. U can’t just throw something on somebody and be offended cuz they shocked
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 29, 2022
Any gay person that don’t get that logic don’t wanna get it and got a bigger agenda than trying to bring us to together thru understanding each other
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 29, 2022
Related: Let’s revisit that tool shed gay sex scene in ‘Wet Hot American Summer’
Lil Duval, 45, who heralds from Duval, Florida (hence his name), has been releasing music since 2014. He’s also a stand-up comedian and actor, with almost 1million followers on Twitter and 3.7million on Instagram.
P-Valley is set in and around a strip club in the fictional Mississippi town of Chucalissa. It premiered on Starz in 2020 and is now in its second season. In 2021, it was nominated by LGBTQ advocacy group GLAAD for ‘Outstanding Drama’ in its annual media awards. It’s won an NAACP Award and has been nominated for several other honors.
The scene in question took place between the characters rising rapper Lil Murda (J. Alphonse Nicholson) and Big Teak (John Clarence Stewart), a friend who’s just been released from prison.
P-Valley co-executive producer and writer Patrik-Ian Polk was also involved in bringing the much-missed Noah’s Arc to the screen.
Polk reshared Duval’s tweet, advising him not to watch if he didn’t like it.
“As a writer and producer of P Valley, specifically a writer of this episode, I encourage you to step away from Chucalissa. This show is not for you. Go watch something else. Cuz the gay ain’t goin’ nowhere,” said Polk.
As a writer and producer of P Valley, specifically a writer of this episode, I encourage you to step away from Chucalissa. This show is not for you. Go watch something else. Cuz the gay ain’t goin’ nowhere. #pvalley https://t.co/1Wwx1kHEdA
— Patrik-Ian Polk (@PatrikIanPolk) June 29, 2022
I’m kidding, of course. In all seriousness, if you find the show too uncomfortable to watch, you’re welcome to change the channel and watch something else. But why feel the need to come online and spew your homophobic nonsense? We don’t care! #PValley https://t.co/MwU7vGhpT0
— Patrik-Ian Polk (@PatrikIanPolk) June 29, 2022
Polk later tweeted, “The reality is: a lot of these ‘straight’ men are triggered by these gay love scenes. Watching them brings up questions they have about their own sexuality. That ain’t got nothing to do with us or #PValley. Do the work; look inward!”
The reality is: a lot of these “straight”men are triggered by these gay love scenes. Watching them brings up questions they have about their own sexuality. That ain’t got nothing to do with us or #PValley. Do the work; look inward!
— Patrik-Ian Polk (@PatrikIanPolk) June 29, 2022
LegionKeign
P Valley is the bomb. Very, very good show. Well written and very well acted.
Kangol2
It is! That episode–just WOW. And it featured two same sex scenes, not just that groundbreaking second one!
Donston
He was trying real hard to be “edgy” and “funny”. But then compared same-sex intimacy with watching his momma have sex, which is just weird. But this is nothing new. Many folks will constantly talk about how fine they are with queers but will get aggressively annoyed with male-male passions, intimacy, relationships, love. It’s not anything new. Also, P-Valley is a rather overtly queer and fairly sexual show. Anyone can tell that quickly. He’s gotta be faking naïveté, acting like he didn’t know what he was getting into. In general, it’s really something he coulda kept to himself, but he wanted Twitter attention.
splunky
Seems like this fool enjoyed the gay scenes a little more than he wants to admit and it’s clearly bothering him. And yeah, I get that hetero males are not 100% into watching 2 men get it on. I sure as hell am not a big fan of hetero sex scenes myself. Yet I do not feel horrified about it as if my own sexuality is being attacked or feel the need to proclaim out loud how much I don’t want to see it. I either suck it up and deal with it, or I don’t watch.
Bosch
Someone tell this guy about eyelids.
jcool
and remote control devices
Donston
He was desperate to let the world know how uncomfortable he is with male passions/affections.
Kangol2
HE was one of several who had to broadcast their outrage at this episode of P-Valley, though I bet he rewound it just to “make sure,” etc.
bachy
His momma may not be doing sex scenes on TV, but there are plenty of shows and films now depicting elderly actors engaged in sexual relationships.
Mr. Stadnick
Well I guess he got the press he was hoping to get.
cheks
It’s natural to get at least slightly aroused when watching other people have sex. I wish more straight guys would realize that if you’re actually feeling like you’re going to throw up after watching two men being intimate, that’s because you’re having a panic attack or anxiety attack due to how uncomfortable you are with your own feelings. It’s the same as if you have to speak in front of a big crowd. You feel exposed and vulnerable. You need to figure out why two men, who have nothing to do with you, cause you to have such a crisis and feel so vulnerable.
Hint, it’s because you’re terrified you might like it. And if you do a little, it’s ok. Doesn’t mean you’re gay. It’s natural to be turned on by watching other humans get it on. Hence why porn exists.
But homophobia doesn’t mean you’re scared of gay people, homophobia is being scared of homosexual feelings in yourself. Otherwise, it wouldn’t bother you so damn much.
barryaksarben
IN his twitter he has so many followers who are saying we are pushing it on them but they and he can switch channels
SDR94103
he dumb.
MISTERJETT
i wonder if he needs batteries for his remote.
Kangol2
One thing the article above doesn’t really discuss is that this isn’t the first male-male sex scene on P-Valley. In an earlier episode one of the two characters, the cis, somewhat hypermasculine (sometimes) rapper Lil Murder had sex with one of the show’s stars, the femme gay man/non-binary character Uncle Clifford. That seemed to spur little outrage from some of these now outraged male (and female) viewers. Lil Murder also fantasizes about Uncle Clifford and is clearly in love with them, but again, this didn’t seem to upset viewers, because it somewhat conforms to stereotypes and pre-existing beliefs about gay and queer men.
SPOILER ALERT:
In this episode, however, Lil Murder topped Lil Teak, another cis, hypermasculine man, built like a bear, in a scene that also included real tenderness between them. It began with Lil Murder calming down Lil Teak and showing him comfort and very gentle affection, which is still seldom depicted, and then it popped off from there. I think the scene disrupted some viewers’ beliefs about same-sex experiences, may have aroused them (it was really hot!), and also left them wondering about their understandings of same-sex experience. I’ll finish by saying that J. Alphonse Nicholson, the actor who plays Lil Murder deserves an award for how he is portraying his character.
wiggie
the show takes place in a strip club. Plenty of hetero and lesbian action has been depicted. Lil Murder has had sex with the main character last season and there was no problem. The issue is because Murder and Teak are both hypermasculine males having sex together and it messes up their preconceived notions.
mailliw110
See, that’s the problem when you start watching in the middle of the series.